“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” - George W. Bush

All The Best

THE ELEPHANT BAR IS CLOSED

I want to thank everyone who participated in the Elephant Bar over the past twelve years. We had millions of visitors from all around the World and you were part of it. Over the past dozen years, two or three times a night, I would open my laptop and some of you were always there. I will miss that.

My plans are to continue my work with technology and architecture. You know my interests and thoughts.

At times, things would get a little rough in the EB. To those of you that I may have offended over the years, I apologize. From all of you, I learned and grew.

An elephant never forgets.
Be well.

Deuce, 21 June 2018

Thursday, January 11, 2018

In 2004, former gov. Dick Lamm gave a now-famous speech. “I have a plan to destroy America,”



Richard Lamm on Multiculturalism

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A Frightening Analysis
We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American’s finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, “Mexifornia,” explaining how immigration — both legal and illegal — was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.
Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, “If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that ‘An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'”
“Here is how they do it,” Lamm said: First to destroy America, “Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: ‘The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.”
Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, “Invent ‘multiculturalism’ and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.
Third, “We could make the United States a ‘Hispanic Quebec’ without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: ‘The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved! Not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'”
Lamm said, “I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.” 
“Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.”
“My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of ‘Victimology.’ I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.”
“My sixth plan for America’s downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other – that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity! Unity is what it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games.
A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell.
“E. Pluribus Unum” — From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the ‘pluribus’ instead of the ‘Unum,’ we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo.”
“Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of ‘diversity.’ I would find a word similar to ‘heretic’ in the 16th century – that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like ‘racist’ or ‘x! xenophobes’ halt discussion and debate.”
“Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of ‘Victimology,’ I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.” 
In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, “Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis’s book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don’t read that book.”
There was no applause.
A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate ‘diversity.’ American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America — take note of California and other states — to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell’s book “1984.” In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: “War is peace,” “Freedom is slavery,” and “Ignorance is strength.”
Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy are deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don’t get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

85 comments:

  1. EILAT, Israel — The founders of the controversial opposition research firm Fusion GPS admitted that they helped the researcher hired to compile the infamous, largely discredited 35-page dossier on President Donald Trump to share the document with Sen. John McCain.
    The goal of providing the dossier to McCain, the Fusion GPS founders explained, was to pass the information contained in the questionable document to the U.S. intelligence community under the Obama administration.

    The disclosure raises questions about whether McCain knew that the information he delivered to the intelligence community was actually an opposition document reportedly funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

    McCain’s office did not reply yesterday to a Breitbart News request for comment on the matter.

    Last December, it was revealed that it was McCain who notoriously passed the controversial dossier documents produced by the Washington opposition research firm Fusion GPS to then FBI Director James Comey, whose agency reportedly utilized the dossier as a basis for its probe into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

    Writing in a New York Times oped last Tuesday, Fusion GPS founders Glenn R. Simpson and Peter Fritch relate that they helped McCain share their anti-Trump dossier with the intelligence community via an “emissary.”

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  2. McCain is finally riding off into the sunset, bless his heart.

    We need an English language amendment.

    Business and government is conducted in English.

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    1. In India most everyone is bilingual these days..English and one of the other 20 or so languages.

      English is being taught from the early grades up.

      Everyone can talk to one another !!

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    2. .

      What nonsense.

      One of the issues noted above is the use of one official language in America. I have always contended that this country only needs 1 'official language'. Of course, it would make it difficult on people coming here who do not speak English. Tough. It's supposed to be difficult. If you want American citizenship, work for it.

      Unfortunately, the US has no official language. And it likely never will. That ship has sailed because of politics. All this support for multi-culturalism comes from the states, localities, and businesses that think doing so is in their own self-interest.

      That said, you're constant fanaticizing about India and all things there past and present, evidently because of some weird relationship with an Indian girl you rented to for a couple months is annoying. Learn a few facts before you continue waxing poetic about India and boring the shit out of the rest of us.

      India is the worst country in the world to use as an example of building integration through a common language. It has two official languages Hindi and English, English only because of the British colonial rule and the forced use of the language there for official business over the 350 years they controlled the country.

      Today about 13% of Indians can speak English. Not all that impressive when you think that around 22% of non-Spanish Americans can speak Spanish enough to carry on a conversation.

      India has 23 constitutionally recognized official languages. Hindi and English are the official languages used by the Central Government. State governments use respective official languages.

      Hindi is the most widely spoken language in northern parts of India. The Indian census takes the widest possible definition of "Hindi" as a broad variety of "Hindi languages".[2] According to 2001 Census, 53.6% of Indian population declared that they speak Hindi either as first or second language, in which 41% of them have declared it as their native language or mother tongue.[3][4][5] 13% Indians declared that they can speak English as a second language.[6]

      Thirteen languages account for more than 1% of Indian population each, and between themselves for over 95%; all of them are "scheduled languages of the constitution". Scheduled languages spoken by fewer than 1% of Indians are Santali (0.63%), Kashmiri (0.54%), Nepali (0.28%), Sindhi (0.25%), Konkani (0.24%), Dogri (0.22%), Meitei (0.14%), Bodo (0.13%) and Sanskrit (In the 2001 census of India, only 14,135 people reported Sanskrit as their native language).[7] The largest language that is not "scheduled" is Bhili (0.95%), followed by Gondi (0.27%), Khandeshi (0.21%), Tulu (0.17%) and Kurukh (0.10%).

      Indian population in 1991 exhibited 19.4% of bilingualism and 7.2% of trilingualism, so that the total percentage of "native languages" is at about 127%.


      WIKI

      Heck, a larger percentage of Americans are bilingual than Indians are.

      This fit falls right in there with the other bullshit myths you promote here, colonialism was the greatest thing to ever happen to India, the jig is up with the caste system there and it will soon be gone (the biggest marriage arranging sight in India uses an algorithm to fit people together and one of the primary categories listed is caste), and that the Hindu religion is tolerant and peace loving (try reading an Indian paper rather than jihad watch).

      .

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    3. Bottom Line:

      If 75% of all immigrants to the US voted Republican, there would be no diversity, no multiculturalism, a wall about 25 meters wide, mine fields, machine-gun towers and a free fire zone, 24 hour immigration courts, all manned with Democrats.

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    4. What did I tell you ?

      I said India has about 20 languages and the two official ones are Hindi and English. I should have added dozens of dialects.

      You have confirmed what I said NITWIT.

      You don't really think the USA has more bilyinquals......DO YOU ?

      Think about that a little bit and get back to me.

      There is a new language gaining ground on the interest.

      It sounds as if spoken in the vacuum of space is irrational and carries no meaning

      It's name is Quirkese.

      It has recently been judged a national security threat.

      It rots minds

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    5. I said English is being taught now in the early grades nearly everywhere. It takes time.

      Look at you for instance....you often have no idea what you are reading or writing and no one else can understand what you are writing either.

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    6. Look how you are confounded....???....by a simple statement by Deuce.

      No comprehension.

      You test everyone's patience.

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  3. Even among the upper crust 1% intelligentsia in Germany English is spoken.

    It's gonna be either English or Chinese pictograms....go English the ever evolving language of the world !

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  4. Can't we all just get along?

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  5. "People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible for the older people and the kids? … It’s just not right. It’s not right. It’s not, it’s not going to change anything. We’ll, we’ll get our justice … Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to work it out.'

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    1. Yada yadayada yada yad

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    3. Send the Hindus Home !!!

      US jobs for US citizens first -
      Not to foreiners that suppress US wages.

      Send 'em home !!!

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      Let’s try to beat it.

      At your age, Doug, that can sometimes be a challenge. Pick up the latest Hustler and try, try, try.

      .

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  6. I just had a really good Chinese dinner !!

    I feel wonderful.

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    2. Hanoi Jane would eat Vietnamese Cuisine...

      Sloppy and loose with the facts as always Rat...

      tell me still stalking the wrong chocolate chop in cleveland?

      I never get tired of that... .stalking the Chocolate Emporium for over a year.... LOL

      What a dumb fuck you are....


      LOL

      And by the way, Chinese food in America is "American Food", maybe you should do a column of dog meat, bear paw and such?

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    3. Kung Pao Chicken from Margret Kwo's works for me.

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  7. Hot Air now says Assange may not be getting out after all.

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  8. VIDEO: Local girls find Maui at Kapolei Costco

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=lSaGEo3UfBk

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  9. Beginning Thursday, roughly 215 workers from the Carrier facility in Indiana who thought Donald Trump would save their jobs will be out of work. This in addition to the 340 jobs eliminated from the same Indianapolis factory in July

    Trump used the plant during his campaign, telling workers he would keep jobs like theirs in the United States and punish manufacturers who moved facilities out of the country

    The jobs of the Indianapolis workers have been moved to Mexico



    Promises Made ... Promises Broken.

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  10. Not to worry ...
    Senor Pena will still not be paying for US border security.

    As tax reform became a tax cut, now the border wall becomes border security.

    And Senor Pena is laughing at the Donald.

    He got the punchline of the joke...
    You know, the one Mr Mueller is telling to the Grand Jury.

    Har de har har.

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  11. President Trump called Haiti and Africa “shitholes” during an immigration meeting with lawmakers Thursday, according to a new report.

    “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” the president said, according to the Washington Post, which cites “two people briefed on the meeting.”

    Politicians at the bipartisan Oval Office pow-wow were left flabbergasted by the remark, according to the paper.

    https://nypost.com/2018/01/11/trump-reportedly-smears-haiti-africa-as-s-tholes/

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  12. Calling Haiti a shit hole is gilding the poison ivy. Find any large metropolitan area in most of Central and West Africa and you will find shit holes.

    Those sinking stinking overcrowded ships floating from Africa to Europe are not leaving paradise.

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  13. I see Jack is back breaking the rules of decorum not to mention sanity once again.

    My friends at the Chinese restaurant have been here for at least three generations.

    They are as American as Apple Pie..

    I'll watch Fox and maybe fall asleep and we can all hope Jack goes away and takes his hatred with him.

    CIAO to all you others !!!!

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    1. Deep cover agents of Charlie Chicom, Robert "Stable Ignoramus" Peterson..

      Those Chinamen at the restaurant, they did not assimilate, or after three generations, they would no longer be considered Chinese.

      But Americans, selling American food.

      Their very behaviour, by not assimilating, makes them agents of China and its Communist culture.

      Send 'em back to China !!!

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    2. By being agents of Chinese culture, Communist culture, they have rejected America and its superior culture of Big Macs and Corn Dogs.

      They have rejected the gastronomic culture that makes US exceptional.

      Send 'em to Haiti.

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  14. If one is naive enough to not understand what a shithole looks like, I highly recommend Haiti.

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  15. Some elements of the American Left are turning against the PINK PUSSY CAP MOVEMENT on the grounds that it is TRANSPHOBIC AND RACIST.

    It is hard to disagree with the charge of RACISM AS not ALL pussies are PINK.

    I am hoping THE QUIRKSTER will weigh in on these questions as he is a man of uncommon good sense and knows a thing or two and knows what's up.

    I am interested to know if he thinks the PINK PUSSY CAP MOVEMENT is a cover for TRANSPHOBIA.

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  16. .

    Look how you are confounded....???....by a simple statement by Deuce.

    You seem to be on the same wave length as Deuce, old timer, why don't you translate his comment into your usual fractured English for me.

    .


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    1. QUIRK in Hinduism the idea is to finally get to the top of the mountain.

      Any trail that leads there is OK even if it takes a little longer, in this life or some other. One can go up the North slope or the East, South or West slope, or even round and round in a spiral upwards even with a step back bow and then as long as one finally gets there.

      These other paths are other traditions, Quirko.

      Just don't go DOWN the mountain.

      Yes there are some intolerant idiot Hindus just as there are some intolerant Christians and Jews and millions of intolerant nuzzles.

      I am speaking of their philosophical outlook here.

      It does not care how one gets to the top of the mountain, just get there.

      Do well.

      One cannot kill injure or rape one's way there, as one can in the muzzle hallucination, which panders to the worst instincts of the natural raw thoughtless human male.

      It is this outlook that differs from so many in our world.

      Even the Catholics are coming round to it, I have lately heard it rumored.

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    2. You'll wait ?

      How long does it take for Hell to freeze over ?

      I refuse to do your intellectual work for you.

      YOUR growth doea not occur in such a manner.

      Give it a try and I will give you your proper grade though and try to help you along.

      Always looking out for you....

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      You are a friggin moron, Bob. You haven't got a clue as to what Deuce's point was just like me and you just spent a foot of blog space doing everything but proving that you know what the heck you are talking about, you dump shit.

      .

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  17. Take the family for some fun and sun in Haiti. Have a salad or two. Take a stroll in the evening. Carry a wallet and wear a watch. You'll love it.

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    1. Ah, a Rat Lungworm salad! (Angiostrongylus cantonensis)

      You can get it from organic lettuce on Maui also.

      Always miserable, sometimes deadly.

      https://www.google.com/search?q=rat+lungworm&rlz=1CAACAO_enUS720US720&oq=rat+lungworm&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60j69i65l2.6462j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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    1. James Comey subtweets Trump over 'shithole' remark by quoting poem engraved on Statue of Liberty

      Former FBI Director James Comey attributed America’s “greatness” to its “diversity," following President Trump’s alleged remarks calling Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations “shithole countries.”

      “‘Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!’

      "This country’s greatness and true genius lies in its diversity,” Comey tweeted Thursday night.

      True genius, and a tower of integrity.

      http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/james-comey-subtweets-trump-over-shithole-remark-by-quoting-poem-engraved-on-statue-of-liberty/article/2645720

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    2. Why does the Dominican Republic always rate higher than Haiti ?

      What accounts for this ?

      What is the difference ?

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  19. Just think how well Haitians will do, eating chop suey and fried wontons.

    Send those Chinese Commies to Haiti and the Hindus back to where they came from

    What part of TEMPORARY Work Permit do they not understand?

    US jobs for US citizens.

    Send the Hindus home!!!

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  20. Everybody to get from street!

    http://www.ksby.com/story/37245469/video-get-out-of-here-go-man-witnesses-moment-flash-flood-hits-montecito

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  21. "This country’s greatness and true genius lies in its diversity,” Comey tweeted Thursday night.


    Well we do know that no genius and greatness has come from the FBI.

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  22. KILLING TRUMP IS THE DEEP STATE OPTION C SAYS ROGER STONE

    See: American Thinker

    I can almost believe that.

    If Mueller fails, and impeachment fails....

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  23. South Africa earned the number 3 position of the top 10 shitholes in Africa on the list Deuce put up.

    I was a little surprised that Zimbabwe did not make the list.

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  24. I have gone to the minor trouble of activating my Google account on this device an LG cell phone.

    My computer failed and I haven't gotten another yet.

    I went to this minor trouble of creating a new password because someone, I believe Jack Hawkins had put up a couple of posts recently using the name Bob.

    I didn't want this sort of juvenile behavior to continue.

    I hope this solves the problem.

    Trouble is I can't seem to cut and paste using this single finger peck and type phone.

    It does e everything else....I can watch Fox News on it for instance.

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    1. Geez, you can get a good Chromebook for 250 bucks!

      Delete
    2. I have looked at them.

      I am thinking about it.

      I am looking for sometbing that has a better power plug in than that shitty little L shaped plug on the side, which has failed me at about the two year mark the last two computers.

      So far I haven't found anything but these designed obsolecence pieces of crap.

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    3. This phone will show me where I am if I fail to remember where I am if I remember to use it !!!!

      Delete
    4. Also I can call people on it if I fall down and break my hip again !

      Delete
    5. "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up" used to be a laugher for us young immortals.
      Now it's almost a pathetic reality.

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    6. Ain't that the sad truth.

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  25. I read some time ago a long article about the Hindus in Toronto, Canada. They make up something like 12% of this famously diverse city.

    The article said they were the most upwardly mobile group there generally excelling in whatever they try, the professions for instance.

    AND THEY HAVE NEVER BLOWN ANYTHING UP YET NOR SHOT UP ANY CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES OR MOSQUES.

    NOR DO THE MALES RAPE WOMEN ON THE STREETS.

    FAMILY ORIENTED DAD IS WITH THE FAMILY PROVIDING FOR THEIR NEEDS.

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  26. WAS SETH RICH KILLED OVER THE STEELE DOSIER ?

    Daniel Sobieski

    You connect the dots.

    Interesting article....

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      More Grim Fairy Tales

      BobFri Jan 12, 02:17:00 AM EST

      Gee, all the good Indians must have migrated to Toronto...

      AND THEY HAVE NEVER BLOWN ANYTHING UP YET NOR SHOT UP ANY CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES OR MOSQUES.

      You'll pardon me, if I view your comments as more of your usual fantasies.

      Hindu Radicals Launch at Least 23 Attacks during 2017 Christmas Season in India

      International Christian Concern (ICC) has learned that at least 23 religiously-motivated attacks took place during the 2017 Christmas season, including attacks on carolers and open threats against Christian celebrations. The attacks have led to several Christians' hospitalization and imprisonment. The persecution created such fear among the Christian community that many Christians did not celebrate Christmas this year.

      On December 19, an attack occurred in Rajasthan by a radical Hindu group, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, against a Christian gathering in response to alleged forced conversions. According to Pastor Bansilal Mena, one of the organizers of the event, more than 300 Christians gathered at a community hall to celebrate Christmas, after receiving permission to hold the event. In the middle of the celebration, 20 Hindu radicals barged into the hall along with police personnel and began attacking the Christians, even though the Christians had received permission to hold the event. In addition, Hindu radicals went on stage, pulled wires, and destroyed Christian literature.

      In another attack, 30 Catholic carolers attempting to spread joy through singing were attacked and their car was torched outside of a police station in the state of Madhya Pradesh. The president of the Catholic Bishops' Conference of India, Cardinal Baselios Cleemis, told the press in a December 20 press release, "Indian Christians' trust in the government has become shaky in the wake of increased attacks on Christians and members of the clergy."

      Dr. John Dayal, member of India's National Integration Council, told ICC, "As at the First Christmas, [there] has been joy, but under the shadow of fear. In some small towns and villages in central India, it [Christmas] was not celebrated in the open for fear of marauding hordes of the Sangha Parivar or a Police group which fancies itself the custodian of Hindu culture..."


      Gee, that sounds kind of familiar. And heck, a couple years ago nationalist politicians there were calling
      for forced sterilization of Christians and Muslims…

      https://www.christiantoday.com/article/india-hindu-nationalist-politician-calls-for-sterilisation-of-christians-and-muslims-to-control-numbers/52063.htm

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      NOR DO THE MALES RAPE WOMEN ON THE STREETS.

      Where do they rape them?

      Sexually abused and seen as the lowest of the low: life as an 'untouchable' Dalit woman

      Haryana, India (CNN) - In India's caste system, the Dalits are traditionally regarded as the lowest of the low. Seen as "unclean," they are considered untouchable by the higher castes.

      The country's 2011 census, the latest available, states that just over 16 percent of India's population are Dalits -- making up roughly 200 million people. According to India's National Crime Records Bureau, more than four Dalit women are raped every day in India. The NRCB's 2014 statistics say crime against Dalits rose 19%. In many of the cases, these crimes are committed by upper caste perpetrators.

      Last week, a young Dalit woman in the state of Haryana reported being gang raped by a group of men, including some of the same individuals accused of raping her three years ago. Police say those suspects were out on bail awaiting trial for the previous allegations…


      And they are not all that particular...

      Nun, 71, raped by six men at a Christian schools as she tried to stop them from raping another woman

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      And that four rapes a day is a crap statistic. As in many cultures, official statistics are greatly understated. Only a small percentage are reported, even fewer are investigated, less actually brought to trial, and it is rare when there is a conviction. And even with a conviction, it often just ends up with the guy paying a fine.

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    4. .

      Here's one I have to throw in to make your day, Bob.

      The Taj Mahal

      Iconic, exquisite, painfully beautiful, what worldtravellerattractions.com calls arguably the most beautiful building in the world, and one of the first things most think of when they think of India.

      The size and originality of the design, the engineering applied and the magnitude of the project is outlined here and is impressive...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taj_Mahal

      The building is the embodiment of India and was built by Shah Jahan, the Mughal emperor, a Muslim.

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    5. Nice building..

      The Hindus lost over 80 MILLION DEAD resisting the muzzle takeover of their lands.

      Make your day ?

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    6. The building is most assuredly NOT THE EMBODIMENT OF INDIA.....HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY COME UP WITH SUCH ABSURD HORSESHIT ?

      The 80 MILLION DEAD BINDUS WHO DIED RESISTING THE MUZZIE INVASIONS ARE AN EMBODIMENT OF INDIA, IN THE NEXT LIFE.

      TRIPLE F- on that idiocy QUIRK.

      GO TO THE BACK OF THE CLASS.

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    7. The building is most assuredly NOT THE EMBODIMENT OF INDIA.....HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY COME UP WITH SUCH ABSURD HORSESHIT ?

      The 80 MILLION DEAD BINDUS WHO DIED RESISTING THE MUZZIE INVASIONS ARE AN EMBODIMENT OF INDIA, IN THE NEXT LIFE.

      TRIPLE F- on that idiocy QUIRK.

      GO TO THE BACK OF THE CLASS.

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      The building is most assuredly NOT THE EMBODIMENT OF INDIA.....HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY COME UP WITH SUCH ABSURD HORSESHIT ?

      Well, true, the embodiment of the real India is dirt and disease and pollution, poverty and caste, poor transportation and an ungodly inefficient bureaucracy, a land of people being killed over cows, a pit.

      But I'm talking the idealized India of Westerners who aren't forced to or don't want to see the reality.

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    India Redux

    You don't really think the USA has more bilyinquals......DO YOU ?

    Bilyinuqals? The first thing that came to mind was it was some sexual reference about some new trending ‘identity’ dreamed up at Yale or SoCal, but then on second thought and given the context of what we were discussing , I thought it could have something to do with bilinguals. If that is the case, then my answer is no. The one sentence in which I mentioned bilinguals was poorly written for which I apologize. I wrote it within the context and in reference to your silly arguments about the universality of English in India and the idea that everyone there can talk to each other because of it.

    In India most everyone is bilingual these days..English and one of the other 20 or so languages.

    No. You’re wrong. Of those Indians that are bilingual, the vast majority of them speak Hindi as a ‘second language’ not English.

    And no, it may be an official language in India but English is not the universal language there, and where it exists, except among the wealthy and powerful who can afford or have access to good private schools, is pretty much unintelligible Hinglish. English is being forced down on the lower classes by the elitist powers at the top, not as a second language but as a requirement for any kind of upward mobility. However, there is a significant shortage of qualified teachers and people who actually could do the teaching don’t want to be teachers.

    The Raj continues in India in its unwieldy bureaucracy and the mandarins the Brits left behind.

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    1. I was going to give you a D- but will give you a D considering the effort expended.

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    2. All the foreign Hindu students in this area speak English and they ain't rich let me tell you..

      My Niece's parents don't speak English and are of modest means but their three children all do.

      They didn't teach them English it was the school system in Mumbai that did.

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    3. The BRITS left some MANDARINS??

      Are you certain ?

      The place is heavy with bureaucrats though.

      It's what you get with a billion + people.

      The new guy is trying to tame it a bit.

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    4. I gotta get some sleep. I had a long post which went disappearing and I'm pissed and tired.

      CIAO !!!!!

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    5. I gotta get some sleep. I had a long post which went disappearing and I'm pissed and tired.

      CIAO !!!!!

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    The trip to the UK that wasn't

    Trump has decided to cancel his scheduled trip to the UK for a ribbon cutting ceremony for the new US embassy there.

    His reasoning. This was the worst deal ever (the new building that is). Trump says he doesn't want to be associated with it even if it is just to cut the ribbon. This was another big Obama administration screw up.

    Evidently, none of his trusted minions informed Trump that the deal had been arranged long before Obama took office in 2009.

    The cynical might think Trump's excuse was just that, an excuse, and wonder if the threatened protests to his visit by groups in the UK or the nearly 700,000 who signed a petition to have his invitation withdrawn might have had something to do with it.

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  29. What is it about dirt and disease and pollution, poverty and caste, poor transportation and an ungodly inefficient bureaucracy that's wrong?

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  30. Does any other species have 7 billion assholes to produce shitholes?

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    2. (Ants and krill don't count)

      ...their shit ain't shit.

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      The Hindus lost over 80 MILLION DEAD resisting the muzzle takeover of their lands.

      Ah, the old 80 million killed meme. You spout this stuff as if it was something unique in history or different for the times. Once again, you show you are simply selective in your facts and avoid context less it mess up a good story.

      The 80 million number comes from estimates of deaths from the Muslim invasion of India that stretched over a 500 year period from the 11th to the 16th century. Savage and brutal, the carnage was real. What it wasn't was all that unusual.

      80 million deaths over 500 years. Heck, the Muslims were pikers. Concurrently with the Indian invasion, 16% of the world's surface was being taken over by the Mongol hordes. In a 200 year period (13th and 14th century), they were credited with wiping out 40 million people. Their one tactic was to offer the choice between surrender or death. Communities that chose the latter were simply wiped away. The Mongols would have been forced to kill a shitload more except that a lot more people surrendered than didn't. They are credited with actually changing the climate of the planet by turning cultivated fields into forests with the dead providing the fertilizer (700 million tons of Co2 taken out of the air).

      And what was the West doing during those times? Well, assuredly they didn't keep up their end of the bargain early on. A bunch of petty states and fiefdoms fighting among themselves. They did manage to conduct a few crusades but we know how that turned out. However, eventually they got their ass in gear and let the slaughter and carnage begin.

      The colonial period, around 400 years from the 15th to the mid 20th century, produced enough death and destruction of indigenous life to make the Muslim invasion of India look like a poor opening act for the real stars. Well over a 100 million killed mostly in the ME and Africa. Even more wiped out by disease brought in by the Western invaders. In a 200 year period, 15th to 17th century, 90-95% of the population of the Western Hemisphere, around 130 million people, was wiped out primarily by disease brought in by the invading Europeans.

      And that is just death under foreign invasion stretching over centuries. What about deaths stretching over a decade or less, Hitler, Stalin (23 million), Mao (70 million).

      It's a shit world, Bob. Get used to it. Stop picking your selective facts to make a point. There's always someone worse.

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