Rubio: Iran Could Nuke California Within a Decade
Speaking to some of the most influential Republican donors in the country at an Orange County retreat organized by billionaires Charles and David Koch, the Florida Republican sounded the alarm that Iran proses a real and short-term threat to Americans at home. Before a crowd of 450 donors, Rubio said Americans need to realize the dangers posed by an unchecked Iran, as well as rising threats from China and Islamic terrorism.
“Iran will be not just a nuclear weapon power, but will have the capability to deliver that weapon to the continental United States in less than a decade,” Rubio said. “I don’t think any of us wants to live in a country where a radical Shiite cleric in Tehran can have a nuclear weapon and an ICBM that can hit where we are sitting right now.”
Rubio is among the five Republican White House hopefuls who are meeting with key players of the political machine backed by the Kochs. In total, the groups plan to spend almost $900 million before Election Day 2016, although aides stress that the sum is not going to be spent entirely on political operations.
During an interview with Politico’s Mike Allen, Rubio told the donors that foreign policy should be a major qualification of the next President. Asked about the biggest threats facing the United States, Rubio cited Islamic terrorism, Russia and Iran. He also pointed to China, which he branded a serial violator of human rights. “I don’t want the most powerful country in the world to have values like that.”
He also took his turn with the friendly audience to ding Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton, the former Secretary of State. “It’s an issue that’s ongoing not just with her but also her husband, and that is the constant secrecy and drama that surrounds them everywhere they go,” Rubio said. “This country cannot afford another four years of drama that they seem to bring to everything that they’re involved in.”
This guy is the GOP savior?
ReplyDeleteNOT TO BE OUTDONE:
ReplyDeleteSen. Ted Cruz on Sunday said facts don’t support climate change, in a speech that described the notion as a front for power-hungry politicians who want to control Americans’ lives.
During an appearance before some of the most influential conservative donors in the country, the Texas Republican said there is no factual basis for scientists’ research that shows the planet is changing. The 2016 White House hopeful said none of the research is worth the paper it is printed on.
JEB BUSH:
DeleteFormer Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has no apologies for using a network of political committees to out-raise his rivals for the Republican presidential nomination.
“You are officially certified as the $120 million man,” Politico’s Mike Allen said to Bush during an on-stage interview at a summit of GOP mega-donors.
“What’s the question?” Bush deadpanned.
“How much is too much?” Allen pressed.
“I don’t know. But I think you might as well frontload it if you can.
(LOWER LAKE, Calif.)—Wildfires blazing in several Western states Sunday chewed up forests and threatened homes but were most numerous in Northern California where dozens are raging and setting off evacuations.
DeleteWildfires are also burning in Washington and Oregon.
The biggest California wildfire — raging in the Lower Lake area north of San Francisco — spread overnight to cover even more drought-stricken ground, expanding more than 30 square miles in four or five hours, said California’s Forestry and Fire Protection Director Ken Pimlott.
The fast-moving blaze had charred 71 square miles by Sunday, an area much bigger than San Francisco’s 49 square miles.
The fire has destroyed 24 homes and 26 outbuildings and was threatening 5,000 homes.
Many of the California blazes were sparked by lightning and exacerbated by tinder dry trees and grass and erratic winds, Pimlott said.
“The biggest challenge is the extreme and explosive rates of spread of these fires,” he said.
More than 9,000 firefighters are working to quell the blazes. One firefighter was killed late last week at the scene of a fire at the Modoc National Forest, 100 miles south of the Oregon border.
Gov. Jerry Brown declared a state of emergency for California and activated the California National Guard to help with disaster recovery.
California on Sunday secured a grant from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, to help ensure the availability of vital resources to suppress the blaze burning in Lake County, said California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services Director Mark Ghilarducci.
Conservative billionaire Charles Koch is predicting average American incomes of $100,000 annually in roughly a decade if government is scaled back and regulations are scrapped.
DeleteOne way to get there? Building and using more bombs, he jokingly told about 450 donors to the political network he backs.
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DeleteBut what is the median income?
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In an interview with Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, Face the Nation host John Dickerson ignored new controversial comments from the former Arkansas governor and Fox News host about using the FBI or U.S. military forces to stop legal abortions throughout the country.
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump on Sunday said Vice President Joe Biden would “do very well” if he entered the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.
ReplyDeleteAppearing by phone on ABC’s “This Week” and CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Trump was asked to respond to weekend reports the vice president was considering a challenge to front-runner Hillary Clinton.
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Trump, who has shot to the top of the Republican public opinion polls, said Biden would “have a good chance of beating” Clinton — a better chance now than he would have had several months ago. Trump said the controversies over the personal e-mail account that she used as secretary of state could be a “devastating blow.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/donald-trump-joe-biden-2016-120905.html#ixzz3hiIZXfL2
Chris Christie, John Kasich and Rick Perry are fighting for the last two spots on the debate stage — and after a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll Sunday morning, Perry is still most in danger of failing to qualify.
ReplyDeleteThe three candidates are all at 3 percent in the new poll. But according to a Campaign Pro analysis of the five most recent live-caller surveys, Christie and Kasich are tied for ninth place, at 3.2 percent. Perry is outside of the top 10, in 11th place, at 2.6 percent.
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The new poll continues to show Donald Trump leading the field. Trump is at 19 percent, followed by Scott Walker at 15 percent. Jeb Bush (14 percent) and Ben Carson (10 percent) are the other two candidates who earn double-digit support.
Walker has nudged in front of Bush in the average of the five most recent polls, putting him in second place behind Trump. In fourth place, both in the new poll and the average, is Ben Carson.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/2016-debate-rick-perry-11th-place-120903.html#ixzz3hiIqqQYR
HOW THEY ALL STAND:
ReplyDeleteWashington (CNN) A new poll from Quinnipiac University finds Donald Trump with a significant lead over his closest rivals for the Republican nomination for president, and provides further evidence the field of 16 candidates vying for the GOP nomination has a clear top tier.
Trump tops the field at 20% in the poll, Quinnipiac's first since the businessman announced his run for the presidency in June. He is followed not by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, but by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker at 13%. Bush follows Walker at 10%. This trio comprises the only Republican candidates in double-digits in each of the last four publicly released national polls.
Behind them, Quinnipiac finds a group of four tied at 6%: retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Ohio Gov. John Kasich are just a shade behind at 5%.
Deuce, you don't think Iran is any threat to anyone.
ReplyDeleteThat's why it's important to repeat time and again that Iran invests 1 billion a year in ICBM research and development.
Us Israel "1sters" understand that Iran doesn't need ICBM's to nuke Israel.
But America?
ICBM's are perfect to light up an EMP with.
Go ahead and dismiss Iran's threat to the USA. You Iranian "1sters" do not see any threat from Iran.
Iran, with it's proxies Assad of Syria, Sadr's type militias in Iraq, Hezbollah and off again, on again Hamas have killed close to 850,000 and made refugees of over 15 million.
ReplyDeleteThis is a fact.
What makes you think that Iran has only peaceful intentions to the USA?
What part of "death to America" do you not understand?
Do you not believe their own words?
http://nypost.com/2015/08/01/iran-publishes-book-on-how-to-outwit-us-and-destroy-israel/
ReplyDeletegreat article.
do you have the balls to read it?
If it is in the New York Post, it will not be a great article.
ReplyDeleteSo you don't have the balls to read it?
DeleteWASHINGTON (AP) — It took Ted Cruz three months to raise $10 million for his campaign for president, a springtime sprint of $1,000-per-plate dinners, hundreds of handshakes and a stream of emails asking supporters to chip in a few bucks.
ReplyDeleteOne check, from one donor, topped those results.
New York hedge fund magnate Robert Mercer’s $11 million gift to a group backing the Texas Republican's White House bid put him atop a tiny group of millionaires and billionaires whose contributions already dwarf those made by the tens of thousands of people who have given to their favorite presidential candidate.
An Associated Press analysis of fundraising reports filed with federal regulators through Friday found that nearly 60 donations of a million dollars or more accounted for about a third of the more than $380 million brought in so far for the 2016 presidential election. Donors who gave at least $100,000 account for about half of all donations so far to candidates' presidential committees and the super PACs that support them.
Obama has unfrozen 11.6 BILLION dollars to Iran.
DeleteThat's 11,600 MILLION dollars.
Ted Cruz raised 10 million...
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A wildfire raging through northern California more than doubled in size on its fifth day on Sunday, expanding to 84 square miles (220 sq km).
ReplyDeleteThe first six months of the year have been the hottest since global temperature records were compiled 136 years ago.
DeleteAccording to a new report compiled by the US Government’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration June was the hottest since 1880, as were March and May, while January and February were the second hottest.
From heavy rains in Turkey and the Ohio Valley to soaring temperatures in Alaska and Spain, the world has faced some of the most extreme weather since records began.
“We are on an escalator and there is no sign of it slowing down.” a spokesman for the NOAA said.
Over the past month record temperatures were recorded in Britain and in the United States searing heat has led to a wave of forest fires.
Not only have temperatures been rising but they have been doing so at an unprecedented rate, said Jessica Blunden, a climate scientist with the agency.
The world's average temperature in June hit 61.48F (16.33C) breaking the old record set last year by 0.22F (0.12C).
“This is a huge margin.”
HERE IS AN ARTICLE MORE TO THE POINT:
ReplyDeleteWe – Iran and its interlocutors in the group of nations known as the P5+1 – have finally achieved the shared objective of turning the Iranian nuclear programme from an unnecessary crisis into a platform for cooperation on nuclear non-proliferation and beyond. The nuclear deal reached in Vienna this month is not a ceiling but a solid foundation on which we must build. The joint comprehensive plan of action, as the accord is officially known, cements Iran’s status as a zone free of nuclear weapons. Now it is high time that we expand that zone to encompass the entire Middle East.
The Guardian view on the Iran nuclear deal: a triumph of diplomacy
Editorial: This is the chance for Iran to play a more constructive role in the affairs of the Middle East – and for its people to come in from the cold
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Iran’s push for a ban on weapons of mass destruction in its regional neighbourhood has been consistent. The fact that it precedes Saddam Hussein’s systematic use of WMDs against Iran (never reciprocated in kind) is evidence of the depth of my country’s commitment to this noble cause. And while Iran has received the support of some of its Arab friends in this endeavour, Israel – home to the Middle East’s only nuclear weapons programme – has been the holdout. In the light of the historic nuclear deal, we must address this challenge head on.
One of the many ironies of history is that non-nuclear-weapon states, like Iran, have actually done far more for the cause of non-proliferation in practice than nuclear-weapon states have done on paper. Iran and other nuclear have-nots have genuinely “walked the walk” in seeking to consolidate the non-proliferation regime. Meanwhile, states actually possessing these destructive weapons have hardly even “talked the talk”, while completely brushing off their disarmament obligations under the non-proliferation treaty (NPT) and customary international law.
That is to say nothing of countries outside the NPT, or Israel, with an undeclared nuclear arsenal and a declared disdain towards non-proliferation, notwithstanding its absurd and alarmist campaign against the Iranian nuclear deal.
notwithstanding its absurd and alarmist campaign against the Iranian nuclear deal.
DeleteDO you admit that Iran calls for the destruction of Israel?
Do you admit that Iran arms, trains and helps Hezbollah, Hamas and Syria in it's quest to destroy Israel?
Is it alarmist to remove sanctions on Iran's ICBM and weapons importation when it in fact DOES advocate the erasing Israel off the map?
So Israel is alarmist because a nation 100 times it's size demands it's destruction by any means....
DeleteIsrael is not a victim.
DeleteIsrael is a belligerent with two hundred nuclear weapons.
DeleteWell then maybe Israel should preemptively use 15 to 20 on Iran?
DeleteIF Iran had 200 nukes they would have nuked Israel decades ago.
"Israel is a belligerent with two hundred nuclear weapons"
LOL
Standard propaganda response.
Sorry Deuce, Israel will not go quietly into the night (remember you scolded the Jews of Europe for not fighting the Nazis?)
Iran is publicly telling the world Israel is a cancer than must be cut out.
Rule #1: If your enemy declares "i want you dead" listen and believe.
Iran is the belligerent. It has declared war on Israel. Not the other way around.
The Islamic Revolution in Iran, has declared America, the west, Israel and even the sunnis as enemies.
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DeleteSo Israel is alarmist because a nation 100 times it's size demands it's destruction by any means....
If you actually read the article you put up, you would see your statement is not true.
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What part of my statement is incorrect?
DeleteBe specific.
What article did I "put up"?
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DeleteThe one you charged that Deuce didn't 'have the balls' to read.
http://nypost.com/2015/08/01/iran-publishes-book-on-how-to-outwit-us-and-destroy-israel/
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DeleteThe incorrect part is the that Iran demands Israel's destruction by any means
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wow that's specific.
DeleteIran has not committed to using water guns, nor comedy, nor excessive amounts of goat fat...
SO you are technically correct.
Iran will try to genocide Israel with many methods including but not limited to: Nuclear weapons, non-nuclear weapons, mass hysteria that provokes another proxy war..
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DeleteNonsense.
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I love your quick and meaningless answers.
DeleteSo you are saying?
Iran accepts Israel's right to be a nation?
Iran isn't trying to wipe it off the map?
Iran is not spending billions a year on ICBMs? On supporting terrorism?
LOL
Quirk, quirk, quirk, what a crazy old fool you have evolved into.
Iran (the mullah's and the revolutionary guard" are islamic nazis.
So you can not be wary of them, you can not fear them and you can scoop and laugh at them...
But I take them at their words and deeds.
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DeleteBut I take them at their words and deeds.
If you took them at their words, you would read past the headline 'Death to Israel' and listen when they explain that the words do not mean attacking Israel in a nuclear or even conventional military sense thus denying the comments that I objected to,
Iran will try to genocide Israel with many methods including but not limited to: Nuclear weapons, non-nuclear weapons, mass hysteria that provokes another proxy war..
Or, as you put it by any means necessary.
That is not to say Iran is a good guy. They have vowed to support any groups opposing the Zionist state of Israel and in doing so weakening Israel and eventually encouraging Jews to leave. They are trying to help bring about a one-state solution although that state would not be Zionist. It would be a democratic state although it would be Arab Palestinians that held the majority. Bad enough and worthy of your opprobrium; however, your exaggerations on how they choose to get there diminishes your arguments.
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DeleteSo you are saying?
Iran accepts Israel's right to be a nation?
Iran isn't trying to wipe it off the map?
Iran is not spending billions a year on ICBMs? On supporting terrorism?
More nonsense.
I have no idea how much Iran is spending on ICBM's and I suspect you don't either. However, as to the others, this is another example of your inability to logically argue a point. I have never 'denied' any of the above. As a matter of fact, I can't remember saying anything positive about Iran here although I'm sure there are things. I merely point out the wild accusations and twisted facts you offer up here.
Like most of the countries in the ME, Iran is a dick nation.
Reason #4 the US should not be involved there.
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NOT MAKING ANY FRIENDS:
ReplyDeleteThe air campaign against Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has killed more than 450 civilians, according to a new report, even though the US-led coalition has so far acknowledged just two non-combatant deaths.
More than 5,700 air strikes have been launched in the campaign, which nears its first anniversary this Saturday, with its impact on civilians largely unknown.
Now Airwars, a project by a team of independent journalists, is publishing details of 52 strikes with what it believes are credible reports of at least 459 non-combatant deaths, including those of more than 100 children.
It says there is a “worrying gulf between public and coalition positions” on the campaign’s toll on civilians.
wow deuce, you finally admit that the surgical strikes by the US are in fact no more surgical than any other air force…
Delete“He can’t possibly win the nomination,” is the phrase heard most often when Washington insiders mention either Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders.
ReplyDeleteYet as enthusiasm for the bombastic billionaire and the socialist senior continues to build within each party, the political establishment is mystified.
Political insiders don’t see that the biggest political phenomenon in America today is a revolt against the “ruling class” of insiders that have dominated Washington for more than three decades.
In two very different ways, Trump and Sanders are agents of this revolt. I’ll explain the two ways in a moment.
Don’t confuse this for the public’s typical attraction to candidates posing as political outsiders who’ll clean up the mess, even when they’re really insiders who contributed to the mess.
What’s new is the degree of anger now focused on those who have had power over our economic and political system since the start of the 1980s.
Included are presidents and congressional leaders from both parties, along with their retinues of policy advisors, political strategists, and spin-doctors.
Most have remained in Washington even when not in power, as lobbyists, campaign consultants, go-to lawyers, financial bundlers, and power brokers.
The other half of the ruling class comprises the corporate executives, Wall Street chiefs, and multi-millionaires who have assisted and enabled these political leaders – and for whom the politicians have provided political favors in return.
America has long had a ruling class but the public was willing to tolerate it during the three decades after World War II, when prosperity was widely shared and when the Soviet Union posed a palpable threat. Then, the ruling class seemed benevolent and wise.
Yet in the last three decades – when almost all the nation’s economic gains have gone to the top while the wages of most people have gone nowhere – the ruling class has seemed to pad its own pockets at the expense of the rest of America.
We’ve witnessed self-dealing on a monumental scale – starting with the junk-bond takeovers of the 1980s, followed by the Savings and Loan crisis, the corporate scandals of the early 2000s (Enron, Adelphia, Global Crossing, Tyco, Worldcom), and culminating in the near meltdown of Wall Street in 2008 and the taxpayer-financed bailout.
Along the way, millions of Americans lost their jobs their savings, and their homes.
Meanwhile, the Supreme Court has opened the floodgates to big money in politics wider than ever. Taxes have been cut on top incomes, tax loopholes widened, government debt has grown, public services have been cut. And not a single Wall Street executive has gone to jail.
The game seems rigged – riddled with abuses of power, crony capitalism, and corporate welfare.
In 1964, Americans agreed by 64% to 29% that government was run for the benefit of all the people. By 2012, the response had reversed, with voters saying by 79% to 19% that government was “run by a few big interests looking after themselves.”
ReplyDeleteWhich has made it harder for ordinary people to get ahead. In 2001 a Gallup poll found 77 percent of Americans satisfied with opportunities to get ahead by working hard and 22 percent dissatisfied. By 2014, only 54 percent were satisfied and 45 percent dissatisfied.
The resulting fury at ruling class has taken two quite different forms.
On the right are the wreckers. The Tea Party, which emerged soon after the Wall Street bailout, has been intent on stopping government in its tracks and overthrowing a ruling class it sees as rotten to the core.
Its Republican protégés in Congress and state legislatures have attacked the Republican establishment. And they’ve wielded the wrecking balls of government shutdowns, threats to default on public debt, gerrymandering, voter suppression through strict ID laws, and outright appeals to racism.
Donald Trump is their human wrecking ball. The more outrageous his rants and putdowns of other politicians, the more popular he becomes among this segment of the public that’s thrilled by a bombastic, racist, billionaire who sticks it to the ruling class.
On the left are the rebuilders. The Occupy movement, which also emerged from the Wall Street bailout, was intent on displacing the ruling class and rebuilding our political-economic system from the ground up.
Occupy didn’t last but it put inequality on map. And the sentiments that fueled Occupy are still boiling.
Bernie Sanders personifies them. The more he advocates a fundamental retooling of our economy and democracy in favor of average working people, the more popular he becomes among those who no longer trust the ruling class to bring about necessary change.
Yet despite the growing revolt against the ruling class, it seems likely that the nominees in 2016 will be Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton. After all, the ruling class still controls America.
But the revolt against the ruling class won’t end with the 2016 election, regardless.
Which means the ruling class will have to change the way it rules America. Or it won’t rule too much longer.
Robert Reich
Or it won’t rule too much longer.
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What do you propose sine YOU are part of the "ruling class"?
DeleteYou jet across the world, live the dream, have no money issues….
You hardly qualify as a "working stiff"
As a member of the 1% what do you propose?
redistribution of your wealth?
Got Pot?
ReplyDeleteDemocratic edge in Hispanic voter registration grows in Florida
ReplyDeleteBy Jens Manuel Krogstad, Mark Hugo Lopez and Gustavo López1 comment
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Florida has long been a battleground state in presidential elections, with Hispanic voters playing a growing role in determining the outcome of the state’s presidential vote. If current trends hold, Hispanic voters will make up an even larger share of the state’s registered voters next year than in past years, but the profile of the Latino electorate has shifted over the past decade or so, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of state voter registration data.
Due to the state’s large Cuban voting bloc, the Latino vote had been reliably Republican. For example, President George W. Bush won both the Hispanic vote and the state in 2004. But 2008 represented a tipping point: More Latinos were registered as Democrats than Republicans, and the gap has only widened since then. This has led to the growing influence of Democrats among the state’s Hispanic voters in 2008 and 2012, two presidential elections in which Barack Obama carried both Hispanics and the state. At the same time, the number of Latino registered voters in Florida who indicate no party affiliation has also grown rapidly during this time, and by 2012 had surpassed Republican registrations.
Today, 4.5 million Hispanics live in Florida, making it the third-largest Hispanic population in the nation, behind California and Texas. It is also growing faster than Florida’s population. Today 24% of Floridians are Hispanic, up from 17% in 2000. Overall, 1.7 million Hispanics were registered to vote in Florida as of October 2014, according to the state’s Division of Elections.
Among all Floridians, registered Democrats outnumbered Republicans in 2014. This is due in part to Hispanics, who accounted for 72% of growth in the number of registered Democrats between 2006 and 2014. During this time, the number of Hispanic registered voters increased by 56%, while the number of Hispanics identifying as Democrats or having no party affiliation each increased by about 80%. The number of Hispanic Republican registered voters has grown too – but much more slowly (just 14%). As a result, among Hispanic registered voters in 2014, 662,000 were registered as Democrats, 575,000 indicated no party affiliation and 471,000 were registered as Republicans. (It’s worth noting that not all registered voters cast a ballot, and voter turnout has a large impact in swing states like Florida.)
DeleteHowever, in Miami-Dade County – home to 46% of the nation’s Cuban-American population – Republicans still outnumber Democrats among Hispanic registered voters. In 2014, there were 265,000 Republicans and 218,000 Democrats. But even in this Cuban stronghold, statewide trends hold true. Among Hispanic registered voters between 2006 and 2014, the number of Democrats increased 66% while the number of Republican registered voters was nearly flat.
In Florida’s two other counties with large Latino populations – Broward (north of Miami) and Orange (Orlando) – Latino registered voters have leaned more Democratic than the state, but the trend toward more registering as Democrats or professing no party identification applies there as well.
What’s behind these changes? On the one hand, the demographics of the state’s Hispanic population are growing more diverse. In 2013, Cubans made up a smaller share (31%) of Hispanic eligible voters – adult U.S. citizens – in Florida than they did in 1990 (46%). Meanwhile, over the same period, Puerto Ricans made up a larger share of the state’s Hispanic eligible voters, rising from 25% to 29%. These changes have been driven by the outmigration of Puerto Ricans from the island to central Florida and the movement of Puerto Rican-origin Hispanics in the northeast U.S. to central Florida. The share of Hispanic eligible voters of other ancestry (such as Mexico and South America) has also increased, from 29% then to 40% today.
DeleteOn the other, Cuban Americans and their politics are also changing. This group increasingly leans toward the Democratic Party as . . . . . .
Blue in '16?
QuirkTue Aug 04, 12:22:00 PM EDT
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So you are saying?
Iran accepts Israel's right to be a nation?
Iran isn't trying to wipe it off the map?
Iran is not spending billions a year on ICBMs? On supporting terrorism?
More nonsense.
I have no idea how much Iran is spending on ICBM's and I suspect you don't either. However, as to the others, this is another example of your inability to logically argue a point. I have never 'denied' any of the above. As a matter of fact, I can't remember saying anything positive about Iran here although I'm sure there are things. I merely point out the wild accusations and twisted facts you offer up here.
Like most of the countries in the ME, Iran is a dick nation.
Reason #4 the US should not be involved there.
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What is a wild accusation?
That Iran is investing in ICBM's?
Is that a twisted Fact?
That Iran seeks to destroy Israel?
Is that a wild accusation?
Is it a twisted fact to admit that Iran, with it's proxies have butchered almost a million people in Iraq and Syria?
Come on Quirk, don't be a dick...
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DeleteDamn, WiO, you have the attention span of a gnat.
This whole discussion started with my taking exception to your claim that Iran demands Israel's destruction 'by any means necessary' and the implications that comment carries. And lest there be any confusion about what you were talking about, you made it clear with this statement,
Iran will try to genocide Israel with many methods including but not limited to: Nuclear weapons, non-nuclear weapons, mass hysteria that provokes another proxy war..
I've made it clear what I was talking about and what I consider your wild accusations. Iran has no plans to launch a direct assault on Israel by either conventional military or nuclear means.
In a move typical of your style, instead of addressing the issue at hand you wander off into side issues.
I might be a dick but at least I can follow a blog stream and know the question I am talking about. You should try it sometime.
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WASHINGTON -- A key swing Democrat announced his support for the Iran nuclear agreement on Tuesday, citing it as an improvement over the status quo. Speaking from the Senate floor, Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) lauded the international community's use of diplomacy over force to bring about a peaceful agreement that will require Iran to dismantle the bulk of its nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief.
ReplyDelete"The agreement takes a nuclear weapons program that was on the verge of success and disables it for many years through peaceful diplomatic means with sufficient tools for the international community to verify whether Iran is meeting its commitments," Kaine said. "For this reason, I will support it."
Kaine's announcement comes ahead of a congressional vote on a resolution of disapproval on the nuclear deal, expected to occur when lawmakers return from their summer recess in September. If two-thirds of lawmakers vote against the nuclear deal, President Barack Obama will lose his ability to waive congressionally enacted sanctions -- a key component of the United States’ obligations under the agreement.
Kaine’s support represents a major win for the Obama administration, which has been aggressively lobbying members to support the nuclear accord or risk driving the U.S. to military confrontation with Iran.
"We must face the truth. A punishing sanctions regime did not stop Iran’s nuclear program," Kaine advised his colleagues on Tuesday. "The nuclear program will only stop by a diplomatic agreement or by military action. While military action must be an option, it is in America’s interest -- and the interest of the entire world -- to use every effort to find a diplomatic resolution."
Although Kaine, the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, is a close ally of the Obama administration, he has shown willingness to criticize the Obama administration for its tendency to sideline Congress, especially on foreign policy matters.
DeleteAs a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Kaine was an original co-sponsor of legislation that required Obama to give lawmakers 60 days to review the nuclear agreement and ultimately hold a vote on whether the president could retain his authority to waive sanctions that were initially passed by the legislature.
The Virginia Democrat has also been the leading critic of the Obama administration’s failure to gain an authorization for its war against the Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria -- although he places equal blame on his colleagues for failing to draft and vote on a new war authorization.
During his announcement, Kaine said the Iran nuclear accord is imperfect. "All parties made concessions, as is the case in any serious diplomatic agreement," he said. "But it has gained broad international support because it prevents Iran from getting sufficient uranium for a bomb for at least 15 years. It also stops any pathway to a plutonium weapon for that period and exposes Iranian covert activity to enhanced scrutiny by the international community forever."
Kaine’s public backing of the nuclear deal is likely to influence other fence-sitting Democrats, some of whom are hesitant to weigh in early on the Iran agreement and risk being accused of blindly adhering to party politics.
A Big "Get"
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DeleteI have to agree with Kaine.
People argue that the deal 'paves the way' for Iran to get the bomb. That's silly. Right now we are told Iran is a couple months away from being bomb capable. The agreement pushes that out to a year, as well as, pushing the entire process back to between 10 and 25 years. Not sure how that can be considered a bad thing.
When the agreement ends, the same obligations that exist today under the NPT will still exist.
If Iran cheats or quits the agreement, there is a process in place to assure sanctions will be re instituted.
People argue that Khamenei is a nut job. One thing we can be pretty sure of is that Khamenei probably will not be around when this agreement ends.
If the deal fails it will not unite and empower resistance forces inside of Iran. In fact, the opposite will likely happen as the Iranian people unite behind a nationalistic principle.
The alternative? We start out with the status quo. Other than a military option, there is nothing to prevent Iran from getting the bomb if in fact they want it. The sanctions regime will remain in place but as we have seen they haven't worked to date. Also, there is a very good chance that the sanctions will begin to fall apart as countries become disillusioned with US leadership on this issue.
As for the military option, without an occupation of Iran, the most Iran's program could be put back would be 2-3 years, a quarter of the time the agreement offers without war. The military option is one Israel likely couldn't carry out on its own. And the American people wouldn't put up with the US involved in another land war in the ME. And frankly, the Us and Israel would likely be the only countries willing to go to war with Iran.
The real issue for those opposed to the deal is the return of Iranian money and assets the West has seized as part of the sanctions program. They argue that all that money will be used to support resistance movements fighting Israel. However, this also is a specious argument. Iran has never stopped funding these people with or without sanctions. We can count on the bulk of the money going to help recover the Iranian economy. But perhaps this is what opponents of the deal really fear.
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So let's really really fund the pricks as they murder Jews and Americans.
DeleteWhat a pussy you are.
We can count on the bulk of the money going to help recover the Iranian economy
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Maybe when Iran funds a group that blows up your kids quirk you will care...
DeleteIsrael got more Americans killed than Iran ever has.
DeleteWASHINGTON -- Three key swing Democrats announced support for the Iran nuclear agreement on Tuesday, citing it as an improvement over the status quo. Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), the first to declare his position, gave a speech on the Senate floor lauding the international community's use of diplomacy over force to bring about a peaceful agreement that will require Iran to dismantle the bulk of its nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. He was followed by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Bill Nelson (D-Fla.)
ReplyDelete"The agreement takes a nuclear weapons program that was on the verge of success and disables it for many years through peaceful diplomatic means with sufficient tools for the international community to verify whether Iran is meeting its commitments," Kaine said. "For this reason, I will support it."
Shortly after Kaine’s speech, Boxer released a statement, framing the Iran nuclear accord as a benefit for Israeli security.
"I understand and share Israel's mistrust of Iran, and that is exactly why we need this agreement -- which is not based on trust, but on an unprecedented inspection and verification regime," Boxer said, noting that she drafted the last two major U.S.-Israel security bills.
"If we walk away from this deal, Iran would have no constraints on its nuclear program and the international sanctions that helped bring the Iranians to the table would collapse," she added.
Nelson’s vote of confidence in the Iran deal was the most surprising of the three lawmakers. He noted the large population of Holocaust survivors in Florida, and his personal conversations with Israeli ambassador to the U.S. Ron Dermer, a Florida native and one of the staunchest opponents of the nuclear deal. Nelson added that the family of Robert Levinson, a former FBI agent who has been missing in Iran for eight years, is among his constituents.
"This is personal for me," he said, speaking from the Senate floor on Tuesday.
These announcements come ahead of . . . .
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Delete“This is a very dangerous deal, and it threatens all of us,” Mr. Netanyahu said, adding: “The claim that we oppose this deal because we want war is not just false, it’s outrageous.”
ReplyDeleteMr. Netanyahu brushed aside public support that Gulf Arab states have offered for the deal, surmising that they will now pursue their own nuclear programs.
“The countries in the region threatened by Iran have already made clear that they will work to develop atomic bombs of their own,” Mr. Netanyahu said. “So the deal that was supposed to end nuclear proliferation will actually trigger nuclear proliferation.”