AND GAY MARRIAGE...
Hillary Clinton lashes out at NPR host during tense interview about gay marriage
The likely 2016 presidential candidate criticized ‘Fresh Air’ host Terry Gross for her persistence in asking about why she decided to publicly support gay-marriage after years of waffling on the issue.
BY ADAM EDELMAN NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Thursday, June 12, 2014, 5:28 PM
NPR’s Terry Gross, the host of the network’s “Fresh Air” program, repeatedly asked Clinton whether her decision to support gay marriage, after years of opposition and waffling, occurred because her views on the issue had changed or whether it was a result of growing national acceptance and the politics surrounding the once-controversial matter having changed.
Clinton publicly expressed her support for gay marriage last year, after she stepped down as Secretary of State, but that didn’t stop Gross from hammering her on the timing of the announcement — which, in turn, caused Clinton to grow frustrated.
“I have to say, I think you are being very persistent, but you are playing with my words and playing with what is such an important issue,” Clinton said in a testy exchange that ran several minutes.
“I’m just trying to clarify so I understand,” Gross responded.
“I have a strong record, I have a great commitment to this issue, and I am proud of what I’ve done and the progress we’re making,” Clinton added.
Gross then gently tried again to explain what she had attempted to ask before.
“I was saying that you maybe really believed (in) this all along but thought for political reasons America wasn’t ready yet and you couldn’t say it ,” Gross said.
“No, that is not true,” Clinton, who had appeared on the show to promote her new book “Hard Choices,” responded sharply.
Clinton, in fact, was lauded during her tenure at the State Department for her support of LGBT issues in internal department personnel matters.
But her public support of legalizing gay marriage came after years of providing unclear answers on the issue — in 2003, she told CBS News that she was against same-sex marriage, but supported same-sex civil unions — and only after several other prominent Democrats, including President Obama, Vice President Biden and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo came out in support of the issue.
The tense interview Thursday, which was taped and posted to the Internet by a Republican political action committee, marked the first time Clinton, who many think will run for President in 2016, has been so aggressively questioned about the change in her stance.
Later in the exchange, Clinton pointed out that even many long-time gay-marriage supporters couldn’t have anticipated its speedy acceptance on the national stage.
“I did not grow up even imagining gay marriage, and I don’t think you probably did, either,” she said to Gross. “This was an incredibly new and important idea that people on the front lines of the gay right movement began to talk about and slowly, but surely, convinced others of the rightness of that position. And when I was ready to say what I said, I said it.”
At least Hilary has the gut's to talk about it. John Bhoener dodges the question and goes on a 5 minute rant attacking the President. Once again, the head Republican has no answers. It just amazes me that as leader of congress you don’t believe any of those problems you are ranting about should be fixed by this Republican " Do Nothing" congress.
ReplyDeleteHowever, the Mideast is descending in to chaos and the recent assertiveness of Russia and China will dictate the next president will have to display competency in the handling of foreign affairs. Hillary Clinton’s lack of any discernible accomplishment as secretary of state will hurt her.
When you say Republican Do Nothing Congress, Mike, are you referring to the hundreds of bills that start in the House but never even get looked at in the Dirty Harry Senate? Things'll get better in 2014, and especially in 2016.
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ReplyDeleterevise and resubmit
ReplyDeleteIf you are referring to my astute comment, I decline on the grounds that it is the most complimentary thing I could to think to say about the good Lady.
ReplyDelete"Your name is Toby!"
Delete"I am Kunta Kinte!"
"Revise and resubmit!"
"I am Kunta Kinte!"
(Twenty-third stroke of the bull whip.)
"Revise and resubmit!"
Bob,
DeleteHere are some things that I've learned about politics and the thread of history:
NOTHING is by accident.
NOTHING is coincidence.
EVERYTHING is planned.
EVERYTHING we witness on the propaganda outlets is a fake manufactured dialectic, planned years and decades prior. The muppets selected for the theater change but the script and the system remain the same. There's NOTHING you can do to change things other than walk away from it all and let the system collapse under the weight of its own fraud and illegitimacy.
You are wasting your time and emotions. In your critical health condition you can ill afford this. You need to find a more positive way to keep your mind occupied. Cancer is as much an emotional disease as it is a physical disease.
The only constant thing about Grand Conspiracy Theories is that not only is there no evidence for them, the very lack of evidence is taken as the best proof the conspiracy is working.
DeleteEither one believes that WTC Building 7 collapsed by Coincidence or by Conspiracy.
DeleteThat the explanation for that collapse is that planes hit two of the three building that collapsed of 11SEP2001, not as part of a terrorist conspiracy, but by coincidence.
Then the building that was not hit by a plane, WTC Building 7, fell into it's own footprint, unlike a domino.
What was WTC 7, was that the place where they kept the Ark, the Magic Gun that shot the Magic Bullet to kill Kennedy, and the White House telegram ordering the hit on Norma Jean Baker?
DeleteThe Salomon Brothers building, WTC #7, fell by coincidence,that day.
DeleteAmongst all the debris, it was coincidence that Mohammed Atta's passport was picked up from the street, not magic.
In less than a week came another find, two blocks away from the twin towers, in the shape of Atta's passport. We had all seen the blizzard of paper rain down from the towers, but the idea that Atta's passport had escaped from that inferno unsinged would have tested the credulity of the staunchest supporter of the FBI's crackdown on terrorism.
Yet we were still in the infancy of coincidence. On September 24 the belongings of alleged terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui threw up a cropdusting manual, while four days later came Atta's suicide note, the one with the counsel to shine your shoes before you meet your maker - a piece of advice which seemed suspiciously Norman Rockwellesque. It was here, too, that the stuff about 72 virgins awaiting him in heaven first started to circulate.
Uncle Sam's "Lucky Finds"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/19/september11.iraq
Thanks, Mat.
DeleteI'll concentrate more on my family and niece.
And my photography.
I really can't stand politics anyway.
The Tomorrow Girl: Dresden Codak Volume 1
DeleteAh the old cancer is your fault meme - seems a gullible bob is ripe for a stroll down the garden path.
DeletePlease do that, Bob.
DeleteUnderstand they are laughing in your face:
ISIS, goddess ISIS, who nurses Horus the Pharaoh.. the Assyrian/Babylonian goddess Ishtar..
This is no coincidence.
EVERYTHING they present to you in the media is a manufactured holographic lie.
The way to beat them is to not participate in their games. Avoid them, detach from them, and let them disappear into the empty oblivion of complete rejection.
Yeah, ignore the cancer, think nice thoughts, take a walk down the garden path, and all will be well.
DeleteInteresting morning...
ReplyDeleteIn Syria, Iran and Hezbollah have created hundreds of thousands of deaths and millions of homeless, mostly Sunnis....
In Iraq? The opposite is occurring. The Sunni's are killing massive numbers and creating millions of homeless....
So, if you look at Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, the Palestinians, Mali and other arab areas the numbers of dead and truly homeless are stunning....
This all the more reason to bring Israel up on charges for war crimes
Of course, because ISIS is a Mossad operation top to bottom.
DeleteBoy oh boy, anonymous, that is because of all the wavering done by Israel on child prostitution issues.
DeleteVery similar to the Federal government of the United States and their "War on Drugs", which is a crime against individual liberty and freedom.
Israel has positioned itself in a similar legal morass, with regards to their "War Against Morality".
Age of child prostitutes in Israel dropping, report finds
Knesset study cites cases of 11-year-olds used for commercial sex that are among the several thousands of teenagers involved in prostitution.
By Vered Lee
Mon Dec 16, 11:34:00 AM EST
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.542420
As allen referenced in the past ...
"Spengler's Laws": "When a nation is reduced to selling its women, it's lost."
"How much for the women? Your girls! I want to buy them!" -- Jim Belushi being an ass in a restaurant in "The Blues Brothers"
DeleteMohammed's wife was 9 years old.
DeleteIn Arizona many a cowboy was known to marry horses much less than 9 years old.
American tourists fly to Thailand to "purchase" 11 year old virgins. They have said their largest demographic are 60 something old white men that are single, live alone, smoke pot, shoot weapons ride horses and stalk people on the internet.
PHOENIX - An international child porn ring with ties to Arizona has been shut down.
DeleteFor the first time, law enforcement officials are sharing the latest, inside details in a case involving 30,000 customers, 132 countries and more than 230 websites.
Law enforcement officials from around the globe are calling it the most important child pornography bust in the history of the Internet.
Matthew Allen is Special Agent in Charge for Homeland Security Investigation and Immigration Customs Enforcement in Arizona.
He oversees any leads identified in Arizona by the international child pornography bust, otherwise known as Project Flicker.
- This also involves many of those in high security offices in the US government, click the link to read more.
“If the average American were to see it they would be completely outraged at the kind of victimization that goes on,” Allen said. “[It] resulted in more than 5,000 leads in the United States involving individuals who have subscribed or downloaded child pornography from websites.”
- Yeah, I'm sure they would, and a lot of them run hold positions in the US government!
Allen said the focus of Project Flicker wasn’t just to identify who was at the center of the child pornography ring.
“The focus of Flicker was kind of backward, looking at the people who subscribed to the child pornography websites,” he said.
Among those identified as customers were 10,000 Americans. Individuals who subscribed were given access to images and videos of sexually exploited boys and girls, some possibly as young as three-years old.
“[Their ages] spanned from infancy all the way to adulthood,” Allen said.
Now, a Scripps Howard News Service investigation has uncovered new details involved in these cases, such as who was buying the sexually explicit material. Doctors, police officers, sheriff’s deputies, attorneys, church preachers and school teachers were just some of the customer’s professions identified as buying child pornography.
As the result of a lead from Project Flicker, one Valley school teacher has been accused of purchasing child pornography.
[name withheld], 30, was a fifth-grade teacher at Sun Canyon Elementary in west Phoenix until his arrest in May for allegedly possessing child pornography.
Parents in the west Phoenix neighborhood spoke with ABC15 in May when [name withheld] was arrested.
"I'm shocked this is my school down the street,” one parent told ABC15.
[name withheld] has not been convicted of any crime, and is currently awaiting trail.
While the focus of Project Flicker is to stop the spread of child pornography, Allen says protecting its victims is just as important.
“In the end, our true goal is to identify the victims and make sure they become whole again,” Allen said.
Arizona, the child sex ring capital of the world
DeleteMCSO drug, prostitution sting nets 111 arrests
DeletePHOENIX (CBS5) -
More than 100 arrests were made by Maricopa County sheriff's deputies during a two-week long undercover drug and prostitution sting.
Day after day, men lined up outside local hotel rooms waiting for their chance to have sex with underage girls, who they believed to be about 16 years old, MCSO said.
"These are husbands and fathers, many of whom came on their lunch hour, or came in their company vans," said Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
"One man told the officers he wanted to have sex with two girls and dropped by to do that on his way to his own daughter's 16th birthday party," Arpaio said.
The crackdown began on Dec. 2.
Two female Tempe police detectives posed as underage teen girls when talking on the telephone with suspects who responded to an online ad placed on Back Page.
Within only minutes of placing the ads, dozens of calls immediately came in, Arpaio said.
Each caller was told by the female detectives posing as prostitutes that they were underage and willing to perform various sexual acts.
The men came to the agreed location, the female detectives posing as underage prostitutes reiterated their ages as 16, a verbal contract for sex was stated, money was displayed and the arrests then followed, the sheriff said.
"Some of those we arrested were so anxious to engage in sex with a minor that detectives literally witnessed them lining up in the parking lot," Arpaio said.
The spokesman said there were 30 arrests for soliciting a minor for prostitution and 21 drug arrests during "Operation Vice Grip" that netted 111 arrests overall.
Deputies also seized 32 pounds of methamphetamine, 2 kilos of cocaine and 487 pounds of marijuana.
Arpaio said one of those arrested was a high school chemistry teacher who taught at Betty H. Fairfax High School in Laveen. Jerry Marfe, 54, was arrested Dec. 6 and resigned his teaching position Dec. 11.
The Phoenix Union High School District issued statement said it was notified of Marfe's arrest Dec. 7 and immediately placed him on emergency leave. The district said he resigned four days later.
Marfe was a teacher in the district for 27 years, teaching at Alhambra, Cesar Chavez and Betty H. Fairfax high schools, according to the district's statement.
The district said staff, student and parents were notified last week of an arrest and resignation at the school without elaborating because of the MCSO's ongoing investigation.
The district was "shocked by the news of (Marfe's) arrest," the statement concluded.
A level-two sex offender currently on probation, Raymond John Cordero was arrested as well as another man, John David Wythe, 48, who had served 10 years in prison for child molestation, the sheriff's office said.
Solicitation of a minor for purposes of prostitution is a class two felony that carries a penalty of a minimum of seven years in prison if convicted.
"Spengler's Laws": "When a nation is reduced to selling its women, it's lost."
DeleteProstitution law in Phoenix
DeleteFebruary 28, 2011 | Prostitution laws
Phoenix, the capital of Arizona, is not only the largest city in the state, but it is also the largest capital city in the United States. With nearly 1.5 million residents, Phoenix’s metropolitan area is known as the “Valley of the Sun”. The county seat of Maricopa County, the area has been known in past years to have higher than average crime rates, along with more prostitution arrests than any other Arizona county.
Crackdowns have included several sting arrests of prostitution rings involving participants from several states. In 2008, a ring was destroyed. It was determined that more and more prostitution is conducted through websites advertising escorts. Law enforcement officials have learned that some prostitution profits in Phoenix go directly to support drug and smuggling operations.
Modern prostitution law in Phoenix
The city laws of Phoenix specify that prostitution is a misdemeanor (just like determined by Arizona state laws on prostitution). Offenders arrested for the first time may serve 15 days in jail. Second offenses receive sentences of 30 days in jail, while offenders arrested for a third time spend 60 days in jail. Prostitutes arrested for a fourth offense may be convicted of a felony and spend up to 18 months in prison.
Penalties are more serious for pimps and brothel owners. Offenders convicted of these crimes may serve up to 18 months in prison and pay a fine up to $150,000. Pimping and brothel ownership are considered felony convictions.
More serious consideration is being taken to address the increasing problem of kidnapping occurrences in Phoenix and other parts of Arizona. It is presumed that a portion of these kidnappings result in human trafficking and prostitution.
"Spengler's Laws": "When a nation is reduced to selling its women, it's lost."
Who KNEW AZ was so much fun….
DeleteFormer Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that the expansion of state laws allowing gay marriage could lead to people marrying horses.
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/03/15/20100315hayworth-gay-marriage-horse-politico.html#ixzz34XIxEWXI
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ReplyDeleteNothing political about it. Hillary has simply 'evolved'.
Many politicians are evolving these days.
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I'm going to love it when twenty years from now the tabloids show that Michelle Obama has evolved into a 400 lb porker.
DeleteBut not ole quirk ;)
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DeleteNot in this lifetime, son.
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DeleteActually, face it Hillary is a big woman, not fat, just big; and for a large women she is in my opinion rather attractive.
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Hallmark's first Father's Day card for two daddies. And they're interracial yet. The Bible Belt is going to come unbuckled.
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Well it is Fathers' Day.
DeleteCan Raul Labrador capitalize on grassroots anti-establishment sentiment in GOP?
ReplyDeletePOSTED AT 10:31 AM ON JUNE 13, 2014 BY NOAH ROTHMAN
Hot Air
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) looks to have the votes for a bid to replace Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) as Republican House Majority Leader all sewn up. Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), once McCarthy’s chief rival for the post, has already bowed out. But, as many commentators have already noted, McCarthy’s ascension to leadership in the House would be the ultimate expression by establishment Republicans that they do not understand the moment or the anxieties of average GOP voters.
HotAir’s Ed Morrissey noted on Friday that astute right-leaning political analysts like Philip Klein and Byron York have observed that the House GOP seems to have not internalized what Cantor’s primary loss means for the party.
“Cantor became part of the institutions rather than someone who could represent his district’s interests in contrast to them,” Morrissey wrote. “Cantor missed the populist swing in his district, and the House GOP seems to be missing it in general.”
A rather unflattering piece in Politico published on Thursday details how well-connected McCarthy is. And while that Beltway insider status makes for an effective Majority Leader – indeed, it is what made Cantor effective in that position – it also demonstrates why he is not the man for this populist moment.
Politico promoted this piece with one particularly devastating tweet:
Enter Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID). The sophomore Republican representative, first elected in the 2010 tea party wave, began to float the notion on Thursday that he might step up and incur the wrath of House leadership by making a bid for Majority Leader.
Labrador speaks to both conservative and libertarian wings of the party. He is conservative on social issues and sufficiently populist on budgetary matters (he supported a problematic but popular balanced budget amendment to the Constitution, for example). While Labrador, as a former member of the “Group of Eight,” is pro-immigration reform, he is not rigidly so. After Cantor’s loss, he told reporters that even minor reforms to the country’s immigration system will not pass this year.
Moreover, he counters a media narrative about the Republican Party which McCarthy merely advances. A Puerto Rican by birth, Labrador speaks with a mild accent. An unfortunately prolific talking point about the GOP’s unfriendliness toward minorities, furthered by GOP primary voters jettisoning their only Jewish member in Congress, would be blunted by Labrador’s ascension to Majority Leader.
It is somewhat vexing that leadership votes in the body of government most responsive to the will of the people are not at all responsive to public sentiment. Labrador may not be able to overcome the House GOP’s unwillingness to comprehend the depth of apprehension Republican voters have toward Washington elites. If, however, Labrador can create a groundswell in his favor, that calculation might change.
The prospect of losing elections usually has a sobering effect on the political class. Many in Washington appear to have convinced themselves that Cantor’s defenestration was a fluke. Even if Labrador is unsuccessful in a potential bid for House leadership, the scare he would put into otherwise unresponsive GOP leaders would go a long way toward driving the lessons of Cantor’s loss home.
ReplyDeleteComical, that a freshman Congressman would even consider making a bid for the leadership of the House Republicans.
Ground swell? The fellow comes from one of the most Socialist, Federally controlled States in the country.
Until he advocates for PRIVATIZATION of the Federal lands in Idaho, he will be considered a fraud. A man of smoke and mirrors.
Clive Bundy's case has set the stage for PRIVATIZATION, that has become the rallying point for the Tea Party now.
It's just freaks like you, rat, that want to sell the National Forests to the Super Rich. You'd end up with people like your bugaboo Lester Crown owning the place, and the Ted Turners and such.
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ReplyDeleteSportFri Jun 13, 02:29:00 AM EDT
Why didn't Bibi send the IDF to Iraq, to fill that vacuum, they're certainly capable?
You are a moron.
Hillary will let Iraq and Syria play themselves out. Then, she will evolve.
ReplyDeleteTo watch the Sunnis and Shias fight it out in syria/iraq and hopefully soon iran is a good thing.
DeleteArt of War.
Protecting Children for LiberalsFri Jun 13, 09:49:00 AM EDT
ReplyDeleteBoy oh boy, anonymous, that is because of all the wavering done by Israel on child prostitution issues.
Very similar to the Federal government of the United States and their "War on Drugs", which is a crime against individual liberty and freedom.
Israel has positioned itself in a similar legal morass, with regards to their "War Against Morality".
Age of child prostitutes in Israel dropping, report finds
Ah Rat/Jack/FarmerRob Israel slandering nonsense in the morning…. Why does he not provide a link to his website and slander Israel there?
The is no slander, no words were spoken.
DeleteThere are quotes from allen and Haaretz
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.542420
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DeleteThe thread is about sexual morality, politicians and their 'Growth".
DeleteHayworth had left AZ last I heard. Had moved to California, maybe he came back.
Keeps losing broadcasting jobs, because he speaks out his ass, with no connection to realities.
While Leslie Moonves keeps his job, and is expanding his reach across multiple media platforms.
DeleteYou want to quote political losers, while ignoring the power players in the society.
Comical.
Rat posted this link:
Deletehttp://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.542420
"Neither government agencies nor welfare organizations have accurate information regarding the scope of youth prostitution in Israel according to a report on prostitution involving minors, submitted recently to the Knesset"
Read that again….
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.542420
"Neither government agencies nor welfare organizations have accurate information regarding the scope of youth prostitution in Israel according to a report on prostitution involving minors, submitted recently to the Knesset"
LOL….
Another attempt, by the "O", to display of the Israeli government as inept and incompetent.
DeleteSuch anti-Israeli propaganda.
He should be ashamed, to tell us that after years of investigation, the Knesset still does not know what is happening, in Israel
Just posted YOUR link….
DeleteLOL
How's that probation going?
Did they take all your guns?
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ReplyDeleteMrs Clinton is guided in her growth by CBS, and the man who paid her $8 million dollars.
DeleteJune 7th, 2012 - CBS President and CEO Les Moonves was at President Obama‘s LGBT fundraiser in Los Angeles on Wednesday, and while there, he made offered up his thoughts on today’s media. Partisanship in journalism is just a fact of life, he said.
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Obama, “has shown great leadership” on the issue of gay marriage.
..., Moonves said, “ultimately journalism has changed … partisanship is very much a part of journalism now.”
Mrs Clinton's positioning, it just follows the money.
Moonves is a liberal, is a media activist, propagandist in the Goebbels tradition
“allenThu Jun 12, 10:50:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeletePutin's greatest risk in the Ukrainian adventure was a drop in the price of oil and gas, fueled by American dumping and a reduction in EU demand. Putin is probably feeling pretty flush right now. It does not matter to him who wins, he just needs a few years to diversify the Russian economy as Russia continues to export petroleum products.”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101752227
Iraq violence slingshots Brent, WTI to highest levels of 2014
“The surge in crude helped yank major U.S. stocks sharply lower. Brent climbed by nearly $3 to over $113 a barrel for the first time in 2014, and its highest since September 10. U.S. crude soared by $2.13 to settle at $106.53 a barrel, its highest since mid-September 2013.
Natural gas prices have risen even more dramatically than oil in the wake of the violence, up 23 cents per mmBtu to $4.74, a hike of 5.19 percent.”
Last week, Mr. Putin openly mocked Mrs. Clinton. With that in mind, does Mrs. Clinton’s opinion on any political topic really matter? Mr. Putin has never spoken ill of Chancellor Merkel, by the way. The dichotomy is striking.
Best Sellers at Amazon
ReplyDelete2) 10-Day Green Smoothie Cleanse
3) Hard Choices (Is this about sex toys, or what?)
Number 2 there is by Quirk.
DeleteIt offers you 10 pre mixed smoothies containing a laxative solution you just mix with water and a little ice if you like, drink at your leisure, with the result that you shit your guts out and have 'cleansed' your intestines, all for the remarkably low low price of only $99.99.
An offer no one can refuse, it's the 'new in thing' sweeping the nation.
As long as Mrs Clinton has Leslie on her side, he is of Ukrainian descent ...
ReplyDeleteThe LA Jewish Journal shared the family connection in 1998, when Moonves was feted at an American Jewish Committee dinner:
[Moonves] also recalled a dinner with his granduncle in Israel 28 years ago as a defining moment in his life "that will stay with me always" — particularly noteworthy since his granduncle happened to be first Prime Minister of Israel David Ben-Gurion.
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Later I asked Moonves, “Whence the name?” He replied, “It’s Jewish, from the Ukraine.”
Read more: http://www.jta.org/2011/10/06/the-archive-blog/all-in-the-family-les-moonves-is-grandnephew-of-ben-gurion#ixzz34XRBi6nG
Read more: http://www.jta.org/2011/10/06/the-archive-blog/all-in-the-family-les-moonves-is-grandnephew-of-ben-gurion#ixzz34XQdUamS
Moonves said, “ultimately journalism has changed … partisanship is very much a part of journalism now.”
DeleteNow whether Leslie gets that view from his Socialist background, the influence of David Ben-Gurion, or from his Ukrainian heritage, who is to say. But there is no denying he is operating in the tradition of Goebbels.
DeleteSo Jack Hawkins is calling an American Jew a Nazi.
DeleteNice...
Manipulating the news for partisan political purposes.
DeleteAnother brick in the wall.
FOX News and the Saudi, CBS and the influences of David Ben-Gurion.Which as Leslie Moonves said ..
..."that will stay with me always"
$8 million into the Clinton account ...
Who needs cattle futures, when you've got Leslie Moonves?
No,not a NAZI, Moonves is being called a propagandist, in the Goebbels tradition.
DeleteNot to be conflated with the ideology that Goebbels was promoting, other than Goebbels was a Socialist, as is Bob, as is Moonves.
In both Bob's and Moonves's instances their Nationalism does not compare to Goebbels, but their Socialism does.
wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, call the jew a nazi then take it back…
Deletewiggle wiggle wiggle...
When the other guy might be able to shoot back with lethality, the usual warmongers hesitate…good idea…
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/13/u-s-aircraft-could-strike-iraq-tomorrow.html
U.S. Aircraft Could Strike Iraq Tomorrow
“Part of the hesitance for the senators to advocate the American military jump into the fray may have been the dramatic details of their classified briefing, which involved descriptions of the vehicles and weaponry that ISIS is bringing back to Syria and the collapse of the Iraqi Army’s resolve.
“That was a surprise to everybody, to have four major divisions fold as quickly as they did, without even a fight, some of them” Sen. Joe Manchin, a Democrat, said... That’s a concern, and why we weren’t more apprised of that, or had more knowledge of that.”
An indication of the corruption of the Iraqi society that the US exploited, that now the Saudi are exploiting.
DeleteAnyone that is surprised by the extent of the corruption within the Iraqi military, simply has not studied the US involvement in Iraq.
Deuce led with: What does Hillary Clinton really think about Iraq? - BBC interview
ReplyDeletethe wavering done by Israel on child prostitution issues
Israel has positioned itself in a similar legal morass, with regards to their "War Against Morality".
Age of child prostitutes in Israel dropping, report finds
Knesset study cites cases of 11-year-olds used for commercial sex
Moonves is a liberal, is a media activist, propagandist in the Goebbels tradition
The LA Jewish Journal shared the family connection in 1998, when Moonves was feted at an American Jewish Committee dinner:
particularly noteworthy since his granduncle happened to be first Prime Minister of Israel David Ben-Gurion.
“Whence the name?” He replied, “It’s Jewish, from the Ukraine.”
But there is no denying he (Moonves) is operating in the tradition of Goebbels.
This has what to do with Deuce’s topic, Lieben Sau?
Just goes to show rat's a one trick pony.
Deleterat, farmer rob, jack, captain nemo, sport... so many online names! It's funny when he argues with himself, convinces himself of the superior argument then congratulates himself of being such a studied opponent...
DeleteYep pure entertainment. However I guess we should not get pleasure watching the mentally ill talk to themselves and all the voices they hear.... But it's hard to avoid watching, pointing and laughing...
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-former-un-peace-envoy-to-syria-lakhdar-brahimi-a-974036.html
ReplyDeleteInterview with UN Peace Envoy Brahimi: 'Syria Will Become Another Somalia'
Much of Iraq may become another Somalia, but Hillary hesitates.
It has to do with Hilary, her backers and financiers, the propaganda techniques used to promote the "Sexual Awakening" propagated by liberals and Socialists across the world. Moonves, being the tie to both the Ukraine and Socialism, the liberal expediency of the "Sexual Awakening" so beloved in Israel and by the Israeli. Exemplified by the legality of prostitution and the promotion of "Gay Tourism", there in Israel.
ReplyDeleteMoonves, the man that paid $8 million dollars to Mrs Clinton ties all the loose ends together.
Leslie Moonves is the tie that binds.
Escape your tunnel vision and look at the "Big Picture", allen.
“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” - Joseph Goebbels
Moonves said, “ultimately journalism has changed … partisanship is very much a part of journalism now.”
The more things "Change" the more they stay the same.
Sport, who or whatever he or she is, is insane.
DeleteReally….
Mel Gibson, tin foil hat, black helicopters insane.
To read the conspiracy theories that spew from his/her/it's mind tells us plenty.
INSANE
Said the man who admitted to being in an actual Zionist terrorist organization.
DeleteSorry Fake Lesbian, the JDL comment you are referring stated that I was a member of the POLITICAL wing.
DeleteIf it's good enough for the IRA to have a political wing, for America to FUND Hamas?
Then it's good enough for me...
BTW how's your fake cancer doing?
Ms T, did you not state that if you EVER showed back up here it would be ME? Since you were GONE forever?
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ReplyDeleteFollow the money and the motives for the changes in Mrs Clinton's position of "Gay Marriage" become clear as crystal.
Mr Moonves provide $8 million reasons to 'grow'.
You obviously missed it when first said: There will be no conversations between us on any matter Jewish. Period!
DeleteSince you seem to have the accustomed green light to do as you please, knock yourself out. Feel free to characterize me anyway you like (and that goes for all others sharing this space). Why would I care?
I look at the Bar as a place where I can 1) write about what I know and 2) push buttons (there is method to the madness). While there will be, from time to time, some thoughtful feedback, I do not expect it. For that, I go elsewhere.
There is one caveat (exception, if you will): When Israel gets a government with the balls to write its own peace plan and shove it up Mr. Kerry’s ass, I will gratuitously crow. Included in said peace plan will be found the requirement that Ms. Livni shuffle off to Lebanon or Syria to a nunnery, where she will take a vow of perpetual silence.
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DeleteIf I'm still around, I will come back to see you crow that day. I'll come back to check it out the day I see pigs fly.
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That you continue to conflate Israel and Judaism, is your deal, not mine.
DeleteThat you continue to promote that lie, is a true piece of Goebbels style propaganda...
... and the responsibility for that's on you, not me.
Have a great day.
It's funny....
DeleteYou walk like an anti-semite, you talk like an anti-semite, you sound like an anti-semite, you spew like an anti-semite, you obsess like an anti-semite, you apply on standard to Jews and Israel and no standards to anyone else, I guess it's clear. You are an anti-semite.
Slice it, dice any way you wish. You are a sworn, public enemy of the Jews and Israel.
Rat aka Jack aka Sport aka FarmerRob aka whatever you want....
I do hope those that listen, listen...
Name calling and ad hominem arguments are a preferred tool for people who ran out of real arguments
Delete(or are unable to understand someone else's opinion in the first place).
It's so much easier to just attack another person instead of attacking his arguments
(especially if the other person is right.)
That is why the Israeli should hire adults, not students, for the social media propaganda campaign, but ...
Sure Sport...
DeleteLook under your bed, there is a Joo hiding there...
SportFri Jun 13, 03:54:00 PM EDT
DeleteName calling and ad hominem arguments are a preferred tool for people who ran out of real arguments
(or are unable to understand someone else's opinion in the first place).
It's so much easier to just attack another person instead of attacking his arguments
(especially if the other person is right.)
That is why the Israeli should hire adults, not students, for the social media propaganda campaign, but ...
Calling me a "student" is an ad hominem attack sparky...
But I guess all those years wedded to a horse has addled your brain... DO you pitch or receive?
Only the haters and their propagandists keep bringing up "Joos" and horses, the two are so connected.
DeleteOnly the fools place themselves in the story. No names are mentioned...
Stories happen in the mind of a reader, not among symbols printed on a page.” - ― Brandon Mull
It's often a bad sign when people defend themselves against charges which haven't been made.” - ― Christopher Hitchens
The Israeli contingent wants to disparage Mr Obama, disparage Mrs Clinton, which is all well and good.
DeleteBut they draw the line at discussion of who placed Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton into the positions they hold in our society. Those are not within the bounds of what they accept as prudent subjects.
We must ignore Lester Crown and Leslie Moonves, while savaging their figureheads.
Comical, they are, trying to control the message. While ignoring realiy, claiming that to discuss the background of the figureheads is "Racist", Anti-Semitic", while being unable to dispute the facts presented.
So they rush to the ad hominem, while claiming that it is used against them, when "they" are never mentioned, just described in the abstract, as pawns of nation states not individuals. Claiming that when Israeli propagandists are discussed, we ALL know that it is them..They place themselves in that position, because that is where they fit in the story.
But never do they deny the influence of the $8 million dollars paid to Mrs Clinton.
Never deny the Obama's are proxies for the Crown cabal, that they vacation at the Crown estate in Aspen or that Obama's career was financed by the Crowns. These facts cannot be denied, nor dismissed, because they are well documented and oh, so true.
And so they project their sex proclivities upon others.
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DeleteThey're called 'facts', and my role is to amplify those, not cheerlead.
And I don't care at all what you think of my motives.”
Re: dismissed
DeleteYes, they can be, and quite easily.
Projection of sexual proclivities?
DeleteYou're the guy who can't keep a woman and lives with horses..
Mrs. Clinton's preferred position on gay marriage is on top.
ReplyDeleteEven Queen Hillary's coronation would be called off if she came out against gay marriage.
ReplyDeleteCertainly her squack Huma Abedin would walk out on her ass if she did.
DeleteMoonves would dump her, and that'd be the "End of the Dream".
DeleteCan't have that now, can she?
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ReplyDeleteThis Street Performer
Years ago, one of the joys of walking or riding the undergrounds in Europe was the great talent to be found unexpectedly. It is my understanding that much of the riff-raff has been banned...what a loss...
Well this all solves the issues with Wretchard's site and crashing flash plug-ins, I'm using a Chromebox.
ReplyDeleteYou're my Chromebox, Honeysuckle..
DeleteI think of you as my Chromecast.
DeleteError in Form reading....
ReplyDeleteWasn't PSA from 1.85 or 185 ----> 1.67 or 167.
The 185 is the Code for prostate cancer.
Actual readings:
5.58 -----> 1.67
Dramatic improvement.
Goal ----> 0.50
Normal ----> 0.40
Sorry, rat........the Nature of Things hasn't called me yet.....I know you are disappointed.
Go back in 4 months.
Israel is "the" Jewish state according to Jewish tradition, occupation, UN Resolution, and force majeure. It is the place of refuge and the home of the world’s Jews. Judaism is the cultural expression of Jewish ethnicity, including Jewish religion, but also including ethics, law, philosophy, outlook, cuisine, music, literature, art, architecture, sexual mores, etc. Of the world’s six recognized cultures, no two have much in common other than superficially as the matter of expediency.
ReplyDeleteJudaism in Europe was nearly eliminated by the extermination of Jews and the wanton destruction of a vast volume of literature expressing the tenets of Judaism and its professors. The modern model of European culture, as that relates to Jews, was Martin Luther. Since Luther was certain that Jewish culture posed the single most lethal threat to Christianity, his murderously vituperative polemics addressed specifically the "Judaizing" of Western European institutions. Because Luther and the Pontiff both agreed that Slavs were heretics, the Reformers, including the Calvinists, and the Roman Church focused on the West. At any rate, Luther was the perfect voice for more than two-thousand years of European history because he brought all the hatred to the final solution, mass murder on an industrial scale.
In one of history’s strange quirks, while fighting to the death during the Thirty Years’ War, Protestants and Romans spared no effort in ferreting out Christians of questionable fidelity. Indeed, the Inquisition was significantly ramped up to find “the betrayers of the body and blood of Jesus” within the ranks of the Church; those who would dare challenge the efficacy of faith and the sacraments with precepts of Jewish law.
In another area of agreement, the Papacy of the Counter-Reformation and the Protestants equally despised and scorned the Talmud. Wagonloads of Talmuds were torched in both Paris and Geneva, to name but two places of auto-de-fes – one Roman Catholic, the other Protestant. Moreover, it seemed only logical to add any other Jewish literature that might come to hand. Consequently, mountains of literature were set aflame to prevent them from polluting both the minds of Jews (aggressively proselytized) and ignorant Christians unaware of Satan’s agents, the Jews and their abominable law, responsa, and commentary.
The Talmud was the target of such animosity, not because it was consistent, rational, captivatingly written, or well organized (The Talmud must be the most disorganized assemblage of essays et al ever passed down to posterity). However, the Talmud is infinitely adaptable and covers EVERYTHING known to human experience. The SCHOTTENSTEIN Edition contains 73 volumes and has a delivery weight of 330 pounds. The Talmud is the playbook that instructs, via finely argued distinctions, how a Jew is to do in his time and place what the Torah orders him to do.
Thus, a Jew is one belonging to a distinct and scientifically definable ethnicity, who is associated, willingly or not (See NAZI, Trotsky, Chomsky), with a unique culture which has been under attack in Europe since at least the 6th C. B.C.E. Although anti-Judaism, is an irrational evil, in every century there have been those eager to denigrate Jews and their culture, Judaism, under some more or less insane pretext, e.g. circumcision and atheism. Genocide has been the goal on countless occasions of Jew haters. This century’s excuse is the cause of the noble Palestinians – who knows what the cause will be next century, but you may be certain that some cretin will rise to the occasion. You also may be certain that Jews, Judaism, and Israel are not going away.
By the way, how are the progeny of Ishmael doing these days?
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DeleteLast I heard they are multiplying like rabbits.
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Last I heard they are hacking one another to death in ever increasing numbers...
DeleteWell said Allen, the only thing you didn't speak clear enough was our shared history of understanding who and what is the Jew hater and the forms it comes in.
Re: rabbits
DeleteIshmael's birthrates have fallen dramatically. Iran is the model of Islamic demographic colapse.
"How Civilizations Die" (2012), Goldman (aka Spengler)
Ignoramus
You may also be certain that not everyone cares much what the various brands of Canaanites do to each other, whether archaeologists could find pig skeletons in their ancient hill country settlements or not, as long as it doesn't involve a subsidy from the American taxpayer.
ReplyDeleteThis is an example why I consider you such a delightful, naughty and humorous numb skull, Miss T., and am glad you are back.
DeleteWhile Israel may be a Jewish State, it is still a State and not a religion.
ReplyDeleteJust as Saudi Arabia is an Islamic State, but it is not Islam.
Iraq is an Islamic State, but it is not Islam.
So while Israel may be a Jewish State, if one accepts the authenticity of the UN, it still does not mean that Israel is Judaism.
Sorry if the terms confuse you, allen, but perhaps English is a second language, for you?
It may not be, but your understanding of the English language has always been limited in regards the differences between a State, a Religion, Race and Ethnicity.
As for Ishmael, the Semite, you'll have to look in the mirror, and report back.
Of all that Allen has said there I would agree with it all except this:
ReplyDelete"Of the world’s six recognized cultures, no two have much in common other than superficially as the matter of expediency"
thinking as I do that down under there whether recognized or not lurks a common set of symbols, even in secularism and Marxism.
Joe Blow over there at the corner of 129th Street and Oak Park Avenue waiting for the light to change has more in common in his habits of thinking with these old symbols than he realizes.
This is just a quibble though in a very fine few paragraphs and I certainly don't insist on my opinion.
Of course they do, Bob. And it is the Judea-Christian dogma, the Commandment to create no graven image, that attempts to control the images put into the mind, the images that are the basis of communication and understanding of all men.
DeleteTo deny the importance and universality of the common imagery is to deny humanity..
:):):):)
DeleteYou nitwit.
Not at all, Bob
DeleteYour emotional state is, as Mat said, in turmoil.
You really should go on vacation.
Why is the God of Abraham afraid of his own image?
DeleteProbably for the same reason he's "jealous" that people might worship other gods that don't even exist.
DeleteThis Tea Party favorite just jumped in the race to replace Eric Cantor
ReplyDeleteBY SUSAN FERRECHIO | JUNE 13, 2014 | 2:36 PM
TOPICS: CONGRESS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PENNAVE RAUL LABRADOR ERIC CANTOR PETE SESSIONS
Photo - Rep. Raul Labrador just released a statement announcing his bid for House majority leader. (AP Photo)
Rep. Raul Labrador just released a statement announcing his bid for House majority leader. (AP...
Second-term Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho, plans to challenge Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., for the second most powerful House leadership position.
Labrador just released a statement announcing his bid for House majority leader, saying he believes Majority Leader Eric Cantor's primary loss on Tuesday shows, “Americans are looking for a change in the status quo.”
The leadership election is scheduled for June 19. Labrador made the announcement a half-day after it appeared McCarthy had the job locked up with no opponents.
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Now, a Labrador aide said, the contest is up in the air.
“The old math can be thrown out,” the aide said, without revealing how many lawmakers support Labrador. “It’s a whole new ballgame.”
Now serving as House majority whip, McCarthy has been cultivating close relationships with the rank and file for years and claimed by Thursday to have gathered the backing of more than half the conference.
His only opponent, House Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions, R-Texas, dropped out Thursday night as his became clear he stood little chance of winning.
But the inevitability of McCarthy succeeding Cantor angered the most conservative faction of the House.
They had tried to recruit House Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, but he declined to run.
Then they pursued Labrador.
“He got a lot of encouragement from other members,” a source close to the discussions told the Washington Examiner.
Many consider McCarthy to be a politically similar to Cantor, particularly when it comes to immigration reform.
Both Cantor and McCarthy, his protege, have expressed acceptance of legislation that would eventually legalize those who came here illegally, which some conservatives view as a form of amnesty.
Additionally, conservative talk show hosts who boosted Cantor's primary opponent Dave Brat to victory have been railing against McCarthy as another “pro-amnesty” leader.
Labrador, a former immigration lawyer, hardly fits the profile of what many conservatives want, which is someone to oppose any immigration reform that increases immigration, both legal and illegal, which they say will decrease employment and deflate wages.
He opposes immigration reform of any kind in 2014, but said he believes in eventually increasing legal immigration and creating a guest worker program after border security is increased.
But Labrador has said he opposes a pathway to citizenship. This could help him win favor with conservatives who might view him as an imperfect but far more attractive alternative to McCarthy.
And another article about Raul entering the contest -
Deletehttp://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/rep-raul-labrador-will-challenge-kevin-mccarthy-for-gop-leader-20140613
Labrador, a politico that promises to quit if there is a vote
DeleteLabrador, who worked as an immigration attorney before serving in Congress, was part of a bipartisan group in the House that was working on a reform bill. But Labrador famously quit the group because of a disagreement with its other members over whether to entitle undocumented immigrants to some form of healthcare.
Labrador has not been shy about criticizing House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, saying that he should step down if he allows a vote on an immigration bill this year.
What a farce.
Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID), who worked as an immigration attorney before entering politics, began the current session of Congress as one of the single most important players on the pro-reform side.
DeleteAfter President Obama’s dominant performance with Latino voters in 2012, Labrador worked with a bipartisan group of eight House members on a comprehensive immigration bill. Their efforts were essentially the House version of the Senate’s bipartisan “Gang of Eight”, which produced a sweeping immigration bill that passed last year.
Labrador’s popularity with the tea party lent irreplaceable credibility to the House’s immigration reform efforts in early 2013. He criticized Mitt Romney’s “self-deportation” policy and urged the party to take an active role in crafting a centrist alternative.
“It’s one of the stumbling blocks that I see for some Republicans. They’re moderate on every other issue, and they think this is the one issue where they have to become conservatives,” he told the Washington Post in February of last year. “I feel the reverse.”
Labrador favored some path to limited legal status for undocumented immigrants – a position most of his colleagues were reluctant to adopt – and said he was uncomfortable barring people from attaining citizenship through existing channels once they settled down.
“We shouldn’t create a second class group that could never become citizens, but we should also not give them a special pathway that nobody can follow,” Labrador said in March 2013 in a panel discussion with several similarly conservative lawmakers.
At one point, Labrador’s suggestion of legal status with no explicit ban on applying for green cards and eventual naturalization looked like a promising compromise.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/raul-labradors-complicated-history-immigration-reform
Flip floppin' away ....
Labrador favored some path to limited legal status for undocumented immigrants – a position most of his colleagues were reluctant to adopt – and said he was uncomfortable barring people from attaining citizenship through existing channels once they settled down.
Delete“We shouldn’t create a second class group that could never become citizens, but we should also not give them a special pathway that nobody can follow,”
(Newser) – NBC took flak back in 2011 when it hired Chelsea Clinton as a correspondent despite her lack of journalism experience. It might have taken more if people knew how much the network was paying her: $600,000 a year, reports Politico.
ReplyDeleteThe plum salary is gone, however, because Clinton has now switched to a month-to-contract given her pregnancy and the possibility that you-know-who will run for president.
The report has media tongues wagging, notes the Washington Post, with plenty of tweeted jokes about the Clintons being "dead broke" and general astonishment that she made more than former New York Times editor Jill Abramson. And what did NBC get for that salary? Not much, writes Joe Coscarelli at New York. Her "work included little of note, either journalistically or personally."
NBC, is owned by Comcast
Comcast said Tuesday that it will pay $16.7 billion to buy General Electric's remaining 49% stake in their NBCUniversal joint venture, a move that ends GE's long relationship with NBC and further underscores the cable operator's desire to expand content offerings.
Comcast, based in Philadelphia, will pay $11.4 billion in cash, and the rest will be funded with debt and the issuance of stock.
"Our decision to acquire GE's ownership is driven by our sense of optimism for the future prospects of NBCUniversal," says Comcast CEO Brian Roberts in a statement.
Comcast and CEO Brian Roberts ...
Comcast is sometimes described as a family business.[23] Brian L. Roberts, Chairman, President, and CEO of Comcast, is son of co-founder Ralph Roberts. Brian owns or controls just over 1% of all Comcast shares but all of the Class B supervoting shares, which gives him an "undilutable 33% voting power over the company"
Brian Roberts ...
Born Brian L. Roberts
June 28, 1959 (age 54)
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
Residence Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
Nationality United States
Ethnicity Jewish
Alma mater Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania
Occupation Chairman and CEO of Comcast
Net worth Increase US$1.2 billion (March 2014)[1]
Spouse(s) Aileen Kennedy Roberts
Children 3
Parents Suzanne Fleisher
Ralph J. Roberts
He was the recipient of the 2004 Humanitarian Award from the Simon Wiesenthal Center[7] and was the 2002 Walter Kaitz Foundation Honoree of the Year for his commitment to diversity in the cable industry. The Police Athletic League of Philadelphia honored Roberts with its 2002 award for his commitment to youth programs and community partnerships. In 2001, he was awarded the USC Shoah Foundation Institute's 2011 Ambassador for Humanity Award.[8] The Aileen K. and Brian L. Roberts Foundation Foundation was one of the largest contributors to the restoration of the Alfred W. Fleisher Memorial Synagogue at Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia named in the honor of his maternal grandfather.
Buying the Clintons, good to know who holds the purse strings, so we can keep that in mind, as time marches on.
Chelsea Clinton, received right around $2 million from NBC/Comcast, a "family owned" business ...
Deletedespite her lack of journalism experience
Wonder what it was that Brian L. Roberts was paying for?
It's none of your business, Dipshit.
DeleteJack HawkinsFri Jun 13, 09:34:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteLabrador, a politico that promises to quit if there is a vote
Labrador, who worked as an immigration attorney before serving in Congress, was part of a bipartisan group in the House that was working on a reform bill. But Labrador famously quit the group because of a disagreement with its other members over whether to entitle undocumented immigrants to some form of healthcare.
Labrador has not been shy about criticizing House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, saying that he should step down if he allows a vote on an immigration bill this year.
What a farce.
Jack HawkinsFri Jun 13, 09:37:00 PM EDT
Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID), who worked as an immigration attorney before entering politics, began the current session of Congress as one of the single most important players on the pro-reform side.
After President Obama’s dominant performance with Latino voters in 2012, Labrador worked with a bipartisan group of eight House members on a comprehensive immigration bill. Their efforts were essentially the House version of the Senate’s bipartisan “Gang of Eight”, which produced a sweeping immigration bill that passed last year.
Labrador’s popularity with the tea party lent irreplaceable credibility to the House’s immigration reform efforts in early 2013. He criticized Mitt Romney’s “self-deportation” policy and urged the party to take an active role in crafting a centrist alternative.
“It’s one of the stumbling blocks that I see for some Republicans. They’re moderate on every other issue, and they think this is the one issue where they have to become conservatives,” he told the Washington Post in February of last year. “I feel the reverse.”
Labrador favored some path to limited legal status for undocumented immigrants – a position most of his colleagues were reluctant to adopt – and said he was uncomfortable barring people from attaining citizenship through existing channels once they settled down.
“We shouldn’t create a second class group that could never become citizens, but we should also not give them a special pathway that nobody can follow,” Labrador said in March 2013 in a panel discussion with several similarly conservative lawmakers.
At one point, Labrador’s suggestion of legal status with no explicit ban on applying for green cards and eventual naturalization looked like a promising compromise.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/raul-labradors-complicated-history-immigration-reform
Flip floppin' away ....
Jack HawkinsFri Jun 13, 09:39:00 PM EDT
Labrador favored some path to limited legal status for undocumented immigrants – a position most of his colleagues were reluctant to adopt – and said he was uncomfortable barring people from attaining citizenship through existing channels once they settled down.
“We shouldn’t create a second class group that could never become citizens, but we should also not give them a special pathway that nobody can follow,”
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