Ministers in the cabinet of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused Mr Kerry of effectively endorsing "anti-Semitic" efforts to impose sanctions on the country
Palestinian Leader Seeks NATO Force in Future State
By JODI RUDORENFEB. 2, 2014
NY TIMES
RAMALLAH, West Bank — Six months into peace talks dominated by discussion about security, President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority has proposed to Secretary of State John Kerry that an American-led NATO force patrol a future Palestinian state indefinitely, with troops positioned throughout the territory, at all crossings, and within Jerusalem.
Mr. Abbas said in an interview with The New York Times at his headquarters here over the weekend that Israeli soldiers could remain in the West Bank for up to five years — not three, as he previously stated — and that Jewish settlements should be phased out of the new Palestinian state along a similar timetable. Palestine, he said, would not have its own army, only a police force, so the NATO mission would be responsible for preventing the weapons smuggling and terrorism that Israel fears.
“For a long time, and wherever they want, not only on the eastern borders, but also on the western borders, everywhere,” Mr. Abbas said of the imagined NATO mission. “The third party can stay. They can stay to reassure the Israelis, and to protect us.
“We will be demilitarized,” he added. “Do you think we have any illusion that we can have any security if the Israelis do not feel they have security?”
The interview, a rarity for the Palestinian leader with a Western news organization, was his most expansive discourse to date on security arrangements, and it underscored the significant gaps remaining between the two sides. Israel has insisted on a long-term military presence in the Jordan Valley and on controlling the timing and conditions for the withdrawal of its troops.
Mr. Abbas’s proposal comes at a sensitive stage of the American-brokered negotiations. Mr. Kerry is preparing to present a framework of core principles for a peace deal, including a security plan, a border roughly along the 1967 lines, Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state and Jerusalem as a shared capital.
The specificity of the framework, and how the Israeli and Palestinian leaders express reservations to it, will likely determine whether the talks continue past the April 29 expiration date. One possibility, according to several people engaged in the process, is to extend the negotiations through 2014, with Israel agreeing to freeze settlement construction in areas planned to become part of Palestine under the framework, and Mr. Abbas holding off joining the International Criminal Court and United Nations agencies — steps that Israel and the United States vigorously oppose.
“It’s not a sacred date,” Mr. Abbas said. “Suppose by the end of nine months we got something promising. Shall I stop? I will not stop. If, after nine months, we didn’t get anything, if there is nothing on the horizon, we will stop.”
But Mr. Abbas also distanced himself somewhat from Mr. Kerry’s framework, saying, “He has the right to do whatever he wants, and at the end we have the right to say whatever we want.” This echoed the statement last week by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel that “Israel does not have to agree with everything America presents.”
Mr. Netanyahu’s office refused to respond to Mr. Abbas’s comments. But the idea that Israel can rely only on its own military, not a third party, is a standard trope of the prime minister’s. He also says a fixed timetable is untenable, citing the volatility in the region. “Our attitude toward international forces is skeptical in the extreme,” said one senior Israeli official. “Timing can’t be artificial. It has to be based on performance, and we want to be able to judge what’s going on with performance.”
Jen Psaki, Mr. Kerry’s spokeswoman, said in an email that “there are many ideas being proposed from both the Israelis and the Palestinians, but it is premature to make any predictions about the final contents of a framework.” Others briefed on the negotiations said the secretary was trying to bridge the gap on security by pressing Mr. Abbas to extend his time frame, and by urging Israel to allow the United States, possibly with Jordanian involvement, to assess the conditions for withdrawal.
“The balance point has not been found yet,” said one Israeli security expert who has been consulted in the negotiations, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the secrecy surrounding them. “The U.S. understands the Israeli position, accepts that there should be long-term presence, but looks for ways to reconcile between Israeli security needs and Palestinian needs for sovereignty and dignity.”
Mr. Abbas, 78, was relaxed and confident, if not quite optimistic, during the interview, sprinkling his politics with bits of humor. It took place in an outer sitting room where the Palestinian president has met delegations of left-leaning American Jews and foreign dignitaries and where, he recalled, the former American peace envoy George J. Mitchell said of the Israelis before departing in 2011, “They foiled me.”
He sipped sweet tea and then strong coffee, twice using a small buzzer to summon an aide who brought a single cigarette. He spoke in English, occasionally leaning on two colleagues for translation. (It took a few minutes to decipher whether Mr. Mitchell had said “fooled,” “failed” or “foiled” — Mr. Abbas joked that all three applied.)
On recognition of Israel as a Jewish state, Mr. Abbas said, “This is out of the question,” noting that Jordan and Egypt were not asked to do so when they signed peace treaties with Israel. He presented a 28-page packet he has been distributing widely that included a 1948 letter signed by President Harry Truman in which “Jewish state” was crossed out and replaced by “State of Israel”; statements by Israel’s founding prime minister, David Ben-Gurion; and a paper on Edwin Montagu, a Jewish member of the British cabinet who opposed the 1917 Balfour Declaration supporting a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine.
Mr. Abbas said that he had been resisting pressure to join the United Nations agencies from the Palestinian street and leadership — including unanimous votes by the Palestine Liberation Organization’s executive committee and the central committee of his own Fatah Party — and that his staff had presented 63 applications ready for his signature.
“No, I don’t want, I want to take advantage of every minute now, maybe we can achieve something,” he said. “I don’t like to go to the courts. I don’t like courts. I want to solve my problems directly between the parties.” But he added, “If I don’t get my rights, now put your foot in my shoe — what should I do?”
He would not, he said, allow a third intifada, or uprising. “In my life, and if I have any more life in the future,” he said, “I will never return to the armed struggle.”
The NATO security proposal is not entirely new: Mr. Abbas said he had won support for the notion from former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and from President George W. Bush. He also said he presented the idea of an American-led force that included Jordanians to Mr. Netanyahu, at a meeting at the prime minister’s house a few years ago with then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. “I told him: ‘If you will not trust your allies, so whom do you trust? I am not bringing for you Turkey and Indonesia,’ ” Mr. Abbas recalled. “He said, ‘I trust my army only.’ ”
“We have to address, first of all, Mr. Netanyahu,” the president said. “Mr. Netanyahu is the key. If he does believe in peace, everything will be easy.”
>>>>Mr. Abbas said in an interview with The New York Times at his headquarters here over the weekend that Israeli soldiers could remain in the West Bank for up to five years — not three, as he previously stated — *****and that Jewish settlements should be phased out of the new Palestinian state***** along a similar timetable.<<<<
ReplyDelete>>>>On recognition of Israel as a Jewish state, Mr. Abbas said, “This is out of the question"....<<<<
Looks like the wish is Palestine for Palestinians, and Israel for Israelis and Palestinians to me.
And eventually the Mediterranean Sea for the Israelis, and eventually Israel for the Palestinians.
Since most everyone here is against American or NATO troops going anywhere, the idea of Americans and/or NATO getting into the West Bank and Israel ought to make us all extremely angry.
Focus on Nigeria, continued.....
ReplyDeleteJihad Watch
Nigeria: 53 murdered as armed Muslims enter church during service, lock doors, slit throats of those trying to escape
Robert Spencer Feb 2, 2014 at 5:11pm Muslim persecution of Christians, Nigeria 17 Comments
Francisdovecrow
“When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks…” — Qur’an 47:4
An update on this story. “Nigeria: death toll rises in Boko Haram attacks,” by Carey Lodge for Christian Today, February 1 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
The number of fatalities resulting from attacks in Nigeria on 26 January has risen to at least 138.
Islamist terror group Boko Haram, officially labelled a ‘Foreign Terrorist Organisation’ by the US government in November last year, is suspected to have coordinated the violence.
‘Boko Haram’ translates as ‘Western education is sacrilege’. The group has ties to Al-Qaeda and is responsible for over 2,000 deaths in Nigeria since 2009. Its leadership has declared it aims to cleanse the country of Christians, eradicate Nigerian democracy and replace it with an Islamic state guided by Sharia law.
On Sunday, armed militants attacked a church in Adamawa State in the north-east of the country. They locked the doors before the end of the service and shot at the congregation, slitting the throats of those who tried to escape. They also detonated bombs before going on a four hour rampage, burning houses and taking hostages from the village.
Initial reports recorded 22 casualties. However, that number has now risen to 53, with dozens more wounded.
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Ministers in the cabinet of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused Mr Kerry of effectively endorsing "anti-Semitic" efforts to impose sanctions on the country
ReplyDeleteWhy, they would fit right in with the Conga Line here.
"Jewish settlements should be phased out of the new Palestinian state" Abbas
DeleteWhat's up with this, Miss T?
Sounds like ethnic cleansing to me.
How does it ring in your ears?
Would you like to be "phased out"?
DeleteSound fine if ever arab settlement within Israel held the same fate. But it won't.
DeleteIsrael is a democracy and a Jewish State. Thus it's population is not just Jewish.
The proposed Gestapo state of Palestine is to be ethnically pure... and Jewish cleansed
Miss T's Christians are being "phased out" of Bethlehem.
DeleteDown Nigeria way, Boko Haram intends to "phase out" fully 50% of the population, around 70-80 million of her Christian souls.
Nigeria is one of those places that ought to be divided up, like Miss T, Joe Biden and I recommended concerning Iraq.
DeleteThat way no one is phased out, and life goes on.
Teresita RedingerMon Feb 03, 07:17:00 AM EST
DeleteWhy, they would fit right in with the Conga Line here.
Darlin', sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Kerry has overstayed his welcome. When he threatened to go directly to the Jewish people without consultation, he went a bridge too far. Go home Kerry! Talk to Americans. That's right, you did, and lost an election.
WiO wrote:
Delete"The proposed Gestapo state of Palestine is to be ethnically pure... and Jewish cleansed"
Tell me, WiO, or allen for that matter, do you really think it would be a good idea if the settlements were simply to become part of the Palestinian state?
ZIONISM AND THE FUTURE OF PALESTINE
DeleteThe Fallacies and Dangers of Political Zionism
By Morris Jastrow, Jr., Ph.D., L.L.D.
New York, The Macmillan Company
1919
AshMon Feb 03, 09:48:00 AM EST
do you really think it would be a good idea if the settlements were simply to become part of the Palestinian state?
Why wouldn't assimilation work out, Ash? Your Palestinian brothers are all about the warm embrace of love. What could go wrong?
MEANWHILE
Many of the original Zionists hoped for an integrated society. Your Muslim brothers, however, went on a tear, raping, murdering, burning, etc. and put an end to that dream. The book below predated that by several years. The author was ebulliently optimistic about the new world order ushered in by the outcome of WWI. Dr. Jastrow did not believe that the vast majority of Jews in Europe needed a Zionist state; they were free and making assimilative progress against anti-Semitism in Germany, Austria, Russia (he believed the Russian revolution was going to turn out peachy) Poland, Romania etc. You will be orgasmic after reading him. Enjoy!
ZIONISM AND THE FUTURE OF PALESTINE
The Fallacies and Dangers of Political Zionism
By Morris Jastrow, Jr., Ph.D., L.L.D.
New York, The Macmillan Company
1919
Zionism and the future of Palestine; The fallacies and dangers of political Zionism (1919)
AshMon Feb 03, 09:48:00 AM EST
DeleteWiO wrote:
"The proposed Gestapo state of Palestine is to be ethnically pure... and Jewish cleansed"
Tell me, WiO, or allen for that matter, do you really think it would be a good idea if the settlements were simply to become part of the Palestinian state?
Sure, there would be no problem within 24 hours… All the jews would be dead.
Taliban Is Going Broke In Afghanistan
ReplyDeletehttps://www.vocativ.com/02-2014/taliban-goes-broke/
If saying "the Jewish State" is a problem for Abbas, why? Because it means that the Jews will always be predominate, as are the Germans in their state and the Turks in theirs. All others come by invitation only. I would have said the US by way of example but the US no longer has borders or an American ethic.
ReplyDeleteNATO? You have got to be kidding. NATO has been shuffling around Afghanistan for how many years now? Mainly, NATO troops try to stay close to base rather than risk confrontation.
Who’s been no duty protecting Israel at the Lebanese border as Hezbollah openly brings in thousands of illegal arms to use against Israel when they are again ready to confront the Zionist entity. Does anyone remember how Dr. Rice and Sarkozy promised "peace in our time" in 2006, when Israel was strong-armed into giving up its offensive to drive Hezbollah out?
Who will guard Gaza to keep them launching thousands of "bottle rockets" against the Zionist entity? Right. Who will extract from Hamas a promise it has repeatedly rejected: peace with the Zionist entity. Any peace plan must include Gaza since it is legally a rebellious province of the PA. How about sending in some of those razzle-dazzle NATO troops into Gaza? Right. Hamas would eat their sissy lunches.
Give me a break. Israel must take care of its own business. If Mr. Kerry has free time, he can have his scrawny rear end driven into Syria and do the Lord's work there. Fat chance of that. Oh, and while evangelizing the Muslims, he can take a crack at Lebanon. No, Mr. Kerry will do none of those things for fear of life and limb. Instead, he will abuse Israel with threats of intifada, boycott, and going to the Israeli electorate (without consultation or so much as a "Please").
Go home Kerry! If Israel wants you, Netanyahu has your number. And please, Mr. Kerry, take your aid and shove it up your nose. That would be a blessing to Israel. Getting off the American dole has got to be THE priority for Israel. Next, Israel should sell to the Chinese and Indians all the technology they have been requesting.
“It’s not a sacred date,” Mr. Abbas said. “Suppose by the end of nine months we got something promising. Shall I stop? I will not stop. If, after nine months, we didn’t get anything, if there is nothing on the horizon, we will stop.”
But Mr. Abbas also DISTANCED himself somewhat from Mr. Kerry’s framework, saying, “He has the right to do whatever he wants, and at the end we have the right to say whatever we want.” This echoed the statement last week by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel that “Israel does not have to agree with everything America presents.”
Go home Kerry!
If NATO and USA would stick around Afghanistan, with more force too, we'd probably prevail.
ReplyDeleteThink about the women, before you reject the idea outright.
How long?
DeleteHow long have we been in Europe? South Korea?
In other words, quite a while.
Farmer BobMon Feb 03, 08:19:00 AM EST
DeleteIf NATO and USA would stick around Afghanistan, with more force too, we'd probably prevail.
Think about the women, before you reject the idea outright.
With respect for your sympathy, the only way NATO could affect the rights of women in Afghanistan (or anywhere else in the Muslim world) would be their wholesale evacuation from the country to Peoria. As long as there are goats and little boys left behind, Afghani "men" will get along just fine.
And what is this all about? The miserable little creatin is going to walk away clean.
Conn. Prosecutor: Woody Allen Can’t Be Prosecuted
from the news letter Daily Alert -
ReplyDelete•Jordanians, Palestinians Voice Rejection of Kerry's Peace Plans - Muath Freij
Jordanians and Palestinians on Saturday voiced their rejection of U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's proposed "framework" for a final peace deal between Palestine and Israel. Zaki Bani Rsheid, deputy leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, said Kerry has a dangerous political agenda that will harm the Palestinian cause. Ziad Masri noted that Palestinians are fully aware of the conspiracy against them, while Saeed Jameel said there should be no compromises on the right of return. (Jordan Times)
•Ya'alon: Let's Not Delude Ourselves Regarding Abbas' Intentions
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not a dispute over territory, but over the Palestinian refusal to accept Israel as a Jewish state and to declare an end to the conflict, Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon told the Munich Security Conference in Germany on Sunday. "The core of the conflict is not territory which was liberated or occupied or taken in '67," he said. "The conflict started early on since the dawn of Zionism, and unfortunately I don't see a leadership on the Palestinian side that is ready to say that if we reach a compromise on territory it would be the end of claims."
Although he favored negotiations with the Palestinians, he was not ready to discuss an Israeli pullback from "an inch" of the West Bank as long as the government of Mahmoud Abbas was not willing to recognize Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people. "I support the negotiations, I support any political engagement, but we should tell the truth to ourselves and not delude ourselves and deceive ourselves regarding President Mahmoud Abbas' intentions," Ya'alon said.
When everyone is telling Mr. Kerry to go home, can they all be wrong?
DeleteGood catch, Bob! Or should I say, "Beavis" or "Butthead"? :-D)))
I prefer Beavis, rather than Butthead, and thank you for asking.
Delete:)
I've never been called Beavis before, Butthead many times, many of them here.
DeleteI like the new tone and ring to it.
Anonobob: Sounds like ethnic cleansing to me. How does it ring in your ears?
ReplyDeleteI don't care what any of those assholes do over in the Middle-east, as long as I'm not funding it.
A slippery non answer.
DeleteIs the Abbas proposal ethnic cleansing, or not.
And, why not add, if not, why not?
Beavis
Of course it isn't - it realizes the fact that those living in the settlements do not wish to live under Palestinian rule. Do you think those Jewish settlers should be cut loose from Israel and be absorbed into the Palestinian state?
DeleteYou got a potatoe for brains.
DeleteThe point is, potatoe brain, they won't have a choice.
DeleteMost obviously would not want to live under Palestinian rule, unlike in Israel where many arabs are quite happy living under Israeli rule.
The point is there is no choice.
Your a choice guy, you ought to be able to understand this simple concept.
That response typifies the intellectual level of the bulk of your arguments and highlights why I don't bother reading, much less entertaining, your arguments.
DeleteTeresita RedingerMon Feb 03, 09:12:00 AM EST
DeleteI don't care what any of those assholes do over in the Middle-east, as long as I'm not funding it.
Trust me Ms T, you aint funding shit….
What do you make 60-70k a year? I bet MAYBE 15 cents of your taxes has paid for anything in Israel in the last 30 years of your working life. And the fact is? your pay is PAID by us the taxpayer. Your money aint your money, it's ours that we pay you.
Now if you would like, I'd gladly mail you your 15 cents to shut you up… tell me where to mail please.
What a C---!
That stands for crazy…
Dear Mr. Kerry,
ReplyDeleteUpon receipt, please immediatelyhalt all aid to the Jewish State of Israel. If you wish to discuss the matter, come to Jerusalem.
Furthermore, for decades Israel has granted the US prepositioning rights of military equipment on Israeli soil. That courtesy ends on 1 March 2014. On that date, Israel will expect the US to begin removing its property from Israel. Israel will expect the work to be complete in three (3) months. Thereafter, for an additional three (3) months, Israel will expect the payment of tolls for the use of Israeli roads. The toll fees are negotiable, but generally they will reflect the current fees charged by your ally Pakistan: $1,000 USD per truck, per day. Should Israel provide fuel, the cost per gallon will be at the current Afghani-Pakistani rate of $500.00 per gallon. Under no condition may Israeli roads or air space be used to transport US equipment to any other than the nearest Israeli port. Any equipment remaining in Israel after the six (6) month time period will become the property of the Jewish State of Israel. Time is the essence of this order.
The Jewish State of Israel will expect all US companies now working the gas and oil fields in Israeli territorial waters to cease all operations forthwith. All future contracts for such work will be let to Chinese, Indian, German, and French concerns.
Henceforth, all contact by the US with the government of the Jewish State of Israel will be through the Jewish administrative agencies in the Capitol of Jerusalem. Tel Aviv shall be an annex only and inquiries to Tel Aviv offices will be forwarded to Jerusalem for action. Understand: the use of Tel Aviv will cause lengthy delays in processing and action; moreover, this administrative courtesy will end on 1 March 2015.
Goodbye, and thanks for the fish.
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DeleteI would love to see it, but alas, it is just a dream.
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PS:
DeleteDear Mr. Kerry:
All joint R&D projects of any sort whatsoever are hereby terminated. Any information acquired thereby now held by the Jewish State of Israel shall be considered proprietary and may be used in any manner thought most advantageous to the Jewish State of Israel. Coincidentally, all contracts and/or agreements appertaining thereto a now considered null and void. Of course, Israel will refund any and all residual funds and/or credits remaining from such R&D programs. Reciprocity by the US is fully expected.
While in the past, the Jewish State of Israel has benignly tolerated the presence of US intelligence gathering operatives (spying/espionage) within its borders and has occasionally quietly returned such operatives to the US when thought necessary; henceforth, the US should expect vigorous policing which may lead to arrest, interrogation, and pretrial incarceration. If warranted, convicted enemies of the Jewish State of Israel will face sentences including life imprisonment, as a nonpublic tribunal shall determine appropriate. As fair warning and by way of example, “belligerent” acts such as those exposed by Manning and Snowden shall fall within the criminal code. More will follow.
The Jewish State of Israel hereby dissociates itself from any and all organizations holding themselves out as lobbyists or spokespersons dedicated to advancing the interests of Israel on United States soil. What US citizens do or say of personal account lies outside the jurisdiction of the Jewish State of Israel. Israel will not be liable to any degree whatsoever for the actions of US citizens deemed hostile to the interests of the US. Israel will not originate or facilitate any fund raising activities to the benefit of Israel undertaken by US citizens.
The Jewish State of Israel is a nuclear power, able to deploy both tactical and strategic nuclear arms via air, land, and sea. Israel will continue to develop an increasingly lethal array of such weapons. While it is the hope of Israel that such weapons will never be used, the Jewish State of Israel solely retains to itself the determination of the circumstances whereby its arsenal will be used.
It is the policy of the Jewish State of Israel that any hostile act, originating outside Israel, against persons and property within the boundaries of Israel shall be viewed as having its origin in the government of the territory from which such hostile act was launched. Therefore, any such hostile act shall be considered an act of war and will be dealt with accordingly. If in the process of making war Israel occupies adjacent foreign territory, that territory shall become irrevocably the territory of the sovereign Jewish State of Israel by way of reparation. If in the process of war making, Israel should discover that civilian persons or property have been unlawfully used as obstacles to maneuverability, Israel will act in a manner that first guarantees the safety of its military assets and the safety of the citizens of Israel. Collateral damage, if any, shall be of secondary consideration. If and when Israel captures the war criminals responsible for the battlefield atrocities above referenced, said war criminals shall be summarily executed. In cases where doubt may exist, a military tribunal shall be the finder of fact.
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DeleteGosh. I hear a distinct silence from the peanut gallery.
Can we get a second here?
Bob?
Doug?
Beuller?
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Second.
DeleteMinute too.
Beavis
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DeleteYou once again confirm my opinion of you, Bobbo.
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Farmer BobMon Feb 03, 12:25:00 PM EST
DeleteSecond.
Minute too.
Beavis
:-)
Bob (aka Beavis)
Aren't you the least bit chastened? The Nanny is not amused.
:-D)))
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DeleteNonsense, the nanny is highly amused. I was merely looking for a headcount in support of the manifesto. We'll have to wait for Doug and WiO to chime in.
Face it, the last few paragraphs merely describe the current SOP. The first two thirds are perfectly acceptable to me. In fact, they would be welcome to me given that Israel and its lobby appear ungrateful for US assistance. I say let's end it and Israel can go its own way. Heck, it's not they haven't been right along any way.
Have WiO or Bob propose that over at AIPAC and try to drum up support for it.
I say good on you, Allen. Go for it.
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Goodbye, and thanks for the fish.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0-En51ZjXI
Please don't tell me
That you've changed
Don't wanna hear on how
You've lost your evil ways
The one who's changed this time is me
And I won't go back
To feeling helpless and deceived
Oh, no
You'll never hear me crying
You'll never see me trying
To love you once again
Your love is so past tense
Video of the recent downing by Iron Dome of a missile fired at Israel from Sinai towards Eilat -
ReplyDeletehttp://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/24410/Default.aspx?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=No-sidebar-news-1&utm_content=1116
Bingo
Egypt has it's hands full with jihadists in the sinai. Of course Hamas, the daughter of the Moslem Brotherhood is a major player in this terror.
DeleteWeapons liberated from Libya by Obama and company now have made their way to the Hamas and friends thru out the region. Thus the Egyptians suffered a helicopter shoot down last week...
Yep chaos.
I wonder if Obama could have predicted the arab's own backlash towards his support of the MB and Hamas?
I wonder if Gaza will be invaded by... Egypt? Again.
that tiny strip of land, gaza, was historically controlled by egypt. It's time to wall it off from Israel, cut all food, fuel and medical help and allow the people of gaza to join their brothers in egypt's embrace.
After all Egypt founded the PLO, created the myth of Arafat (the egyptian) as the leader of an "arab palestinian liberation" group.
Arafat, supported and funded by Egypt bombed the Israel water carrier in 1966, before jerusalem was liberated by israel, before the west bank was liberated and one settlement was built on the west bank...
1966...
In fact up until the early 50's the only Palestinians? Were Jews...
Until arafat stole the title.
With the help of the Egyptians...
But who needs history when we can make it up as we go... Islam is a religion of peace, The Temple never existed (abbas). Jews have no history in the region. Real Jews are dead and the zionists are frauds..
Yep.
Just make it up as we go.
But the truth hurts...
Israel doesn't create facts on the ground, it UNCOVERS them, every day...
And while the collective arab and islamic world self destructs? Israel will invent something else to benefit humanity.. Now "soda stream" may not win a nobel prize? It certainly, by it's self out shines the collective arab/islamic contributions to the betterment of human kind for the last 400 years....
Provocative Thread Headline that doesn't talk about what Kerry threatened....
ReplyDeleteIsraelis have seen how America threatened Israel with compliance otherwise "bad things will happen".
And they have...
What is the true story is what the USA doesn't require the Palestinians to live up to.
Israel released convicted murderers for the sake of peace?
Abbas honors them as national heroes.
I think Abbas is in the 10th year of his 4 year term. The Palestinians cannot sigh any agreement as over 1/2 of all Palestinians are not even on board with the program (ever hear of Hamas?)
Is Israel required to make peace treaties with multiple Palestinian groups?
What good is an agreement with the Palestinians if the Palestinians are not a stable government? What is the value?
What happens to the west bank if millions of palestinians are repatriated to the west bank with no resources to support them? Will they bring the radical jihadist agenda that they have lived by in the camps in syria & lebanon?
Why should Israel help create a 21st arab nation that will be unstable and committed to the genocide of the Jewish people?
Would the Palestinians put it to a vote?
I love how the idea of sanctions on Israel is "juicy" by some here, but the idea that sanctions on Iran are "disruptive"
ReplyDeleteI love how you and Allen misrepresent things, even outright lie, to bolster your propaganda.
DeleteMy friend Ash can't think.
DeleteIt's cause he's got potatoe brain.
DeleteBeavis
Ash, please explain?
DeleteI think my statement is right on target..
There are many sanctions on Iran and many believe they have been effective in moving Iran to the negotiating table. The objection of the sanctions you refer to above is an objection to additional sanctions put forward in the middle of negotiations. It is disingenuous to say that the objections to those additional sanctions is evidence of an objection to sanctions against Iran.
DeleteThe objection of the sanctions you refer to above is an objection to additional sanctions put forward in the middle of negotiations
Deletenow that is a lie. The additional sanctions that the Congress sought would NOT take effect unless Iran did not, by the end of talks, comply.
Your little lies are bothersome.
ah, now he pulls out the misdirection attempt. Have at it dude.
Deleteno misdirect. you lied. the current request for new sanctions are not to be imposed "in the middle of negotiations"
Deletethat is a lie.
period
it is, actually, beside the point and we can argue about whether the debated about sanctions would disrupt the POTUS ability to negotiate or not.
DeleteWhat was at issue is your contention that an objection to those sanctions means one objects to sanctions on Iran. It doesn't. It simply means that one objects to the implementation of conditional sanctions. There is that better?
Eliminating subsidies for both sides would be juicy.
ReplyDeleteMaking you earn a living in the private sector and not suck off the government tit would be juicy.
DeleteYair Netanyahu is “spitting on the grave of his grandfather and grandmother,” Dr. Hagai Ben-Artzi, brother of Sara Netanyahu, said Monday of his nephew’s relationship with a non-Jewish Norwegian woman.
ReplyDeleteNews that the prime minister’s son, who is 23, is dating Sandra Leikanger, 25, was first reported by the Norwegian daily Dagen. The tall, svelte blonde met the younger Netanyahu at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, where the two study.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg at the World Economic Forum in Davos last week that his son traveled with Leikanger in Norway over the summer, and that the two had been dating for months.
In an interview with ultra-Orthodox website Kikar HaShabbat, Ben-Artzi urged his nephew to cut ties with his new girlfriend, and warned him that should he choose to pursue the relationship, Ben-Artzi would personally see to it that he would not be allowed near his grandparents’ graves.
Oy vey.
wow this is news?
DeleteReligion will be the death of us all.
ReplyDeleteReligion would most certainly be the death of you if the muzz got hold of you, r2.
DeleteThat puppy Budweiser ad was great by the way.
The Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, animists, Native American shamen, all would let you live.
DeleteAre you fucking crazy? The asshole "Christins" have been trying to kill me, and mine, for years.
DeleteHow many US jobs were lost?
ReplyDeleteBerlin has often been criticized in recent years for selling weapons to questionable regimes. Now, the German government is backing a billion-euro deal for 100 patrol boats.
Ash, my good man, why would any Jew want to live in Palestine, knowing they would shot on sight?
ReplyDeleteYou see, Ash, there is no choice. This IS ethnic cleansing.
They only way they could live there would be dead.
Can you not see this simple point?
On The Other Hand, have you taken a count of the arabs living in Israel that are leaving Israel?
There are damned few.
I'll put this another way.....try to think of it this way, if you will.....where would you rather live, in the new wonderful Palestine, or Israel?
Try to think carefully, now.
Farmer Bob, see my comment above. Trying to reason with you is like trying reason with a wall. I have no desire to jump down a rabbit hole and try to help you understand what appears to be, to you , very difficult concepts.
DeleteHmmph, humph, see my comments above. Trying to reason with you is like trying to reason with a brick wall. I have no desire to skin a potater and try and help you get understand the concept of concept.
DeleteHmmph, humph
Here, let me help you out old man - it is silly to accuse the Palestinians of ethnic cleansing if they are offering to do what Israel wants by allowing the settlers to remain with Israel. If the particular settlement land is included in Palestine then the settlers can go to Israel fi the settlement land is included in Israel then the settlers stay in Israel. That is not ethnic cleansing.
DeleteI accuse the entire arab world, you remember the 899/900th of the middle east that drove it's Jews INTO Israel?
DeletePALESTINIANS ACCUSE KERRY OF TRYING TO KILL THEIR LEADER
ReplyDeleteKerry go home! While you are at it, bring a planeload of kids home from Afghanistan.
Ash, your boy doesn't mess around. He is the sweet breeze of reason, and he is all yours.
ReplyDelete'MODERATE' IRANIAN PRESIDENT EXECUTES POET, ACTIVIST
He is hardly "my boy". In fact I have little sympathy for the Iranian government and clergy.
DeleteAnd they have even less sympathy for you, my good friend.
DeleteI'm sure that is true. Your point is...?
DeleteReport: Hamas withdraws Gaza rocket prevention force
ReplyDeleteIt is the policy of the Jewish State of Israel that any hostile act, originating outside Israel, against persons and property within the boundaries of Israel shall be viewed as having its origin in the government of the territory from which such hostile act was launched. Therefore, any such hostile act shall be considered an act of war and will be dealt with accordingly.
Hamas has withdrawn its security force responsible for preventing rocket launches targeting Israel from the Gaza Strip, AFP reported on Sunday...
Paging John Kerry...Paging John Kerry...
Hamas announced last month that it would never accept a two-state solution or give up “one inch of the land of Palestine.”
Hamas said it never gave Abbas or anyone else a mandate to agree to the two-state solution.
Darned Jews!!!
hmmmm, Israel won't negotiate with Hamas and then you get your panties in a bunch when Hamas isn't on board - figures.
DeleteAsh, my excellent man, you are brain dead this morning.
DeleteI call it the Ash Potato Blight.
Have some coffee.
Israel should negotiate with Hamas, surrender or die….
DeletePorky: What a C---!
ReplyDeleteSee, Deuce's changes have cleaned up the blog after all.
Didn't stop you from calling me a kike….
DeleteAND my " What a C---!" Said in the same POST that What a C---! stood for crazy.
DeleteYou are without standards.
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DeleteSpeaking of standards, I will have to call you on you're spelling, Wio. Crazy! would have been C----!
I'm sure this admonition would have been delivered by Doug who since Trish departed has taken on the mantle of spell-check and typo czar here on the blog, except Monday is usually set aside for his colonic purges. He was happy as a clam and reported that he had just received his latest shipment of
Colon Blow
.
Quirk, unlike Ms T. I provided what was to fill in the blank on the same specific post.
DeleteMy eye sight and dash counting ability is greatly reduced since the operation.
Porky: wow this is news?
ReplyDeleteIt's a big scandal in certain circles, like finding out Eva Braun, before she became Mrs. Hitler, once dated outside of the Master Race like Sarah Palin did.
Actually, it is not. Bibi was married to a non-Jewish woman before his current wife. You just don't have a clue and that is priceless….
DeleteKeep on showing what a twit you are. It's entertaining.
Ruth was a convert and without her we'd not have King David.
DeleteYour attempts to slime Jews once again? Epic FAIL… lol
"Keep on showing what a twit you are. It's entertaining."
DeleteAsh is playing 'show and tell what a twit you are game' today too.
Big entertainment day here.
;)
This is interesting - pill camera - developed by Israel - to revolutionize the colonoscopy business.
ReplyDeletehttp://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GIVEN_IMAGING_FDA_APPROVAL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-02-03-13-30-46
Wouldn't it be wonderful if the Israelis developed a tiny tiny pill camera that would circulate through (human?) brains like those of Ash so we could easily see what has gone awry?!
PillCam only costs $500 bucks while a normal colonoscopy is about $4,000.
DeleteI know, let's all chip in and buy both of my friends, Ash and Miss T, an Israeli PillCam intestinal photo survey!!
DeleteHeh, that's pretty good one, Bob. He,he,he.
DeleteBeavis
Porky: Making you earn a living in the private sector and not suck off the government tit would be juicy.
ReplyDeleteMy job, income, religion, spouse, children, location, sexual orientation, and favorite color don't have anything to do with this blog. If you insist on making them a part of this blog, I'm sure Deuce will remedy that permanently, in the interest of the New Way.
You were the one that first mentioned your job, income, religion, spouse, children, location, sexual orientation, and favorite color, otherwise no one would know anything about them, including the info that you have changed most of them over the years.
Delete;)
Why u b callin' WiO Porky woman? Dat's name callin' n the 2 b puttin' the big X on u.
DeleteThe Beavs
Excuse me Ms T, you bring it up constantly.
DeleteYour fake faiths... Your fake sexuality... Your fake lesbian partner and now your who knows fake husband.
You tell us all the time of your location.
One thinks that you protest to much...
Porky: Ruth was a convert and without her we'd not have King David.
ReplyDeleteAnd George Washington really did fess up to chopping down a cherry tree. Get real.
And Your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ rose from the dead and walked out of the tomb bodily.
DeleteGet real. Get mythy. Get a cherry pie.
Sorry if our settled history doesn't fly by you. But then again, without it? You would not have a religion at all..
DeleteSo how does that work Ms T, a self processed catholic, one who brags her "boss" is a Jewish Rabbi dissing the literal history of the House of David, were Ruth, converted to become a Jew who's line created the House of david.
Is that an example of someone cutting off one's nose to spite one's face????
One time my car died and I left it at the side of the road and took a cab home. My husband took me back the next day to pick it up and it was gone. I immediately concluded that my car must had been resurrected! Alleluia, Mr. NDE.
ReplyDeleteYou might well have......when it just got stole.
DeleteIf your car had come back and reported about a Big Car Dealership In The Sky you might have been the right road.
Anonobob: You were the one that first mentioned your job, income, religion, spouse, children, location, sexual orientation, and favorite color, otherwise no one would know anything about them, including the info that you have changed most of them over the years.
ReplyDeleteThat was before I found out his blog had it in for people who like Navy Blue.
I like ya and I don't have it in for people who like Navy Blue. I like Navy Blue too.
DeleteYou just get a little goofy sometimes, is all.
But, then, we all do.
You're not nearly as goofy as Ash, if that helps.
DeleteHe even looks goofy, what with that jowly potato head look of his, while you look beautiful, bright and seductive with that drink in your hand !!
DeleteCHEERS
nap time
"WOODY"
DeleteGOOD NAME !
Always thot he was a Perv - NEVER gave him my money to help his worthless sorry perverted, HATEFUL ass out.
ReplyDeleteThank G_d!
Richard Sherman- Peyton is the classiest player I’ve ever met -
ReplyDeleteAs Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman limped around in the bowels of MetLife Stadium after spraining his ankle in Super Bowl XLVIII, he felt someone tap him on the shoulder. He turned and saw that it was Peyton Manning , checking to see if he was OK.
Sherman said on Mike and Mike in the Morning that he was moved by the fact that Manning, who had just been dealt a terrible loss, seemed mostly interested in finding out if Sherman had been badly hurt.
“He was really concerned about my well-being,” Sherman said. “After a game like that, a guy who’s still classy enough to say ‘How are you doing?’ To show that kind of concern for an opponent shows a lot of humility and class.”
Sherman said that despite Manning’s bad game, the Seahawks continue to have a great deal of respect for him.
“He’s a Hall of Fame player, he’s a living legend, he’s a record-holding quarterback, he’s a Super Bowl champion, he’s been a Super Bowl MVP,” Sherman said of Manning.
On Twitter, Sherman took some Seahawks fans to task for bad-mouthing Manning.
“Peyton is the Classiest person/player I have ever met! I could learn so much from him! Thank you for being a great Competitor and person,” Sherman wrote . “There is no reason to bash him on here please Seattle let’s just enjoy this one!!!! He is still a Future HOF player.”
Manning remains a great player, and even on a day when he didn’t play great, he was a classy player.
Peyton couldn't play great, he never had the time with his shitty line/Seattle's great one.
ReplyDeleteStill set a Superbowl Records for Completions!
Then his receivers got destroyed, or somebody turned it over.
T is right: Stuporbowl
Here ya go Sam, Cheer Up!
ReplyDeleteRichard Sherman says 49ers, not Broncos, were the NFL’s second-best team -
In a story on MMQB.com, Seattle Seahawks cornerback said the rival San Francisco 49ers — not the Denver Broncos, whom the Seahawks played in Super Bowl XLVIII — were the NFL's second-best team.
Here's the excerpt from the story from Robert Klemko, who spent the night observing Sherman after the Seahawks throttled the Broncos:
He hates to admit it, but says “the NFC Championship was the Super Bowl. The 49ers were the second-best team in the NFL.”
“A good offense that has really studied film and really done its due diligence will see plays that other teams have had success with and install them as a surprise,” Sherman says. “Brandon Browner got beat in Arizona on posts from two outside receivers, and flats from the slot receivers. And they were the only team that ran it. Kam was the safety and he tried to undercut the post and they just banged it in there. Denver had never run it, and they put it in because of Arizona. That’s chess.”
Whatever the name of the game, the 49ers came within a play of beating the Seahawks in their own stadium. The Broncos had no chance on a neutral site.
Whatever the name of the game, the 49ers came within a play of beating the Seahawks in their own stadium. The Broncos had no chance on a neutral site.
DeleteYeah, what do bookies know anyway?
"Wouldn't it be wonderful if the Israelis developed a tiny tiny pill camera that would circulate through (human?) brains like those of Ash so we could easily see what has gone awry?!"
ReplyDelete---
Sorry
The Pill would be lost in the Chaotic Maelstrom.
Then dissolved in the corrosive environment of mindless liberalism.
Ash Mon Feb 03, 01:26:00 PM EST
ReplyDeletehmmmm, Israel won't negotiate with Hamas and then you get your panties in a bunch when Hamas isn't on board - figures.
Ash
Hamas is recognized as a terrorist organization. I hope that does not come as a shock.
and you get your panties in a bunch when they don't conform to the Abbas policy. If Israel wants peace they will have to find a way to deal with their enemies, and I guess this may come as a shock to you allen, but Hamas is an enemy and Israel can't just ignore them they will have to negotiate with them at some point if they want peace.
Deletepardon the grammar and the run on sentence but I'm on the go...
DeleteAsh,
Deletethey [Israel] will have to negotiate with them at some point if they want peace.
No they don't. Ever heard of unconditional surrender? That worked out superbly with the Japanese, Germans, and Italians. Hamas is emboldened by waffling. In the past, when the US was at the mercy of Arab oil baronies, Hamas had clout. Those days are gone. So is the glory.
Egypt is not negotiating with them either. The best thing that could happen to Gaza would be its governance by Egypt. In a perfect world, both Egypt and Israel could cultivate closer ties by creating of Gaza a jointly administered reservation. The people of Gaza would prosper under such an arrangement.
Ash Mon Feb 03, 07:00:00 PM EST
Deleteand you get your panties in a bunch when they don't conform to the Abbas policy.
Ash, I thought you were a staunch supporter of democracy. The legally elected government of the PA had to flee Gaza following attack by rebels. It was a bloody coup.
Canada has elections, doesn't it. Consider Canada as a model and how you would feel if the lawful government was ousted by terrorists thugs.
Ash,
DeleteYou Muslims had better start learning how to better play the hand you have been dealt. Your stranglehold on the West is quickly coming to an end. Learn humility, such as, "Please", "Thank you", "I see your point of view", "Yes, Ma'am". And ditch the towels; they are no longer considered quaint or innocent relics.
If you Muslims do not change your ways, you will one day learn a lesson you may not survive: the penchant and delight of the West in bloodletting. At one time the West won wars. The current crop of wimps is anomalous to Western history, but that will change as all things do. Get a good book by John Keegan.
This may come as a surprise, but many in the West would just love a little payback. Surely you remember bloodbaths in European airports etc. Forgiveness…Hmm
This may come as a surprise, but many in the West would just love a little payback. Surely you remember bloodbaths in European airports etc. Forgiveness…Hmm
DeleteVendetta is a Middle-Eastern tradition, with some inroads in Sicily. America, unlike Israel, has no permanent enemies.
Ummmm, speaking of democracy allen, didn't hamas actually win the one election they were allowed to contest?
DeleteRe: no permanent enemies
DeleteTo some extent I will agree: Westerners have the habit of making enemies permanently dead. As the Bishop said, "Kill them all and let God sort it out."
When you have watched your family and friends torn to pieces by PLO terrorists on a lovely day in a Rome airport, you might acquire a certain callousness.
Nuke the black rock callous? I hope not.
DeleteTeresita RedingerMon Feb 03, 08:36:00 PM EST
DeleteNuke the black rock callous? I hope not.
I am unaware of a "black rock", although the gift wrap is black, I'm told.
With sorrow, yes, one day there will be a whole lot of nukin' going on. How can it be otherwise in the absence of adult supervision? I doubt the "black rock" will be more than collateral damage.
Ash Mon Feb 03, 08:28:00 PM EST
DeleteUmmmm, speaking of democracy allen, didn't hamas actually win the one election they were allowed to contest?
Ash, do stop.
Thomas Jefferson did not slash the throat of John Adams, nor did Andrew Jackson behead J.Q. Adams over disputed elections.
Hamas is a terrorist, criminal organization in the eyes of the world. If they won an election, that may say something horrid about the electorate.
However bad they are they still need be dealt with.
DeleteI suggest cluster bombs and napalm...
Deleteworked for the USA...
It hasn't worked to date with Hamas. Any other brilliant ideas? Maybe a nuke....?
DeleteAsh, has not been tried yet...
DeleteBut you can see how Hamas types faired in Syria... :)
Ash,
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, there is hope. At long last, we see the damage done our precious bodily fluids (hence, brains) by floridation.
Students Sign Petition To Have Gun Owners Executed In Concentration Camps
Dice has now successfully managed to persuade Americans in his area to agree to repeal the First, Second, Third, Fourth , Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Amendments, as well as the entire Bill Of Rights.
:)
DeleteI'm guessing they want to execute the gun owners by firing squad?
College should be an effort to re-program the student from the damage done at the lower levels by the public school systems. Instead it generally makes it worse.
DeleteWhat with the fluoridation and the public school systems, and now the legalized mary jane, we're 'sunk', as my aunt would have said.
Execution by firing squad using rubber bullets....the humane way to kill gun owners.....
DeleteFarmer BobMon Feb 03, 08:37:00 PM EST
Delete:)
I'm guessing they want to execute the gun owners by firing squad?
Bob,
I gather that many do, with the owners' firearms.
The gag-polling was done in California, I believe. That says something, as does having American citizens allowing themselves to become outnumbered by aliens. California may have to be renamed - "Babelonya?".
Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim terrorists are so quick to commit suicide. Lets have a look at the evidence:
ReplyDelete- No Christmas
- No television
- No nude women
- No football
- No pork chops
- No hot dogs
- No burgers
- No beer
- No bacon
- Rags for clothes
- Towels for hats
- Constant wailing from some idiot in a tower
- More than one wife
- More than one mother in law
- You can't shave
- Your wife can't shave
- You don't use toilet paper
- You can't wash off the smell of donkey
- You cook over burning camel shit
- Your wife is picked by someone else for you
- Your wife smells worse than your donkey
Then they tell you that "when you die, it all gets better?" Well no shit, Sherlock! ... It's not like it could get much worse.
:):):):):)
DeleteThis Lady I call my 'redemptive T', 'the good T', "Miss T of the Old Humor' ---
"The Tea Leavings Worth Reading"
Not some nitwit "Biblical Scholar"
Good one, Miss T.
AshMon Feb 03, 07:00:00 PM EST is prima facie evidence that Ash can't think and be 'on the go' at the same time.
ReplyDeleteQuirk, on the other hand, is expert at thinking while being 'on the go'. He has to be.......for Quirk it is a matter of survival.
And Quirk is a survivor.
allenMon Feb 03, 08:54:00 PM EST
ReplyDelete"Teresita RedingerMon Feb 03, 08:36:00 PM EST
Nuke the black rock callous? I hope not.
I am unaware of a "black rock", although the gift wrap is black, I'm told.
With sorrow, yes, one day there will be a whole lot of nukin' going on."
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What's wrong w/that, as long as it's all them?
:-)
...my first Nuclear Happy Face.
Ash ignored me.
ReplyDeleteWhat could be wrong with that?
Sorry dougo, what can I help you with?
Delete
DeleteWhen King David was on his death bed he shivered all the time. They piled blankets on him, but he was still cold. So finally they rounded up a virgin to crawl into his bed to give him heat, which she promptly did. David's wife Bathsheba was nearby, and she wondered what was wrong with her own body heat? But it was perks like deathbed virgins that has inspired men to become kings throughout history.
Thanks for showing your "classy" side. You never cease to be a jew hating, Judaism distorting person.
DeleteOnce again, your words prove your hatreds, thanks for showing the world your true nature.
I scrolled back trying to find where I ignored you but failed in my quest. Enlighten me please.
DeleteIt's not devastating to be ignored by my friend Ash.
DeleteMaybe that is what Doug is saying?
Teresita RedingerMon Feb 03, 09:28:00 PM EST
DeleteThat doesn't make any sense that I can determine, Miss T.
Your exegesis is a total fail.
A+ for gibberish, though.
DeleteWhere the Hell is Sam?
ReplyDeleteI fear he's in Niner Mourning.
Hugh Hewitt: Hour 1 – Hugh talks about the death of Philip Seymour Hoffman with playwright, author and director, David Mamet, and back to politics and foreign policy with Congressman Tom Cotton
ReplyDelete---
If someone with a brain (leaves out Quirk
...and Bob in this instance) wants to post this here, I'll send it to you.
Can't figure out how to post it yourself, Butthead?
DeleteYour Best Bud,
Beavis
Nice try, Quirk, you asshole.
Delete
ReplyDeleteLawyers Guns and Money
This High Tech Injection Heals Gunshot Wounds in 15 Seconds
It also looks a little like a penis.
By Jordyn Taylor 2/03 5:39pm
An Oregon based startup might have revolutionized the way we heal gunshot wounds.
Startup RevMedx, which develops products for military medics and members of the emergency services, has created a device that can heal a gunshot wound in 15 seconds, Popular Science reports. The device is called XStat, and its creators are hoping the FDA will approve it for use by medical professionals.
XStat consists of an applicator filled with dozens of tiny sponges that soak up a ton of blood when injected into an open wound. It’s kind of like a tampon for bullet wounds, we guess.
And those pesky little sponges won’t get lodged and lost in your body forever. They’re marked with something called a “radiopaque marker,” which means they’ll show up on an x-ray when the victim reaches the hospital.
Currently, military medics and civilian first responders typically use gauze to heal gunshot wounds—a process that’s apparently painful as hell, and not particularly efficient. “A medic must pack gauze directly into the wound cavity, sometimes as deep as 5 inches into the body, to stop bleeding from an artery,” Popular Science explains. “It’s an agonizing process that doesn’t always work—if bleeding hasn’t stopped after three minutes of applying direct pressure, the medic must pull out all the gauze and start over again.” Nice.
According to Popular Science, the RevMedx team received $5 million from the U.S. Army to finish developing the product. The company also won a seed grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to develop a version of XStat that helps stymie postpartum bleeding.
If approved by the FDA, it’ll be interesting to see how XStat holds up against QuikClot, a coagulant used by New York City’s Emergency Service Unit that helps stop rapid bleeding. QuikClot is a granular substance that’s sort of sprinkled over a wound, so it doesn’t involve any aggressive gauze stuffing, either.
Either way, it’s good to know that we’ll be well cared for should we ever come in contact with, you know, an organ destroying bullet or something.
Read more at http://betabeat.com/2014/02/this-high-tech-injection-heals-gunshot-wounds-in-15-seconds/#ixzz2sK1Or6eE
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I came up with a brilliant idea for a Children's Movie:
Delete"The Jaws of Death"
Heroic Firemen, State Troopers, and EMT's risk death pulling a family out of crumpled car with flames around it's leaking gas tank.
They remove the victims to a safe distance, and lay them down.
A Fireman approaches with The Jaws of Death, and proceeds to snip off their extremities, working his way up until only the heads and torsos remain.
It is then time to pop off the heads.
A sure candidate for awards and record setting crowds.
A sure candidate for awards and record setting crowds........at The All Idiot Film Festival......
DeleteWho you lining up as Director, Ash or q?
DeleteBottomless hubris is called for, so the obvious candidate is Quirk.
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DeleteGood choice.
DeleteAnd q knows how to fleece idiots.
ReplyDeleteAlien Life & Exoplanets
Are We Searching for Aliens in the Wrong Place?
Feb 3, 2014 12:45 PM ET // by Ian O'Neill
Super-Earths with shallower bodies of water could be more habitable for life than Earth.
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Earth may be a nice and cozy place for life as we know it to evolve, but is it really the best place for life to thrive? Probably not, say two researchers. In fact, Earth may be one of the more extreme examples of a “habitable” world where life was lucky to survive.
ANALYSIS: Why the Hunt for Extraterrestrial Life is Important
The search for extraterrestrial life is fraught with uncertainly. Faced with a seemingly infinite Universe and an assumption that life beyond our planet is an inevitability, we focus on nooks and crannies that have similar habitable environments to Earth and exoplanets that resemble our world orbiting stars that resemble our sun. But finding these special places feels like we’re looking for a very specific needle in a very big haystack. What if our definition of “habitable” is just not all that, well, habitable?
“The Earth just scrapes the inner edge of the solar system’s habitable zone — the area in which temperatures allow Earth-like planets to have liquid surface water,” said René Heller of McMaster University, Ontario, Canada. “So from this perspective, Earth is only marginally habitable. That led us to ask: could there be more hospitable environments for life on terrestrial planets?”
Looking at the history of our planet, it may seem amazing that life was ever able to gain a foothold. Between the asteroid and comet bombardments, intense volcanic activity, frigid ice ages and often poisonous atmospheres, how were the conditions ever ripe for single celled lifeforms to form? Perhaps life was just really lucky to have found its way in such an inhospitable place.
13 Ways to Hunt Intelligent Aliens
Heller and colleague John Armstrong of Weber State University think that we may be looking for life in all the wrong places and suggest that we should be looking not for “second-Earths” but a class of planet that is superhabitable.
DeleteIn an article published in Astrobiology in January, the researchers describe some of the characteristics a superhabitable planet may have. Some of the features — such as the necessity for a global magnetic field to protect life from ionizing solar wind particles — sound very familiar. But Heller and Armstrong highlight the need for a more efficient global “thermostat” that would avoid damaging ice ages. Also, a more massive planet with shallower oceans may be a more habitable solution.
In their research, they highlight the nearby star Alpha Centauri B as an ideal candidate that could support a superhabitable world. Slightly smaller than our sun, Alpha Centauri B would be able to incubate hypothetical lifeforms on a superhabitable world for much longer owing to its longer lifespan. "You want to have a host star that can keep a planet in the habitable zone for 7 to 10 billion years," which would allow enough time for life to evolve and ecosystems to flourish, Heller told New Scientist.
“We propose a shift in focus,” said Heller. “We want to prioritize future searches for inhabited planets. We’re saying ‘Don’t just focus on the most Earth-like planets if you really want to find life.’”
Top 10 Places To Find Alien Life
The researchers believe our hunt for extraterrestrial life is too set in its ways and blinkered toward worlds that we consider to be habitable because they resemble Earth. It’s a grand observational bias that may ultimately mean that while looking for second-Earths, we overlook far more habitable planets.
While discussions like this are valuable, I think they can be counterproductive.
Although it is very important to have “out of the box” thinking when it comes to the search for extraterrestrial life (whether that life be single-celled organisms hidden deep inside Mars’ crust or highly intelligent alien civilizations), using life as we know it as a template is no bad thing. After all, we are the only lifeforms we know of in the entire Universe, why would we ever consider Earth “barely habitable”?
How life is sparked remains one of the biggest questions hanging over modern science and the search for extraterrestrial life is an offshoot from that. Perhaps Earth, in its barely habitable state, is actually the perfect environment for life to gain a foothold?
Lacking evidence to the contrary, seeking out second-Earths probably isn’t such a bad idea.
Possibilities locally for alien life, but not intelligent alien life, include, but are not limited to: Detroit, Maui, all of Canada, Mississippi. Seattle is a possibility for intelligent alien life. After all Seattle has The Space Needle, which is advertised as a restaurant to fool the tourists but is really an intergalactic landing pad.
Delete'all of Canada' is inserted as I am unsure just where in Canada Ash 'lives'.
DeleteIn Maui, the lava tubes are a great possibility.
DeleteHere's the link to the article:
Deletehttp://news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-exoplanets/are-we-searching-for-aliens-in-the-wrong-place-140203.htm
You and your damned Aliens.
ReplyDeleteHere's the important story:
That O'reilly interview was mind boggling.
One outrageous lie after another, after another.
No doubt The Libertarian's Supreme Liar, r2, will back Obama contending that a pick up team of terrorists can instantly set up mortars with pinpoint accuracy.
...and there was not even "a smidgin" (Obama's Words) of corruption in the IRS Scandal.
That Cunt just took the 5th for Shits and Giggles.
...in HolderObamaRufusWorld.
All detestable, lying, scum.
"Ventura, in an interview with Larry King on Ora.tv’s "Politicking," suggested that he would run for president as an independent if he could get his name on the ballot in all 50 states."
ReplyDeleteNice to know we don't have to worry about that.
The First of the Israeli Firsters speaks:
ReplyDelete“Some of us see the object as being to target Iran,” said Abraham H. Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League. “We’re not out there to target the president; we’re out there to target Iran.”
They would love the US to get into another ME war.
ReplyDelete.
DeleteWhat? The ADL is now encroaching on AIPAC's mandate?
.
Why Deuce? The record for America lately sucks...
Delete.
DeleteThe trouble is, Aipac’s fervent push on Iran sanctions has increasingly allied it with Mr. Netanyahu and against Mr. Obama. J Street, a more dovish pro-Israel group, has lobbied vigorously against the bill, underscoring divergent views within the pro-Israel lobby.
“You’re seeing, in the American Jewish community, an engagement in the debate in a more complex way,” said Representative Peter Welch, a Vermont Democrat. “Some say they want sanctions, but some say they support the White House.”
J Street, no doubt just a group of self-hating Jews.
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Fatah wants Kerry prosecuted before International Criminal Court for threatening Abbas
ReplyDeleteRobert Spencer Feb 3, 2014 at 1:07pm Fatah, Israel, Palestinian Authority, United States 10 Comments
KERRY-ABBAS
Apparently John Kerry believes in diplomacy by threat, as he recently threatened Israel with new uprisings if the Israelis didn’t make new concessions to the Palestinian jihadists. But this is a strange threat for him to have made, if this story is accurate. Is Kerry implying that Arafat was indeed assassinated, as Islamic supremacist conspiracy theorists constantly claim?
“Fatah wants Kerry prosecuted before ICC for ‘threatening’ Abbas,” by Khaled Abu Toameh for the Jerusalem Post, February 2:
US Secretary of State John Kerry recently threatened PA President Mahmoud Abbas that he would meet the same fate as his predecessor, Yasser Arafat, if he turned down Washington’s proposals for peace with Israel, a Palestinian source was quoted Sunday as saying.
The source told the website Rai al-Youm that Abbas angrily stormed out of a four-hour meeting with Kerry in Ramallah after the latter exerted pressure on him to accept the proposals.
The source claimed that Kerry told Abbas his fate would not be “less than that of Yasser Arafat.”
Jamal Muhaissen, a senior Fatah official in the West Bank, said that if the report is true, “this shows that Israel assassinated Yasser Arafat after receiving a green light from the US administration.”
Muhaissen said that Kerry’s threat comes in wake of his failure to impose a settlement on Israel that is “consistent with international law.”
Kerry should not hold the Palestinians responsible for his failure with the Israelis, the Fatah official added.
“If true, Kerry’s threat paves the way for bringing him before the International Criminal Court for threatening the life of an elected Palestinian president,” Muhaissen said.
Kerry’s proposals were met with shock and rejection by Abbas, Rai al-Youm’s source said.
The source said that Kerry’s proposals do not meet the minimum of Palestinian aspirations and Abbas’s promises to his people.
“Abbas wants future generations to remember him as a hero who managed to achieve for his people what the largest Arab powers and parties failed to obtain in all their wars with Israel,” the unnamed source explained.
The source claimed that Kerry’s proposals call for Israel’s annexation of between 6 and 8 percent of West Bank land. In return, the Palestinians would be compensated with a comparable measure of land from inside Israel.
In addition, the source said, the proposals envisage the opening of a safe passage between the West Bank and Gaza Strip and the division of east Jerusalem.
As for the issue of the refugees, the source said, Kerry wants to establish an international fund for settling Palestinians in Australia and anywhere else they wish. Only a small number of refugees would be permitted to enter Israel in the context of “family reunion.”
The source claimed that the proposals consider creating large settlement blocs where 80% of the settlers would be gathered under Israeli sovereignty. The settlers would be offered dual citizenship (Israeli and Palestinian).
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I know you think I made this up, or that's it's from that damned Jihad Watch or some other disreputable source, but you'd be wrong.
DeleteIt's actually the Israeli transcript of the "Ash Brain Readings, Session 1" recorded from the Israeli invented 'Alpha, Beta, Gamma Zeta-Zoo Brain Wave Micro Micro Reading Pill' given to Ash in Jerusalem when he was abducted by the Jews recently.
Here's the link to 'the reading' -
Deletehttp://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/fatah-wants-kerry-prosecuted-before-international-criminal-court-for-threatening-abbas?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=3d8e5e8727-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-3d8e5e8727-97529822
And if you think this reading bizarre, you should see the Jenny readings ! The q readings are coming up. The Miss T readings were rejected as being so jumbled up with crazy Biblical references as to be undecipherable even by the best Zionist/Imperialist minds.
Delete"The Bomb", a Syrian themed Arabic eatery, has just opened in Detroit, Michigan.
ReplyDeletehttp://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/02/03/the-bomb-middle-eastern-restaurant-to-open-in-eastpointe/
The proprietor, seen in photo with bald head and mustache, one Mustafa O. Quirko, said "business is exploding".
The winner of the new eatery's slogan contest?
Delete"Eat our fast food fast - it may be your last meal"
So they searched throughout the land of Israel for a beautiful girl, and they found Monica Lewinsky from Shunem and brought her to the king. The girl was very beautiful, and she looked after the king and took care of him But the king had no sexual relations with her. (1 Kings 1:1-4)
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DeleteNot bad, but the last should read "But the King rose, and proclaimed to all the land: 'I had no sexual relations with that woman' ".
DeleteAlso, maybe, "The woman was very beautiful, and she looked after the King, and took care of the King, and was often on her knees before the her King"......
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ReplyDeleteSandra Fluke files for congressional bid.
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Right On!
DeleteWomen's Unlib.
I'm sure T is outraged that she'll have to buy her own damned condoms and Birth Adjustment tablets.
Not when she is with Miss Fely.
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DeleteDon't strap on units include selected sperm injectors?
Or are we just talkin fingers and tongues?
I tried that, but the tongue wouldn't reach.
Back to the fist.
Crude, but reliable.
Not when she is climbing the Three Mountain Peaks seeking the Grotto of the White Tiger at the Peak of the Purple Mushroom, and that is for damned certain.
Deleteq, too, is a cunning linguist.
DeleteMoistly translated from 'The Sexual Tao', aka 'Conjunctions and Disjunctions', Octavio Paz trans. Helen R. Lane. 1975.
DeleteI always thot it was cunnilingus.
DeleteTurns out it is "Cunnilugus"
eew!
Glad I didn't know that back in the day.
Thank God for no Google in our formative years.
...eew!
Glad that word was not visual
"Not when she is climbing the Three Mountain Peaks seeking the Grotto of the White Tiger at the Peak of the Purple Mushroom, and that is for damned certain."
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That's your Nintendo, Idiot!
Scott Whitaker's -Dynaliner-
ReplyDeleteDEUCE Coupe
Couple of HS kids (Avenal High, where else, Dumbasses and Ms'sss?)
DeleteHad a Coupe like that, but with a McCullough Centrifugal Supercharged Caddy Overhead Valved (357?) Cadillac V-8.
The Deuce Coup in the video has a vane, or Roots type supercharger.
(kind of like a Rotary Mazda in reverse)
Anyways, they decided to see what it could do on Hwy 33 between Avenal, and the place of my birth, Coalinga, CA, 17 miles away.
DeleteDidn't make it.
Once that little Coupe started rolling, all there was left was body parts.
Coupe, and human.
Caddy was a 331 cubic inch killer.
Delete...so to speak.
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ReplyDeleteGeneva -- The Syrian government on Monday failed to authorize an international aid convoy to enter blockaded areas in the city of Homs, as the opposition’s Western backers declared that if the delivery was not allowed by next week they would be likely to challenge the government in the United Nations Security Council.
United Nations mediators had hoped the aid delivery would serve as a confidence-building measure at the tenuous peace talks here, and the lack of progress sharpened tensions as the opposing Syrian sides clashed over their widely differing views of the basic purpose of the negotiations.
During the third day of face-to-face meetings, according to several people briefed on the talks, a member of the government delegation clashed with the United Nations special envoy, Lakhdar Brahimi, and denounced the opposition as “illiterate” and “Wahhabis,” an austere Sunni sect that the Syrian government blames for extremism in the insurgency. But both sides said they would keep talking.
And from the other side
The opposition denounced a government proposal to allow women and children out of the blockaded Homs areas, calling it a ploy to displace and arrest government opponents.
Things are going as expected at Geneva II.
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"...if the delivery was not allowed by next week they would be likely to challenge the government in the United Nations Security Council."
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Say it ain't so, Joe!
...anything but THATq
Nice link, btw.
Delete...or even pasted address.
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Deletehttp://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/28/world/middleeast/syria-talks-fail-to-yield-pact-to-lift-aid-blockade.html?src=rechp
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What about my subsidized subscription?
DeleteI've already used up 2 out of my ten monthly free views at the Mother of All Newspapers.
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DeleteYou dumb shit. When I went back to get your stupid ass link, it probably used up my second free article, you ungrateful twit.
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Not that there's anything wrong w/that.
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Residents Upset With Name Of New Middle Eastern Restaurant, 'The Bomb'...........drudge
ReplyDelete"The Bomb" has been threatened with bombing.
The proprietor, one Mustafa O. Quirko, is reported to be hiring from overseas retired Israeli security personnel for protection.
Ash,
ReplyDeleteOvernight I had some thoughts about Zionism I wish to share with you.
Because Jews were persecuted with particular ferocity by Czarist Russia gave no excuse for stealing the land of others. If you would read a bit of the literature produced by Jews both pro and con on the question of Zionism, you will discover that both sides agreed with my first sentence. Jews wished to purchase land from its owners within the Ottoman Empire and through the generosity of the Rothschilds and the success of fund raising activity among ordinary Jews, worldwide, the Zionists did exactly that. Therefore, prior to the 1948 War, Jewish settlements were owned in fee simple via standard land contracts. When these settlements grew and prospered, Muslims and Christians sought and were given gainful employment.
Not all Zionists felt strong attachment to the Levant. Indeed, some would have been content with providing Jews a safe harbor anywhere other than viciously, murderous Eastern Europe. With this in mind, the "Father of Zionism", Herzl, agreed to make the case to his fellow Zionists to consider the British offer of an enormous land grant in Uganda. During the same time frame, so desperate were the Zionists to get Jews out of Russian that a group of 9,300 settled in the Galveston, Texas area. As should be clear, Zionism was an idea that took many forms and contrary to popular myth was not monolithically motivated to settle only in the Levant, which explains why Australia and Canada, for example, were also considered. Only after years of infighting and sometimes bitter division was the Levant finally chosen as the preferred region for Jewish settlement.
The early Zionists were overly represented by Utopian communists and socialists, who in their heart of hearts sincerely wished to live quietly and at peace with both the Muslims and Christians of the Holy Land. They wrote of an inclusive, multi-ethnic, religiously neutral society. While you may be unaware, much of the Zionist leadership was made up of atheists or non-conformist Jews, for whom the zealous practice of Judaism was, at best, an anachronistic impediment. As for the Rabbinate and their Orthodox congregations in Eastern Europe, Zionism was an insult to G-d, to be denied and resisted at every opportunity. Even today within Israel, many Orthodox Jews reject the Jewish State. The reason they are found in Israel is because there was nowhere else to go following the Shoah.
More may follow.
"Moistly translated from 'The Sexual Tao', aka 'Conjunctions and Disjunctions"
ReplyDeleteCome on, q, you gotta give him his due.
Don't you?
(Not that any of us buy that it's an Original.)
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DeleteMoistly translated?
Give him his due?
Sorry, Doug, I would like to comply but as with half your posts here, I don't know what the shit you are talking about.
I am not trying to be a smart ass (although it may come naturally) but it would really help me if you would add some specificity to your posts especially on in the subject and predicate.
Over the last month or so, I have seen a number of your posts that I thought might have been directed to me or about me but let them pass because I couldn't be sure.
Again, not trying to be a smart ass. Just saying.
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Payday for the Mullahs !!
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We are dopes.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/joseph-klein/pay-day-for-the-mullahs/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=c478f8c6da-Mailchimp_FrontPageMag&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-c478f8c6da-156481579