THE SADISTIC STRATEGY OF
OBAMA AND REID
by: Patrick J. Buchanan
10/4/2013 06:00 AM
10/4/2013 06:00 AM
In the showdown over the shutdown of the U.S. government, the Obamaites tipped their hand yesterday as what their strategy is.
Taking a page out of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals,” the plan is to maximize the people’s pain — to maximize the political damage to the enemy, the Republican Party.
What else explains it?
Consider this: Asked Wednesday if there were any danger of America defaulting on her debt, President Obama rushed to assure a reporter that, yes, indeed, there certainly is such a peril.
Why would a president act in so perverse a manner, were he not trying deliberately to rattle or panic the markets?
Obama’s tactic worked. Thursday, the Dow plunged below 15,000.
Equally telling is what happened at the World War II Memorial.
This is an open memorial on the mall, to which the old soldiers of the Greatest Generation, flown here on honor flights, come to a last roll call with their comrades. The memorial is dedicated to them, to what they and their buddies did, and to those who never came home.
But when the old soldiers got here, the Park Service, apparently acting on orders from the White House complex, had thrown up steel barriers and crime-scene tape to keep them from visiting the site on what is surely the last trip many will ever make to see their memorial.
What kind of sick mind does something like that?
To their credit, the vets and their families pulled aside the barriers to walk through their monument, singing songs in memory of the heroes who had gone before.
Now one reads that Obama has ordered the cemetery and beaches at Normandy closed. Again, what kind of mindset produces this?
Undeniably, Republicans have voted to defund Obamacare, to suspend it for one year, and to reform it. But in each of these three votes, the House also voted to fund the entire government.
Why, then, is the government shut down? Because Harry Reid and Barack Obama have issued an edict: Either Obamacare is fully funded and untouched in the continuing resolution, or we kill the CR, shut down the government, and blame you.
And this is exactly what is going on.
This is all about a petulant president whose prize program the people do not want, but who insists it be imposed upon them, to assure himself a paragraph in the history books.
This week, Republicans tried to pass legislation that would keep open all memorials and monuments, all tourist sites in Washington, D.C., and all programs for America’s veterans.
Who stonewalled that? Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Barack Obama.
Why would Reid sabotage the funding the National Institute of Health.
Why would Reid sabotage what is transparently a humanitarian act?
Again, Reid and Obama do not want to ease the pain of the people. They want to intensify that pain, ratchet it up, maximize it, to put maximum pressure on and do maximum damage to the GOP.
The Obama-Reid strategy is, in a word, sadistic.
They are inflicting pain on fellow Americans — to break their political enemies. And they can only succeed in sustaining their Big Lie — that it is Republicans who want to keep the government shut down — because of a collaborationist press.
Case in point: The Washington Post.
Several days ago, the Post wailed that Republicans were endangering the nation’s health by failing to fund NIH. But now that the Republican House has tried to fund NIH in full, where is the editorial denouncing Pelosi or Reid for blocking funding for NIH? Nowhere. Which suggests the Post’s real concern was never about funding NIH but about bashing the GOP.
In Thursday’s lead editorial: “National Security at Risk,” the Washington Post asks, “At a time of war, how can Republicans justify furloughing much of the intelligence workforce?”
Excellent question.
Yet, not a word in the editorial about the indispensable role of Reid and our commander-in-chief in preventing America’s security agencies from being funded.
What should the House Republican do before week’s end? Pass bills funding the Pentagon, State, CIA, NSA, Homeland Security and any other agency having to do with the national security. But when Harry Reid again balks that he is not going to “play this little game,” anyone think the Post will hold him accountable?
The Obama-Reid strategy — inflict maximum pain on the country for maximum gain for themselves — coupled with a refusal to talk with the GOP — reflects this city’s contempt for conservative Republicans.
Yet, the sadistic strategy of Obama and Reid, and the poisonous atmosphere it has created, is telling America that: In its assessment of this city’s ruling establishment, the Tea Party has more than a small point.
Yet, with Reid now on the defensive, trying to justify his refusal to cooperate in funding any agency, the truth may be gaining on the Big Lie.
Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?”
"* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
ReplyDeleteImagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist."
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ReplyDelete"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the crowd".
Why in the world, Lucado, would anyone want to lead an orchestra?
ReplyDeleteWhen it is enough to sing one's own solitary song.
DeleteThe fullness of life is not found in a singularity.
Who said it was?
DeleteSure isn't found in an orchestra.
One's own solitary song does not necessarily exclude others.
In fact it might be built around them.
G'nite, Lucado
Briefly put, both Obama and Reid are turds of the very first order.
ReplyDeleteExample:
DeletePark Service ranger: “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”
POSTED AT 6:41 PM ON OCTOBER 4, 2013 BY ALLAHPUNDIT
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/04/park-service-ranger-weve-been-told-to-make-life-as-difficult-for-people-as-we-can-its-disgusting/
A Park Ranger with integrity would resign his position.
Delete"How does it become a man to behave towards the American government today?
I answer, that he cannot without disgrace be associated with it."
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/topics/topic_government6.html#HZJobSc4f4siWaIl.99
ReplyDelete"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes".
What Famous Quote Book are you using?
Delete"Those that rely on Famous Quote Books lack imagination of their own."
bobbo
Delete"For most of history, Anonymous was a woman."
Delete"The improvement of understanding is for two ends:
first, our own increase of knowledge;
secondly, to enable us to deliver that knowledge to others."
Ah, it's Brainy Quotes.
DeleteAll these problems, just because the Republicans don't want some poor people to have healthcare. Amazin.
ReplyDeleteWhat an amazin stupid statement.
DeleteYou do have to be one sick fuck to come up with an idea to close an open air memorial like a cemetery.
ReplyDeleteWhat a sacrilege.
DeleteThe dead should arise and tear the barriers down.
It's disgusting.
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ReplyDeleteI disagree. The only thing Buchanan has right is blaming Obama and Reid for the mess we are in. What he fails to do is to also blame Boehner and the dicks in his caucus for their part in the current fiasco.
Anyone who is aware of the budget discussions since March knows this is just a case of political gamesmanship being played by both sides. If I were to blame one side more than the other it would have to be the GOP.
Here is a video of a GOP senator looking for a favorable photo-op by browbeating a female park service officer who is doing the job she was told to do. The laid-off worker at the end of the video has the right of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-123whqIRjY
They are all dicks.
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Who said:
ReplyDelete"Lovin' you is like drivin' a Maserati down a dead end street"?
Who said:
ReplyDelete"When I first saw you I shoulda just called for help"?
Who said:
ReplyDelete"I'm ;pickin' banjo now"?
If you shit kickers would listen to a little country/western you'd know.
ReplyDeleteInstead, it's all politics.
jeez
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ReplyDeleteI can't understand those who hold Boehner faultless in this fiasco.
2014 Senate and House budget resolutions have been waiting for reconciliation for six months and Boehner has refused to even appoint members to the reconciliation committee until pressured to do so within the last few days. Basically, he has refused to do his job.
There being no budget, Bo passes a partisan continuing resolution which calls for the defunding of Obamacare. The Senate rejects it and sends a clean bill back to the House. Bo refuses to even allow a House vote on it, a vote he knows he will lose.
When the government shuts down due to this intransigence, Bo tries a policy of 'death by a 1,000 cuts' tactic and the shutdown continues.
They are all dicks.
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In what Act and Scene did Juliet give up her language restraint and just let 'er rip?
ReplyDeleteLike a horse done slipped the harness, free to run.....
What was Romeo's tragic flaw?
ReplyDeleteDid the Nurse aid and abet the affair?
ReplyDeleteSame question concerning Friar Lawrence.
What wound was healed by the deaths of our two young lovers?
ReplyDeleteTo keep the record straight
ReplyDeleteFirst the challenge:
What is "Occupation"Thu Oct 03, 11:23:00 PM EDT
One frequent poster who claims to be a Jew, repeatedly called for the mass murder of Muslims and cheers on the murder of Muslims by other Muslims, so spare me the sanctimony. That same poster has been repeatedly censored for comments referring to my father or calling me a nazi. He would not dare say that to my face.
With all due respect your line "called for the mass murder of Muslims" it utter bullshit.
Never have, never will.
You are the keeper of the keys, post the quote. Or you are wrong.
As for the out of context line "cheers on the murder of Muslims by other Muslims" you should be more careful with your slander. I will admit to hear about islamic moslems who advocate and carry out the attempts to cause the genocide of Jews killing other moslems that advocate and attempt to commit genocide is irony at it's best. However your simplistic "cheers on the murder of Muslims by other Muslims" lacks the clarity to explain. So excuse me for not agreeing with YOUR match box explanation of my point.
I will say it again. Your statement “cheers on the murder of Muslims by other Muslims” is inaccurate.
Second, the response:
What is "Occupation"Sat Nov 12, 10:59:00 AM EST
I hope Iran gets the bomb, and uses it against Saudi Arabia.
Then you will get what you deserve.
War and guess what? Israel will not be apart of it.
JUST as it was not a part of the Gulf War 1 or 2....
Iran is on a war path to destroy the west. israel actually will not be it's 1st target.
But the Israel hating nitwits of this blog cant see the forest for the trees..
So?
I hope Israel stays out of it, and I will personally laugh my ass off as millions of sunnis are being murdered by shia as the USA pisses it's pants.
Not to worry. after the fighting starts and spreads to many other theaters Israel will still be an ally of the USA.
So dont worry Israel will have America's back...
Cant think of another American ally that will however...
America is selling out it's allies faster than Ms T can create a new screen name....
But go ahead, blame Bibi for all the problems of the world...
And yeah...
Iran aint singing kumbaya. But you'll are tone deaf.
ReplyDelete
QED
Nope not me "called for the mass murder of Muslims".
DeleteIts me comments on your appeasing Iran. And what is about to happen.
Wrong again Sparkie.
"He's a one trick pony
DeleteHe either fails or he succeeds
He gives his testimony
Then he relaxes in the weeds
He's got one trick to last a lifetime
But that's all a pony needs
(that's all he needs) "
ReplyDeleteWith all due respect your line "called for the mass murder of Muslims" it utter bullshit.
Never have, never will.
You are the keeper of the keys, post the quote. Or you are wrong.
Here is only one time where you called and wished for mass murder of Muslims:
What is "Occupation"Sat Nov 12, 10:59:00 AM EST
I hope Iran gets the bomb, and uses it against Saudi Arabia.
Then you will get what you deserve.
not even close..
DeleteAgain commenting on America's appeasement on iran.
NOT EVEN CLOSE to "called for the mass murder of Muslims"
Try again spark
"He's a one trick pony
DeleteHe either fails or he succeeds
He gives his testimony
Then he relaxes in the weeds
He's got one trick to last a lifetime
But that's all a pony needs
(that's all he needs) "
The sentence, written and posted by you, “ I hope Iran gets the bomb, and uses it against Saudi Arabia.”
ReplyDeletehas two components to it:
1. It is a wish.
2. The wish is that Iran gets the bomb and uses it against Saudi Arabia.
I said: One frequent poster who claims to be a Jew, repeatedly called for the mass murder of Muslims and cheers on the murder of Muslims by other Muslims, so spare me the sanctimony.
You said: With all due respect your line "called for the mass murder of Muslims" it utter bullshit.
Never have, never will.
You are the keeper of the keys, post the quote. Or you are wrong.
Now tell us more about my charge, your denial and challenge and my three minutes search to prove your wish and cheering on of the mass murder of Muslims. Where do you differ from the anti-Semites that wish for the mass murder of Jews? The selection of victims?
Bullshit.
DeleteIf you want to take out context the statement? Want to twist the meanings?
Again sparkie you lie...
Iran would take out Arabia's OIL abilities.
Hardly calling for the mass murder of muslims.
You really are desperate....
Learn geo-politics.
If iRan were to take out the oil abilities of arabia with a nuke?
You will be screwed.
NOWHERE did I say nuke PEOPLE.
Desperate?
Try again...
but the blog?
still sucks
when you look in that mirror deuce do you see a nice, compassionate, loving person?
DeleteCause the image you and your blog portray?
A Jew hating, Israel hating, Zionist bashing evil black hearted shallow troll of a guy..
really...
pathetic.
Now delete my words and leave the Rat's purely evil shit up...
Deleteasshole.
No, I think I will choose to leave your words up.
DeletePerhaps some additional context is in order:
DeleteWhat is "Occupation"Sat Nov 12, 10:59:00 AM EST
I hope Iran gets the bomb, and uses it against Saudi Arabia.
Then you will get what you deserve.
War and guess what? Israel will not be apart of it.
JUST as it was not a part of the Gulf War 1 or 2....
Iran is on a war path to destroy the west. israel actually will not be it's 1st target.
But the Israel hating nitwits of this blog cant see the forest for the trees..
So?
I hope Israel stays out of it, and I will personally laugh my ass off as millions of sunnis are being murdered by shia as the USA pisses it's pants.
Not to worry. after the fighting starts and spreads to many other theaters Israel will still be an ally of the USA.
So dont worry Israel will have America's back...
Cant think of another American ally that will however…
…I hope Israel stays out of it, and I will personally laugh my ass off as millions of sunnis are being murdered by shia as the USA pisses it’s pants…
Deleteyep, aint calling for mass murder.
DeleteJust going to laugh my ass off as you piss your pants...
you should learn to read.
"He's a One Trick Pony"
DeleteThat's really clever, I like it.
Accurate, lyrical, imaginative ...
You go, Paul!
:):):):):)
Yep on this blog I am concerned ONLY about Israel, jews and Judaism"
DeleteUnlike others who live the Cliff Claven method of having an opinion on EVERYTHING under the sun.
Paul Simon, author of One Trick Pony, a strong Zionist, Jew and Israel lover. You could have caught Paul in Israel just 18 months ago in his sold out Tel Aviv concerts..
A wish is not a call to do anything.
ReplyDelete“Desires are what can most easily ruin us, lovely.”
DeleteI wish all the wolves here were gone, but I haven't called for it by writing to the paper and urging it.
ReplyDeleteWiO is guilty of showing deep concern for the one homeland the Jewish people have on earth.
I'd rather have Iran fighting Saudi Arabia than fighting Israel and the USA, for my part.
"Anything that weakens Islam as a whole, or an Islamic nation...."
"Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime."
DeleteWhat a different review is this.. I never seen like this ever...
ReplyDeleteget real youtube views
Is that how it works? How about some crackpot wishing Israel was gone or that Turkey would use the bomb against Israel. Does that slide as well?
ReplyDeleteThe concept of wishing mass murder on a particular race or religion is strictly dependent on the selection of which race is the recipient of your homicidal desire for a final solution? A wish is not a call to do anything? I would suppose that to an English scholar, a man who honors the power of words would take the position that written words matter. Some do and some don’t? How about these words:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Do they mean anything? Is that a wish, a fact; is there validity to any written word? Should someone be responsible for what they write?
I made a statement and an observation about a blogger that routinely gets censored for comments that in my opinion are not worthy of standing. There is a certain amount of pontification by others that I allow another blogger a privilege and a standing, indicated by my decision not to take down his words. I know none of these men except for the words they post on this blog.
One of these men routinely makes charges that the other is a murderer. He bases those charges on what the other has written. When challenged to substantiate the charge, he has to date, failed to respond with evidence. The same man routinely calls me, Rufus, DR, Teresita, Jenny, and others, “anti-Semites.”
He challenged the veracity in my observation that his own writing contained speech that was far worse. We all write stupid things. Mostly, we use common sense and the discretion of the delete button, but spare us the bullshit and the sanctimonious rot.
You have made it clear you wish for Israel and it's people to be destroyed...
DeleteMust have pushed your little button sparkie...
DeleteYour blog is anti-Semitic, it has the thousands of posts to prove it..
Now wiggle in your desperation as for the the toilet you have created.
What is ", there is but on thing to say, about him ...
Delete"He's a one trick pony
One trick is all that horse can do
He does one trick only
It's the principal source of his revenue
And when he steps into the spotlight
You can feel the heat of his heart
Come rising through
See how he dances
See how he loops from side to side
See how he prances
The way his hooves just seem to glide
He's just a one trick pony (that's all he is)
But he turns that trick with pride
He makes it look so easy
He looks so clean
He moves like god's
Immaculate machine
He makes me think about
All of these extra movements I make
And all of this herky-jerky motion
And the bag of tricks it takes
To get me through my working day
One-trick pony
He's a one trick pony
He either fails or he succeeds
He gives his testimony
Then he relaxes in the weeds
He's got one trick to last a lifetime
But that's all a pony needs
(that's all he needs) "
The same man routinely calls me, Rufus, DR, Teresita, Jenny, and others, “anti-Semites.”
DeleteI'm not an anti-Semite. There happen to be some fine Arab Christians in the Levant.
:)
Deleteah, jeez, Miss T
Is this the lesbian Ms T? Or the Man Ms T? Or the fake cancer survivor?
DeleteWho can tell? She was a Lesbian catholic, then a man, then a woman then a cancer victim.
But all the time?
Bashed Israel, Jews and Judaism.
SO deuce gives standing to rat, rat and deuce? bash israel and jews on a hourly basis.
DeleteDeuce and Rat take offense when I LAUGH at the enemies of Israel and the Jews murdering each other.
Too bad.
In the end?
Deuce and Rat and others that support the murder of Jews around the globe, support the destruction of Israel, support the vilification of the Jewish people will have to look in the mirror and get honest about their hatred.
In the end? I will look in the mirror and see what I stand for. And not feel ashamed or guilty that the evil folks of the world that are committed to my "tribe's" existence are destroying one another.
I stand for a strong and secure America and Israel.
I stand for the freedom that both have (or had) within their respective societies.
I stand for the liberty of all citizens of both to live full and productive lives.
Now Rat? Deuce? and others?
They stand for chaos, destruction, antisemitism and genocide.
On a daily basis the sunni and the shia murder one another...
Deleteevery bullet bomb rocket and missile used against each other?
Is one less aimed at a Jew somewhere in this world.
I will pop the corn...
Pass the butter.
“Like a compass needle that points north, a man's accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.”
DeletePaul SimonSat Oct 05, 09:37:00 AM EDT
DeleteWhat is ", there is but on thing to say, about him ...
"He's a one trick pony
One trick is all that horse can do
He does one trick only
It's the principal source of his revenue
And when he steps into the spotlight
You can feel the heat of his heart
Come rising through
See how he dances
See how he loops from side to side
See how he prances
The way his hooves just seem to glide
He's just a one trick pony (that's all he is)
But he turns that trick with pride
He makes it look so easy
He looks so clean
He moves like god's
Immaculate machine
He makes me think about
All of these extra movements I make
And all of this herky-jerky motion
And the bag of tricks it takes
To get me through my working day
One-trick pony
He's a one trick pony
He either fails or he succeeds
He gives his testimony
Then he relaxes in the weeds
He's got one trick to last a lifetime
But that's all a pony needs
(that's all he needs) "
Written and performed by the PROUD Jew and Zionist, Paul Simon
I would challenge to post a copy of a single time i have advocated, called for or approved of the death of an Israeli or a Jew
DeleteJust once it would be refreshing for him to be able to that.
He never has
He never will
Because he cannot..
Those statements do no, have never existed.
quot is familiar with cut and paste, it is just that there is nothing for him to cut and paste that would give credence to his claims.
He mimics the Israeli charges against Iran, here on the blog.
Multiple allegations, made without proof or substantiation
He is a microcosm of the "strong MAN" of Israel, Bibi ...
.......... Dictator of Palestine ..........
Yawn..
Deletethe misdirector speaks..
You are wormtongue.
You misdirect, lie and slander at every turn.
One as un-trustworthy as you? Should seek used car status.
Rat? go muck out a stall, go spy on the AZ FBI, go smoke some pot and shoot some weapons...
DeleteI guess wife #2 ran away also?
Is this the lesbian Ms T? Or the Man Ms T? Or the fake cancer survivor? Who can tell? She was a Lesbian catholic, then a man, then a woman then a cancer victim.
DeleteYou're the only one had the fantasy I was a man. I am a cancer survivor, out 2.5 years. As for lesbian, what happens at CT-T "A" School stays at "A" School.
Never had a "fantasy" that you were a man, you just had a "manly" air about you, even deuce thought you were for a time.
DeleteAs for when you FOOLED everyone (except me, I KNEW you were a fraud) for 2.5 YEARS that you were a lesbian catholic then came clean. Face it. you left in shame that you were liar!
desert ratSat Oct 05, 11:08:00 AM EDT
DeleteI would challenge to post a copy of a single time i have advocated, called for or approved of the death of an Israeli or a Jew
this coming from the blogger than bashes Israel, Jews and Judaism on an hourly basis.
I can picture rat and deuce having a "jew haters/death to israel" meeting and bitching AIPAC won't give them equal time....
Actually, the dope is not a senator but he is still stupid and will regret that showboating. He could not get out of there fast enough after the laid-off worker went at him.
ReplyDeleteSpeedway has gone "full monte" in Illinois with $1.00 Spreads across the board, and prices as low as $2.17/gal.
ReplyDeleteIllinois E85 Prices
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
ReplyDeleteWhat I know for certain is that those words don't mean a thing to Moslems. They mean something to us, but not to them.
Therefore the fewer Moslems with nuclear weapons, the better.
If anyone is going to use them for ill, it would be they.
Now don't take this wrongly, but the fewer of them on earth, the better for everyone else. This is not a call for genocide.
But it is a recognition of the simple fact that something on the order of 90% of the conflicts on earth today involve Moslems.
Their book calls them to violence, continually.
A daily look at JihadWatch should convince nearly everyone of these simple truths, which seem self evident to most.
"“I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one:
DeleteOh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it."
"Is it any more surprising to be born twice than once?"
DeleteVoltaire
"Never under estimate the power of a woman"
ReplyDeleteRomeo
“As usual, there is a great woman behind every idiot.”
Delete"Every good farmer has a woman that puts the hitch pin in"
Deletebobbo
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GALLUP: OBAMA FALLS TO 41%......drudge
President sits for portrait during shutdown.......drudge
O'bungle isn't in Bush territory yet, but he is closing in rapidly.
“Dispute not with her: she is lunatic.”
Delete"When arguing with a woman, give in, and get some sleep"
Deletebobbo
"Never give a rifle to a melancholy bore"
ReplyDeleteW.H. Auden
"Never give a nuke to a Jim Jones Suicide Cult"
bobbo
Which is why Israel should be disarmed.
DeleteThey have elevated their own "Suicide Cult" to an icon worthy of veneration.
Once again the blogger Rat shows his ignorance.
DeleteEven after being correct the ANTI-semite contiunes to rant.
Aint this blog golden?
To whom it may concern, Rat, the blogger actually THINKS Masada was a mass suicide.
DeleteLOL
What a dumb, ignorant person he is.
From that he declares Israel and Jews a "suicide cult"
To bad the most important saying to jews is "to LIFE"
Once again rat proves that he was raised on a worm farm to ignorant to know when he's being exposed a simple bore.
LOL
Thanks once again Rat for showing the world you and this blog are anti-semites.
"desert ratSat Oct 05, 10:46:00 AM EDT
Which is why Israel should be disarmed.
They have elevated their own "Suicide Cult" to an icon worthy of veneration"
White Power? Klan? Neo-Nazi? Who KNOWS for sure...
But we do know, Rat is an anti-semite.
Others say it. Deuce excuses it. Rufus doesnt care. Ms T? A self confessed liar and bigot. And Rat loves it.
Explain yourself, for you cannot.
DeleteThe Israel have elevated cowardice in the face of the enemy to new heights.
Theirs is a social pathology that celebrates death by suicide
Called by any other name, it smells just as foul..
DR,
DeleteFor being cowards of the first water, the Jews have sure won a bunch of wars and brush fires. By the way, the Israeli court decided yesterday that there is no Israeli nationality - ethnically one is a Jew, not an Israeli.
Good. Semite-on-Semite murder-suicide. Faster, please.
DeleteFrom that he declares Israel and Jews a "suicide cult"
DeleteJudges 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.
desert ratSat Oct 05, 11:13:00 AM EDT
DeleteExplain yourself, for you cannot.
The Israel have elevated cowardice in the face of the enemy to new heights.
Theirs is a social pathology that celebrates death by suicide
Called by any other name, it smells just as foul..
Oh rat I shall not do your homework you lazy anti-semite...
Go and learn, crack open that closed thing you call a MIND and do some research beyond wikipedia and google!
Try a library or a BOOK...
LOL what a LAZY anti-semite.
No I shall not explain to you what is OBVIOUS to those that know.
You are like a 2nd grader taking math and explaining calculus to the Professor.
You (in a language you understand) are one DUMB, ignorant fucker...
DeleteTeresitaSat Oct 05, 11:26:00 AM EDT
From that he declares Israel and Jews a "suicide cult"
Judges 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.
Actually wrong fake lesbian. He was referencing Masada.
But if you wish to PROOF TEXT the Hebrew Scriptures please do not use snippets.
It just shows why you are ignorant of the Hebrew Scriptures....
desert ratSat Oct 05, 11:13:00 AM EDT
DeleteExplain yourself, for you cannot.
The Israel have elevated cowardice in the face of the enemy to new heights.
Theirs is a social pathology that celebrates death by suicide
Called by any other name, it smells just as foul..
to Life...
LOL
Ignorant snit...
desert ratSat Oct 05, 11:13:00 AM EDT
DeleteExplain yourself, for you cannot.
The Israel have elevated cowardice in the face of the enemy to new heights.
Theirs is a social pathology that celebrates death by suicide
Called by any other name, it smells just as foul..
So says the guy who claims not to be an anti-semite.
LOL
How's that SS uniform of your fitting these days Rat?
TeresitaSat Oct 05, 11:19:00 AM EDT
DeleteGood. Semite-on-Semite murder-suicide. Faster, please.
Technically the Iranians are persians and the Pakistanis are not semites.
So I'd keep it as Moslem on Moslem Murder. Which you are now cheerleading also..
Deuce say that snippet for your those who cheer of the murder of moslem on moslem comments.
"TeresitaSat Oct 05, 11:19:00 AM EDT
Good. Semite-on-Semite murder-suicide. Faster, please."
TeresitaSat Oct 05, 11:26:00 AM EDT
DeleteFrom that he declares Israel and Jews a "suicide cult"
Judges 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.
Now to examine the out of contact quote you quoted:
TeresitaSat Oct 05, 11:26:00 AM EDT
From that he declares Israel and Jews a "suicide cult"
Judges 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.
Hardly sounds like a "suicide cult". Sounds like one man taking out the enemy who was committed to his and his people's destruction.
Unless you do not think it's acceptable to kill those attempting to kill you?
How does a reformed ex-lesbian catholic explain this?
How does someone who for 3 year lied about who and what they are have any credibility ever again? lesbian catholic? Cancer victim?
WHo know?
Man, woman? transgender? Who knows?
Ms T, Teresita and so many other names we lost track of... So many "take my name off the blog roll" and screams and screed about leaving...
It seems undeniably clear, the Republicans in Congress have turned their back to the people.
ReplyDeleteThey call it "Leadership"
Just 17% of the country–the lowest approval rating in Quinnipiac University’s polling–approved of the way GOP lawmakers are dealing with current issues, and 74% disapproved, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday.
Americans were against a government shutdown as a way to stop the president’s health care law from taking effect 72 percent to 22 percent in a Quinnipiac poll.
DeleteThe more than three-to-one ratio was despite a near even split on Obamacare itself, with 45 percent support to 47 percent opposition.
What's often overlooked is, if you add the number of people that think Obamacare should have "gone farther" to the "support" column, it's closer to 56 - 36.
DeleteIt seems undeniably clear, the Democrats in Congress have turned their back to the people.
DeleteThey call it "Leadership".
Meanwhile Prince Obama sits for his portrait, and has his nails done, and the old soldiers can't visit their memorials.
John Boehner overtaking Harry Reid as the least popular congressional leader.
Delete"Old Soldiers" do Not have the right to break the law.
DeleteThe Republicans refused to fund the government, and the Parks and Memorials had to be shut down. What is so hard to understand about that?
And, NO, you cannot fund the government, piecemeal. That way lies "anarchy."
DeleteAnd, you cannot have one set of laws for "old soldiers," and another set of laws for everyone else.
DeleteO horse manure, Rufus.
DeleteYou can fund the government, or parts of it, anyway you want. It's done every year.
How hard is it, as Jenny asked, to keep a cemetery open?
The good news in all of this is that since the National Parks seem to be closed, Smokey the Bear cannot proselytize for Islam for the duration.
DeleteWhat will Smokey the Bear do now, eat berries? Fight forest fires?
Rufus IISat Oct 05, 10:54:00 AM EDT
DeleteAnd, you cannot have one set of laws for "old soldiers," and another set of laws for everyone else.
Sure you can, or we wouldn't have National Cemeteries for the War Dead in the first place.
You're not awake yet this morning.
The government has been running on continuing resolutions for ages. When did last the President sign a budget?
DeleteEver since Boner enacted "No Budget No Congressional Pay".
Delete1997
DeleteWP: The spending bill for the remainder of the fiscal year, the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013, was passed by the Senate 73–26 on March 20, 2013,[24] by the House the following day in a 318-109 vote, and signed by President Obama on March 26, 2013.
DeleteSo it's just a quibble about whether it's one bill or two.
Delete"We are hyper-dimensional beings of some sort, and we cast a shadow into materiality, and that shadow is our body"
ReplyDeleteTerrence McKenna, deceased?
Hyper-dimensions probably don't exist, Bob. I haven't heard any radio stations broadcasting from there.
Delete"Probably"?
DeletePlato said they did.
Your radio isn't tuned in right.
John Boehner overtaking Harry Reid as the least popular congressional leader.
ReplyDeleteA 9-point drop in the percentage of people wanting full repeal of Obamacare, down on 30 from 39.
ReplyDelete- A 53–41 margin in favor of keeping the law, versus repealing it.
The Party of Stupid ...
Unca 'hani gets chewed out by Supreme Leader for chatting with O'bungle......"not appropriate"
ReplyDeletehttp://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/05/irans-supreme-leader-criticizes-rouhani-for-chatting-with-obama/
Just letting everyone know it's Master Blaster runs Bartertown.
DeleteIran has already started game playing. By the time of the Sunday talk shows, Kerry will be out telling the media that Iran is really sincere...really...Really...REALLY!
ReplyDelete...right...
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-leader-hints-disapproval-over-obama-call-092854602.html
Par for the course.
DeleteOur Israeli-Firsters seek hints from the other side ...
Hints that would validate their own obstruction of the process.
The Israeli do no hint, they make BOLD statements
Because their leader, he is a "strong MAN" ...
Which is just another name for a Dictator ...
Bibi Netanyahu - Dictator of Palestine
Iran better bust a move, before the adults get back in charge 2017.
DeleteThe Iranians have plenty of time ...
DeleteTime, Time, Time, it's on their side ....
The Israeli are being played for fools.
Their fear of Iran has put them in bed with the Saudi Arabians.
Using their air force to aid al-Qeada in Syria.
If GW Bush were still President we'd "Shock and Awe" Tel Aviv.
Israel is now a sponsor of international terrorists.
Using overt military operations in their support.
It is an undeniable reality.
And that's all well and good, as long as they don't do it on my military aid dime.
DeleteHillary will not bust a cap on the Iranians
DeleteThere is no military solution to the "Iranian Problem"
The Middle East, mimicking Europe of 1932, not 1938
International sanctions on Germany had driven it to economic ruin.
They had no where else to go, but the extremes.
The "Western Hegemony" had left the German no other options.
Undeniable to you, DR.
DeleteIranian obfuscation is being reported by mainstream media, not Israeli.
But the Israeli do spend YOUR foreign aid money in support al-Qeada in Syria.
DeleteThey are more than just a state sponsor of terror, in Syria.
Dropping the bombs, themselves
The NYTimes, allen, or was it Dan Rather?
DeleteThe Germans were part of the West. Indeed, culturally the Germans were considered the most advanced people in the West.
DeleteNietzsche was pietzche but Sartre was smartre.
Delete
DeleteGermany from 1924 through 1948 was not part of the Western Hegmony, allen.
They may have been "Western" geographically, they may have been Western culturally, but they were being exploited by the Hegemony, none the less.
Germany, the Wiemar Republic was not part of the Western political power structure, it was a target of it.
Economic sanctions and reparations had bankrupted the country.
Giving rise to an authoritative regime that led to bad things for the rest of Europe.
The analogy of the Middle East to Europe, does not start in 1938.
It starts before, with the Treaty of Versailles.
The attempt to "humble" Germany.
Poor, poor Germany. And all they did was try to overrun Europe and Russia on two fronts and sink Entente shipping.
DeleteThat is true enough, Ms T, about the Germans.
DeleteBut the Iranians have done none of those type of things.
The Iranians have not tried to overrun Afghanistan, Iraq, or Pakistan.
it is their shipping that is being harassed on the high seas.
Iran is being squeezed by the wester hegemony, just as Germany was after 1924 without ...
........... "Just Cause"
TeresitaSat Oct 05, 11:33:00 AM EDT
DeleteAnd that's all well and good, as long as they don't do it on my military aid dime.
Actually you suck off the tit of the taxpayer. Your money is what we PAY you...
In fact, most of the aid comes to the USA and is spent, I wonder how much money your earn that is PAID by the Israeli government?????
desert ratSat Oct 05, 11:17:00 AM EDT
DeleteBibi Netanyahu - Dictator of Palestine
Yep losing it while we watch.
Losing it?
DeleteHe moved over into the 'lost it' category long ago, IMHO.
To be fair, the Iranian leadership has a very difficult problem. What kind of support would an American politician have in dealing with a superior power (if it existed) that was trying to destroy the American banking system, was wrecking the economic life of our country, was surrounding us with military bases, ships and plains and routinely talked about warring against us?
ReplyDeleteThat would not make for a successful politician. Obama understands that and so does Kerry. The US people and the Iranian people must get used to the idea that a political reconciliation is in their interest and possible. Political opportunists in the US and Iran are lined up to destroy those politicians that try to mend normal relationships. That is the nature of politics.
There is no benefit to either Iran or the US not having normal relationships. It is in Israel’s real interests to have the US and Iran have normal relationships. Most intelligent Israelis, other than right wing zionists and religious fanatics know it. There is a significant Israeli population that objects to how the religious right in Israel has maneuvered the Israel into the position of lesser standing that it has in the World.
They write opinions in Haaretz and are called self-hating Jews by the dudes in black who have no skin in the IDF game because they're doing more important things, like memorizing the Qu'ran, er, Torah.
DeleteWhen did a US representative threaten Iran with war? US presidents have routinely warned against Iran's effort to develop a weapons grade nuclear program.
DeleteIf you will check the record, you will find that it is Iran that has done the threatening.
There is no doubt that Iran will need nuclear energy in the future. They do not need nuclear weapons until they prove themselves capable of some self-discipline in their rhetoric (something near and dear to Deuce's heart).
You don't get to tell sovereign nations whether or not they "need" to get this or that weapon. The United States is not the center of a world government.
DeleteThe US leaves ...
DeleteAll Options on the Table
While it strangles Iran, economically
I can go find the references to "Cut and paste",
It could take all of a minute to verify, ratify the statement made
;-)
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DeleteOne man's Euphemism is another man's Threat
DeleteAll Iran's Abracadabra feller wanted to do, was to emulate Winston Churchill ...
Delete... wishing to redraw the map of the Middle East.
Well, that was all he said, he wanted.
He did not have any options available to him, when it came to fulfillment of his "wish"
So ...
There was no desire to kill Israeli, or to drop a bomb on the Dome of the Rock.
Just a non-violent redrawing of a map.
We'll be using using the quot standard, from now on, when threats of death and mayhem are discussed.
;-)
No more "reading between the lines" to discover intent.
Deletequot says it is not "fair", when it is done to him
While it is a standard operating procedure, for him to do to others
quot, of course, being a microcosm, an illustration as it were of Israeli policy toward others
Sure sounded like a threat to me
DeleteWashington - On Saturday (Sept. 22) the U.S. Senate voted 90 to 1 to pass a non-binding resolution that would prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. The lone senator voting against the resolution was Rand Paul, son of Ron Paul the well-known libertarian.
Rand Paul argued that the resolution was de-facto a declaration that the U.S. would wage a pre-emptive war. The resolution was introduced months ago by three senators: Lindsey Graham, Bob Casey and Joe Lieberman.
The Joint Resolution 41 rejects any U.S. policy "that would rely on efforts to contain a nuclear-weapons-capable Iran". Senator Richard Blumenthal said in Senate::
“We know that Iran would create access for terrorists – access for them – to these nuclear weapons, making the Middle East a nuclear tinbox. We cannot trust this regime. We know that fact beyond any potential doubt.”
The bill itself claims that it should not be misinterpreted as endorsing military force. However, Paul argues that the resolution would lead to war eventually and in effect endorses a pre-emptive war against Iran. No doubt defenders of the bill will say that the resolution simply states that an offensive pre-emptive attack against Iran is a viable option. However it goes further than that. The resolution implies that if other methods do not prevent Iran from being nuclear capable then there will be a pre-emptive war because the U.S. will not follow a policy of containment.
Paul said in Senate:
“A vote for this resolution is a vote for the concept of pre-emptive war.”
While the resolution does not directly call for military intervention it does imply that if other methods do not work that the U.S. would intervene militarily since it would refuse to adopt a policy of trying to contain a nuclear capable Iran. The resolution does not even speak of rejecting a policy of containing Iran if it had nuclear weapons but of rejecting such a policy even if Iran only had a nuclear weapons capability.
Since Iran is not attacking the U.S. or even threatening a first strike, Paul seems correct that the resolution puts Iran on notice that the U.S is willing to engage in a pre-emptive war against it. This is a direct threat to Iran and, to follow U.S. logic, Iran would be quite justified in attacking first! This would be a pre-emptive war in self defense.
This resolution comes just as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been pressing the U.S. to draw a red line which, if crossed, would lead the U.S. to military action against Iran. This resolution perhaps is not immediate enough to suit Netanyahu but it does imply that if other tactics do not work the U.S. would wage a pre-emptive attack even if Iran were just capable of making nuclear weapons.
Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/333417#ixzz2grdNuMvn
Yep Deuce's position on Iran is as follows:
DeleteIran GOOD
Israel and America BAD.
desert ratSat Oct 05, 11:55:00 AM EDT
DeleteThe US leaves ...
All Options on the Table
While it strangles Iran, economically
All the while the Arab boycott of Israel is in it's 60th year.
Oh and the iranian boycott and supporting proxies to murder Israelis and jews
DeleteIran: our ally in the war against al-Qaeda and the Taliban
ReplyDeleteIran has always been an enemy of the Taliban in Afghanistan. Obama and Brown must throw off the influence of the neocons and enlist their help
BY NEIL CLARK LAST UPDATED AT 18:59 ON MON 13 JUL 2009
No Western leaders have yet congratulated President Ahmadinejad on his controversial election victory in Iran. But among the list of leaders who have done so is a name than many will find surprising: President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan.
Karzai telephoned Ahmadinejad to congratulate him on his victory, saying that relations between Afghanistan and its Western neighbour had "expanded" during Ahmadinejad's time in office and that he hoped ties would continue to strengthen.
You won't read too much about it in the mainstream Western media, but the truth is that in a battle which the US President and British Prime Minister repeatedly tell us is fundamental to our own security - Iran is on 'our' side.
In 2003, under pressure from neocons, Bush cancelled co-operation with Iran
Shia Iran's opposition to the Sunni fundamentalists of the Taliban is longstanding - in fact, over the past 20 years or so, it's fair to say that Iran has been more consistently and firmly opposed to the Taliban than the United States.
After the Taliban took power in 1996, Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, denounced the group as an affront to Islam, and the killing of 11 Iranian diplomats and truck drivers in 1998 almost led to an Iranian invasion of Afghanistan, which was averted by the intervention of the US and UN.
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After 9/11, Iran played a key role in the toppling of the Taliban and participated with the US and other Western countries on post-war planning for Afghanistan. Iran's contribution to the anti-Taliban struggle was acknowledged by US officials: James Dobbins, who worked with diplomats from Iran and other neigbours of Afghanistan to create the first post-Taliban government, said that the Iranians were the "most active" of the foreign backers of the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, while Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said that two days before the fall of Kabul, there were places in Afghanistan "where there are some Iranian liaison people, as well as some American liaison people" working with the same Afghan forces.
But in May 2003, under pressure from the neocons, President Bush cancelled co-operation with Iran.
Since then, US officials have claimed that Iran is actually working against Western interests in Afghanistan and has been aiding the Taliban. But hard evidence to support these claims has proved as elusive as Iraqi WMD. The allegations of US officials have been refuted by those closest to the action - like General Dan McNeill, the former top US commander in Afghanistan, who said there was "no information to support" the assertion that Iran had provided weapons to the Taliban.
In fact, Iran's line on the Taliban remains as uncompromising as ever. Only last October, Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki warned the West not to hold talks with the Taliban: "We advise them to think about the consequences of the talks... which are taking place in the region and in Europe and avoid being bitten in the same spot twice."
Neocons have managed to conflate Israel’s enemies with those of the West
So why if Iran is on 'our side' in the war against the Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan, does the West remain so hostile to Tehran? The answer, of course, is the enduring influence of the neocons, who see the world through a pro-Israeli prism.
Iran is opposed to the Taliban and it is certainly no friend of al-Qaeda. But because of its sponsorship of Hamas and Hezbollah, it is deemed by the 'Israel-firstists' to be public enemy number one. The neocons have successfully managed to conflate Israel's perceived enemies with those of the West: Iran is seen as a threat to Israeli hegemony in the Middle East, therefore it's a threat to the US and Britain.
They've also managed to spin the myth of a coherent and unified Islamic network of terror, which includes Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria, the Taliban and al-Qaeda - and before 2003, Saddam Hussein's Iraq, too. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claims: "These terrorist states and terror organisations together form a terror network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as well as politically."
Bowing to neocon and Zionist pressure to isolate Iran is undoubtedly hampering Western efforts in Afghanistan. Enlisting the Islamic Republic's support in the battle against the Taliban is no guarantee of success - but it would certainly increase the chances.
Last weekend, we heard that Iran was preparing a new package of "political, security and international" issues to put to the West. It's highly likely that Afghanistan will be among the issues covered in that package and that there will an offer of Iranian co-operation in return for concessions on the country's nuclear energy programme.
The pro-Israeli lobby will do all it can to get the proposals rejected; but if, as Obama, Brown et al state, it is really true that the war against the Taliban is fundamental to our national security, and that it is a conflict that must be won, then Western leaders would be wise to give them the most serious consideration. ·
Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/21359/iran-our-ally-war-against-al-qaeda-and-taliban#ixzz2grYfYlBl
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ReplyDeleteI made a statement and an observation about a blogger that routinely gets censored for comments that in my opinion are not worthy of standing. There is a certain amount of pontification by others that I allow another blogger a privilege and a standing, indicated by my decision not to take down his words.
We all write stupid things. Mostly, we use common sense and the discretion of the delete button, but spare us the bullshit and the sanctimonious rot.
Are the pontification, bullshit, and sanctimonious rot comments directed at me and my post yesterday?
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I would end to doubt it, Q.
Delete;-)
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Delete"Are the pontification, bullshit, and sanctimonious rot comments directed at me and my post yesterday?"
DeleteNo, but otherwise your point is well taken.
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DeleteI would have had to quibble with the word sanctimonious, that is being hypocritically pious or devout. Not that I am not at times. I do have a tendency to shoot from the hip. However, after a few moments, I usually come to my senses and I am one of the most frequent users of the delete button here.
Bullshit? I've been a bullshitter all my life. No complaint there.
I also have no problem with the word pontificating. Heck, when you are always right like me, it's a necessary evil.
:)
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The simple answer is NO.
ReplyDelete.
DeleteFine. I was up to four this morning. Now I can go back to sleep.
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Which comment are you talking about?
ReplyDeleteThis has been going on waaaay before you got here. I forget who exactly, but someone gave me a lecture that my not banning DR caused Buddy Larsen to leave.
ReplyDeleteYou’re a big boy Q. I will have at least two bowls of Cheerios before I lock horns with you and it would be direct.
Buddy Larsen came and told us I had been correct concerning the discussions and disagreements we had about Iraq, way back in the BC days.
DeleteIt was kind of a humbling experience, really.
Left me speechless.
Yes, he did. He apologized to you, called me brutally honest and wished us well. It was gracious and humbling.
DeleteI forgot about that. It was quite stunning.
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This is how Islam handles Jews, even if there are none.
ReplyDeleteThe two great Muslim edifices on the temple mount remain unmolested. What a difference culture makes.
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Report-Indonesias-last-synagogue-destroyed-327907
Synagogues were kind of an ad hoc solution to the Temple being destroyed. I doubt if YMMV ever signed off on the congregation having them.
Deleteyep the Jewish Temple, in our HISTORIC Capital Jerusalem.
DeleteDestroyed 2 times by invading assholes.
but thanks for reminding us of WHY Jerusalem belongs to the Jews.
DeleteEven if you kick the Moose Limbs out and rebuild it, you'll never get a Pillar-of-smoke style consecration from YMMV due to the post-Calvary situation viz a viz animal sacrifices.
DeleteOn its 60th anniversary, Israel is still concerned about survival. Even with nuclear weapons and the strongest military in the Middle East, the Jewish state remains anxious. Iranian leaders are similarly concerned about the future of their administration, even as the country approaches the 30th anniversary of its Islamic Revolution.
ReplyDeleteIsrael fears any potential threat, whether it comes from Hamas, Hezbollah, or political Islamic groups. Israel also has begun to fear its shifting demographics, where birth rates are significantly higher among Palestinians than Jews. But above all, Israel perceives a threat from Iran.
In a similar vein, Iran is threatened by an outside force that would roll back its revolution. The religious conservatives in Iran are resistant to perceived reformists, which at various times have been supported by the United States, and stands alone as one of the only Shia majority countries in the region.
Yet the conservatives of Iran, heirs to Ayatollah Khomeini's Islamic Revolution, also face the possibility of seeing their regime replaced by the followers of former Iranian president Mohammad Khatami.
Iran and Israel share a sense of isolation: Israel is comprised of an ethnic and religious minority (Jewish) in a largely Arab and Muslim Middle East. Likewise, Iran's government is an ethno-religious minority (Shi'a Persians) surrounded by Sunni countries.
Few know that Iran is home to the largest number of Jews in the Middle East outside of Israel. There are 80 synagogues (11 of them in Tehran), many with Hebrew schools. And over 25,000 Jews, most of whom are determined to remain, because they are as proud of their Iranian culture as they are of their Jewish roots.
Iran and Israel should stop writing the narrative of the other as "enemy". Ahmadinejad is perceived by Israel as a threat, while Israel's extremists believe that the world's evil emanates from Iran.
These views are too black and white, and too polarising.
"...today's 'secular' Israeli women show a fertility rate of 2.6 (European birth rates are about 1.5)...from 1994 to 2009...the number of Arab births in Israel remained stable at 39,000, while Jewish births rose from 80,000 to 120,000..." *
DeleteHOW CIVILIZATIONS DIE (2011). Goodman. pp 200 - 201
*ultra-Orthodox fertility rate = 8.5
...appreciate the comment...
yep those 100,000 hezbollah rockets funded and supplied by Iran are love rockets.
DeleteI will repeat myself, for hose among you of limited reading skills or comprehension
ReplyDeleteIran is home to the largest number of Jews in the Middle East outside of Israel. There are 80 synagogues (11 of them in Tehran), many with Hebrew schools. And over 25,000 Jews, most of whom are determined to remain, because they are as proud of their Iranian culture as they are of their Jewish roots
Thank you for your time
Good luck Anthony, the American public is clueless about Iran other than what the propaganda.
DeleteMore Iranian Jews live in LA today.
DeleteJews numbered in the middle east around (not counting Israel) 850,000 in 1948.
DeleteToday there are 25k jews left in Iran.
A rounding error of population compared to the 2500 years previous.
Judaism is among the oldest religions practiced in Iran and the Biblical Book of Esther contains references to the experiences of the Jews in Persia. Jews have had a continuous presence in Iran since the time of Cyrus the Great of the Achaemenid Empire. Cyrus invaded Babylon and freed the Jews from Babylonian captivity.
DeleteAccording to the Tehran Jewish Committee, the Jewish population of Iran was estimated at about 25,000 to 35,000, of which approximately 15,000 are in Tehran with the rest residing in Hamadan, Shiraz, Isfahan, Kermanshah, Yazd, Kerman, Rafsanjan, Borujerd, Sanandaj and Urmia.[6][7][when?] However, the official 2011 state census recorded only 8,756 Jews in Iran.[3]
So Iran says only 8,756
In 1979, there were about 100,000 Jews living in Iran.
DeleteThere were approximately 9,000,000 Copts is Egypt at the time of the Muslim conquest. Today, there are about 4.3 million (according to Pew). As a percentage of modern Egypt's population, Copts went from 8.3% (1927) to 5.3% (2006).
Again, thank you for your input.
Wow if Iran is so great?
DeleteIsrael[edit]
The largest group of Persian Jews is found in Israel. As of 2007, Israel is home to just over 47,000 Iranian-born Jews and roughly 87,000 Israeli-born Jews with fathers born in Iran.[10] While these numbers add up to about 135,000, when Israelis with more distant or solely maternal Iranian roots are included the total number of Persian Jews in Israel is estimated to be between 200,000[1]-250,000.[2]
Why are there so many Iranian Jews that fled to be in Israel?
The United States[edit]
DeleteThe United States is home to 60,000–80,000 Iranian Jews,
If Iran treats Jews so well why do the Iranian Jews of the United States not go home?
In 1948?
DeleteIran's Jewish population was reduced from 100,000–150,000 in 1948
Yep ethnically cleansed
Most Iranian Jews say that they view Iran as their home and are allowed to practice Judaism freely, while living in fear that their telephones are tapped.[
DeleteWell that sounds like America under Obama
Aside from these reasons, in light of the discrimination still heavily felt[84] and the death sentence given to Iranians promoting immigration[85] it is clear that a life threat to family members is a major reason for many of the Iranian Jews still staying there
Deleteyep you leave, we kill your remaining family..
Mafia, Iranian style
Iran has executed an Israeli-born Jewish woman along with her Armenian Christian husband.
Deletehttp://www.barenakedislam.com/2011/05/19/jewish-woman-hanged-in-iran/
Living free and Jewish in Iran..
But don't listen to the propaganda
this is really old... 1998
DeleteElderly Iranian Jew
Executed For Helping Jews Escape
A 60-year-old Jewish man was hanged in Iran last week, presumably for his assistance to Jews fleeing Iran, Yediot Aharonot reported on June 8, 1998. The man, from the Kathodzada family, was a member of Teheran's Jewish community and was known for assisting Jews in distress.
The man disappeared last month, and his family was notified of his execution by Iranian government officials last week. The authorities failed to give any explanation for the execution.
At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution 19 years ago, most of them for either religious reasons or their connection to Israel.
An even more pertinent question ...
DeleteWhy don't those Iranian Jews in the US move to Israel?
Probably for the same reasons six million US Jews do not emigrate to Israel..
The obvious because the US is a better place to live than either Iran or Israel, dimwit.
Middle Eastern countries suck
They are all more authoritative than the US.
None are as welcoming to immigrants as the US
So Iran says only 8,756
DeleteThey also say zero gays and lesbians, so go figure.
Desert rat wrote, "None are as welcoming to immigrants as the US."
DeleteDidn't you tell us just a few days ago that Israeli operatives were attempting to convince American Jews to make aliyah through the use of unpatriotic billboards? The fact is, DR, Israel welcomes with open arms any Jew from anywhere. Why, Israel has even brought in thousands of Jews from Ethiopia, India, and Africa. This behavior does not connote xenophobia or bigotry. As to non-Jews, the Druze and Bedouins are living quite comfortably in Israel. They even serve in the IDF.
for my republican friends:
ReplyDelete<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/05/i-am-obamacare-_n_4046470.html'>Obamacare horror stories</a>
Obamacare horror stories
DeleteMoney for nothing, the Federal Way forward.
ReplyDeleteAs the fifth day of the federal government shutdown began, members of the House came together in a moment of rare bipartisanship to pass a bill, by a vote of 407 to 0, approving back pay for furloughed government workers.
Now let's see if the Senate approves it and Obama signs it, considering that it doesn't fund the ACA.
DeleteInternational sanctions on Germany had driven it to economic ruin.
ReplyDeleteThey had no where else to go, but the extremes.
The "Western Hegemony" had left the German no other options.
Absolute nonsense.
They paid practically zero on the war reparations debt. What they did pay we loaned to them.
You are the most ill read stupid stooge on the whole interenet.
References, please, Anonymous.
DeleteAnonymous posters have no credibility without references.
Just go really read about it yourself. I'm going to a Chinese Restaurant with my wife.
DeleteWhen I have time maybe I'll post something about that, if it doesn't slip my mind.
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DeleteGet lei'd right off the plane.
DeleteIn full retreat from the Truth, Anonymous sought refuge in the farthest reaches of American Empire ...
Delete... in its holdings in Polynesia.
But it was not far enough ...
The world wide web made his escape from reality impossible.
Reparations were the payments required by the Treaty of Versailles, by which Germany had to pay to repair all the damage of the war.
ReplyDeleteTo the victors, it seemed fair.
Germany had caused – and in Clause 231 had accepted the blame for – the war. So German should pay for the damage. In addition, to fighting the war, the French and British had borrowed money which they would be repaying for a long time.
Why shouldn’t Germany pay out too?
The first problem, however, was that it was very difficult to work out the cost of the damage the war had done.
France wanted a very high figure. Wilson and Lloyd George wanted less.
In 1919, reparations of £1 billion were suggested.
During 1920, the figure was raised to £4½ billion, and then to £12½ billion!
Eventually, in April 1921, the League of Nations agreed a sum of £6.6 billion – in installments, until 1984 – and defeated Germany had to agree to pay.
Even at the time, economists like JM Keynes said that reparations would ruin, not only Germany, but the world economy.
Germany had lost her richest farmland (West Prussia) and the Saar coalfields.
Its economy had been damaged by the war.
It couldn’t stand large payments of gold leaving Germany every six months.
In July 1922, there was an economic crisis, and Germany was granted a six-month delay in payments.
But when the German government failed to make its January 1923 payment...
French and Belgian troops invaded the Ruhr, and began to take in kind what they were owed.
German miners in the Ruhr refused to work for the French and went on strike, which created hyperinflation.
Germany began to fall apart, and there were revolutions in the Rhineland and (led by Adolf Hitler) in Bavaria.
In the meantime, because they weren’t getting German reparation payments, Britain and France defaulted on their loans to the United States.
Where is your version of history, Anonymous?
DeleteWho had the chutzpah to publish the lies you spew?
Police Remove Vietnam Vets at Memorial Wall...drudge
ReplyDeleteThe Vietnam veterans should have stood their ground. Imagine the spectacle of police manhandling disabled veterans. Sadly, a golden opportunity lost...kinda like the war...
DeleteUnfortunately all the tunesmiths who came up with "Four Dead In O Hi O" and the like are on the side of the police this time.
DeleteWe are planning a gathering this weekend in Lexington and Concord at the national park that the administration has shut to score political points. Please help us to get the word out.
ReplyDeleteWhere: Minute Man National Historic Park
When: Sunday October 6th at noon
Why: they have closed this heritage site to the public because of the government shutdown.....we will see about that!
Please get the word out!
Sincerely,
Paul Revere
War makes strange bedfellows, to desert rat's consternation.
ReplyDeleteThe NAZI and Soviet formed a non-aggression treaty, which perplexed many Germans given Hitler's volcanic rhetoric condemning "Jew-Bolsheviks". Among other things, the treaty had the objective of partitioning Poland, Hitler would get half and Stalin would get half. On 1 Sep 1939, Germany invaded Poland. The Soviet was not far behind.
For Germany's aggression, the UK and France declared war on Germany. They did not declare war on Germany's ally the CCCP.
In 1941, Germany broke its treaty with the Soviet and attacked. Almost immediately, Stalin was accepted by the UK and Free French as an ally. With Germany's declaration of war against the US in Dec 1941, the US also accepted the Soviet as an ally.
Saudi Arabia has a sizable Shia population that just happens to live in areas containing Saudi Arabia's most productive petroleum plants. Since Iran has been vocal in its desire to see the Kingdom fall, the Saudis are, naturally, apprehensive. Since Iran has been even more vituperous in its rhetoric toward Israel, the Israelis are, naturally, apprehensive. The mutual apprehension of both countries makes them unwilling, but nonetheless, de facto allies.
War makes strange bedfellows.
What consternation, allen?
DeleteHistory does not dismay.
It instructs.
Germany and the Soviets ... back in the day
instructive when viewing the alliance of ...
Saudi Arabia and Israel
The similarities certainly not consternating ...
.... they are much more adequately describe as enlightening.
Perhaps you are "projecting" your feelings of dismay, aye?