Armed agents seize records of reporter, Washington Times prepares legal action
By Guy Taylor
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Friday, October 25, 2013
Maryland state police and federal agents used a search warrant in an unrelated criminal investigation to seize the private reporting files of an award-winning former investigative journalist for The Washington Times who had exposed problems in the Homeland Security Department's Federal Air Marshal Service.
Reporter Audrey Hudson said the investigators, who included an agent for Homeland's Coast Guard service, took her private notes and government documents that she had obtained under the Freedom of Information Act during a predawn raid of her family home on Aug. 6.
The documents, some which chronicled her sources and her work at the Times about problems inside the Homeland Security Department, were seized under a warrant to search for unregistered firearms and a "potato gun" suspected of belonging to her husband, Paul Flanagan, a Coast Guard employee. Mr. Flanagan has not been charged with any wrongdoing since the raid.
The warrant, obtained by the Times, offered no specific permission to seize reporting notes or files.
The Washington Times said Friday it is preparing legal action to fight what it called an unwarranted intrusion on the First Amendment.
"While we appreciate law enforcement's right to investigate legitimate concerns, there is no reason for agents to use an unrelated gun case to seize the First Amendment protected materials of a reporter," Times Editor John Solomon said. "This violates the very premise of a free press, and it raises additional concerns when one of the seizing agencies was a frequent target of the reporter's work.
"Homeland's conduct in seizing privileged reporters notes and Freedom of Information Act documents raises serious Fourth Amendment issues, and our lawyers are preparing an appropriate legal response," he said.
Maryland State Police declined comment, except to say that "evidence and information developed during this investigation is currently under review by both the Anne Arundel County State's Attorney's Office and the United State's Attorney's Office," and that a determination has yet to be made on any charges.
The U.S. Coast Guard confirmed it seized and reviewed Ms. Hudson's documents but insisted it did nothing wrong.
Capt. Tony Hahn, a spokesman at Coast Guard headquarters in Washington, said the Coast Guard Investigative Service (CGIS) was involved in the case because Mrs. Hudson's husband, Mr. Flanagan, is a Coast Guard employee.
During the search of the home, said Capt. Hahn, "the CGIS agent discovered government documents labeled 'FOUO' — For Official Use Only and 'LES' — Law Enforcement Sensitive."
"The files that contained these documents were cataloged on the search warrant inventory and taken from the premises," he said. "The documents were reviewed with the source agency and determined to be obtained properly through the Freedom of Information Act."
Ms. Hudson described a harrowing ordeal the morning her family home was raided.
The agents, who had arrived a 4:30 a.m. in full body armor, collected several small arms during the raid, although no charges have been filed against Mr. Flanagan, 54, during the nearly three months since.
Mrs. Hudson, 50, says that while the authorities were raiding her house, Coast Guard investigator Miguel Bosch — who formerly worked at the marshal service — began asking questions about whether she was the same "Audrey Hudson" who had written "the air marshal stories" for The Washington Times. Mrs. Hudson says she responded that she was.
It was not until roughly a month later, Mrs. Hudson says, that she realized the agents had quietly seized five files from her private office — including handwritten and typed notes from interviews with numerous confidential sources related to her exclusive reporting on the air marshals service.
The search warrant for the raid, issued to Maryland State Trooper Victor Hodgin by a district court judge, made no reference to the documents. A copy obtained by The Times indicates that the search was to be narrowly focused on the pursuit of "firearms" and their "accessories and/or parts," as well as any communications that that might be found in Mrs. Hudson and Mrs. Flanagan's home related to "the acquisition of firearms or accessories."
David W. Fischer, a private attorney contacted by the couple, says that the raid is a potential violation of Mrs. Hudson's constitutional rights.
"Obviously, the warrant is about a gun, nothing about reporters notes," he said. "It would be a blatant constitutional violation to take that stuff if the search warrant didn't specifically say so."
"This is a situation where they picked very specifically through her stuff and took documents that the Coast Guard, or the Department of Homeland Security, would be very interested in," he added.
The raid could constitute illegal search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment -- and the fact that the materials were related to her work as a reporter could First Amendment freedom of the press protections.
Once the documents had been "cleared," Homeland decided to return the documents to Mr. Flanagan and Mrs. Hudson, Capt. Hahn said.
The Coast Guard, like the Federal Air Marshal Service is an agency within the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.
A Reporter's Word
What concerns Mrs. Hudson and The Times is the fact that private reporting documents were seized during the search being conducted on totally unrelated grounds.
While Mr. Flanagan has a police record from the mid-1980s related to the unlawful possession of firearms, including automatic weapons, Mrs. Hudson fears her private documents may have been the real target of the search.
"They tore my office apart more than any other room in my house," she said, adding agents did not take other potentially non-TSA-related documents from the office.
"I had a box full of [Department of Defense] notes," she said. "They didn't touch those."
Some of the files included notes that she had used to expose how the Federal Air Marshal Service had lied to Congress during the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks about the number of airline flights that the service was actually protecting against another terrorist attack.
A story written by Mrs. Hudson for The Times in March 2005, revealed how air marshals were protecting less than 10 percent of domestic and international flights during the month of December 2004, and that the number of flights Homeland Security officials were providing to Congress was higher than the actual number of marshals it employed.
Mrs. Hudson says that the experience of having "a half-dozen armed officers rifle through my personal belongings for the three-hour search was traumatizing."
"But when the files were returned to me and I saw all the notes that had been in their possession for a month, it was gut-wrenching," she said.
That her private files were seized, says Mrs. Hudson, is particularly disturbing because of interactions that she and her husband had during the search of their home, as well as months afterwards, with Coast Guard investigator Miguel Bosch. According to his profile on the networking site LinkedIn, Mr. Bosch worked at the Federal Air Marshal Service from April 2001 through November 2007.
It was Mr. Bosch, Mrs. Hudson says, who asked her during the Aug. 6 search if she was the same Audrey Hudson who had written the air marshal stories. It was also Mr. Bosch, she says, who phoned Mr. Flanagan a month later to say that documents taken during the search had been cleared.
During the call, according Mrs. Hudson, Mr. Bosch said the files had been taken to make sure that they contained only "FOIA-able" information and that he had circulated them to the Transportation Security Administration, which oversees the Federal Air Marshal Service, in order to verify that "it was legitimate" for her to possess such information.
"Essentially, the files that included the identities of numerous government whistleblowers were turned over to the same government agency and officials who they were exposing for wrongdoing," Mrs. Hudson said.
Reached on the telephone by a reporter for The Times, Mr. Bosch refused to comment on whether or not journalist-related documents were seized during the search of Mrs. Hudson's home.
"I got to get on the phone with Coast Guard legal before I talk with you," Mr. Bosch said. "It's still an open investigation."
Asked specifically whether documents related to Mrs. Hudson's reporting activities were taken during the search, he responded: "There was a lot of stuff taken."
Legitimate Case?
The U.S. Coast Guard maintains that it has done nothing wrong in the case and that the investigation into Mrs. Hudson's husband is based on legitimate suspicion that he was illegally in possession of firearms.
The warrant outlines how Mr. Flanagan was found guilty in 1985 — when he was 25 — of resisting arrest in Prince George's County, Maryland.
The charge of carrying a concealed deadly weapon was dropped, but a year later, the U.S. Marshal Service arrested Mr. Flanagan for possession of a machine gun. The warrant also indicates that Mr. Flanagan was also arrested in 1996 by police in Anne Arundel County, Maryland,for possessing a handgun in his vehicle.
The warrant outlines how sometime this year Mr. Flanagan drew the interest of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives after allegedly attempting to purchase "possible machine gun parts from a Swedish national."
The warrant says the information was handed to the Coast Guard's investigative service — since Mr. Flanagan worked at the agency — which conducted an interview during which "Flanagan was evasive but stated he did receive a 'potato gun' but it was defective and it was thrown away."
The term "potato gun" is "slang used during the illegal importation of silencers," according to the warrant.
Mrs. Hudson says the "potato gun" claim is outrageous.
She says that her husband did in fact purchase a "potato launcher" from an online company based in Sweden five years ago as a novelty item, but it was discarded within as few weeks because it did not work.
She noted that the law enforcement agents who raided her home did not take a "golf ball launcher" that also belonged to her husband as a novelty item. They did, however, confiscate small arms belonging to Mrs. Hudson that she had legally registered with the Maryland State Police as far back as 2005.
The search warrant allowed for the weapons to be confiscated, and Mrs. Hudson says the agents told her that because her husband had pled guilty to a resisting arrest charge nearly 30 years ago, she was not allowed to possess the guns under state law. The guns she owned were for recreational shooting, she says, as well as for security concerns resulting from many of her investigations.
"I swear to God, we're not smuggling machine gun parts from Sweden," said Mrs. Hudson, adding that the potato launcher in question "didn't even work."
Mrs. Hudson has been a reporter in Washington, D.C. for nearly 15 years, and covered Homeland Security for the Times after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks through December 2009.
Her investigations have sparked numerous congressional investigations that led to laws signed by former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. She has won numerous journalism awards for her investigations, including the prestigious Sigma Delta Chi bronze medal for public service, the Society of Professional Journalists Dateline Award in Investigative Reporting, and was nominated twice by The Times for the Pulitzer Prize.
"Protecting confidential sources is a part of my honor and hits me at my ethical core," said Mrs. Hudson. "To have someone steal my source information and know it could impact people's careers, is disgusting, a massive overreach. This kind of conduct is intimidation clearly aimed at silencing a vigorous press."
Guy Taylor rejoined The Washington Times in 2011 as the State Department correspondent.
As a freelance journalist, Taylor’s work was supported by the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting and the Fund For Investigative Journalism, and his stories appeared in a variety publications, from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch to Salon, Reason, Prospect Magazine of London, the Daily Star of Beirut, the ...
Hey look, if YOU didn’t do anything wrong, YOU have nothing to worry about.
ReplyDeleteThis is a "bugging-Merkel's-cell-phone" moment for the press, which has been in the tank for the guy for six years. But like 80% of WiO's tribe, they'll vote straight Donk in 2016 too because that's how they roll.
DeleteBut Ms T, I am in the 20% so why bring me or my tribe up?
DeleteBecause the Rat needs a place to start the usual crap.
DeleteAh... Now I understand.
DeleteThe sad news? Israelis and American Jews LIKE me are not in the tank for Obama.
But your pal doesnt need an opening to pollute.
There's always exceptions to a rule. But four-to-one Democrap makes it a rule.
DeleteIs that why you submit anti-Semtic rants and praise A. Hitler, repecting him more than your own father, because they vote against your political choices.
DeleteYou disrespect Judaism and its adherents, because of politics?
What a shallow piece of excrement you are.
Did someone say something?
DeleteAll I heard was "waa waa waa"
Like the character from Charlie Brown....
Just noise.
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One doesn't have to touch or taste shit to understand that it is shit....
DeleteWiggles away from not being able to hear ...
DeleteSquirming over to a discussion of his tactile capabilities and his relish for the tangy taste of rat turd.
Probably reminds him of parve chocolate.
It's fun to what the shit spreader not being answered.
DeleteHe's just to dense to understand it's common knowledge that he's just full of it...
Nothing to respond to, nothing to engage.
He's just like shit, if you engage? you end up stinking... cause he's shit ya know...
Out this way we all have potato guns. I never leave my home without mine. I use the specialty bakers and the oversized stiff water tubing powered with the propane and touched off with a water proof firecracker fuse. Raids have sometimes been carried out against WSU dorms by Idaho Vandals here. They are quick 'hit and flee' raids, the potatoes mostly going through the windows of the dorms.
ReplyDeleteHere we are at practice out on the farm -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TezfdM3g6A
Create your own potato gun here -
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykF3TUTI2hU
For heavier warfare, some geniuses at the U of I Engineering Department even created the 'Cantaloupe Launcher".
DeleteLooking something like a heavy mortar tube the Marines might use, you need to be certain the cantaloupes are not too ripe.
Sorry, I have always felt a deep loathing for people that are amused by chucking eggs, tomatoes, potatoes, cantaloupes, watermelons and pumpkins. I am ambivalent as to how they chuck them.
DeleteMy thoughts and prayers are with the pumpkins.
DeleteEzekiel 4:09 or was that Chevy 3:57?
DeleteMy brother had a potato gun, we were blasting groceries into Puget Sound, but then this metrosexual who was jogging called it in to 9-11 so we had to beat feet.
DeleteOr, maybe it was: Chevy 3:27
DeleteBeat feet is good.
DeleteNever dun heard it 'fore.
The way they beat feet in Turkey, as depicted in Midnight Express, not so good.
DeleteWhen I look at the faces of those slaughtered by the US government at Waco, I thank Jesus that God has blessed us and made us exceptional.
ReplyDeleteReno played a fiddle and Waco burned.
DeleteThey had it coming to them. They resisted and we all must learn that to resist the federal government, like resisting the Lord can be fatal. God loves us, The US Government loves us, but there are limits to their love and patience. You must also understand that GOD and Lord USA (promounced OOsa, like in OOrah) work in strange ways that may not be understandable to us. As perplexing as it looks to us, all of the Branch Davidians have gone to a better place with lambs and honey and shit. Our hearts and prayers are with them. God bless America.
ReplyDeleteOOrah
I think they're trying to turn Oossa into Pockeestonn.
DeleteSpeaking as a former Cryptologic Technician Technical First Class, if you are a journalist investigating sensitive stuff, and you dont know how to encrypt with PGP (Pretty Good Privacy), you are an utter failure and should find a new line of work. Maybe run a website for the government.
ReplyDeleteEven as US officials argue that tough sanctions are what brought Iran to the negotiating table in the first place, the White House and State Department said the administration wanted politicians to wait on new sanctions to give the negotiations time to get traction.
ReplyDeleteSome politicians have argued that now is not the time to ease pressure and that pursuing new sanctions will give the US additional leverage in the talks.
But State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said it was the consensus of the administration’s national security teams that a pause “would be helpful in terms of providing some flexibility while we see if these negotiations will move forward”.
She said the position was delivered to politicians and congressional aides at a White House meeting on Thursday.
“We have conveyed that any congressional action should be aligned with our negotiating strategy as we move forward. So while we understand that Congress may consider new sanctions, we think this is a time for a pause, as we asked for in the past, to see if negotiations can gain traction,” Ms Psaki said.
Is it time for the egemony to increase preure, to make it even more uncomfortable, or to just maintain the pressure already being applied.
DeleteShould the hegemony, "Step in Up" "Pick Ip the Pace" or maintain the steady pressure that got the outlier to the table.
Has enough pressure been applied to garner the apology required, or will we have to step the sanction regime up, to the "Next Level"?
Who cares about the tactics Jesus would use ....
What would Farmer Fudd do?
"waa waa waa"
DeleteAn opinion on everything and nothing original to say.
"waa waa waa"
Iranian Nation Will Not Forget US Atrocities: Official
ReplyDeleteOctober 26, 2013 - 15:42
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – A member of Tehran City Council said the US officials’ disparaging remarks about Iran and their deceptive practices have been seared into the psyche of the Iranian nation.
The Islamic Republic’s call for removal of western sanctions on the country would not make the Iranian nation forget the US government’s atrocities, said Mohsen Pirhadi in an interview with the Tasnim News Agency on Saturday.
“We have forgotten neither the American officials’ humiliating remarks nor their plots against the Iranian nation,” he stated.
http://www.tasnimnews.com/english/Home/Single/175179
Delete"The first to apologize is the bravest. The first to forgive is the strongest. The first to forget is the happiest."
DeleteWill the Iranians apologize for their transgression, regardless?
The Hegemony will not back down, will not waiver in its resolve ...
The Hegemony is ready, on the verge of toughening up the sanctions regime.
Who will bring strength and happiness to the forefront?
"waa waa waa"
DeleteAn opinion on everything and nothing original to say.
"waa waa waa"
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DeleteHere is a nice story about Iran...
DeleteReport: Iran Hangs 16 'Rebels' to Avenge Ambush
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
TEHRAN, Iran — Iran hanged 16 "rebels" of an unspecified armed group on Saturday in retaliation for the death of 14 border guards in clashes near the frontier with Pakistan, a semiofficial news agency reported.
The executions took place hours after the rebels ambushed the border guards near the town of Saravan in southeast Iran, Fars agency quoted local judicial official Mohammad Marzieh as saying.
State TV said that rebels had crossed the border from Pakistan and fled back there after the clash. Drug smugglers have occasionally ambushed Iranian troops in the mountainous area, which lies astride a major transit route linking Afghanistan to Europe and the Persian Gulf. Ethnic Baluch armed groups also operate there, but recently have been much less active.
16 hung to death...
LOL
Iran... Deuce's and Rat's favorite nation.
Bibi Apologizes for Turkish Flotilla Incident
ReplyDeleteNetanyahu admits that there were “operational mistakes”
More highlights from this story to come, but for now we know that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s phone call to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan contained in it an apology for the 2010 Turkish flotilla incident in which nine civilians died.
Netanyahu has long held out on handing over such an apology given that the Mavi Marmara sought to break Israel’s naval blockade and that IDF soldiers were brutally attacked when they boarded the ship. Nevertheless, Netanyahu acknowledged “operational mistakes,” according to an official quoted in the White House Press Pool. Erdogan was quick to accept the apology.
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/127936/bibi-apologizes-for-turkish-flotilla-incident
Obama departs Israel || Netanyahu phones Erdogan to apologize for deaths of Turkish citizens on Gaza flotilla
Two leaders spoke for first time since 2009; agreed to normalize relations, return ambassadors to Tel Aviv and Ankara;
Turkey agreed to cancel all legal proceedings initiated against IDF officers and soldiers over Mavi Marmara incident; Turkey FM:
Apology meets all of Turkey's demands.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-phones-erdogan-to-apologize-for-deaths-of-turkish-citizens-on-gaza-flotilla.premium-1.511394
Even Bibi Netanyahu, a strong MAN, bent under pressure of the Hegemony ...
DeleteWhat will the Iranians do, with the pressure upon them ready to escalate?
What would Farmer Fudd do?
I think Farmer Rufus would kind of "hold steady" for the time being, with an eye toward a little "ratcheting" upon any signs of delay, or intransigence on the part of the Iranian negotiating team.
DeleteGardener Teresita would pack up and move all the bases ringing Iran to the border in Arizona, New Mexico, and Califoria.
DeleteWhat Rufus said.
Deletedesert rat wrote, "Even Bibi Netanyahu, a strong MAN, bent under pressure of the Hegemony ..."
DeleteDid we ever get that apology from Turkey for breaking its treaty obligations in 2003?
Netanyahu followed the observation of Napoleon, "I will kiss anyone's ass to get what I want."
"The only battle that counts is the last one."
If Farmer Fudd's advice had been followed years ago the problem wouldn't exist today. Fudd said at the time of Iraq "we are attacking the wrong country".
DeleteRat says: "waa waa waa"
DeleteAn opinion on everything and nothing original to say.
"waa waa waa"
Farmer Fudd has been silent on the matter of Iraq.
DeleteRefusing to be drawn into it at this late date.
Farmer Fudd just fell off the turnip truck, last month.
Anonymous is not Farmer Fudd.
Farmer Fudd should get a sign-on, or stick to what is his.
Or does Anonymous disregard intellectual property rights as being essential to liberty, too?
What was that smell of shit so early in the morning?
DeleteAh it's the Rat Droppings..
and he's PROUD....
Deletewhat a loser
Back in 1990 the Federal Government seized the Mustang Ranch in Nevada for tax evasion, and as required by law tried to run it, but it went bankrupt and closed. Now we are trusting the economy of our country, our auto industry, our banking system, and our health care to the same nitwits who couldn't make money renting whores and selling whiskey.
ReplyDeleteGrandma once told me that "the government could not organize a fuck in a whorehouse." At the time, I thought it just the liquor. In retrospect it was wisdom of the ages.
DeleteExcellent Miss T.
DeleteThe Government can ruin a business powered even by the natural sex urge.
heh
You #1, T.
Except when you get on Israel.
Remember Ms T, you can not get on Israel, oh no.
DeleteIsrael HAS to be on top.
He likes a little bondage, collars on his bitches.
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DeleteEach of the retailers also offers other higher blends for flexible fuel vehicles, including E85. Averaged across all fuel blends, ethanol accounted for roughly 25 percent of the retailers’ gasoline sales. This level of ethanol sales far exceeds the scheduled RFS levels for years to come.
ReplyDelete“We have real world data on higher blend ethanol sales and the facts are clear. In Iowa, and to my knowledge around the country, every retailer that offers higher ethanol blends like E15 and E85 exceeds the percentage of conventional renewables called for by the Renewable Fuel Standard – in 2014 and far beyond,” Shaw said. “This proves consumers will buy enough higher ethanol blends to exceed the RFS if given a chance. If policymakers compare Big Oil’s hypothetical blend wall horror stories to real world data they quickly learn it’s not that you can’t sell these ethanol blends; it’s that Big Oil refuses to do so.”
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DeleteWe've been using approx. 8.6 Million barrels/day of E10 (10% ethanol.)
DeleteIf we went to 25% ethanol that would be about 1.3 Million bbl/day less gasoline used.
That's a little over $50 Billion / Yr Spent at Home, rather than the Persian Gulf.
Actually, with the price difference between ethanol, and gasoline, that could be about $30 Billion spent at home vs. $50 Billion spent in the Gulf.
Delete"theodicy"
ReplyDeleteThere is no satisfactory answer to the "why" of injustices such as Waco. Some will shake their fists at heaven and curse G-d for his heartless indifference. This is understandable. Others will marginalize G-d, making him the butt of black humor. This too is understandable. What will never be understandable to a human being is the apparent injustice.
Speaking of loathsome and injustice, one of our greatest allies of all time is once again proving to be on top:,
ReplyDeleteSaudi Arabia forces Women to Cancel Driving Protest, Asserts Authoritarianism in Region
Posted on 10/26/2013 by Juan Cole
A key group of Saudi feminists have called off their planned protests for Saturday against Saudi Arabia’s bizarre ban on women driving. (Some individuals may go ahead). They did so in response to dire threats from the Saudi Interior Ministry (i.e. secret police) of condign punishment against women who got behind the wheel today, and against those who gathered in public for protests. One woman protester in 2011 was arrested and sentence to ten lashes (yes). I am a worldly person who has visited countries in which, all together, perhaps a majority of the world’s population lives, and I am not quick to condemn other cultures. But really, whipping women with whips for daring to drive an automobile, is barbaric.
It is about the most pitiful thing one can imagine– a state that disallows protest altogether as a means of enforcing a brutal patriarchal order that deprives women of the basic right of mobility. Inability to drive limits women’s ability to pursue not just their careers (Saudi women have high rates of literacy and education) but even just hobbies. Wealthy women have chauffeurs, but contrary to stereotypes not all Saudi families are rich or can afford to hire drivers. Supportive Saudi husbands sometimes have to spend a lot of their time driving family members around.
Bring on the solar.
ReplyDeleteMore proof that you don’t have to be intelligent to become a billionaire
ReplyDeleteNEW YORK – During a panel at Yeshiva University on Tuesday evening, Sheldon Adelson, noted businessman and owner of the newspaper Israel Hayom, suggested that the US should use nuclear weapons on Iran to impose its demands from a position of strength.
Asked by moderator Rabbi Shmuley Boteach whether the US should negotiate with Iran if it were to cease its uranium enrichment program, Adelson retorted, “What are we going to negotiate about?”
Adelson then imagined what might happen if an American official were to call up an Iranian official, say “watch this,” and subsequently drop a nuclear bomb in the middle of the Iranian desert.
"Then you say, ‘See! The next one is in the middle of Tehran. So, we mean business. You want to be wiped out? Go ahead and take a tough position and continue with your nuclear development. You want to be peaceful? Just reverse it all, and we will guarantee you that you can have a nuclear power plant for electricity purposes, energy purposes’," Adelson said.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to these ears.
DeleteA demo, to clear their minds, then the real deal if it don't work.
We would quickly come to understand their manner of thinking.
I amend this statement to include: try a naval blockade first.....then the demo.
Deletehttp://freebeacon.com/iran-announces-34-new-nuke-sites/
Delete.
DeleteSheldon Adelson?
Why the USA? Why not Israel?
.
Why not both and NATO too?
DeleteIt seems it may be beyond the capacity of Israel alone.
Anyway, I don't want to argue about it. Have always said I may be wrong, and only time will tell.
It just gives me the willies though, the idea of a Jim Jones Suicide Cult seeking the return of the Mahdi and the end of the world with nuclear weapons.
I'd rather listen to Idaho get whipped by Ol' Miss in peace, and email my niece, who will be back now in only two months.
Picking her up in Seattle, then we are heading to Vega. Wanna go? She says she would like to meet you. I described you to her at the oddest, yet gentle, and sexual, man on the planet, and being in psychology she seemed attracted to you.
Not going to Vega but to Vegas.
DeleteGood profile on rat the other day, Quirk.
quirk: Sheldon Adelson?
DeleteWhy the USA? Why not Israel?
Because America still has the footprint that Iran would not respond too.
Duh.
Good thing, because Vega is twenty-six light years away. And a light year is six trillion miles.
DeleteWiO: Because America still has the footprint that Iran would not respond too.
DeleteWell, if you're going to treat the United States like a mercenary, the least you can do is pay us three billion dollars rather than the other way around.
Because the nations that make up NATO do not lust for the deaths of Iranians, as some fascist here do.
DeleteDo what we say or we will burn your society to the ground.
For doing exactly what the US asked the Iranians to do, when they sign-on to the NPT.
Iran is in compliance with the NPT.
Farmer Fudd would lead a international military coalition to nuke Iran, but none of those countries will oblige and even consider it.
A foolish Fudd, that is well known.
His premier applicant for next NATO membership, India.
The "Global Slavery Index" report released by the Walk Free Foundation on Thursday ranked 162 countries by estimating the number of people in each nation affected by a range of practices including forced and bonded labor, human trafficking, forced marriages, and the use of children in the military.
Walk Free Foundation was founded last year by Australian mining magnate Andrew Forrest. Its index was endorsed by leaders including former U.S. Secretary Hillary Clinton, former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Microsoft Corp. co-founder Bill Gates.
In the report, India has the highest number of estimated slaves with 13.9 million
Reported by FOX News, part of the Farmer Fudd News Network
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/17/mauritania-haiti-pakistan-top-charity-new-global-index-on-modern-slavery/
DeleteTeresita RedingerSat Oct 26, 01:56:00 PM EDT
WiO: Because America still has the footprint that Iran would not respond too.
Well, if you're going to treat the United States like a mercenary, the least you can do is pay us three billion dollars rather than the other way around.
Iran is NOT Israel's problem. It's the world's. Now are you saying America is not the leader of the free world anymore?
If that is the case? Then it's the wild wild world.
Amerika the unexceptional.
Delete4 % of the world's population.
consumes to much.
needs to apologize
Westward the wind blew, stirring drought-shriveled leaves on the trees,
Deletebarely noticed by the 13.9 million slaves in India,
Farmer Fudd more concerned with riffling the surface of shrinking streams,
his alfalfa farm bordered along the hard-baked mud,
a scattering of wolf spoor causing his urinary tract to leak.
Idaho Vandals take on Ol' Miss at 4:30 pm Pacific time, Vandal fans.
ReplyDeleteThis is how the Anaconda Mine got its name, according to a recent email from my wife -
ReplyDeleteMichael Hickey named the mine after reading McCellan's union army would surround Lee's forces like "a giant anaconda". Hickey had fought as Union soldier and liked the image.
pg 55 OPPORTUNITY, MONTANA
Notice how she references even the page number for me? She is excellent woman.
Place these days is an environmental disaster area.
Those were tough raw towns in those days, folks, and their was real competition between the whore houses. The Mustang Ranch wouldn't have stood a chance.
DeleteFarmer Fudd could not find his ass, if a woman did not hold his hand.
DeleteMay well explain the excremental nature of his thinking, transferred to the page
1. Excremental
The piling on of more and more shit i.e. in a work environment.
This came to me while I was thinking about the ongoing difficulties one of our senior managers was causing.
We were working on a project for her and every time we were close to completion, she would change her mind or make more and more outrageous requests.
The word is a combination of incremental and excrement.
So the next time you are in a situation of any kind ...
where the shit keeps mounting, you my friend, are in an excremental situation.
When the Have Nots Become the Haves
ReplyDeletehttp://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/58826
“What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. ‘The Prince’ was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. ‘Rules for Radicals’ is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away.”
"One man alone ain't got no chance."
Deletefrom To Have and Have Not, Hemingway
"If you have a choice between being a have or a have not, by all means be a have. If you have a choice between being a slave or a serf, by all means be a serf."
bobbo
Delete“In such a society as ours the only possible chance for change,
for mobility, for political, economic, and moral flow lies in the tactics of guerrilla warfare,
in the use of fictions, of language.”
Kathy DEAD at 50...
DeleteBye bye...
There's no way that people that think like that could be smart enough to get from Idaho to Mississippi.
ReplyDeleteSeveral years ago you had a differing opinion on Iran, Rufus. I recall it well, you have evidently forgotten, having been brainwashed by the liberals these latter days.
DeleteOur football team would have been smart to have stayed at home.
DeleteThat much is for certain.
Teresita, please give your opinion on this:
ReplyDeleteHAD same problem & fought it for a week. After many useless heathcare.gov online chat sessions (Boy, are THEY rude!), and about twenty LONG & equally useless phone conversations, I simply DISABLED Java on my laptop, and then cleared my IE cache (F12, CtrlR, F12), rebooted, and BAM!. IT WORKED. I still found bugs, but I got through entire process & bought a policy in about an hour. A great policy at a fantastic price!
If you ever get over this way, fix my blogger account would you Miss T? I'll pay you to be my domain administrator, whatever that is.
Delete" A great policy at a fantastic price!"
DeleteThis statement shows he wasn't on the ObamaCare site.
95% of the news reports I've read say just opposite.
Then there's the problem of finding a doctor.
Your problem is you need to uninstall Java and install Google Chrome or Firefox or Opera, then make the icon for Internet Explorer go away.
DeleteAnd just what is the minimum windows machine/age that will be able to use the website?
DeleteBy the end of November, Obama assures Americans that eleven year old gamers will finally be able to navigate the site, which will then make it possible for their parents to comply with the mandate to sign up.
DeleteI simply DISABLED Java on my laptop, and then cleared my IE cache (F12, CtrlR, F12), rebooted, and BAM!. IT WORKED.
ReplyDeleteThis is the part that I'm interested in.
Pilots used to carry around these fat sheathes of notes on the airports they're flying to and whatnot, but to save weight they've moved all that stuff to iPads. Except Delta Airlines, who's management is taking money from Micro$uck, and they've forced all the pilots to use Surface tablets, which are TOTAL pieces of shit that cost Micro$uck a billion dollar write-down last quarter in unsold units and led directly to the end of the career of monkeyboy, CEO Steve Ballmer. So don't fly Delta. They might get the Blue Screen of Death when they're trying to figure out where the turn point is to line up on the Kansas City airport.
DeleteAllen: Did we ever get that apology from Turkey for breaking its treaty obligations in 2003?
ReplyDeleteSo the NATO treaty says if one signatory nation attacks another country, all members must also attack or aid the attack? I thought it was if one signatory nation WAS attacked. My bad.
ReplyDelete“In such a society as ours the only possible chance for change,
for mobility, for political, economic, and moral flow lies in the tactics of guerrilla warfare,
in the use of fictions, of language.”
Kathy Acker
Like that girl ...
[;-)
The Palestinian Authority is ramping up its diplomatic efforts against Israeli settlements in the territories it occupied in the 1967 war. It has called on 50 countries around the world to freeze business dealings and withdraw investments.
ReplyDeleteIn letters to countries in Latin America and Europe, as well as to South Africa, Australia, Japan and South Korea, the Palestinian Authority asked governments to put pressure on local companies and discourage any relations with the Israeli settlements, Muhammad Shtayyeh, a senior Palestinian official, told the Financial Times.
As their right.
DeleteIt's also Israel's right to do all it can to expose the PA as a corrupt, non-dictatorship of a people who venerate suicide bombers.
The PA just signed a deal to support Assad of Syria.
LOL
Freedom is freedom. The Palestinians are free to do as they choose.
Now the funny back story? MOST of the workers on the Jewish companies west bank sites? Are the palestinians that actually work for a living. They will be hurt the most.
DeleteIt's not the 1st time the PA has shot it's self in the foot...
Here's to high palestinian unemployment rates going even further...
Farmer Fudd recommends a life of serfdom, rather than revolution and freedom, for the slaves of the world.
ReplyDeleteWhile the compares the 600,000 dead, in a war he credits for ending slavery in the US to a literary "wind riffle".
Being a learned college graduate Farmer Fudd would know there is no real difference 'tween serf and slave.
serf (sûrf)
n.
1. A member of the lowest feudal class, attached to the land owned by a lord and required to perform labor in return for certain legal or customary rights.
2. An agricultural laborer under various similar systems, especially in 18th- and 19th-century Russia and eastern Europe.
3. A person in bondage or servitude.
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slave (slv)
n.
1. One bound in servitude as the property of a person or household.
2. One who is abjectly subservient to a specified person or influence:
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Better for those 13.9 million Indians to accept their fate...
To accept being a slave or serf, rather than give support to and for those people and fight for their freedom.
He likens the battle for freedom to a wind riffle.
Demanding that the US expand its sphere of Treaty responsibility to defend the slavery of13.9 million people
What a fucking fascist this Farmer Fudd is.
He is a fucking fascist.
That is Farmer Fudd's idea of the American Way, what NATO should defend
Farmer "The Fascist" Fudd ...
DeleteAdvocates that the US expand its sphere of Treaty Responsibility to defend the slavery of13.9 million people
more "waa waa waa'
Deletesaying nothing, just wasting byte space...
LOL
the TIME it takes for Rat to create droppings?
PRICELESS!
Truly priceless.
DeleteI was pointing out that slavery is worse than serfdom, which is bad enough.
"If you have of a choice of being a serf or being a small land owner, by all means be a small land owner."
bobbo
is in the same spirit.
Quirk did an excellent psychoanalysis on rat yesterday, WiO, in case you missed it. It's back the a thread or two.
That statement by rat above makes no sense at all. He could benefit from following the advice given by many here and seek help.
Deleteanother anon
That statement by rat above makes no sense at all. He could benefit from following the advice given by many here and seek help.
Deleteanother anon
Sick rat is beginning to futter the f words already again today.
DeleteA bad sign.
He needs help.
another anon
If the Indians what to maintain a Slavery State that is their internal domestic policy, ...
ReplyDeletebut if their government is attacked by enemies, foreign or domestic ...
We are not about to send American boys 9 or 10 thousand miles away from home ...
to do what Indian boys ought to be doing for themselves.
“A major opportunity was missed after 2001 and it is imperative that the U.S. does not make the same mistakes ...
ReplyDeleteit made then by isolating and threatening Iran,” said Prof. Kristian Coates-Ulrichsen in an interview with the Tehran Times.
Kristian Coates-Ulrichsen is a Research Fellow at the James A. Baker III Institute of Public Policy at Rice University and ...
an Associate Fellow at Chatham House.
His research focuses on political and security developments in the Arabian Peninsula and Iraq and ...
the changing position of the Persian Gulf States in international relations.
He is the author of “Insecure Gulf: The End of Certainty and the Transition to the Post-Oil Era.”
Q: Iran has announced that it’s ready to adopt confidence-building measures and show more transparency in its nuclear activities. This is the first step that Iran has willingly taken. What should the United States and its European allies do to reciprocate Iran’s goodwill gesture? Do you think that they are ready to lift the sanctions, or at least part of them?
A: I think that European states are more ready than the U.S. to lift sanctions, as are some of the major Asian powers.
If cracks begin to develop in the international community, ...
it will be difficult for the U.S. to maintain widespread support for the punitive sanctions regime.
Q: Will a possible nuclear deal between Iran and the United States contribute to the resolution of other problems and crises in the region, including the three-year-long unrest in Syria? Once they find an answer to the nuclear standoff, Iran and the United States can work together to address the question of Syria, and then try to make peace and stability return to Iraq and Afghanistan. What’s your take on that?
A: Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan are all areas where the international community and Iran can work together to try to stabilize the situation.
A major opportunity was missed after 2001 and it is imperative that the U.S. does not make the same mistakes it made then ...
by isolating and threatening Iran. In Iraq and Syria, Iran must be on board if a negotiated settlement to the crises is to be found.
But for this to happen, the U.S. will need to take hard decisions that will be very unpopular with its Arab allies and also with domestic opinion in America, and it is not yet clear whether the administration is willing to contemplate these decisions.
http://www.tehrantimes.com/component/content/article/111749
Deletewaa, waa, waa...
Deleteditto waa waa waa
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ReplyDelete“My message to the international community is that our silence and complicity especially on the situation in Gaza shames us all.
It is almost like the behaviour of the military junta in Burma”
But Desmond Gaza has had elections!
DeleteThey elected Hamas! Who promptly murdered HUNDREDS of fellow palestinians! They tossed them off of the roof tops!
What a sight! All those Palestinians (belonging to Fatah_ flapping their arms trying to fly like birds.. But they didn't fly they went SPLAT....
Splat!!!
Right on the ground..
A big pile of blood and guts.. Tossed off the roofs by the ELECTED government of Gaza. Hamas!
Hamas...
Such a nice group of Jihadists...
I guess Desmond's quote is quite out of time and space.
Unless you were referring to the murderous Hamas junta?
Excellent.
DeleteI met Mrs Desmond Tutu once, at our Lutheran Church. (I go for special events) She was not lacking in caloric intake, wore a kind of big umbrella dress, very colorful, I must say, was roundly applauded by all the pewples, except me, who clapped reservedly and kept my seat and the others stood up.
Her speech I recall as being not so bad, been given a hundred times before, whites were devils, blacks innocent angels. She didn't advocate violence, as I recall.
I'd take the wife over Desmond, and put her on a diet.
over 100,000 people murdered in burma...
Deletewow I guess Israel really sucks at the is murder game.....
Next time Israel, listen to Desmond and kill like you mean it...
Another wonderful Hamas thing...
DeleteThe [Amnesty International] report states that at least two dozen men were shot dead by Hamas gunman, and many more were kneecapped or otherwise tortured during and after Israel’s three week offensive in the Gaza Strip.
The human rights group, which had sent a fact-finding team to Gaza as soon as the fighting finished, also confirmed media reports that some victims had been executed in hospitals where they were being treated for wounds.
Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum has admitted that the Islamic movement executed Palestinian “spies” who provided Israel with information about Hamas targets.
[...] Hamas publicly endorses the killing of collaborators, but denies allegations that it attacked rival Fatah faction members.
LOL
kneecapping their own citizens,,,
now that's entertainment..
So now?
DeleteGaza is under attack by it's brother arabs... Egypt..
1200 tunnels flooded with water...
oh the entertainment
Yes, Egypt is behaving very badly to their Arab brothers. You might think Egypt views Gaza as a ghetto and its inhabitants as scum.
Delete...gotta wonder why the TuTu's aren't incensed by the persecution of Christians and Tibetans by China...
DeleteCause Tutu hates Jews...
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Delete“My message to the international community is that our silence and complicity especially on the situation in Gaza shames us all.
I would suggest sack cloth and ashes for you Desmond but you have been terribly sick lately. It wouldn't be prudent.
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ReplyDeleteProtesters march against mass surveillance......drudge
Good, if I were anywhere near I'd get off my arse and join them.
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2013/10/25/onion-video-white-house-thrilled-with-record-number-of-people-who-thought-they-signed-up-for-health-care/
ReplyDelete“It strikes me often while I am in Iran that were Christian evangelicals to take a tour of Iran today, they might find it the model for an ideal society they seek in America. Replace Allah with God, Mohammad with Jesus, keep the same public and private notions of chastity, sin, salvation, and God's will, and a Christian Republic is born.”
ReplyDeletehanging gays by cranes, stoning children, supporting troops in syria that rape and murder innocents...
DeleteLOL
The ham sandwiches would be a deal breaker. Then there is that irritating business of the Trinity, not to mention having sex with eight-year old girls.
ReplyDeleteIdaho v Ol' Miss -two hours, folks
ReplyDeleteHooman, you're a little nuts.To say the least. While not much impressed by the Evangelicals myself, I can't recall any hanging queers from cranes, stoning women to death, persecuting everyone around them, bullying Ba'hai, nor killing people for leaving the faith.
Think again, Hooman.
EM CBS: Yeah, ObamaCare’s woes are much worse than WH admitted
ReplyDeleteAP Onion video: “White House thrilled with record number of people who thought they signed up for health care”
EM Maryland ACA enrollments are 96% Medicaid
EM Oregon ACA exchange still 0 for October
from The Green Room, Hot Air
Allen linked the Onion piece above
No reports of any calls/contacts to the ObamaCare web site from Idaho as of this time.
And the original Zionist slogan—'a land without a people for a people without a land'—disclosed its own negation when I saw the densely populated Arab towns dwelling sullenly under Jewish tutelage.
ReplyDeleteYou want irony?
How about Jews becoming colonizers at just the moment when other Europeans had given up on the idea?”
You're dead, Hitch, and never made much sense when you were alive either.
DeleteAllen: Jordan has a Palestinian population of nearly 80%.
DeleteAnd the reason for that is (wait for it...wait for it...) Jordan is comprised of the 80% of Palestine that was assigned to the Arabs.
Ideas and truth do not die, bitch!
Delete.
DeleteThey just fade away.
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Now we know: Bush did it.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/26/us-germany-usa-spying-idUSBRE99P08G20131026?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=992637
"United States tracked Merkel's phone since 2002: report"
So Obama just inherited the daily transcripts of Merkel's cell phone. Check!
DeleteDesmond Tutu's plea: Stand up for Liu Xiaobo
ReplyDeleteWhen Obama meets Chinese President Xi, he must urge the release of his fellow Nobel Peace Prize laureate. If he won't do that, who will?
June 03, 2013 | By Desmond M. Tutu and Jared Genser
Emblematic of this repression is the plight of 2010 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Liu Xiaobo and his wife, Liu Xia. Our organization, Freedom Now, which works to free prisoners of conscience through legal, political and advocacy efforts, filed a complaint in 2010 on behalf of the Lius with the U.N. Working Group on Arbitrary Detention.
Liu Xiaobo is a respected Chinese intellectual with a long history of putting his liberty at risk to defend the universal values of freedom and democracy. In 1989, he left the safety of Columbia University, where he was a visiting scholar, to return home and join the students protesting in Tiananmen Square. In response, the government held him for 20 months on "counterrevolution" charges and banned him from publishing in the country.
Despite more arrests, surveillance and harassment in the following years, Liu joined a group of reformers in drafting Charter 08, a manifesto calling for peaceful political reform in China based on the principles of human rights, freedom and democracy. He then made a fateful decision that put him and his family in the line of fire. He agreed to be the first signatory on Charter 08, which would ultimately secure thousands of signatures.
Just days before Charter 08 was to be made public in December 2008, police arrested Liu and held him incommunicado for three weeks, and without charge or access to a lawyer for nearly six months. His trial on "inciting subversion" charges lasted only two hours and the defense was allowed only 14 minutes to present its case. Ultimately, the court convicted Liu — citing as evidence his involvement in drafting Charter 08 and his online essays — and sentenced him to 11 years in prison.
Liu responded to the verdict with a statement: "I have long been aware that when an independent intellectual stands up to an autocratic state, step one toward freedom is often a step into prison. Now I am taking that step; and true freedom is that much nearer."
Less well known is the Kafkaesque nightmare being suffered by his wife, Liu Xia. For more than 2 1/2 years since the Nobel announcement, she has been under strict house arrest in her one-bedroom apartment in Beijing. She is taken to visit her husband in prison once a month, but has no Internet access, telephone or ability to receive or send mail. Her life is controlled by Chinese security officials. The public recently caught a rare glimpse of Liu Xia in front of a Beijing courtroom. As journalists looked on, she shouted, "Tell everybody I'm not free!"
Liu Xia had been escorted from her apartment so she could observe the trial of her younger brother, who faces trumped-up charges of economic crimes. She was asked by a journalist why the Chinese government had allowed her out of the house. "They want to break one leg, then the other. I tell myself to stand straight, don't be afraid," she said. Then she asked, "Is it a crime to be Liu Xiaobo's wife?"
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In today's China, the answer is yes. Yet the Chinese government had the audacity in response to our filing to the United Nations to claim that Liu Xia is "under no legal restriction." The United Nations subsequently found that Liu Xiaobo and Liu Xia are being held in violation of international law and called for their release.
DeleteLest one think that the situation of a Nobel Peace Prize laureate and his wife are unusual in modern China, Beijing's spending this year on domestic security will exceed the budget of the People's Liberation Army. In all, Beijing will spend $123.6 billion this year to protect itself from its own people — a jaw-dropping outlay, even for a country that experiences more than 100,000 protests annually on bread-and-butter issues such as corruption, environmental degradation and unpaid wages.
The Chinese government claims it does not seek confrontation domestically or abroad, even as it is simultaneously crushing dissent. But its behavior instead projects weakness and insecurity. There is no other way to interpret the inhumane actions of a government that believes anything can be justified in the name of the greater good.
When Obama meets President Xi, he must stand up to this repression and urge the release of his fellow Nobel Peace Prize laureate Liu Xiaobo and Liu Xia. If he won't do that, who will?
Desmond M. Tutu is archbishop emeritus of Cape Town and recipient of the 1984 Nobel Peace Prize. Jared Genser serves as international counsel to Liu Xiaobo. They are honorary chairman and founder, respectively, of Freedom Now.
Desmond Tutu: Chen Guangcheng: Has NYU Bowed to Pressure From China?
ReplyDeleteDesmond Tutu (1984 Nobel Peace Prize winner)
06/21/2013 12:06 pm
The news that New York University is showing the door to Chinese dissident Chen Guangcheng, apparently under pressure from the Chinese Communist Party, is disturbing. We will likely never know the back channel conversations that occurred or to what extent the Chinese government has pressured NYU to get rid of Chen. But if in fact NYU has bowed to pressure from the Chinese regime, it will signify a serious tumble in stature for the university.
The university's public relations people say they are not responding to pressure in letting Chen go. Their statements are well worked out. However, the Chinese government's actions have been fairly consistent with businesses or allied countries who fail to do their bidding when it comes to voices they do not approve of. They have squeezed companies financially, dropped contracts, and in other ways have repeatedly threatened and punished those "business partners" who fail to tow the line. When the Nobel Committee awarded the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize to dissident Liu Xiaobo, one of China's responses was to strangle the Norwegian fishing industry, cutting their fish imports by 60%. In my own country in 2011, Chinese pressure on the South African government resulted in His Holiness the Dalai Lama being denied a visa to attend my 80th birthday party. They have gone so far as to have Chinese embassies contact film festivals and request that films critical of China be pulled from the festival. And they have rewarded those influential individuals who do their bidding handsomely.
Chen Guangcheng has been one of the most outspoken of the Chinese dissidents abroad, taking a public stand against Chinese human rights violations, including the abominable practices of forced abortion, imprisonment and enslavement of religious minorities, and the unthinkable execution of prisoners for the harvesting and sale of their organs. He is also charismatic, intelligent, with a wonderful story -- a self taught lawyer who defended villagers against corrupt officials, who before gaining fame for his escape from house arrest was known was known in the villages as the "barefoot lawyer."
He has at times seemed a bit of a lone voice against a wall of silence. This could not but dismay the Chinese officials and diplomats charged with silencing the voices of dissent abroad. There is little reason to believe that NYU would not have received the same phone calls that others have. The fact that the university is in negotiations to open a university in Shanghai gives it every reason to listen and conform.
In the human rights world, we have struggled to deal with the blind eye that American and multinational corporations turn to China. We know that Kmart, Nestle and others have sold products that were made by Falun Gong practitioners imprisoned in "thought reform" slave camps for their religious beliefs. We know that Cisco has helped the Chinese Communist regime develop a sophisticated system for intense spying on their own citizenry. We try and understand that corporations need to make money. It doesn't sit well. But there is nothing particularly new about greed taking precedence over ethics.
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DeleteAmerican universities, however, have been revered around the world as bastions for free thought and independent minds. In South Africa we owe a deep debt of gratitude to American university students who rose with us to overturn apartheid -- and to the universities that allowed their students to think and speak freely. The universities in the US who stood with their students for human rights and divested from South Africa may well have created the tipping point that brought down apartheid and brought freedom to black South Africans. I am hard pressed to think of one human rights or civil rights landmark that was not started or given its much needed acceleration on US college campuses.
If the corporate thinking that places profits over our own humanity has begun to invade the American university system, causing it to bow to pressure from some of the worst human rights violators in our world today in favor of expansion into the Chinese market, it has gone too far.
I can only hope that NYU officials will show us shortly that we are all wrong.
To lend your support to Archbishop Tutu and Chen Guangcheng's message on human rights in China, please visit thecommunity.com.
http://www.chinaaid.org/2013/06/desmond-tutu-chen-guangcheng-has-nyu.html
Tell China to Stop Atrocities, Writes Nobel Winner Desmond Tutu
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbkTGmRqvuQ
ReplyDeleteTutu Urges China to Grant Autonomy to Tibet
Archbishop and Nobel Laureate Desmond Tutu urges China to grant autonomy to Tibet in India's northern Dharamsala town where Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama also addressed the audience. (Video: Reuters/Photo: AP)
http://live.wsj.com/video/tutu-urges-china-to-grant-autonomy-to-tibet/C15FCE5A-F964-4CF6-BF70-5E8E2DBEEF07.html
Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Chen Guangcheng On Human Rights in China
ReplyDeleteArchbishop Desmond Tutu and Chen Guangcheng have co-written a letter to international leaders, calling upon them to confront China on their notorious human rights abuses. The pair specifically mention the laogai labor camps, stating that it is time for China to realize that the Chinese dream cannot be achieved while millions of their citizens suffer systematic rights repression in labor camps for offenses related to thoughts and expressions. Chen and Tutu also mention the forced organ harvesting of Chinese prisoners. They call on the international community to stand up for human rights in China, and state that it is no longer okay to turn a blind eye for the sake of "national security" or economic growth.
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http://laogai.org/news/archbishop-desmond-tutu-and-chen-guangcheng-human-rights-china
Now Archbishop Desmond Tutu urges boycott of Beijing Olympics over China's failure to act in Darfur
ReplyDeleteLast updated at 19:33 14 February 2008
Archbishop Desmond Tutu: China must use its influence in Sudan over the crisis in Darfur
Archbishop Desmond Tutu warned China could face an international boycott of the Beijing Olympics if they did not move to end the atrocities in Darfur.
A day after director Steven Spielberg stepped down as an artistic adviser to the games, the South African cleric condemned the Chinese government for failing to utilise their influence on the Sudanese leaders.
In an interview with ITV News, Archbishop Tutu said: "We don't obviously want to do that (boycott the games) - you don't want to do that kind of thing unless it is absolutely necessary.
"The ball is very much in the court of the Chinese government.
"They have to decide whether they want the Games to go on and be unaffected."
The South African cleric said China had shown it could take "the right kind of action" through its support of a United Nations security resolution which authorised the deployment of a joint UN-African Union force in an attempt to quell violence in the region.
But he added: "We believe that they could use a great deal more of their leverage to help to change the situation drastically.
"What we want (China) to do now is to persuade, influence the Sudanese government to stop its obstructionist tactics which are slowing up the deployment of that force.
"And it's quite crucial - people are dying - and we want to see the situation changing. And it can change.
"China has a great deal of muscle as the Sudan's most important trading partner.
"China wants the oil and the Sudan wants especially Chinese arms."
“The first thing you notice, coming to Israel from the Arab world, is that you have left the most courteous region of the globe and entered the rudest. The difference is so profound that you're left wondering when the mutation in Semitic blood occurred, as though God parted the Red Sea and said: "Okay, you rude ones, keep wandering toward the Promised Land. The rest of you can stay here and rot in the desert, saying 'welcome, most welcome' and drowning each other in tea until the end of time.”
ReplyDeleteWhile in the congenial Arab world, I will take as a given that you did not openly wear a crucifix and/or carry a Bible.
DeleteNot to be rude about it, but you're fucking nuts, Tony.
Deleteit's easy to be courteous after you murder all those you disagree with
DeleteI did not read anything about an intellectual or business boycott, in no uncertain terms. Did I miss that? Pointing out the obvious is not to be incensed.
ReplyDelete...boycott the Olympics... ... ...
DeleteKentucky’s health exchange, kynect.ky.gov, now has enrolled more than 26,000 Kentuckians in less than a month.
ReplyDelete“People who say the Affordable Care Act doesn’t work need look no further than Kentucky. Not only is it working here, Kentuckians are still stampeding to the website and call center to find affordable health coverage,” said Gov. Steve Beshear in a news release.
“The fact that so many Kentuckians are actively seeking health coverage for themselves, their families and their employees tells us that kynect is meeting a gaping need in our state. At long last, every Kentuckian can finally find affordable health insurance.”
As of 11 a.m. Friday, kynect.ky.gov had recorded:
• 305,949 unique visitors to the website, viewing 7.2 million web pages.
• 267,938 people conducting preliminary screenings to determine qualifications for subsidies, discounts or programs such as Medicaid.
• 51,482 applications started.
• 26,174 enrollees in new health coverage, including Medicaid and private insurance.
• 1,607 dental plan enrollees.
In total, the Kentucky exchange has . . . . . . . . . .
KyNect
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DeleteThis is not surprising. It appears the state exchanges are working better than the federal exchange. They (not positive if it is all of them) do not require people to sign up and provide all of the required personal information 'prior' to getting into the system and comparing plans and prices.
During the congressional hearings the contractors on the federal plan mentioned that there are almost 60 separate contractors involved (all of which said their part of the program worked); however, the administration (that is CMS which was responsible for coordinating all the contractors) didn't bother testing the entire system until a couple weeks before launch. The test failed but they launched anyway. Those under oath said all the testing should have started months before launch. However,
One gentleman also testified that one of the biggest problems they were faced with was that a couple weeks before launch the administration required a major change, though the system was set up similar to the state systems where you provide the personal info when you are ready to sign up, the administration demanded that for the federal system you had to provide the personal info in order to get into the system. As Joe Biden would say, "This was a big deal."
Evidently, Obama and his boys in the NSA are more concerned about getting the personal information on millions of Americans than they are interested in launching a massive health care system.
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DeleteThe administration has indicated 700,000 people have applied (not necessarily finalized the application process) between state and federal websites.
However, although they have the total, Ms. Sabelius says they are 'unable' to say how many have applied on the federal sites.
If after nearly a month, Sebelius can't tell us what part of that 700,000 is federal and what part state, she certainly shouldn't be in charge of a program affecting millions of Americans.
The story of the Obama administration. This incident (ACA, Benghazi, NSA, you name it) is not acceptable. I am demanding that my people get to the bottom of it. I can't talk about it right now since I don't want to compromise an ongoing investigation. Those responsible will be held to account. And a year later, the report, committee, audit, you name it, comes out. The result? It was all the GOP's fault.
Nothing to see here. Move along. Oh, by the way, fill out that twelve page document asking for 'some' personal information and your views on important issues of the day on you way out. It won't take long. And after the guards check the data and ask you a few questions, they will issue you an exit permit. Have a nice day. God bless you and the United States of America.
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One hour to kickoff, Vandal fans!
ReplyDeleteIt's on ESPN, by the way.
Delete“كيف يمكن ألا يستطيع الإنسان أن يسير إلى ملكه الخاص؟ أن يزور قبر زوجته؟ أن يأكل ثمار أربعين جيلاً من كدح أسلافه من دون أن يعاقب بالموت رمياً بالرصاص؟ على نحو ما، لم يكن هذا السؤال الفجّ القاسي قد نفذ سابقاً إلي وعي اللاجئين الذين شوشتهم أبدية الانتظار، معلقين آمالهم على قرارات دولية نظرية”
ReplyDeleteIs this a plea for help, Susan, having made the mistake of marrying a muzzie, and getting the hell slapped out of you?
DeleteWe lived near a nice young lady who made the mistake, got the hell beaten out of her, but being in USA, was able to escape via the divorce route.
DeleteNo, you are truly an ignorant man.
Delete“Toughness found fertile soil in the hearts of Palestinians, and the grains of resistance embedded themselves in their skin.
Endurance evolved as a hallmark of refugee society. But the price they paid was the subduing of tender vulnerability.
They learned to celebrate martyrdom. Only martyrdom offered freedom. Only in death were they at last invulnerable to Israel. Martyrdom became the ultimate defiance of Israeli occupation.”
“Do you know, Mother, that Haj Salem was buried alive in his home?
DeleteDoes he tell you stories in heaven now?
I wish I had had a chance to meet him. To see his toothless grin and touch his leathery skin.
To beg him, as you did in your youth, for a story from our Palestine. He was over one hundred years old, Mother.
To have lived so long, only to be crushed to death by a bulldozer.
Is this what it means to be Palestinian?”
“I went to interview some of these early Jewish colonial zealots—written off in those days as mere 'fringe' elements—and found that they called themselves Gush Emunim or—it sounded just as bad in English—'The Bloc of the Faithful.'
ReplyDeleteWhy not just say 'Party of God' and have done with it?
What's wrong with Bloc of the Faithful?
DeleteI kind of like it.
Delete"Party of God", rings true, for you
“Occupation, curfew, settlements, closed military zone, administrative detention, siege, preventive strike, terrorist infrastructure, transfer. Their WAR destroys language. Speaks genocide with the words of a quiet technician.
ReplyDeleteOccupation means that you cannot trust the OPEN SKY, or any open street near to the gates of snipers tower. It means that you cannot trust the future or have faith that the past will always be there.
Occupation means you live out your live under military rule, and the constant threat of death, a quick death from a snipers bullet or a rocket attack from an M16.
A crushing, suffocating death, a slow bleeding death in an ambulance stopped for hours at a checkpoint. A dark death, at a torture table in an Israeli prison: just a random arbitrary death.
A cold calculated death: from a curable disease. A thousand small deaths while you watch your family dying around you.
Occupation means that every day you die, and the world watches in silence. As if your death was nothing, as if you were a stone falling in the earth, water falling over water.
And if you face all of this death and indifference and keep your humanity, and your love and your dignity and YOU refuse to surrender to their terror, then you know something of the courage that is Palestine.”
ReplyDelete“Ghetto living is more than just a feeling of confinement; it is a sense of suffocation too.”
The Other Side of Israel: My Journey Across the Jewish/Arab Divide
“Many signs point to the fact that the youth of the Third World will no longer tolerate living in circumstances that give them no hope for the future.
ReplyDeleteFrom the young boys I met in the demobilization camps in Sierra Leone to the suicide bombers of Palestine and Chechnya, to the young terrorists who fly planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, we can no longer afford to ignore them.
We have to take concrete steps to remove the causes of their rage, or we have to be prepared to suffer the consequences.”
, Shake Hands with the Devil: The Failure of Humanity in Rwanda
“But the thought leaders on talk radio and Fox do more than shape opinion.
ReplyDeleteBacked by their own wing of the book-publishing industry and supported by think tanks that increasingly function as public-relations agencies, conservatives have built a whole alternative knowledge system, with its own facts, its own history, its own laws of economics.”
Four Christians sentenced to 80 lashes for drinking communion wine in Iran
ReplyDeleteA new UN report criticised Iran's persecution of non-Muslims
The four men were arrested at a house church in December as the government cracked down on the practice
Christian Solidarity Worldwide said it 'criminalised the Christian sacrament'
By ALEX WARD
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2476428/Four-Christians-sentenced-80-lashes-drinking-communion-wine-Iran.html#ixzz2is8mvl4C
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Take away the divine warrant for the Holy Land and where were you, and what were you?
ReplyDeleteJust another land-thief like the Turks or the British, except that in this case you wanted the land without the people.
Many of the 'Palestinians' were desert Bedouin burning camel dung for night heat that came in for the jobs the Jews created, Hitch, but I got a game to listen to.
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DeleteMaternal DNA
Richards and his colleagues analyzed mitochondrial DNA, which is contained in the cytoplasm of the egg and passed down only from the mother, from more than 3,500 people throughout the Near East, the Caucusus and Europe, including Ashkenazi Jews.
The team found that four founders were responsible for 40 percent of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA, and that all of these founders originated in Europe. The majority of the remaining people could be traced to other European lineages.
[Israel] was preparing to implement the Prawer Plan, a blueprint for the expulsion of 40,000 indigenous Bedouin citizens of Israel from their ancestral Negev Desert communities that promised to “concentrate” them in state-run, reservation-style townships.
DeleteAuthored by Netanyahu’s planning policy chief, Ehud Prawer, and passed by a majority of the members of the mainstream Israeli political parties in the Knesset, the Prawer Plan is only one element of the government’s emerging program to dominate all space and the lives of all people between the river (the Jordan) and the sea (the Mediterranean).
Expulsions in the Desert
On September 9th, I visited Umm al-Hiran, a village that the state of Israel plans to wipe off the map.
Located in the northern Negev Desert, well behind the Green Line (the 1949 armistice lines that are considered the starting point for any Israeli-Palestinian negotiations) and inside the part of Israel that will be legitimized under a U.S.-brokered two-state solution, the residents of Umm al-Hiran are mobilizing to resist their forced removal.
In the living room of a dusty but impeccably tidy cinderblock home on the outskirts of the village, Hajj al-Ahmed, an aging sheikh,
described to a group of colleagues from the website Mondoweiss and me the experience of the 80,000 Bedouin living in what are classified as “unrecognized” villages.
The products of continuous dispossession, many of these communities are surrounded by petrochemical waste dumps and have been transformed into cancer clusters, while state campaigns of aerial crop destruction and livestock eradication have decimated their sources of subsistence.
Although residents like al-Ahmed carry Israeli citizenship, they are unable to benefit from the public services that Jews in neighboring communities receive.
http://rt.com/usa/nsa-rally-mass-surveillance-786/
ReplyDeleteJoin this group now.
Supporting the fuckin' Russians, you Commie Bastard!
DeleteIsrael, a secular and socialist state that was built upon ...
ReplyDelete... the Three Pillars of Apartheid
The first pillar “derives from Israeli laws and policies that establish Jewish identity for purposes of law and afford a preferential legal status and material benefits to Jews over non-Jews.”
The second pillar is reflected in
ReplyDelete“Israel’s ‘grand’ policy to fragment the OPT [and] ...
... ensure that Palestinians remain confined to the reserves designated for them ...
... while Israeli Jews are prohibited from entering those reserves but enjoy freedom of movement...
... throughout the rest of the Palestinian territory.
This policy is evidenced by Israel’s extensive appropriation of Palestinian land,
which continues to shrink the territorial space available to Palestinians;
the hermetic closure and isolation of the Gaza Strip from the rest of the OPT;
the deliberate severing of East Jerusalem from the rest of the West Bank;
and the appropriation and construction policies serving to carve up the West Bank ...
... into an intricate and well-serviced network of connected settlements for Jewish-Israelis ...
... and an archipelago of besieged and non-contiguous enclaves for Palestinians.”
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The third pillar is
“Israel’s invocation of ‘security’ to validate sweeping restrictions on Palestinian freedom of ...
... opinion, expression, assembly, association and movement [to] mask a true underlying intent ...
... to suppress dissent to its system of domination and thereby maintain control over Palestinians as a group.”
150 years of misunderstanding the Civil War
ReplyDeleteThis week, to mark the 150th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg, pilgrims will crowd Little Round Top and the High Water Mark of Pickett’s Charge. Venture beyond these famous shrines to battlefield valor and you’ll find quiet sites like Iverson’s Pits, which recall the inglorious reality of Civil War combat.
On July 1, 1863, Alfred Iverson ordered his brigade of North Carolinians across an open field. The soldiers marched in tight formation until Union riflemen suddenly rose from behind a stone wall and opened fire. Five hundred rebels fell dead or wounded “on a line as straight as a dress parade,” Iverson reported. “They nobly fought and died without a man running to the rear. No greater gallantry and heroism has been displayed during this war.”
Soldiers told a different story: of being “sprayed by the brains” of men shot in front of them, or hugging the ground and waving white kerchiefs. One survivor informed the mother of a comrade that her son was “shot between the eye and ear” while huddled in a muddy swale. Of others in their ruined unit he wrote: “Left arm was cut off, I think he will die … his left thigh hit and it was cut off.” An artilleryman described one row of 79 North Carolinians executed by a single volley, their dead feet perfectly aligned. “Great God! When will this horrid war stop?” he wrote. The living rolled the dead into shallow trenches — hence the name Iverson’s Pits, now a grassy expanse more visited by ghost-hunters than battlefield tourists.
This and other scenes of unromantic slaughter aren’t likely to get much notice during the Gettysburg sesquicentennial, the high-water mark of Civil War remembrance. Instead, we’ll hear a lot about Joshua Chamberlain’s heroism and Lincoln’s hallowing of the Union dead.
It’s hard to argue with the Gettysburg Address, but in recent years, historians have rubbed much of the luster from the Civil War and questioned its sanctification.
Should we consecrate a war that killed and maimed more than 1 million Americans?
Or should we question, as many have in recent conflicts, whether this was really a war of necessity that justified its appalling costs?
The US Civil War was more than a literary dispute, much more than a wind riffle in history.
“We’ve decided the Civil War is a ‘good war’ because it destroyed slavery,” says Fitzhugh Brundage, a historian at the University of North Carolina. “I think it’s an indictment of 19th-century Americans that they had to slaughter each other to do that.”
DeleteSimilar reservations were voiced by an earlier generation of historians known as revisionists.
From the 1920s to ’40s, they argued that the war was not an inevitable clash over irreconcilable issues.
Rather, it was a needless bloodbath, the fault of blundering statesmen and pious cranks, mainly abolitionists.
Some revisionists, haunted by World War I, cast all war as irrational, even psychopathic.
World War II undercut this anti-war stance. Nazism was an evil that had to be fought.
So, too, was slavery, which revisionists, many of them white Southerners, had cast as a relatively benign institution and dismissed as a genuine source of sectional conflict. Historians who came of age during the civil rights movement placed slavery and emancipation at the center of the Civil War.
This trend is now reflected in textbooks and popular culture.
The Civil War today is generally seen as a necessary and ennobling sacrifice, redeemed by the liberation of 4 million slaves.
Cracks in this consensus are appearing with growing frequency, for example in studies like America Aflame, by historian David Goldfield.
Goldfield states on the first page that the war was “America’s greatest failure.”
He goes on to impeach politicians, extremists and the influence of evangelical Christianity for polarizing the nation to the point where compromise or reasoned debate became impossible.
Unlike the revisionists of old, Goldfield sees slavery as the bedrock of the Southern cause and abolition as the war’s great achievement.
He argues that white supremacy was so entrenched, North and South, that war and Reconstruction could never deliver true racial justice to freed slaves, who soon became subject to economic peonage, Black Codes, Jim Crow and rampant lynching.
Nor did the war knit the nation back together.
Instead, the South became a stagnant backwater, a resentful region that lagged and resisted the nation’s progress.
It took a century and the civil rights struggle for blacks to achieve legal equality and for the South to emerge from poverty and isolation.
“Emancipation and reunion, the two great results of this war, were badly compromised,” Goldfield says.
Given these equivocal gains, and the immense toll in blood and treasure, he asks: “Was the war worth it? No.”
Lincoln, among many others, advocated the gradual and compensated emancipation of slaves. This had been done in the British West Indies and would later end slavery in Brazil and Cuba. In theory, it could have worked here.
DeleteEconomists have calculated that the cost of the Civil War, estimated at over $10 billion in 1860 dollars, would have been more than enough to buy the freedom of every slave, purchase them land and even pay reparations.
But Lincoln’s proposals for compensated emancipation fell on deaf ears, ...
even in wartime Delaware, which was behind Union lines and clung to only 2,000 slaves, about 1.5 percent of the state’s population.
From the distance of 150 years, Lincoln’s transcendent vision at Gettysburg of a “new birth of freedom” seems premature.
DeleteHe himself acknowledged the limits of remembrance.
Rather than simply consecrate the dead with words, he said, ...
it is for “us the living” to rededicate ourselves to the unfinished work of the Civil War.
“We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.”
DeleteThe South - The Land of Stupid.
DeleteThey keep saying it maimed and killed 1 million Americans. Actually it was a half-million Americans, and the rest were traitors.
DeleteConfederate States of AMERICA, Ms T.
DeleteEvery Confederate was an American.
Most of the Union troops, they were Irish.
Look, here it is again, rat droppings!
ReplyDeleteThat rat is EVERYWHERE!
Deuce enjoys Rat's posting of the same tired posts....
ReplyDelete:)
Tired, you don't have any idea, of the meaning of the word.
DeleteWe at the Hegemony of Character have just begun the march against you fascists.
A Tyranny of the Majority is not democracy.
A dictatorship by any other name ...
... still a dictatorship.
Faux elections and installing political poppets to police the Palestinians will not long suffice.
Or, as they say in Israel ...
Deletewaa, waa, waa.
You sound like a broken record, WiO.
You may need another record player, one that does not skip so much.
It could be the needle, you may want to replace the needle.
Then you would not need a new record player, it's cheaper to replace the needle if that is the problem.
:):):):)
it speaks to a deficit of character, a lack of a real life.
Deleteall proven here at the blog.
Rat droppings...
Better to be doing the dropping than tracking after the turds.
DeleteThey have to be tangy and tasty, for you to spend your time chasing after them.
Relish the flavor, you must.
Keeps his nose to the grind stone, sniffing out rat shit!
DeleteNow that's LIVING!
Living the Good Life!
Sniffing up a rat's ass!
rat's losing it.
DeleteLOL
Now that's entertainment.
It's half time in Oxford, Mississippi, Vandal fans.
ReplyDeleteOl' Miss 24
Idaho 7
I must have fallen asleep as I don't recall the Vandies scoring.
Oxford is said to have the best and best dressed tail gate party in the nation.
Ol' Miss front 4 defensive line averages over 300 pounds. Our guys hit 'em and bounce back.
Going to be long second half.
They got the subs in now.
GO VANDALS!!
Some fool with a sign that said: Blog Libertarian/Support OCare/Rufus was hauled out by the police for disorderly and drinking out of a keg of Bud and not sharing. This occurred early in the first quarter.
DeleteMy Vandals just suck big donkey dicks!
ReplyDeleteVandals - 7 & Ole Miss - 24
George Patton was right, America loves a winner
Cannot abide a LOSER like Idaho!
A voice from beyond the grave, spoke to me
An eternal truth revealed!
bobbo, lover of losers
It's only the second quarter, we can lose by more!
DeleteESPN, this game is going to be in the toilet, as far as viewership and ratings go.
It is just the shits for Idaho fans, who wants to watch a drumming like this?
Rufus will be eating it up, makes me look the fool to have hyped this game.
Two above not The Real Bobbo.
DeleteBut it's true,we will lose by a lot more.
I soooo hoped we would go 0-11 this year, a mark of distinction, but still hoping for that 1-10!! Which ain't that bad, and I don't see a win on the rest of the schedule.
We call it 'a rebuilding year' out this way. As all our years are rebuilding years.
GO VANDALS!!
The Real Bobbo is expert at bobbing on the big donkey dick that is Vandal football!
DeleteGO VANDALS!!
That is quite crude, Sir. And says more about you than I.
Deletebobbo
Here we go, Ol' Miss 31, Idaho 7.
ReplyDeleteGo Vandals!!
Now we are going good -
ReplyDeleteOl' Miss 38
Idaho 7
Fumble returned for touchdown.
Go Vandals!!
"Rufus" has been returned to stadium, without the keg of Bud, but with two large plastic cups of beer. Well dressed in a misfitting tux, with sloppy bow tie, straw hat, working boots and cigar, he looks to be having a good time
DeleteStill has his sign.
DeleteIdaho just scored on a long pass!!!! 65 yards!!!!
Ol' Miss 38
Idaho 14
Score on 4th and 3.
6 1/2 minutes to go in 3rd quarter.
GO VANDALS!