Sunday, August 18, 2013

Sister Manal is the principal of the Franciscan school in Bani Suef. She was having breakfast with two visiting nuns when news broke of the clearance of the two sit-in camps by police, killing hundreds. In an ordeal that lasted about six hours, she, sisters Abeer and Demiana and a handful of school employees saw a mob break into the school through the wall and windows, loot its contents, knock off the cross on the street gate and replace it with a black banner resembling the flag of al-Qaida.

Here is Kerry imploring Mubarak to step aside  for The Muslim Brotherhood:



Here is Clinton imploring Mubarak to step aside  for The Muslim Brotherhood:



Here is genius Obama imploring Mubarak to step aside  for The Muslim Brotherhood:


 
Here is what Mubarak told Obama about what would happen if he steps aside  and what will happenwith The Muslim Brotherhood:





Egypt's Islamists target Christian churches, schools in backlash as chaos spreads
Published August 18, 2013
Associated Press

CAIRO –  After torching a Franciscan school, Islamists paraded three nuns on the streets like "prisoners of war" before a Muslim woman offered them refuge. Two other women working at the school were sexually harassed and abused as they fought their way through a mob.

In the four days since security forces cleared two sit-in camps by supporters of Egypt's ousted president, Islamists have attacked dozens of Coptic churches along with homes and businesses owned by the Christian minority. The campaign of intimidation appears to be a warning to Christians outside Cairo to stand down from political activism.

Christians have long suffered from discrimination and violence in Muslim majority Egypt, where they make up 10 percent of the population of 90 million. Attacks increased after the Islamists rose to power in the wake of the 2011 Arab Spring uprising that drove Hosni Mubarak from power, emboldening extremists. But Christians have come further under fire since President Mohammed Morsi was ousted on July 3, sparking a wave of Islamist anger led by Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood.

Nearly 40 churches have been looted and torched, while 23 others have been attacked and heavily damaged since Wednesday, when chaos erupted after Egypt's military-backed interim administration moved in to clear two camps packed with protesters calling for Morsi's reinstatement, killing scores of protesters and sparking deadly clashes nationwide.

One of the world's oldest Christian communities has generally kept a low-profile, but has become more politically active since Mubarak was ousted and Christians sought to ensure fair treatment in the aftermath.

Many Morsi supporters say Christians played a disproportionately large role in the days of mass rallies, with millions demanding that he step down ahead of the coup.

Despite the violence, Egypts Coptic Christian church renewed its commitment to the new political order Friday, saying in a statement that it stood by the army and the police in their fight against "the armed violent groups and black terrorism."

While the Christians of Egypt have endured attacks by extremists, they have drawn closer to moderate Muslims in some places, in a rare show of solidarity.

Hundreds from both communities thronged two monasteries in the province of Bani Suef south of Cairo to thwart what they had expected to be imminent attacks on Saturday, local activist Girgis Waheeb said. Activists reported similar examples elsewhere in regions south of Cairo, but not enough to provide effective protection of churches and monasteries.

Waheeb, other activists and victims of the latest wave of attacks blame the police as much as hard-line Islamists for what happened. The attacks, they said, coincided with assaults on police stations in provinces like Bani Suef and Minya, leaving most police pinned down to defend their stations or reinforcing others rather than rushing to the rescue of Christians under attack.

Another Christian activist, Ezzat Ibrahim of Minya, a province also south of Cairo where Christians make up around 35 percent of the population, said police have melted away from seven of the regions nine districts, leaving the extremists to act with near impunity.

Two Christians have been killed since Wednesday, including a taxi driver who strayed into a protest by Morsi supporters in Alexandria and another man who was shot to death by Islamists in the southern province of Sohag, according to security officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to release the information.

The attacks served as a reminder that Islamists, while on the defensive in Cairo, maintain influence and the ability to stage violence in provincial strongholds with a large minority of Christians.

Gamaa Islamiya, the hard-line Islamist group that wields considerable influence in provinces south of Cairo, denied any link to the attacks. The Muslim Brotherhood, which has led the defiant protest against Morsi's ouster, has condemned the attacks, spokesman Mourad Ali said.

Sister Manal is the principal of the Franciscan school in Bani Suef. She was having breakfast with two visiting nuns when news broke of the clearance of the two sit-in camps by police, killing hundreds. In an ordeal that lasted about six hours, she, sisters Abeer and Demiana and a handful of school employees saw a mob break into the school through the wall and windows, loot its contents, knock off the cross on the street gate and replace it with a black banner resembling the flag of al-Qaida.

By the time the Islamists ordered them out, fire was raging at every corner of the 115-year-old main building and two recent additions. Money saved for a new school was gone, said Manal, and every computer, projector, desk and chair was hauled away. Frantic SOS calls to the police, including senior officers with children at the school, produced promises of quick response but no one came.

The Islamists gave her just enough time to grab some clothes.

In an hourlong telephone interview with The Associated Press, Manal, 47, recounted her ordeal while trapped at the school with others as the fire raged in the ground floor and a battle between police and Islamists went on out on the street. At times she was overwhelmed by the toxic fumes from the fire in the library or the whiffs of tears gas used by the police outside.

Sister Manal recalled being told a week earlier by the policeman father of one pupil that her school was targeted by hard-line Islamists convinced that it was giving an inappropriate education to Muslim children. She paid no attention, comfortable in the belief that a school that had an equal number of Muslim and Christian pupils could not be targeted by Muslim extremists. She was wrong.

The school has a high-profile location. It is across the road from the main railway station and adjacent to a busy bus terminal that in recent weeks attracted a large number of Islamists headed to Cairo to join the larger of two sit-in camps by Morsi's supporters. The area of the school is also in one of Bani Suef's main bastions of Islamists from Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood and ultraconservative Salafis.

"We are nuns. We rely on God and the angels to protect us," she said. "At the end, they paraded us like prisoners of war and hurled abuse at us as they led us from one alley to another without telling us where they were taking us," she said. A Muslim woman who once taught at the school spotted Manal and the two other nuns as they walked past her home, attracting a crowd of curious onlookers.

"I remembered her, her name is Saadiyah. She offered to take us in and said she can protect us since her son-in-law was a policeman. We accepted her offer," she said. Two Christian women employed by the school, siblings Wardah and Bedour, had to fight their way out of the mob, while groped, hit and insulted by the extremists. "I looked at that and it was very nasty," said Manal.

The incident at the Franciscan school was repeated at Minya where a Catholic school was razed to the ground by an arson attack and a Christian orphanage was also torched.

"I am terrified and unable to focus," said Boulos Fahmy, the pastor of a Catholic church a short distance away from Manal's school. "I am expecting an attack on my church any time now," he said Saturday.

Bishoy Alfons Naguib, a 33-year-old businessman from Minya, has a similarly harrowing story.

His home supplies store on a main commercial street in the provincial capital, also called Minya, was torched this week and the flames consumed everything inside.
"A neighbor called me and said the store was on fire. When I arrived, three extremists with knifes approached me menacingly when they realized I was the owner," recounted Naguib. His father and brother pleaded with the men to spare him. Luckily, he said, someone shouted that a Christian boy was filming the proceedings using his cell phone, so the crowd rushed toward the boy shouting "Nusrani, Nusrani," the Quranic word for Christians which has become a derogatory way of referring to them in today's Egypt.
Naguib ran up a nearby building where he has an apartment and locked himself in. After waiting there for a while, he left the apartment, ran up to the roof and jumped to the next door building, then exited at a safe distance from the crowd.

"On our Mustafa Fahmy street, the Islamists had earlier painted a red X on Muslim stores and a black X on Christian stores," he said. "You can be sure that the ones with a red X are intact."

In Fayoum, an oasis province southwest of Cairo, Islamists looted and torched five churches, according to Bishop Ibram, the local head of the Coptic Orthodox church, by far the largest of Egypt's Christian denominations. He said he had instructed Christians and clerics alike not to try to resist the mobs of Islamists, fearing any loss of life.
"The looters were so diligent that they came back to one of the five churches they had ransacked to see if they can get more," he told the AP. "They were loading our chairs and benches on trucks and when they had no space for more, they destroyed them."


193 comments:

  1. I'll await for Rufus II's opinion before I Kum To a judgement about this.

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  2. The three architects on US foreign policy:

    Kerry, Clinton and the Duffer

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    1. I can't keep that sexy picture of him doing Body English on a Putt at Martha's outta my mind.

      Me and Rufie.

      Suckers for and of thin Black Cocks.

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      The Putt and the Presidential Mutt.

      Airlifted care of us.

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    2. Glad to see you have come to MY pov about the middle east, or at least parts of it.

      The reality? America's interests are not served in pandering to Islamic Nazis. America can kiss their ass, fund them, support them and they wills till want to murder us.

      America supports Israel as it is the ONLY representative democracy that SHARES the good values of America. (Look beyond Obama and company and try to REMEMBER the America most of us love and respect)

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  3. The Revenge of the “False Choice”

    The NYT’s description of how US officials begged and pleaded with the Egyptian military to avoid a showdown with the Muslim Brotherhood to no avail is full of pathos in more ways than one. It describes how senior American officials, who once bestrode the world were reduced to groveling. How the mighty had fallen. Not only did the US consent to be ignored, Obama paid for the privilege.

    American and European diplomats trying to defuse the volatile standoff in Egypt thought they had a breakthrough … Two senators visiting Cairo, John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, met with Gen. Abdul-Fattah el-Sisi, the officer who ousted Mr. Morsi and appointed the new government, and the interim prime minister, Hazem el-Beblawi, and pushed for the release of the two prisoners. But the Egyptians brushed them off. …

    (probly tokin on 'Rat's Bong)


    All of the efforts of the United States government, all the cajoling, the veiled threats, the high-level envoys from Washington and the 17 personal phone calls by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, failed to forestall the worst political bloodletting in modern Egyptian history. The generals in Cairo felt free to ignore the Americans first on the prisoner release and then on the statement, in a cold-eyed calculation that they would not pay a significant cost — a conclusion bolstered when President Obama responded by canceling a joint military exercise but not $1.5 billion in annual aid.

    They had Obama over a barrel. How did he get there? Because, in the view of the NYT, he insisted on a higher moral standard than heretofore tolerated by previous US administrations.

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    Foreign Policy drily noted that the dictator “President Laurent Gbagbo’s Ivorian Popular Front is still listed as a member”, despite the fact that at the time Mubarak was expelled, Gbagbo was under indictment from the International Criminal Court for four counts of crimes against humanity – murder, rape and other forms of sexual violence, persecution and “other inhuman acts”.

    But if one came from the tradition that produced Stalin, the Bros could trace their distinguished lineage back to the National Socialist Party. Wikipedia says “Links to the Nazis began during the 1930s and were close during the Second World War, involving agitation against the British, espionage and sabotage, as well as support for terrorist activities orchestrated by Haj Amin el-Hussaini in British Mandate Palestine, as a wide range of declassified documents from the British, American and Nazi German governmental archives, as well as from personal accounts and memoires from that period, confirm. Reflecting this connection the Muslim Brotherhood also disseminated Hitler’s Mein Kampf and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion widely in Arab translations, helping to deepen and extend already existing hostile views about Jews and Western societies generally.”

    Barry Rubin of PJMedia is less restrained in his characterization. “There are huge amounts of archival evidence, including documents showing not only Nazi payments to the Brotherhood but also that the Nazis provided them with arms for a rebellion to kill Christians and Jews in Egypt. … There is no evidence that the Brotherhood has changed its positions.”

    Thus the authoritarianism, the church-burning, the virulent anti-semitism of the Bros should not have been in the least surprising. What was surprising was that it was surprising to the State Department. Nick Cohen of the Guardian, unable to choose sides in a convention of black hats, resort to legalities. “We may despise the Muslim Brotherhood, but a coup is a coup.” He adds, “Europe and the US need to accept that the Muslim Brotherhood may be foul, but it did not abolish democracy”. How could they when they probably never heard of it?

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    1. The Grand Mufti, Arafat's uncle, spent the war years in Germany. By his influence and efforts, he helped form several Islamic SS divisions. Moreover, he was catalytic in the planning and implementation of the Jewish "Final Solution." To this end he supplied Jew hunters and executioners.

      Of course, none of this would have been possible without the ebullient volunteerism of the people of the Balkans and Eastern Europe. The Mufti might have had equal success in the US where a Sep 1944 poll showed Americans thought as most dangerous 1) Jews (26%), 2) Japanese (11%) and 3) Germans (9%).

      Fascism has been defined as rapacious crony, monopolistic capitalism working within a vicious totalitarian political system.

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    2. Fast forward to 1948 and the UN partition. Many of the NAZI indoctrinated fanatic Muslims were determined to finish the work that Hitler had begun.

      Recall that the Muslim Brotherhood was established in 1928, contemporaries of the NAZIs of Europe. The MB leadership was taken with Hitler's "Mein Kamph" and widely disseminated it in Arabic. It became, if you will, a secular amplification of the Quran. Even today Mein Kamph" is a best seller in the Arab book market.

      It was against this backdrop that the Jews fought the war of 1948-1949.

      As an aside, by 1948, Jews had purchased over the years about 500,000 acres of land. Deeds came with these purchases. Among those deeds was one that covered about 1/2 the current Golan Heights. A study done by the Brits in 1930 found that the Jews were paying about $1,100 per acre; an acre of prime farmland in Iowa at the same time went for about $110.00 per acre. In terms of the market, Arabs were liberally compensated for their real estate.

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    3. shhh dont confuse the Israel haters with facts.

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  4. Watch the fourth video where Mubarak tells the horse’s ass that leads us about what will follow his departure.

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  5. I always knew it was The Elders of Zion's fault.

    Genius has it's costs.

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    1. Lester Crown, he crowned O'blunder prezy.

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    2. (Picturing O's heroic Single Mom's crowning moment in the moments before the arrival of
      The Won.)

      The Kum-ing never stops.

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    3. No, dimwit, Mr Crown did not MAKE obama the President, he merely funded Obama's career as a Chi~town politico.

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    4. The return on his 'investment', well. Let's say it was better than an IRA, a Detroit City pension, a 401K or even a Deed of Trust.

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    5. desert rat,

      go smoke a bowl and shoot some guns...

      that's what you are good for.

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  6. The Egyptian military should get Mubarak out of where ever he is and give him a position as an adviser during this transition.

    Assuming he is still alive, of course. He is, is he not?

    He have total idiots running things.

    The whole world is laughing.

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    1. Mubarak is no longer a capable man. He is elderly and his cognient capacity has diminished. He couldn't lead Egypt, he couldn't even wipe his own ass. That's what happens to the elderly, they lose their ability to think, act or even clean their own shit off their ass. 'Old Timer's', that's the name that is applied to those that have the symptomns

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    2. Hey are you not about to join that club?

      Bad memory, lost your ability to think and as for the shit on your ass? Dont want to even think about it.

      I bet the horses hate you riding on them however...

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  7. Obama, Kerry and Clinton: America’s finest.

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    1. As Scoundrels, they are World Class, to be sure.

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    2. Great Michenor Fast Read: (what'd you expect from doug?)

      Rascals in Paradise.

      ...required reading by Professor Norman Sanders, member of Aussie Parliment.

      Sailor, Pilot, Pioneer Environmentalist.

      Rufus will Kum and never Go.

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    3. Rascals in Paradise is a 1957 collection of ten historical non-fiction short stories co-written by James A. Michener (1907-1997) and University of Hawaii professor Arthur Grove Day (1904-1994).

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    4. Jeeze Louise, check out his output:

      A girl in my Algebra II class was reading "Hawaii" while I raised shit.

      She got straight A's

      ...I got by.

      Read Solzyshitsun too, now that I think about it.

      At least I can RIP knowing she's fat and I'm not.

      Plus, she became a teacher. :-(

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    5. Spread a Little Aloha Around the World

      ...I'd rather be in Antarctica w/her.

      (NOT the straight A Fatty!)

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    1. What this country needs is a Court Jester, in the old sense. Someone to make high mockery and dispense sound advice at the same time to those currently at the top of the pyramid. These days, even some rodeo clown in an Obama mask gets run over by the bus for having some good fun, that the crowd was totally into. At a County Fair.

      Our Troika of Fools think way too highly of themselves, and need to be brought down about 100 notches.

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    2. August 18, 2013
      Send in the Clowns
      Fay Voshell

      >>>>Even the Queen of England saw the need to consider the question, "What kind of fool am I?"
      As Suzannah Lipscomb points out, Elizabeth's father, Henry VIII, also had at court a fool by the name of Will Somer, a man who used wit to cajole the king out of his dark humors, but who also could be relied on to tell the temperamental and erratic king the truth.

      She writes, "When most around the king were yes-men, Henry could rely on Will Somer and other fools to speak honestly. We have evidence of him being able to change Henry VIII's mind. These special qualities of fools -- their ability to bring mirth and their relationship to truth -- explains their privileged, hallowed status[.]"

      The tradition of the clownish fool who tells the truth has waxed and waned, but it has continued in some form or another until this day, be it in the form of the late-night comedian or, more recently, the anonymous rodeo clown (Tuffy Gessling's protégé ) who made the mistake of wearing an Obama mask to poke fun of POTUS.<<<<



      Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/08/send_in_the_clowns.html#ixzz2cLb6PNQ9

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    3. New 'Information' Revives Princess Diana Conspiracy Theories

      A healthy gust of wind just filled the sails of H.M.S. Princess Diana Conspiracy Theories: Scotland Yard has new information pertaining to her death, and that information may or may not allege that the late Princess of Wales was murdered by a member of the British military. In any case, the reports are already opening the door to a comeback for the long-discredited theory that Prince Philip ordered a hit on Princess Diana.

      First, here's the actual statement from police over what's going on right now:

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    4. Rufie's on his way from Missisip to the Show Me State to Show That Clown What Is.

      ...rest easy.

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  9. Kerry's sexier than Obama.

    If that makes me racist, so be it.

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    1. Huma is way sexier than Hillary.

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    2. Maybe into some for Muslim's only Bondage, too, for whatever we don't know.

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  10. That Hair!

    ...the boy from hope is butt a pale grey shadow.

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  11. Mass. accent don't hurt.

    ...and THE KETSUP!

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  12. (...hooking my genitals up to the Edison Dynamo as I type.)

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  13. Wretchard

    You can lose democracy even in America or Europe. People warn about the impending death of democracy in the US, but for actual empirical instance of its demise in Europe we need only recall the decades leading to World War 2.

    Democracy requires a culture and respect for checks and balances that take a while to build. But to essay it with these bricks of straw was always going to be hard.

    Someone said that the easiest way to discredit a good idea is to put a scoundrel in charge of proselytizing it. And perhaps the worst outcome of this fiasco is that democracy, which is usually a good thing, has come to be tainted with a bad odor.

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    Peter B

    Not only that, but the US has deftly maneuvered Egypt back into being a Russian client. I guess that was just one more bad effect of US hegemony and the end of the Cold War.

    What a good thing that's over.

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  14. Ford F-150 best seller for 36 years.

    ...Rufus considers Suicide.


    Kid has a double cab.

    Carolla, a Supercharged Dually for towing Neuman Cars.

    The Inhumanity!

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    1. Wish I had his bucks.

      ...as I cram this poor old bod into our tiny Carolla.

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    2. Even Rufie's Flex Fuel would be an improvement.

      ...as long as it can run on Indonesian Gas.

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  15. stardog"

    Interesting, isn't it, that the idealist Obama is reduced to dealing with such sordid realities. Maybe that explains his incompetence. It really isn't his cup of tea. And yet it's ironic that the fascist MB is more to his liking than the descendants of the Socialist Party.

    We thought he was a Socialist, suspected (from the evidence of his own words) he was a Muslim. I guess this is what you get when two opposing worlds collide.

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    1. "I said,

      WHO's THAT!
      "

      ("nobody")

      :-)

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    2. ...down in the Creek, in full view of the dirt road above.

      Those were the daze.

      Rat sucks on his hookah, in awe.

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  17. blert



    Qatar actually was going broke financing their jihad.

    Consequently, the old man was turfed out; just a few months back, too.

    I expect that it's all down dune for Qatar from here on.

    Ramping production of fracked gas in North America, the Leviathan field under the Med (Israel) and competition from Russia must limit Qatar's peak production of LNG exports.

    Even the Red Chinese and Indian markets figure to evaporate

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    Rufie Sobs

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    1. Doc friend of mine was a Medic.

      ("I held men's lives in my hands")

      ...little did I know, being a dumbshit university/MSM guy.

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  19. The simple pleasures of getting away

    It's 36 years since Voyager 1 was dispatched in 1977 on a mission to send back images of Jupiter's turbulent atmosphere and volcanic eruptions on one of its moons, Io. Then it was due to travel on to Saturn to examine that planet's intricate system of rings and moons. But after travelling more than 11bn miles, where is Voyager now? No one, it seems, knows for sure.

    Nasa scientists including Edward Stone, the father of the programme at Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, say Voyager 1 has yet to pass beyond the reach of our sun's radiation. But a controversial study published last week in the Astrophysical Journal claims Nasa scientists misinterpreted magnetic field data and the satellite passed beyond the boundary known as the heliosheath a year ago. Put another way, Voyager 1 has left the solar system.

    According to Marc Swisdak, an astrophysics researcher at the University of Maryland and lead author of the study, Voyager 1 made that giant leap on 27 July 2012, when it recorded a permanent drop in heliosphere-produced particles and an increase in galactic cosmic rays from outside the solar system.

    "Our three lines of data are consistent with Voyager being outside the solar system," Swisdak told the Observer last week. "There's a class of particles generated within the solar system and we're not seeing them any more. Then there's the question of the magnetic field. You can get outside the solar system without seeing too much of a shift in the data." As Voyager clears the distortion, he says, the magnetic data will begin to conform.

    "This is the first opportunity to take actual direct measurements of the particles and the magnetic fields," said Swisdak. "Instead of a indirect, complicated chains of arguments, we can say what's actually out there – and that's something rare in astronomy. Voyager is allowing us to see what's really out there."

    Nasa has yet to confirm the finding. Scientists at the California Institute of Technology, led by Stone, believe the craft is travelling through a mysterious region at the edge of the heliosphere. They have said they will know Voyager has left the solar system when magnetic fields emanate from the long arms of our galaxy, not the sun.

    But after running 100,000 processor hours of computer simulations on a Berkeley supercomputer called Hopper, Swisdak's team claim Nasa is failing to account for "magnetic reconnection" – when opposing magnetic field lines come together, snap and form new connections. They hypothesise that the magnetic fields of the sun and of interstellar space join in "magnetic islands" that make the border uneven.

    Their study echoes claims made earlier this year – and dismissed by Nasa – in the journal of the American Geophysical Union that Voyager had travelled outside the solar system. This time Nasa has taken a more measured approach. "The Voyager 1 spacecraft is exploring a region no spacecraft has ever been to before," said Stone. “We will continue to look for any further developments over the coming months and years as Voyager explores an uncharted frontier."

    {…]

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  20. {…}
    Conceived of to take advantage of a rare alignment of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune that occurs once every 175 years, Nasa's original programme was designed for a "Grand Tour" of the solar system by harnessing the gravity of one planet to swing to the next. The mission's two probes, Voyagers 1 and 2, used satellites designed to last just five years. Yet they sail on, at 55,000km/h, their cameras shut down and using only essential instruments to ration power from their plutonium batteries that are expected to last until around 2020.

    Scientists have estimated that in 40,000 years each spacecraft will be in the neighbourhood of other stars and about two light years from the sun.

    Famously, each carries a phonograph record – a 12-inch gold-plated copper disc – containing 115 images and a variety of natural sounds and spoken greetings from Earth in 55 languages, along with messages from the then US president, Jimmy Carter, and UN secretary general Kurt Waldheim.

    Leaving the solar system, Stone told Scientific American, will be "a milestone in human activity".

    Both Voyagers will likely outlive Earth, he added: when, billions of years from now, the sun swells into a red giant, the Voyagers, albeit without power, will continue on course for the unknown.

    Swisdak says: "Nothing comes close to Voyager in terms of interplanetary missions. They wanted to look at Jupiter and Saturn. Then, using a little wizardry, they got Voyager 2 to go by Uranus and Neptune. But nobody ever dreamed we'd get a look at interstellar space."

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    1. The ultimate Benefit to Cost Masterpiece.

      Rat calls it all bunk.

      ...and takes a toke.

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    2. The kid and his high speed telescopes are tracking orbiting objects, not the moon, Rat, for what it's worth.

      ...that and incoming ICBM's and the like.

      Aegis and Barking Sands ain't shit to some, but we don't all smoke weed.

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    3. "The Exploration of Venus

      The first successful flyby of the Planet Venus was accomplished by Mariner 2 in 1962."

      ---

      5 years after Sputnik!

      We didn't take forever to do nothing, back in the day.

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    4. The Peanut carries on in interstellar space.

      I Wonder why that Plutonium Power Source can't continue to operate the Cameras?

      I'd like to have seen Venus's backside.

      heh, heh, heh.

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    5. 100,000 hours of Federally funded computer time, wasted.
      The Hopper, nothing better for it to do than torun 'models'.

      Why not have it run climate change 'models' instead?

      Both are 'science'.

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    6. aka known as "Survival" back in the day.

      Although some knew better all along, and knew that Star Wars was impossible.

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    7. Why do you toke the Weed, Rat?

      ...just curious.

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    8. Voyager I & II, Pioneer 10 & 11 will say we were here long after plate tectonics have buried all evidence that we were. I find that to be a noble gesture.

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    9. How would The Rat propose to make some of his phone calls if our satellites were regularly getting knocked out of the "sky" by untracked space debris?

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    10. I wouldn't make the calls, doug.

      Don't like phones, as it is.

      Besides, it is not the tracking of space junk that is objectionable, it is the inflated costs the US pays to do it.

      There is no reason your boy should be so generously compensated by the government. An Army PFC could do the job, for $20,000 a year.

      Not that your kid is the cause, but merely a visible effect.

      As to why smoke? It is less injurious than whiskey, vodka or beer.

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    1. That Argentine Hoader I mentioned gave me a Pelton Wheel.

      ...never got around to plumbing it up.

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  22. August 18, 2013
    The war against Copts in Egypt escalates
    Rick Moran

    According to this Associated Press report, 40 Coptic Christian churches in Egypt have been either torched or severely damaged just since Wednesday.

    Most of the attacks have occured away from Cairo and the watchful eyes of the western press. In other provinces, it is clear that Islamists control the streets and police have, if not facilitated some of these attacks by standing by and doing nothing, are powerless to intercede because they, too, are under assault.

    After torching a Franciscan school, Islamists paraded three nuns on the streets like "prisoners of war" before a Muslim woman offered them refuge. Two other women working at the school were sexually harassed and abused as they fought their way through a mob.

    In the four days since security forces cleared two sit-in camps by supporters of Egypt's ousted president, Islamists have attacked dozens of Coptic churches along with homes and businesses owned by the Christian minority. The campaign of intimidation appears to be a warning to Christians outside Cairo to stand down from political activism.

    Christians have long suffered from discrimination and violence in Muslim majority Egypt, where they make up 10 percent of the population of 90 million. Attacks increased after the Islamists rose to power in the wake of the 2011 Arab Spring uprising that drove Hosni Mubarak from power, emboldening extremists. But Christians have come further under fire since President Mohammed Morsi was ousted on July 3, sparking a wave of Islamist anger led by Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood.

    Nearly 40 churches have been looted and torched, while 23 others have been attacked and heavily damaged since Wednesday, when chaos erupted after Egypt's military-backed interim administration moved in to clear two camps packed with protesters calling for Morsi's reinstatement, killing scores of protesters and sparking deadly clashes nationwide.

    One of the world's oldest Christian communities has generally kept a low-profile, but has become more politically active since Mubarak was ousted and Christians sought to ensure fair treatment in the aftermath.

    Many Morsi supporters say Christians played a disproportionately large role in the days of mass rallies, with millions demanding that he step down ahead of the coup.

    Despite the violence, Egypt's Coptic Christian church renewed its commitment to the new political order Friday, saying in a statement that it stood by the army and the police in their fight against "the armed violent groups and black terrorism."

    Defense minister Col. Gen. Abdel Fattah El-Sisi has vowed to rebuild at least some of the churches, but it hardly matters when the government can't guarantee the safety of Christians in majority Muslim communities.

    Unless the western world wakes up and demands that Middle Eastern governments protect religious minorities from this kind of persecution, there won't be a Christian church left in the Arab world. Islamists seemed determined to eradicate Christianity from its birthplace - a sad commentary on ignorance, superstition, and hate from many Muslims in the Middle East.


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    1. Screw the Christians.

      They started it.

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    2. Some video I watched long ago showed many Christians living in and around the vast garbage dumps around Cairo and other cities.

      Seemed at least to get a little respite from persecution there, and an occasional meal.

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    3. "Dumpster Divers of Damascus"

      was hot on YouTube a few years back.

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    4. I think it was "Trash Can Christian Cuisine In Cairo".

      Moldy bread was a prized item, I recall. That, and any rotting fruit.

      The price was right, nothing.

      Dang Christians, sucking off society, the leeches, eating for free like that.

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    5. This morning the number of churches attacked, burned, looted, and vandalized exceeded 50. Again, no human loss is being reported.

      On a positive note, these Muslim warriors have learned nothing and can be counted on to turn and run when confronted by disciplined troops.

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    6. Those interviewed all wanted to go to Israel.

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    7. Where are the disciplined troops?

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    8. Those interviewed are all Apartheid Lovers.

      Holder views them as racist outlaws and hooligans.

      Cowards.

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    9. Holder whips out the race card like Leeloo whips out her Multipass in The Fifth Element.

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    10. Doug, guess you were AWOL when quot told us that those Arab Christians were just NAZIs. Why be concerned when our AIPAC shill dismisses the lives of Christians with the use of a single acronymn.

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    11. How would The Rat propose to make some of his phone calls if our satellites were regularly getting knocked out of the "sky" by untracked space debris?

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    12. Doug, satellites for phone and cable are 19,300 nautical miles above the equator, almost all of the debris is in LEO (Low Earth Orbit, where the ISS sits).

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    13. ...and we sure don't want The INTERNATIONALE getting punched out, do we?

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    14. .

      I realize I may come off as a worry-wort and chicken little, however, I need to get this off my chest.

      Does anyone else find it suspicious that T, an employee of the NSA, with obvious extensive knowledge of "satellites for phone and cable" as well as computers and computer systems should 'just happen' to return to this blog at a time when the NSA and the US Intelligence 'network' is trying to shut down all dissent involving the spying programs recently revealed by Mr. Snowden and being investigated by various congressional committees?

      Just saying.

      Signed

      Doug.

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    15. What a Web she has weaved.

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    16. desert ratSun Aug 18, 10:15:00 AM EDT
      Doug, guess you were AWOL when quot told us that those Arab Christians were just NAZIs. Why be concerned when our AIPAC shill dismisses the lives of Christians with the use of a single acronymn.

      Those "christians" you speak of support the mass murder of Jews.

      Let's be specific. Oh that's right, Rat the stoner can't make those type of distinctions. Too stoned I guess.

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  23. Why isn't Obama running guns to the Muslim Brotherhood so they can overthrow the regime like he's doing in Syria?

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    1. Isn't he on vacation?

      Don't give him any ideas, he might do it.

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    2. ALREADY did.. plus billions in additional aid.

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  24. .

    From the Daily Bobolink

    Quirk was also ordered by the Court never to sell, give, loan, rent, advertise, write about, nor mention in speech his infamous 'gravity belts' again.

    .

    Luckily, we have a justice system where liberal judges with delusions of grandeur can be reversed on appeal. The case ultimately made its way through the system and up to the Supreme Court. There, in a unanimous 9-1 ruling, the lower court ruling was reversed with Chief Justice Roberts writing the final opinion.

    The opinion pointed out that

    1. The purpose of the belt was 'solely to provide constraint for those who could not ordinarily be constrained by gravity.' (The case of Maui Doug was cited amongst the evidence presented.)

    2. That extensive testing did in fact prove that the belt did meet that objective.

    3. That adequate warnings were provided in English, French, Spanish, Japanese, Russian, Chinese, and pre-historic Swedish that included the specific warning "Do not wear while swimming."

    (The court did point out that the warnings were admittedly small yet still met the required legal standard for size, just barely.)

    Evidence that became known after the original lower court decision included

    1. The original drowning victim was a Swedish English major and thus could not be expected to understand normal instructions. (Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, in a separate minority opinion did suggest that the defendant, Souls-R-Us, Inc. develop some type of pictograph as a possible solution to what she termed the "Swedish Problem".)

    2. Evidence of possible bribery and corruption also surfaced when documentation was presented that showed the judge in the original case had accepted a windrow of alfalfa and a counterfeit first edition of Whitman's Leaves of Grass from Anonymous-Bob Boobie, a farmer with a checkered past. Boobie was a known criminal and charlatan who often got off scot free by pleading non compos mentis, a defense prosecutors often found impossible to argue against. Boobie was the accused perpetrator of numerous schemes to swindle the entire Souls-R-Us empire from a Mr. Quirk, entrepreneur and philanthropist, who had once tried to befriend Boobie when he was homeless and in dire need of a friend. (When asked about the case and Boobie, Mr. Quirk could only shake his head as he slowly walked back to his limosine.)

    The judge in the original case swore the gifts were a bar mitzvah gift for her daughter. When it was pointed out to the judge, Stella O'Hara, that a bar mitzvah was for a son not a daughter and that neither she, nor her husband, nor her daughter were Jewish, she responded, "I know that. Don't you think I know that." Then she was whisked away by her attorney.

    Boobie laughed off the incident and stated that he was a member of AIPAC and that the whole matter was a misunderstanding. (According to a Washington Post article, investigators who checked on Boobie's story found that while he had applied for membership with AIPAC, the application is still being withheld two years later. AIPAC officials refused to say why.)

    A grand jury has been convened to investigate whether criminal charges should be brought in this Boobie/O'Hara affair.

    Mr. Quirk, a very private man, was reportedly exhausted by the whole sordid affair and was forced to retire to his yacht in order to recover. Reports indicate he is currently cruising off the French coast.

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    1. What a slide for the Swede!

      From The Mnemonic Service in Sucker Bait, to this.

      Very sad.

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    2. :)

      This synopsis of a novel Quirk was beginning to write in hopes of gaining cash to pay debts was found under his cot in a park in Detroit, along with Skittles wrappers and cheap gin bottles, when he was finally busted for vagrancy and violating public health laws.

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    3. Maybe the Night Train did it?

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    4. .


      Once again, Anonymous-Bob attempts the non compos mentis defense. And once again he will likely get off scot free. I mean, what jury would deny it?


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      I thought the only thing rat toked was toads.


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    6. .


      Well, I guess that's better than taking 'magic mushrooms'.

      Man Rips Off Penis After Eating Mushrooms


      Dos 'rhooms' dey fuk you up bad, mon.

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    7. .


      One has to think there is a back story to this incident involving more than just mushrooms.


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    8. Mushrooms, Skittles and gin...the eunuch formula, 'on the street', often used by losers after the girl friend walks out.

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    9. Yeah, the story doesn't mention that his penis was telling him to kill people.

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  25. Night Train

    Just learned about it from Carolla.
    ...when he did Earthquake Rehab work in Section 8 housing.

    While the inmates lived there.

    Tore out their kitchen cabinets and left them on the floor while they shear-walled the place.
    ...and the tenants made their sandwiches.
    Bricked in one of their two windows.

    The smell of cooking w/lard and diapers.

    ...and an old guy that shit in a five gallon bucket.

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    1. Night Train

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PLgUlRVLZE

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    2. Is T the only lady left in America that ain't fat?

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    3. OMG!

      Gonna need some heavy duty shocks on that Stang!

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    4. I forget the name of those trees with the peeling bark.

      We had them on the farm.

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    5. Manzanita did the same thing, only smaller.

      Hard as shit.

      Only thing harder was The Ironwood.

      Never heard of that one 'til then.

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    6. A different kind of Ironwood:

      "The shaded sanctuary and richer soils created by ironwoods increase plant diversity and provide benefits to wildlife. Ironwoods are too hard to provide nesting cavities for birds, but the cacti that grow beneath them provide such opportunities. Insects abound within the ironwood complex, attracting birds and reptiles. As with other legumes, the ironwood's leaf litter supplies nitrogen to the soil and its seeds provide a protein-rich resource for doves, quail, coyotes, and many small rodents.

      The Ironwood tree is found only in the Sonoran Desert, in the dry locales below 2,500 feet, where freezing temperatures are uncommon. In fact the Ironwood's habitat is almost an exact match of the Sonoran Desert boundry. Ironwoods are most common in dry ephemeral washes. Ironwoods function as oases of fertile and sheltered habitat within a harsh and challenging desert landscape. As a tree becomes established, it tempers the physical environment beneath it, creating a micro-habitat with less direct sunlight, lower surface temperatures, more organic matter, higher water availability, and protection from herbivores. Because of these factors, the Ironwood tree has immense ecological value in the Sonoran Desert.

      Ironwood grows taller than most trees in Sonoran desert scrub, so it serves as a great perch and roost for hawks and owls. It's dense canopy is utilized by nearly 150 bird species. Add tall ironwoods to the scrubby vegetation on some desert bajadas, and you're likely to add 63 percent more birds than creosote, cactus and bursage alone could support. The ironwood's canopies are so dense that they reduce the probability of extreme heat exposure in the summer."

      http://www.pima.gov/cmo/sdcp/species/iw/illus.html

      A thing of beauty.

      Air temperatures may be 15 degrees cooler under ironwoods than in the open desert sun five feet away. Ironwood also shelters frost sensitive young saguaros, organ pipe cactus, night-blooming cereus and many other native plants growing beneath them. More than 230 plant species have been recorded starting their growth within the protective microclimate under ironwood "nurse plants." This also creates an optimum wildflower nursery which is foraged by rabbits, bighorn, and other native species.

      In addition to the birds, there are 62 reptiles and amphibians, and 64 mammals that use ironwoods for forage, cover and birthing grounds. At just one site in the Silverbell Mountains, an ironwood-bursage habitat also shelters some 188 kinds of bees, 25 ant colonies, and 25 other types of insects. That adds up to an extraordinary level of biodiversity.

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    7. Madrona trees, Doug. Like to be near saltwater. That lake is in Anacortes city limits, Fidalgo Island, San Juan archepelago.

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    8. We called em "Madrones" - mighta been right too, since one guy was a Botany Major.

      Down in CA, we were 9 miles from the beach.

      San Jaun:

      Is that in still in the rain shadow like Victoria?

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    9. Olympic National Park nearly matches California's Redwoods for beauty.

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    10. Puget Sound Shorelines: Species - Madrone

      www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/sea/pugetsound/species/madrone.html‎

      Madrone Facts. Broad-leaved evergreen tree. Can reach 75 feet high. Can live over 200 years. Coppery-brown peeling bark stays cool to the touch year round.

      ***

      It is also known as the madroño, madroña, bearberry, or refrigerator tree. The name "strawberry tree" (A. unedo) may also be found in relation to A. menziesii. In the United States, the name "madrone" is used south of the Siskiyou Mountains of southern Oregon and Northern California and the name "madrona" is used north of the Siskiyou Mountains, according to the "Sunset Western Garden Book". The Concow tribe calls the tree dis-tā’-tsi (Konkow language) or kou-wät′-chu.[2] In British Columbia it is simply referred to as arbutus. Its species name was given it in honour of the Scottish naturalist Archibald Menzies, who noted it during George Vancouver's voyage of exploration.[3][4]

      ---

      Madronas are native to the western coast of North America, from British Columbia (chiefly Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands) to California. They are mainly found in Puget Sound, the Oregon Coast Range, and California Coast Ranges; but are also scattered on the west slope of the Sierra Nevada mountains. They are rare south of Santa Barbara County, with isolated stands south to Palomar Mountain in California.[5] One author lists their southern range as extending as far as Baja California in Mexico,[9] but others point out that there are no recorded specimens collected that far south,[5] and the trees are absent from modern surveys of native trees there.[10]

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    11. Forgot about them being cool to the touch, even in summer heat.

      Bay Trees were too, I think.

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    12. Still have the

      "Sunset Western Garden Book"

      Damn I miss sharing my life w/that woman.

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  26. Rep. André Carson: Tea party members of Congress want blacks ‘hanging on a tree’

    André Carson, a Democratic representative from Indiana and a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, suggested last week that certain members of the tea party in Congress are indistinguishable from violent racists.

    “This is the effort that we’re seeing of Jim Crow. Some of these folks in Congress right now would love to see us as second-class citizens,” Carson said at a caucus event in Miami on Aug. 22. “Some of them in Congress right now of this tea party movement would love to see you and me … hanging on a tree.”

    A video of the comments was circulated Tuesday by a video producer at “The Blaze,” news and opinion site run by Glenn Beck, the former Fox News host.

    The video features only an edited clip of Carson’s remarks, but the lawmaker’s office has confirmed the statement to news outlets including the Washington Post.

    The comments were “prompted in response to frustration voiced by many in Miami and in his home district in Indianapolis regarding Congress’ inability to bolster the economy,” Jason Tomcsi, a Carson spokesman, said in a statement issued to news outlets. “The Tea Party is protecting its millionaire and oil company friends while gutting critical services that they know protect the livelihood of African-Americans, as well as Latinos and other disadvantaged minorities. We are talking about child nutrition, job creation, job training, housing assistance, and Head Start, and that is just the beginning. A child without basic nutrition, secure housing, and quality education has no real chance at a meaningful and productive life.”

    Tomcsi continued, stating that “yes, the congressman used strong language because the Tea Party agenda jeopardizes our most vulnerable and leaves them without the ability to improve their economic standing.”

    Carson’s statement marks the second time in recent weeks the Congressional Black Caucus has used unusually blunt language to criticize the tea party.

    Caucus member Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) earlier this month told an audience gathered for a community meeting in California “the tea party can go straight to hell.”

    A fight between the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and the tea party over racism was brewing earlier this year. Leaders of each group accused the other of being racist. Tea Party Express leader Mark Williams called for an end to that war of words in July and removed from his personal website an imaginary letter to President Abraham Lincoln that accused the NAACP of being racist for using the word “colored” in its name...

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    1. Abraham Lincoln calling other people racist. That's funny.

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  27. >>>Major Cairo march called off over safety fear.
    Protesters allege snipers had been placed along routes of anti-military marches planned for capital.....drudge<<<


    Brotherhood folds, 'when confronted by disciplined force'.

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    1. What kind of dudes fear safety?

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    2. McCain: US has 'no credibility' in Arab world...

      Now he tells us.

      Must be getting briefed by The Rat.

      Stoned Cold

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    3. That's shocking. Didn't Obama go to Cairo once and say, "Mr. Netanyahu, tear down this fence!" ?

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  28. Five Minute GOOGLE Outage Reportedly Caused 40% Drop in Global Traffic...

    'Unprecedented' blackout...

    ***

    They're gonna need breeder reactors to power Google.

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    1. What you don't know is it was a denial of service attack from Russia. Putin getting the range, so to speak.

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    2. More evidence that Quirk's hunch is correct.

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  29. The most hilarious day I've had in Court with Quirk was the day he was trying to file a Motion to Dismiss the Charges against him, and he set his plea to music, with Tambourines & Harmonica & Tap Dancing, in an effort to impress the Judge. She didn't seem impressed. The Motion to Dismiss was dismissed with prejudice, and Quirk was given seven days in the slammer for disrupting the Court.

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    1. He's appealing to Judge Judy.

      Fearless

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    2. Fearless, it's true.

      But exceeding foolish.

      She didn't put up with his bull shit AT ALL!

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    3. .

      Seven days in jail, just what was needed to complete the album.

      Quirk's Tap Dancing to Harmonica studio album was just about to overtake Michael Jackson's Thriller when Jackson up and died and the publicity gave a spurt to Thriller sales.

      Souls-R-Us lawyers suggested Quirk also up and die since he was so close in sales but Quirk indicated he sang and danced and harmonicaed only for the art and that the sales weren't that important to him.

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    4. BOOKMARK THIS, DEAR READERS!!!!!!

      It is the first time Quirk has out and out admitted to the basic truth of all that I have said.

      ATTENTION: "Seven days in jail, just what was needed to complete the album."

      The truth will out.

      As for the third paragraph above, it is the Judgement Awaiting on 'the other side' that Q is concerned about, not sales or art.

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    5. (I remember when Quirk first admitted to me, over liquor and Skittles: "I know I'm gonna really get it bad, Bobo")

      Poignant, painfully sad, and just as was his statement, I nearly cried. Then I recalled:

      ---------------'The Judgements of the Lord are True and Righteous Altogether'-----------------

      and felt better.

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    6. .

      Again with the dramatics.

      In this instance, the 'charges' were for mooning my congressman at one of his rallies. I got seven days plus a chance to finish the album. No big deal.

      It's not like I totaled my Mustang in order to collect the insurance or collected money for not planting crops.

      I do have some integrity.

      .

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  30. Egypt Stocks Tumble...

    Damn!

    I was long on Egypt Options.

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  31. What's mine is mine:

    "Days after reports that a nonprofit founded by Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg was seeking unpaid interns sparked criticism, the organization has announced that it will launch a paid internship program.

    On Wednesday, Jessica Bennett, a staff member for Sandberg’s foundation LeanIn.Org, posted on Facebook that she was seeking an unpaid editorial intern to assist in her work for the group. Immediately the post drew criticism in cyberspace, with commentators and Silicon Valley blog Valleywag noting Sandberg’s recent stock sale, which netted her a cool $91 million days before her foundation began recruiting free labor.

    Bennett quickly responded with an updated posting stating that the unpaid intern she was seeking was not an official LeanIn.Org position, and a spokeswoman, in an interview with She The People, defended the use of volunteers by LeanIn.Org and other nonprofit groups.

    But by Thursday, as the criticism intensified, LeanIn.Org’s president, Rachel Thomas, released a statement on Facebook that read in part:

    “The posting that prompted this discussion was for a position that doesn’t fall within LeanIn.Org’s definition of a ‘volunteer.’ As a startup, we haven’t had a formal internship program. Moving forward we plan to, and it will be paid. We support equality — and that includes fair pay — and we’ll continue to push for change in our own organization and our broader community.”"

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  32. Uncle Sam's Yard Sale: Gov't looks to unload Afghanistan war hardware

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/18/it-could-be-uncle-sam-biggest-yard-sale/#ixzz2cLK5eWZB

    "...officials are now pondering what to do with $50 billion in equipment half a world away — including combat vehicles, dining rooms, gyms, clothing and more."

    "That’s exactly what the Pentagon is doing with some 2,000 of the massive eight-ton troop carriers known as MRAPS. Each MRAP cost taxpayers more than $1 million..." [that's just a measly $2 billion]

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    1. The 2,000 MRAPSs will be shredded for scrap. Not to worry, 24,000 of these are in inventory.

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    2. Invented, what, 7 years ago?

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    3. Must be a helluva shredder.

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    4. Had a girlfriend in college, dad was an Admiral.
      (she went to Punahoe like the po little Black Boy, Barry)

      Said he was busy finding ways to spend money on the 'Nam.

      ...the more things change.

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    5. I've always wanted an MRAPS, 'for the farm', for the when our cities finally totally break down, and my neighbors and I need to rapidly deploy here and there, with our pitchforks and shotguns, in quick reaction defense against the invading hordes.

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  33. TEL AVIV – The Egyptian army launched their crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood after evidence indicated the Islamist group was creating its own military and terrorist apparatus, a high-ranking Egyptian intelligence official told WND.

    The official further stated al-Qaida-linked jihadists have been making their way to the Sinai Peninsula as part of a Muslim Brotherhood effort to accumulate its own independent force.

    That force was being coordinated with the Brotherhood’s main political and militant ally, the Jihadi Salafist group, the official said. Yesterday, Egyptian police arrested Mohammed al-Zawahiri, leader of the Salafist group and brother to al-Qaida chief Ayman al-Zawahiri.

    The Egyptian intelligence official further stated Turkey has been aiding the Muslim Brotherhood military and terrorist efforts, including with financial support funneled through international firms.

    Turkey has also been working with Hamas to aid the so-called rebels in their fight against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, according to informed Middle Eastern security officials previously speaking to WND.

    The Gazan group was specifically asked to help the rebels construct underground tunnels and to advise the jihadist-saturated rebels on adopting some of the tools Hamas previously put to use to confront Israel.

    The Egyptian intelligence official confirmed to WND the Hamas-Turkish cooperation and claimed it extended to the Muslim Brotherhood, which asked Hamas to aid in their efforts to build a military wing.

    The information may give a larger context for the Egyptian military’s actions and to the ramifications of President Obama’s response to the spiraling violence.

    “We appreciate the complexity of the situation,” Obama said in his comments on the situation last week. “The United States strongly condemns the steps that have been taken by Egypt’s interim government and security forces. We deplore violence against civilians. We support universal rights essential to human dignity, including the right to peaceful protest.”

    Obama further canceled a U.S.-Egypt biannual joint military exercise, which was scheduled for next month, and warned the U.S. government could reassess financial aid to the Egyptian military.

    Meanwhile, Egyptian authorities announced they are considering disbanding the Muslim Brotherhood group as the army continues to break up Brotherhood protest actions across the country.

    Those actions have reportedly included attacking churches, Christian homes and businesses.


    from WND, which isn't always wrong


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  34. From where it's always Sunny -

    http://houseofsunny.tv/2013/08/18/oops-i-forgot-to-post-sunnytv-episode-2-for-yall/

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  35. ABC News blocked the last (Mubarak) video.

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  36. I can't get the audio so don't know what he says, but can guess.

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  37. As Egyptian Churches Are Put To the Torch, Obama’s Reputation Goes Up in Flames
    http://www.nysun.com/foreign/as-egyptian-churches-are-put-to-the-torch-obamas/88378/

    "As Mr. Obama retreated back to the beach, his aides warned of a cutoff of the $1.5 billion a year that American has been providing, though such aid is now being overwhelmed with a package of $12 billion that began flowing from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates only last month."

    "The eviction of the Christians from the Arab world, as the eviction of the Jews before them, is a loss not only for the West but mostly for Arab Muslims. More importantly, it is a crime against humanity. Where is President Obama? Will his silence make him a partner in this crime?"

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    1. but Deuce doesnt believe that Jews were evicted from the middle east and pushed into Israel.

      He thinks Israel is an European colony...

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    2. Some Jews were evicted from the Middle East but most were encouraged to come to Israel. The evictions occurred after most of the Arabs were evicted from Palestine. By the early nineteenth century there were only 10,000 Jews in all of Palestine. The British colonials encouraged the Emigration of Jews from Europe to Israel. The Nazis supplied the incentive. The population of Jews in Israel was about 10% in The early twenties, less than the current percentage of black population in the US.

      The British withdrew their support for a Jewish Homeland at the beginning of WWII in favor of the Arabs and the zionists retaliated started their terror campaign against the British colonials.

      The Zionists ran the Arabs out and European Jews took their place. The Arabs returned the favor and “encouraged" the Jews to leave Arab lands and the Zionists encouraged the Jews to come to Israel.

      Face it, Israel is a European creation. It is built on ethnic cleansing for some, refuge for others. Israel is a product of colonialism and abetted by Europeans murdering Jews. Today there are close to one million Russians in Israel, many of them discovering they were Jews to get out of Russia.

      You create fables and can rewrite history all you like, but why bother?

      The question is: Why do you think it is necessary to do so?

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    3. Talk about revisionist history...

      Almost 1 million Jews were ethnically cleansed from their homes in the arab world. More Jews than Arabs displaced.

      Fact is today? And yes that is the ISSUE. More Arabs LIVE in Israel as citizens than lived in the entire area in 1948. Now as for the Jews of the arab world almost none.

      You can flip stats, create new stories but the truth is easy to see.

      Israel now sits on 1/900th of the arab middle east, the arabs control 899/900th.

      That is a FACT.

      Arabs make up 20% of the citizens of Israel. Jews are ethnically cleansed from Arab controlled lands.

      There is no "right of return" allowed for Jewish refugees.

      The Agreement for the Jewish homeland's original agreement was sold out for oil and appeasing the arabs.

      Now if you wish for peace? Jordan is an excellent homeland for the palestinians. Gaza is egyptian.

      As for the arabs that live in the west bank? Look at those population tables you love to quote so much. 90% of the arabs that live in the west bank didnt live there 200 years ago (and no I am not talking about who was alive)

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    4. The evictions occurred after most of the Arabs were evicted from Palestine.


      LOl now thats revisionist history...

      World Jewry
      Home > World Jewry > Myth and Fact: Did Arab Leaders Encourage Palestinians to Flee in 1948?
      Myth and Fact: Did Arab Leaders Encourage Palestinians to Flee in 1948?
      Mitchell G. Bard
      Jewish Virtual Library
      Myth

      "Arab leaders never encouraged the Palestinians to flee."

      Fact

      A plethora of evidence exists demonstrating that Palestinians were encouraged to leave their homes to make way for the invading Arab armies.

      The Economist, a frequent critic of the Zionists, reported on October 2, 1948: “Of the 62,000 Arabs who formerly lived in Haifa not more than 5,000 or 6,000 remained. Various factors influenced their decision to seek safety in flight. There is but little doubt that the most potent of the factors were the announcements made over the air by the Higher Arab Executive, urging the Arabs to quit... It was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades.”

      Time’s report of the battle for Haifa (May 3, 1948) was similar: “The mass evacuation, prompted partly by fear, partly by orders of Arab leaders, left the Arab quarter of Haifa a ghost city... By withdrawing Arab workers their leaders hoped to paralyze Haifa.”

      Benny Morris, the historian who documented instances where Palestinians were expelled, also found that Arab leaders encouraged their brethren to leave. Starting in December 1947, he said, “Arab officers ordered the complete evacuation of specific villages in certain areas, lest their inhabitants ‘treacherously’ acquiesce in Israeli rule or hamper Arab military deployments.” He concluded, “There can be no exaggerating the importance of these early Arab-initiated evacuations in the demoralization, and eventual exodus, of the remaining rural and urban populations” (Benny Morris, The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited, MA: Cambridge University Press, 2004, p. 590.)

      The Arab National Committee in Jerusalem, following the March 8, 1948, instructions of the Arab Higher Committee, ordered women, children and the elderly in various parts of Jerusalem to leave their homes: “Any opposition to this order... is an obstacle to the holy war... and will hamper the operations of the fighters in these districts.” The Arab Higher Committee also ordered the evacuation of “several dozen villages, as well as the removal of dependents from dozens more” in April-July 1948. “The invading Arab armies also occasionally ordered whole villages to depart, so as not to be in their way” (Middle Eastern Studies, January 1986; See also Morris, pp. 263 & 590-592).

      Morris also said that in early May units of the Arab Legion ordered the evacuation of all women and children from the town of Beisan. The Arab Liberation Army was also reported to have ordered the evacuation of another village south of Haifa. The departure of the women and children, Morris says, “tended to sap the morale of the menfolk who were left behind to guard the homes and fields, contributing ultimately to the final evacuation of villages. Such two-tier evacuation — women and children first, the men following weeks later — occurred in Qumiya in the Jezreel Valley, among the Awarna bedouin in Haifa Bay and in various other places.”

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  38. "The eviction of the Christians from the Arab world, as the eviction of the Jews before them..."

    Brothers and Sisters, can I get an "ethnic cleansing" or and "apartheid"? Will anyone give me a "religion of peace"?

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  39. >>>AL NAZLA, EGYPT

    In Egyptian village, Christian shops marked ahead of church attack

    The Saint Virgin Mary Church in Al Nazla is one of 47 churches and monasteries that have been burned, robbed, or attacked in a new wave of violence against Christians in Egypt.

    Before the violence that shook this small village last week, there were warning signs.


    In Pictures Egypt Grapples with an Uncertain Future

    On June 30, when millions of Egyptians took to the streets to protest against now ousted President Mohamed Morsi, residents of Al Nazla marked Christian homes and shops with red graffiti, vowing to protect Morsi's electoral legitimacy with “blood.”

    Relations between Christians and Muslims in the village, which had worsened since Morsi's election in 2012, grew even more tense as Islamists spread rumors that it was Christians who were behind the protests against Morsi and his ouster by the military on July 3.

    Finally, on the morning of Aug. 14, the tension erupted. In Cairo, the police attacked two protest camps full of Morsi supporters, using live ammunition and killing hundreds. When the news reached Al Nazla, a local mosque broadcast through its loudspeakers that Christians were attacking the protesters, say residents. Hundreds of villagers marched on the Saint Virgin Mary Church. They broke down the gate and flooded the compound, shouting “Allahu akbar” and “Islam is the solution,” according to Christian neighbors.

    “First they stole the valuable things, and then they torched the place,” says Sami Awad, a church member who lives across the narrow dirt alley from the church. “Whatever they couldn't carry, they burned.”<<<

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2013/0818/In-Egyptian-village-Christian-shops-marked-ahead-of-church-attack

    Christian Science Monitor

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  40. Bending for Islam
    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/bending-for-islam/

    "My criticism of my religion is long overdue. Out of respect for my family, peers and friends, I delayed the inevitable because of my overflowing optimism. I cannot and will not glue this broken glass."

    "The West must hold those responsible, directly and indirectly, accountable. It is not just about the two Islamists who attacked Katie and Kirstie, it is, also, about the deafening silence of those Arab and Muslim leaders the West mistakenly holds in high regard."

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  41. Quirk, our Haley, Idaho mega-condo is gone. Ashes. Nothing left. All my fishing stuff too, and your collectibles from your business careers. All lost. Damn firefighters concentrated their resources defending the old Hemingway Compound and Lady Gaga's Foxy Forest Retreat, along with Al Gore's Climate Research and Global Warming Institute, Madonna's Madams, and Oprah Winfrey's Wilderness Talk Studio.

    Sorry to have to report this. We are victims of the Class Structure in our country, again.

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      I assume once again you stretch the truth beyond recognition just as you do with your Souls-R-Us fairy tales.


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    2. True Quirk, our Haley condo is gone, ashes.

      You remember, you bought it for us with the money you got for the golden crosses you lifted from the Vatican.

      I used it a lot. Hanging in Detroit, you must have forgotten about it.

      Best thing you ever did for me.

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      Normally, I would offer sympathy but this is what happens when you continue to cry wolf (literally). No one believes your condo burned down or that you ever had one.

      The fruits of iniquity.

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    4. Quirk thinks there's no fire in Idaho?

      Do they still have cable access in Detroit?

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  42. No solution, no exit -

    >>>There are, unfortunately, two things we can’t do in the Middle East. We can’t solve our problems and win the love and esteem of the folks who live there by promoting a transition to democracy that isn’t going to happen, and we can’t insulate ourselves from the region’s problems by walking away. Since those are the two alternatives most Americans instinctually prefer, our political and policy systems are going to be stressed. Moralists are going to hector presidents of both parties non-stop for their failures to impose Marquess of Queensbury rules on the various regimes and movements with which we will work, and isolationists are going to resist the commitments that a policy of messy engagement requires.<<<

    August 18, 2013
    Bambi Meets Godzilla In The Middle East
    WALTER RUSSELL MEAD

    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/08/18/bambi-meets-godzilla-in-the-middle-east/

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  43. I wonder when the next Bilderberg meeting is scheduled for?
    Isn't that where the powers that be work out the overall outcomes of world events?

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    1. Looks to be in the beginning of June.

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      You missed it by a few months.

      Quite a party.

      Good times. Rat was there just checking to make sure 'the plan' was coming along.

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    3. My invite must have gotten lost in the mail.

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    4. When a US public official attends, is it not the right of the people he represents to expect some transparency?
      Oh, what am I saying.
      When a politician says transparency, it means the opposite.
      I'm starting to get an understanding of the process now, if only a bit.

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  44. That is odd. Their website won't come up on my puter at work.
    Bilderberg Meetings | The official websitewww.bilderbergmeetings.org/‎Cached
    SimilarOfficial website about the annual forum for informal, off-the-record discussions about megatrends and the major issues facing the world. Includes information on ...

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  45. Lester has the website secured and all locked down, by invitation only.

    Give it up, we plebs haven't a chance.

    Lester's place at Sun Valley was saved too. Marked as a Priority One on the firefighting list.

    Nothing is fair any longer.

    All my fishing stuff gone.....my Royal Coachman collection....

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    1. And Quirk doesn't seem to even remember buying it, his mind befogged so, what with the drinking.

      It was all downhill after Ely.

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      Actually, no.

      I went in and I got to the bottom of it.

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  46. While the establishment and state-run press may be content to demonize Bilderberg critics and claim nothing can or should be done about it, opponents of the secrecy and the current state of the world say humanity deserves real answers.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/15664-bilderberg-meeting-draws-protests-media-coverage

    That is a strange claim, to me at least. "humanity deserves real answers"

    Anyone care to enlighten me on what that is?

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    1. Funny how they declassify Area 51 on the eve of the Bilderberg meeting, as though trying to put up a smoke screen. "Oh, look, over there, a shiny thing!"

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      :)

      It must have been the reverse. This year they met in June outside of London.

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  47. "Real" is what Lester says, following consultation with the Illuminati (as everyone knows), the "real" power behind the Bilderbergers' master plan, taken almost verbatim, it is said, from the Protocols.

    Since the last person to lay eyes on the Protocols was a gnarled, mute, 16th C. Benedictine monk, sworn to a vow of silence by the high priestess of the Cult of Cybele, intuition is central to absolute knowledge. Only two Elder souls have been made privy to a transliteration of the original Hittite, written on a 6mm x 6mm wolfram tablet, found by a Masonic brother under the floor boards of Mata Hari's attic. An electron microscope is necessary for its reading. Compounding matters, the Protocols are said to originally have been written on a large scroll of Mongolian marmot leather, stowed in a gamma radiating mastodon skull in either the Gobi or Sahara. Insiders say that Geraldo Rivera is on the case, Al Capone's safe in tow.

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    1. This can't be right. The Cult of Cybele had long gone underground by the 16th C. You couldn't find a High Priestess of Cybele if you life depended on it, which it didn't, by then. Entry into what was left of the Cult was tighter than the damn Bilderbergers, and they had secret handshakes too, which the Bilderbergers took up, and we know how hard it is to get into Bilderbergers.

      Cybele was a fat ass, a descendant of the fat ass earth mother statues found in the Paleolithic caves. She didn't go on the great hunts with the men, but stayed at home, sucking up animal fats, giving birth, farting, and doing the cooking.

      Take a look - (if you can stand it, she makes Miss T look lithe indeed) -

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ankara_Muzeum_B19-36.jpg

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    2. As for me, I'll take our venereal goddesses of our silver screens and UTube videos any day over that fat ass Cybele.

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  48. Breaking News: Pope Silent on Muslim Brotherhood Violence Against Christians

    Thats the long and short of it.

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    1. For the time being, the Pope must tread softly. The MB is looking for any excuse to further demonize the Copts and act accordingly, bringing into the conflict such allies as may be found. If the Egyptian military acts with ruthless dispatch to crush the MB, the Pope, I am certain, will have much to say.

      The MB has the Copts as hostages.

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    2. He should come out and at least protest the criminal actions.

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  49. ...for a refresher in politics for the Executive...

    Reflections on the Revolution in France
    ___Edmund Burke

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  50. Obama returns to Washington
    after summer vacation

    WASHINGTON — Vacation over, President Barack Obama returned to the White House late Sunday after a weeklong getaway to the Massachusetts island of Martha´s Vineyard.

    Before returning, the president squeezed in one final round of golf, his sixth of the vacation, before boarding Air Force One on Cape Cod, Mass., for the trip home with his wife, Michelle, and daughters Malia and Sasha.

    His golf foursome at Vineyard Golf Club in Edgartown included World Bank President Jim Kim, New York lawyer and Obama fundraiser Eunu Chun, and aide Mike Brush, the White House said. Obama was on the picturesque island

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    1. " before boarding Air Force One on Cape Cod, Mass., for the trip home with his wife, Michelle, and daughters Malia and Sasha"


      What is it with this refusing to take the mutt on Air Force One? Does this speak to his sunni faith, and the hatred of dogs in Islam?

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      Quirk thinks there's no fire in Idaho?

      Do they still have cable access in Detroit?



      Well, let's see, Doug.

      1. There about 8 or 9 fires going out west. I can't be expected to keep track of them all, especially one in a backwater like Idaho.

      2. I'm not aware Anonymous-Bob owns a condo.

      3. While our cable access may be lacking our atlas' work just fine. And it is passing strange that all the news stories about the fires in Idaho speak about Hailey, Idaho not Haley, Id, stranger still that the boob doesn't know how to spell the name of the town his condo is in, this even considering the fact that he is an English major.

      The man is an inveterate liar as witnessed by the woppers he tells about my Souls-R-Us empire.

      Don't make the mistake I made in trusting this guy. I made the mistake of trying to help him out when he was down and out. He is still down and out and has been tormenting me ever since.

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    3. Jeez, Quirk, you really don't remember our condo, do you?

      Amazing.

      And yes, I misspelled Hailey. What the hail, you have done much worse.

      And I know the truth torments you so. I will try to be not so forthcoming with the truth concerning your business and criminal and extra-marital affairs in the future.

      But I have been fair. I have spoken at length about your good points, few as they may be.

      Hamdoon confided to me once, that you are the bravest man he has ever know, under certain circumstances, and also the strangest. For some reason he compared you to that Preternatural Loon spoken of by Thoreau in 'Walden; or, Life in the Woods'.

      I thought this odd at the time, but with more thought I seen his meaning more clearly every day.

      Sadly, I note too that Quirk has no cable access, saying 'our atlas' work just fine'.

      This sounds a little like Eubonics to me, but it may be just a white proletarian Detroit dialect of some kind. Whatever it is, it is not the King's English.

      Even without cable access, Quirk seems totally at ease on the blogs on the Internet.

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      I have to maintain 'street cred' in the Big D. You have to have a note pinned to your shirt so that people can help you find your way home.

      Haley? Whachu mean Haley? Ain't no Haley in Ideeho, boy.


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  51. .

    British hold Glen Greenwald's partner for 9 hours under Terrorism Act.

    Mr. Miranda, Mr. Greenwald said, was told that he was being detained under Section 7 of the British Terrorism Act, which allows the authorities to detain someone for up to nine hours for questioning and to conduct a search of personal items, often without a lawyer, to determine possible ties to terrorism. More than 97 percent of people stopped under the provision are questioned for under an hour, according to the British government.

    “What’s amazing is this law, called the Terrorism Act, gives them a right to detain and question you about your activities with a terrorist organization or your possible involvement in or knowledge of a terrorism plot,” Mr. Greenwald said. “The only thing they were interested in was N.S.A. documents and what I was doing with Laura Poitras. It’s a total abuse of the law.” He added: “This is obviously a serious, radical escalation of what they are doing. He is my partner. He is not even a journalist...”


    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/19/world/europe/britain-detains-partner-of-reporter-tied-to-leaks.html?hp&_r=0

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    Greenwald doesn't appear too intimidated.

    David was unable to call me because his phone and laptop are now with UK authorities. So I don't yet know what they told him. But the Guardian's lawyer was able to speak with him immediately upon his release, and told me that, while a bit distressed from the ordeal, he was in very good spirits and quite defiant, and he asked the lawyer to convey that defiance to me. I already share it, as I'm certain US and UK authorities will soon see.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/18/david-miranda-detained-uk-nsa

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  53. Yes, we know whose side Obama is on -


    >>>>At his confirmation hearing, Secretary of State John Kerry said that the United States had to keep providing weapons to Egypt because “The fact that sometimes other countries elect someone you don’t completely agree with doesn’t give us permission to walk away.”

    This June, Kerry insisted that we had to keep providing aid to Egypt, despite Morsi’s abuses and lack of democracy, in order to maintain “a channel to Egyptian military leadership, who are key opinion makers in the country.”

    But once Morsi was gone, the F-16s that had been the subject of such controversy, and that Obama had insisted on providing to Morsi, were denied to the Egyptian military. Obama was willing to provide advanced weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood, but not to the Egyptian military.

    Obama demanded that the Egyptian military go easy on the Brotherhood protesters, but had made no such requests of Morsi. He repeatedly emphasized that foreign aid was on the line in his threats to the new Egyptian government, but had made no move to warn Morsi that foreign aid was linked to his treatment of the political opposition.

    During the Morsi era, the administration insisted that human rights could not be linked to Egyptian military or civilian aid. After Morsi, suddenly the same officials were very interested in human rights.

    In the days and weeks after Morsi’s overthrow, administration officials and spokesmen made it painfully clear that they wanted the Muslim Brotherhood to participate in any new government.<<<<

    Whose Side Is Obama On?
    August 19, 2013 By Daniel Greenfield

    http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/whose-side-is-obama-on/

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  54. August 19, 2013
    Parasitic Power Producers
    Viv Forbes

    The green energy twins, wind and solar, are parasitic power producers. They cannot produce continuous predictable electricity without sucking backup from their hosts -- real power plants using coal, gas, nuclear, hydro, or geothermal energy.

    They start their freeloading life by attaching themselves to an electricity network built and paid for by their hosts. They seldom contribute to the capital or maintenance cost of the transmission network, and they force consumers to subsidize the feed-in price received for their unreliable output.

    From day one, the green energy parasites force their hosts to support them with electricity during the frequent periods when they produce no power. At times, in cold, still weather, wind farms drain power from the network to keep the turbines from freezing.

    All green energy plants in a region tend to produce either peak power or zero power at the same times. This surging creates serious network instability and forces fluctuating output in backup facilities.

    Because of this continuous need for backup, not one unit of real power can be closed. This causes periodic overcapacity in the network. All plants generate lower revenue and profits and both producers and consumers bear the cost of supporting the parasites.

    Problems already loom in Europe where coal, gas, and nuclear plants face closure because their revenue stream is weakened by overcapacity and interrupted by solar/wind surges.

    Green energy has a low capacity factor, intermittent operation, more access and transmission costs. and creates operational inefficiencies in backup plants. It is a destructive and stunningly expensive way to achieve a miniscule overall reduction in carbon dioxide emissions, even if that were a sensible aim. It is a system designed by delirious politicians not prudent power engineers, and its main achievement is to harvest subsidies not energy.

    If all green energy welfare was removed, the parasite power producers would die. And unless it is removed, the hosts and the customers will be continuously weakened.


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  55. Speaking of the Elders of Zion -

    Egypt: Both sides accuse the other of being agents of the Jews

    Here is a reminder that the foes of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt are not made up entirely of democratic pluralists. Among them are some (at least) who cling to age-old hatreds, and indulge in the same kneejerk reaction as their opponents do: that any foe, any enemy, must be an agent or stooge of the ubiquitous cosmic enemy, the Jews, whom the Qur'an designates as "the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers" (5:82).


    "Egyptian Association for Change Spokesman: Muslim Brotherhood Implements the Methods of the Jews," from MEMRI, August 14:

    Following are excerpts from a statement by Ahmad Taha Al-Naqr, spokesman of the Egyptian Association for Change, which aired on ON TV on August 14, 2013.
    Ahmad Taha Al-Naqr: I'd like to focus on the connection between the Jews and the Muslim Brotherhood. The MB have adopted the policy of the Jews, and they are implementing it to the letter, with respect to the invasion of the media, presenting an image of eternal victims…

    They use violence and view others as Gentiles. The Jews always say that non-Jews are Gentiles and that it is permitted to kill them – Gentiles can be killed or banished, like they do to the Palestinians.

    The [August 14] Rabaa massacre was orchestrated in the same style as the historical Masada massacre of the Jews, so that the MB would be able to continue to harp on about it, thus justifying foreign intervention in the affairs of Egypt. They actually demanded such foreign intervention. Anyone demanding intervention in his country's affairs is committing high treason. They simply clone and implement the image of the Jews.

    And the flip side:


    "Al-Jazeera Commentator, Former MB Official, Gamal Nassar: Al-Sisi Is Jewish, Implementing Protocols of Elders of Zion in Egypt," from MEMRI, August 17:

    Following are excerpts from a statement made by Gamal Nassar, former media secretary to the General Guide of the Muslim Brotherhood, which aired on the Al-Jazeera network on August 17, 2013.
    Gamal Nassar: I was trying to figure out Al-Sisi's origins. I wanted to know more about him. I was surprised to learn, from the Algerian Al-Watan newspaper, that Al-Sisi is of Jewish origin. His mother is called Mulaika Titani, and her brother was a member of the Jewish Haganah organization. Thus, we see that this man, by any standard, is implementing a Zionist plan to divide Egypt.

    […]

    This man, who heads the armed forces today, is committing a crime, in the full sense of the word. Many massacres have taken place. In my opinion, if decisive measures are not taken, the massacres will continue. Al-Sisi has come to destroy everything.

    […]

    Within the framework of his plot, he wants to ignite civil war, in order to portray himself as trying to protect state institutions, while he, in fact, is the one who is burning them down. He portrays himself as trying to defend national security, while he, in fact, is undermining it. In short, he wants to set the state of Egypt ablaze.

    This is a Zionist plot, and I am willing to be held responsible for what I say. Whoever reads The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the writings of [the Jews], including those who were writing in the U.S., realizes that this plot was premeditated.

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      On which side would rat come down?

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  56. Every man finds the means of his own relaxation. The president enjoys golf, the playing with his balls as often as possible.

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