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Friday, June 21, 2013

Why do we have to do anything about illegal immigration other than closing the border and reprimanding employers? Let the illegals worry about their own problems.

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM AND WHAT IS THE URGENCY? 

If I run up too much debt, back taxes, or traffic violations and there are 10 million more like me, why does Congress have to change the laws for me and my millions of others?

Why do 300,000,000 others have to change their laws and pay for my infractions and my breaking the law?

Is there something more virtuous about breaking immigration laws?

Why is the US Senate intent on rewarding foreign law breakers?

If we are worried about a large group with a problem, why not a general tax amnesty or an amnesty for those who never bothered to pay child support? 

Why do we get carried away by someone else’s bullshit?

Doesn’t the US Congress have anything else to worry about?


77 comments:

  1. When did your problem become my problem?

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  2. Was there something inherently wrong about controlling immigration in the first place?

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    1. The problem was that immigration was not controlled, Deuce.
      Or there would not be ten to twenty million undocumented immigrants in the US.

      Those millions are a problem, for the US.
      On the mos level, that most of them drive cars and trucks, unlicensed and uninsured, a problem for all the legal drivers in the land. Drives insurance rates to ever higher levels.

      Their presence is our problem.
      Mostly on a basis of increased costs for the rest of US.

      Costs that are not reimbursable.

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  3. Is it correct that my savings and economic security should be diminished because some US politician thinks a Mexican itinerant with four children broke US laws and deserves something that I worked for?

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  4. One of the more interesting numbers that I've seen, recently, is the "Net Immigration with Mexico" number. Over the last few years it has been -100,000.

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  5. John Oliver nailed it, when he said:

    (and, I'm paraphrasing)

    The Republicans think that passing immigration reform will get them more Hispanic votes; whereas,

    the Democrats Know that it will get them more votes.
    :)

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  6. This new initiative will put 20,000 more agents on the border, and will cost $20 Billion.

    Are we going to pay them $1,000,000.00/yr?

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  7. Ban the crapper.

    bob

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    1. Trish:

      "There is something really wrong with you, Rat."

      bob

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    2. What I was urging is for blacks to get a brain and not abort their children. What I have been urging is for people to respect life.

      And I have to put up with shit from crapper.

      Ban the crapper.

      He adds nothing to any discussion.

      He says Israel is a European colony.

      This is so stupid.

      It is time to ban the crapper.

      bob

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    3. Bob, you've proven yourself to be a silly, racist old man. Reading your meandering mind-farts makes me long for a well-deserved lobotomy.

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    4. No, boobie, you were advocating for the abortions of black babies.

      You are stupid.
      What you said and your attempts, now, to defend it, stupid in the extreme.

      Who was the pig that raped your daughter?
      If you do not know, why not?

      Why did you not report it to the police?

      Why did you abandon the women in your community?

      Why are you such a poor citizen?

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    5. My, my the personal attacks continue...

      Such a low standard for a blog.

      tsk tsk.

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    6. Rufus IIFri Jun 21, 10:11:00 AM EDT
      Bob, you've proven yourself to be a silly, racist old man. Reading your meandering mind-farts makes me long for a well-deserved lobotomy.

      You are not clear, are you wishing bob to have one or you?

      If it's you let me know I shall be happy to help with cash for your procedure. Didnt know they could perform those on such alcohol drenched brains, will the wonder of science ever be understood.

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  8. Better yet. Don't enage him

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  9. Trish was right.

    bob

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    1. But she is gone, boobie.
      The rapist never apprehended, the police report never filed.

      She thought it inappropriate to mention it.
      I do not. Goes to the core of good citizenship, to report attacks on our children.
      That you did not, lends credence to allen's claim that you may well have been the perp.

      Statistically speaking, it dovetails with your rendition of the story.
      11% of rape victims are raped by their fathers or step-fathers

      Why as the attack upon your family member never reported to authorities?
      What were you afraid of?

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    2. Could it have been your son that you were protecting ...

      16% are raped by other relatives

      It certainly was not the other women in your community.
      If your daughter was not raped by q family member, well, you left the other women in your community to become future targets of the rapist.

      Indicative of the cultural behavior you espouse as being "adult"?

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    3. Truly getting sicker by the day

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    4. desert ratFri Jun 21, 10:35:00 AM EDT
      Could it have been your son that you were protecting ...
      16% are raped by other relatives



      Projection Herr Rodent?

      One can only imagine the sick twisted things that desert rat has actually done in real life.

      His obsession with rape, abortion, murder, hitler just icebergs of sickness.

      It's good that he is hiding out on his occupied acres in AZ, there is GOOD reason he hides and avoids federal check points, only we cant figure out if it's local, federal or international war crimes he's responsible for...

      We know he's a self confessed murderer. We know that he admitted to spying on the FBI. That we know.

      What we dont know are the additional crimes he may have done recently.

      Not to worry, the folks at the FBi and NSA are surely aware of him...

      It's a matter of time...

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    5. desert ratFri Jun 21, 10:35:00 AM EDT
      Could it have been your son that you were protecting ...
      16% are raped by other relatives
      It certainly was not the other women in your community.
      If your daughter was not raped by q family member, well, you left the other women in your community to become future targets of the rapist.
      Indicative of the cultural behavior you espouse as being "adult"?



      This is exactly why I reported your threats to the AZ FBI.

      The fact that you claim to have spoken to an informant at the FBI? Proves you either violated the law or you are a liar.


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    6. .

      Could it have been your son that you were protecting ...

      One sick puppy.

      And the guy Deuce tells us is always courteous.

      .

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    7. Didn't provide the desired outcome, so ...
      I took the road more traveled.

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    8. boobie referenced trish's remarks, pehaps he forgot their context.
      I did not.

      She thought it was inappropriate, I do not.

      It goes to boobie's core values. Or lack there of.

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    9. .

      No it doesn't, you dumb shit. Your comment wan't about him it was about his brother.

      Your slimy assertions are bad enough when they are about someone on the blog but when you start making them about family, you prove what you are, garbage.

      .

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  10. boobie, you were the one that was banned, in the past.

    anoni would but can't, disengage.

    Just as the Israeli supported genocide in Guatemala and quot advocates for it in Palestine, anoni is lost. Left to admire Hitler and his policy of Lebensraum, the the Israeli so admiring of Hitler, his policies mimiced in Palestine.

    But then again, Hitler had Jewish blood coursing through his veins.
    Birds of a feather, flocking together, biologically and ideologically speaking.

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    1. Perfect example of a lunatic's rantings.

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  11. Getting stranger by the day the fantasies of rodent seemed to fly into the sun once again

    We are blessed to see the genius of rodent drop his pearls of poop like wisdom as often as a pig farts

    So the elephant blog let me change that the elephant bar blog holds the rodent up as an example to all posters

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    1. You are blessed, anoni, to be able to participate in the free exchange of ideas.

      That you appreciate it, a sign that you are growing.

      Learning the true meaning of genocide, merely an example of your growth.

      That you no longer dispute Hitler's Jewish genetic background, further evidence of your intellectual growth.

      That you have abandoned all pretext of identity, cute.

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    2. desert ratFri Jun 21, 11:25:00 AM EDT
      You are blessed, anoni, to be able to participate in the free exchange of ideas.
      That you appreciate it, a sign that you are growing.
      Learning the true meaning of genocide, merely an example of your growth.
      That you no longer dispute Hitler's Jewish genetic background, further evidence of your intellectual growth.
      That you have abandoned all pretext of identity, cute.


      There is no "discussion" with one such as you. You lie, twist and distort word and meaning as causally as Bill Clinton groped interns.

      As for your comical assertions about genocide and hitler?

      Just proves that you are seriously mentally unbalanced.

      You have been proven to be a liar or a conman numerous times over. Now all you do is drag this place down into the gutter.

      Thanks for doing that...


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    3. Proven?

      By whom?

      No anoni can prove a thing, they do not even exist.
      Just a figment of an imagination.

      The Hitler was of Jewish descendent a scientific fact.
      Do you deny science, as well as your own existence?

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    4. I am sure your fellow Aryan nation members while sitting around your bonfire will love to conclude Hitler's Jewish roots but for the rest of the world you're just an insane old fart whose long past usefulness or relevancy.

      So create your childish wordplay and argue with yourself til sunrise you are not worthy of any serious attempt at discussion

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  12. Syrian rebels say they have received a shipment of weapons from their allies, the latest since the US said it would give military support to opponents of President Bashar al-Assad.

    Free Syrian Army spokesman Louay Muqdad claimed the weapons could "change the course of the battle" against the Syrian regime.

    "We've received quantities of new types of weapons, including some that we asked for and that we believe will change the course of the battle on the ground," Muqdad told the AFP news agency.

    "We have begun distributing them on the front lines, they will be in the hands of professional officers and FSA fighters," he said.

    He did not specify what weapons had been received or when they had arrived, but added that another shipment was expected soon.

    "The weapons will be used for one objective, which is to fight the regime of Bashar al-Assad," Muqdad insisted. "They will be collected after the fall of the regime, we have made this commitment to the friends and brotherly countries."

    The shipment follows reports of Saudi-funded small arms and anti-tank missiles being delivered to Aleppo, where rebels are facing a build-up of regime forces, which are being supplied by Russia.

    The US agreed to give rebels "military support" after saying it had evidence that the regime had used chemical weapons against them.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday defended his country's arms deals with Assad's government and said the West should not send weapons to rebel forces that include "terrorist" groups.

    "If the United States ... recognises one of the key Syrian opposition organisations, [Jabhat] al-Nusra, as terrorist ... how can one deliver arms to those opposition members?" Putin said at an economic forum. "Where will [those weapons] end up? What role will they play?"

    Russia's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov also reiterated on Friday that Moscow would honour all weapons deals with the Syrian government.

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  13. On a on topic note....

    We are an aging population. Baby boomers are retiring at a growing rate everyday.

    If we legalize the illegals and bring in another 5-10 million in the next 15 years? Will that actually not help the Social Security and housing markets?

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    1. These people are highly qualified for low wage jobs.
      It's our responsibility to pay for their health care, as well as free healthcare for the unemployed US Citizens that they have displaced and replaced.

      Get with the program, sucker.

      RufieII tells us so.

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    2. Others of these worthies are highly qualified for lifetime welfare as well as free healthcare, it's our responsibility as legal residents.

      You know who tells me so.

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    3. I see free health care (such as it is) to be the future. Now for some of us? We will PAY thru the nose for a private insurance that will give us "elite" care.

      That number of Americans purchasing "elite" care will be very close to the number that now actually pay for their own health care already.

      Currently I pay $1487 a month, and I am low risk & healthy. I can see how I can end that insurance, get on the government "plan" for about $1100 (for the spouse and kids too) then purchase for about a $1000 a month a elite policy....

      In the end? I will be paying thru the ass....

      But I will not wait in clinic lines... Of course I am raising the price of my items by 3% to cover all additional expenses.

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  14. Illegals should have free health care, RufieII tells me so:

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    Investor's Business Daily: Using ObamaCare To
    Create A Permanent Democratic Majority - Betsy McCaughey


    The Investor's Business Daily editorial written by Betsy McCaughey details
    what the health care exchanges in Obamacare really are about. And she focuses on
    California because they're getting $910 million to set up the exchanges in
    California. Now, the exchanges, folks, are for one purpose and that's for you to
    go get your health care insurance. Every American, if you don't get your health
    care from your employer, you're gonna have to go to one of these exchanges to
    get it. It's a marketplace, it's a clearinghouse, theoretically. It's a catalog.
    You go pick the policy that you want based on what you want to pay -- they're
    all gonna be expensive. But it turns out these exchanges are just being used for
    Democrat Party outreach. I've detailed how.
    The NAACP is getting $600,000 from the California exchange. The AFL-CIO is
    getting $1 million. The Service Employees International Union is getting $2
    million. And for what? To go door-to-door, to register voters, to show up at
    community centers and make presentations on the Democrat Party and sell the
    Democrat Party agenda. A group called Community Health Councils, which is a
    California bunch that opposes fracking, for-profit hospitals, state budget cuts
    and oil exploration, got $1 million to conduct presentations at community and
    neighborhood meetings. "California's actual enrollment process is also
    outsourced to employees of community organizations, unions and health
    clinics."


    So when you show up to get your insurance at a California exchange, you might
    be dealing to somebody from the AFL-CIO. You might be dealing with somebody from
    the Service Employees International Union. Planned Parenthood is trying to get
    in on some of this money. Planned Parenthood wants some exchange money to
    promote their cause, which is abortion. It's another slush fund, folks. The
    health care exchanges are slush funds just like the stimulus bill was.


    California's Democrat controlled legislature does not want voters to
    know who exactly is getting close to $200 million in outreach funding, so they
    passed a law that creates an exception to the state's open records law
    .
    A grand total of $200 million in Democrat Party outreach will be allocated from
    the $910 million to set up the exchanges.


    ---


    "Assisters will also guide the uninsured to sign up for whatever non-health
    social services they may be eligible for, including welfare, food stamps and
    housing assistance, according to the manual prepared by the Community Health
    Councils for California's implementation.


    Anyone who remembers the days of James Curley, Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall
    gets the picture. If you were poor or a newcomer to this country, you went to
    the local ward boss and got whatever you needed in exchange for your vote.


    The difference is that back then, politics was local. Now the Obama health
    law is institutionalizing this corrupt style of politics across the country.
    Whether you live in California or New local community activists and unions will
    be recruiting people to enroll in ObamaCare and sign up to be part of the
    permanent, beholden Democratic voting majority."

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  15. Anybody other than Rat and me remember when Rufie 1 originally came out for amnesty for illegals 'cause he

    "liked my tacos?"

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    1. They were inexpensive, by comparison to the other fast food options, he told us.

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  16. "The NAACP is getting $600,000 from the California exchange. The AFL-CIO is
    getting $1 million. The Service Employees International Union is getting $2
    million. And for what? To go door-to-door, to register voters, to show up at
    community centers and make presentations on the Democrat Party and sell the
    Democrat Party agenda. A group called Community Health Councils, which is a
    California bunch that opposes fracking, for-profit hospitals, state budget cuts
    and oil exploration, got $1 million to conduct presentations at community and
    neighborhood meetings. "California's actual enrollment process is also
    outsourced to employees of community organizations, unions and health
    clinics.
    "

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    You can't make this shit up even if you're Rufie.

    Pure Genius, and that ain't Rufie.

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  17. .

    If you don't like the trends in the demographics of this country, get out and start fornicating.

    New immigrants will be the main driver of population growth in the U.S. by as early as 2027, according to new Census Bureau projections.

    This would be the first time in almost two centuries that new births will not be the largest source of U.S. population growth.

    The Census Bureau says its projections show a combination of declining fertility rates, aging baby boomers and ongoing immigration to the United States.

    This trend stems less from more immigrants coming into the country than from Americans having fewer babies, explains Douglas Massey, who studies immigration patterns at Princeton University...


    http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/05/15/184232039/immigrants-to-be-largest-driver-of-u-s-population-growth

    .

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    1. If the son had not found a keeper, I'd send him out to do the deeds for me.

      Somehow I've lost all interest in chicks of fecund age.

      ---

      An older lady with a good rack, not so much.

      (Can't find a rich ex on Google that met the text)

      Her mom looked pretty good at our age.

      ...Pierpont Inn in Ventura, CA.
      (look it up)

      Those were the days.

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    3. She showed me some of those historic individual rooms.

      I was too dumb to do the deed then and there.

      ...settled for a BJ in the VW.

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    4. "Weary travelers needed a hotel along the California coast to rest and recharge with a home cooked meal.

      Josephine Pierpont rose to the challenge and commissioned famous architect, Sumner P. Hunt to design a Craftsman bungalow style inn which would later become the hotel in Ventura, CA as it is today.

      Our Ventura hotel property encompasses decades of rich architecture featuring two 1925 English Tudor Revival cottages and a 1935 Spanish Revival Banquet Center."

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    6. ...all else has failed,
      I'm trying Diversion Therapy)

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    7. "Multilingual staff"

      ...a new addition.

      Since 1965, at least.

      All I got was Multilingus.

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  18. California Auditor: State Has $127 Billion Net Asset Deficit

    The California State Auditor has released the state government's audit for the 2011-12 year (PDF).

    The state collected $218 billion (including $60 billion in federal aid, $104 billion in state taxes, and $51 billion in various fees and charges), but spent over $225 billion, a deficit twice the size of the year before. On the books, the state has $199.9 billion in assets but $215.4 billion in liabilities; eliminating assets unpledgable against obligations results in an unrestricted net asset deficit of a staggering -$127 billion. Put succinctly, the state has booked $127 billion more in promises and liabilities than it has assets to pay for them. (Part of this is because the state borrows to build things for local governments but turns title over to them, which is running up debts.) It's been getting deeper every year.

    The report did not include the full cost of state retiree health and pension costs, so the real amount is probably much higher.

    In November, California raised its top income tax rate to 13.3 percent, now the highest in the country. The change was retroactive to the beginning of 2012 (as was a recent clawback of a business deduction), so a burst of revenue will likely happen in the short-term. In the long-term, it depends on your worldview: does a high level of state spending promote economic growth, or will high taxes drag economic growth?

    (Hint: High earners and profitable businesses are leaving in increasingly larger droves.)

    But hey, they're Green:

    Rufie tells us so.

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    Sunny and Green California:

    The land of milk and (made up) money.

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  19. I now see the crapper is accusing my son of raping my daughter.

    The crapper is one sick-o.

    Only a mind like this could come up with the idea that Israel is an example of European colonialism.


    This man is off the charts.

    My cat at the foot of my bed is one hell of a lot saner.

    bb

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    1. No, boobie, I said that allen, your Jewish compatriot, made the claim that you did.
      I merely mentioned that 26% of reported rapes were by family members. We can assume the percentage would be higher in unreported rapes, which is what you told us occurred.
      So if it was not you that raped the girl, it well could have been the brother.
      Statistically speaking.

      If not, why did you not report the rape to the police?
      Why did you leave your community at risk?
      Why are you such a poor citizen, behaving like a child, hiding from reality?

      Why did you not even give the police the information needed to attempt to find the culprit, unless you knew who he was?

      Are you that complacent about public safety?
      So lackadaisical that you endangered your own community with your apathy?

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    2. By the above person's standard he should turn himself in for breaking the law concerning an "informant at the fbi" that gave him information that a civilian, who is not in law enforcement, should have access to.

      Are you a blowhard liar or a criminal.

      Those are your choices.

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    3. Not at all, anoni.
      There are many more choices available.

      Watch and learn

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    4. Well the FBI arresting you ain't your choice

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  20. Doug, at least Ruf's heart is in the right place.

    He may be a little wacky but he is not insane.

    bob

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    1. Rat's insane, therefore not a threat to most outside his immediate circle.

      Rufie's "heart" is pure Socialism.

      The end of a great country.

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    2. All heart:

      ...with other people's money.

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    3. ...like professing to be "Green,"

      ...and not having solar hot water in Mississippi!

      Without Shame.

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  21. Illegals created South Central LA
    (Rodney King Land)

    aka, Watts.

    ...by displacing legal black workers with lower cost illegal labor.

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  22. Well Ruf may be a little bit nuts but I will always maintain he is not clinically insane.


    bob

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  23. That would if course be up to a jury.

    But I do wonder about 'a jury of his peers'.

    bob

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    1. of course, of course
      bob

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    2. That's my point:

      He's not insane enough to not be a threat.

      ...just stubbornly wrongheaded about Econ 101.

      (one of the classes I got an A in in college)

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  24. .

    On a on topic note....

    We are an aging population. Baby boomers are retiring at a growing rate everyday.

    If we legalize the illegals and bring in another 5-10 million in the next 15 years? Will that actually not help the Social Security and housing markets?



    Population growth is one of the key drivers of GDP growth. The population growth comes from either births or immigration. The US birth rate was declining for twelve straight years until 2002 when it hit an all time low. It then reversed and started moving up again until the recession at which time it started moving down again. Last year it hit a new all time low.

    Birth Rate Plunges During Recession

    Birth rates hit an historic low in America last year. This small number of newborns will hit the workforce in 20 years, just as the last baby boomer reaches full retirement age. The pension math is not pretty.


    http://business.time.com/2012/12/04/birth-rate-plunges-during-recession/#ixzz2WsMPQZJS

    I suspect we will get immigration reform by the end of the year and likely no one will be happy.

    With regard to the illegals already here, some would argue that they are already a draw on resources and that making them legal would only help while others would argue the opposite. There is likely no way that argument will be settled for a decade or more.

    However, one big change we can expect is in the H1B process and the 'sisters versus scientists' merit argument.

    For the first time, automatic legal permanent residency -- green cards -- would be accorded to an unlimited number of high achievers, including scientists, professors, executives and holders of doctoral degrees in any field from any country.

    Experts estimate the overall number of green cards issued to foreigners based on personal merit and skill could triple under the measure's new or expanded provisions.


    http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2013/jun/03/immigration-bill-favors-skilled-workers-over/#ixzz2WsQVV0UT

    While I see the shift to a merit based system as positive, there is still the issue of are the companies requesting the increased H1B's doing so because they can't find qualified people here already (their argument) or is it that they can't find qualified people here that will work for the pay scale they offer (my argument)? It appears Congress is trying to address that issue by attempting to "...get rid of abuse in the H1-B system by allowing the federal government to audit businesses and requires that they give immigrants a prevailing market wage.

    The following compares the differences in the Senate and House versions on the H1B issues.

    http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/23/congress-crowdsourcing-new-high-skilled-immigration-bill-contribute-here/

    Whatever happens, we are likely to get (be stuck with ?) a bill that no one will be fully satisfied with.

    .

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    1. Teddy Kennedy's Legacy:

      Illiterate, fecund, low earners given preferential treatment.

      A sure formula for success.

      ...or as Rat says: "We're Americanizing Mexico"

      More like maybe you'll be lucky and Mexico will come to You.

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    2. Low wage earners and Welfare cheats getting "high quality" healthcare.

      ...a sure formula for success.

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    3. ...and a "sure cure" for Social Security, for which they will be eligible, if not worthy.

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    4. Giving highly educated high earners preference (Like Australia and other Sane Countries)?

      Not an option,

      might prolong the Socialist State,

      for a while.

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  25. Hispanics aren't the only beneficiaries:

    Millions of folk who overstayed their Visas will be eligible.

    ...like some of the Saudi 9-11 clan.

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  26. (had they not vaporized themselves in their humanitarian pursuit)

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  27. "Peace with justice means refusing to condemn our children to a harsher, less hospitable planet," he said. "The effort to slow climate change requires bold action. … Our dangerous carbon emissions have come down. But we know we have to do more. And we will do more."

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    After Europe has abandoned the folly, and Red China continues to build coal power plants.

    Just give GE some more free money.

    That'll fix our crony capitalist state.

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