COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Tuesday, May 28, 2013

President Obama is to be commended for resisting neocon and liberal interventionist clamors to get us into yet another open-ended war. For we have no vital interest in Assad’s overthrow.


We have lived with Assad and his father for 40 years. And what did our intervention in Libya to oust Moammar Gadhafi produce but a failed state, the Benghazi atrocity, and the spread of al-Qaida into Mali and Niger?

Why should Americans die for a Sunni triumph in Syria? At best, we might bring about a new Muslim Brotherhood regime in Damascus, as in Cairo. At worst, we could get a privileged sanctuary for that al-Qaida affiliate, the Al-Nusra Front.

THE REAL HISTORY OF PALESTINE AND THE PRESENT MIDDLE EAST. YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE PRESENT WITHOUT KNOWING ABOUT THE BRITISH AND FRENCH COLONIALISM THAT SET THE STAGE :


THE UNRAVELING OF SYKES-PICOT

By: Patrick J. Buchanan
5/28/2013 01:03 PM
The thrice-promised land it has been called.
It is that land north of Mecca and Medina and south of Anatolia, between the Mediterranean Sea and the Persian Gulf.
In 1915 — that year of Gallipoli, which forced the resignation of First Lord of the Admiralty Winston Churchill — Britain, to win Arab support for its war against the Ottoman Turks, committed, in the McMahon Agreement, to the independence of these lands under Arab rule.
It was for this that Lawrence of Arabia and the Arabs fought.
In November 1917, however, one month before Gen. Allenby led his army into Jerusalem, Lord Balfour, in a letter to Baron Rothschild, declared that His Majesty’s government now looked with favor upon the creation on these same lands of a national homeland for the Jewish people.
Between these clashing commitments there had been struck in 1916 a secret deal between Britain’s Mark Sykes and France’s Francois Georges-Picot. With the silent approval of czarist Russia, which had been promised Istanbul, these lands were subdivided and placed under British and French rule.
France got Syria and Lebanon. Britain took Transjordan, Palestine and Iraq, and carved out Kuwait.
Vladimir Lenin discovered the Sykes-Picot treaty in the czar’s archives and published it, so the world might see what the Great War was truly all about. Sykes-Picot proved impossible to reconcile with Woodrow Wilson’s declaration that he and the allies — the British, French, Italian, Russian and Japanese empires — were all fighting “to make the world safe for democracy.”
Imperial hypocrisy stood naked and exposed.
Wilson’s idealistic Fourteen Points, announced early in 1918, were crafted to recapture the moral high ground. Yet it was out of the implementation of Sykes-Picot that so much Arab hostility and hatred would come — and from which today’s Middle East emerged.
Nine decades on, the Sykes-Picot map of the Middle East seems about to undergo revision, and a new map, its borders drawn in blood, emerge, along the lines of what H.G. Wells called the “natural borders” of mankind.
“There is a natural and necessary political map of the world,” Wells wrote, “which transcends” these artificial states, and this natural map of mankind would see nations established on the basis of language, culture, creed, race and tribe. The natural map of the Middle East has begun to assert itself.
Syria is disintegrating, with Alawite Shia fighting Sunni, Christians siding with Damascus, Druze divided, and Kurds looking to break free and unite with their kinfolk in Turkey, Iraq and Iran. Their dream: a Kurdistani nation rooted in a common ethnic identity.
Shia Hezbollah controls the south of Lebanon, and with Shia Iran is supporting the Shia-led army and regime of Bashar Assad.
Together, they are carving out a sub-nation from Damascus to Homs to the Mediterranean. The east and north of Syria could be lost to the Sunni rebels and the Al-Nusra Front, an ally of al-Qaida.
Sectarian war is now spilling over into Lebanon.
Iraq, too, seems to be disintegrating. The Kurdish enclave in the north is acting like an independent nation, cutting oil deals with Ankara.
Sunni Anbar in the west is supporting Sunni rebels across the border in Syria. And the Shia regime in Baghdad is being scourged by Sunni terror that could reignite the civil-sectarian war of 2006-2007, this time without Gen. Petraeus’ U.S. troops to negotiate a truce or tamp it down.
Sunni Turkey is home to 15 million Kurds and 15 million Shia. And its prime minister’s role as middle man between Qatari and Saudi arms shipments and Syria’s Sunni rebels is unappreciated by his own people.
Seeing the Shia crescent — Hezbollah in Lebanon, Assad’s Syria, Nuri al-Maliki’s Iraq, the Ayatollah’s Iran — imperiled by the potential loss of its Syrian linchpin, Tehran and Hezbollah seem willing to risk far more in this Syrian war than does the Sunni coalition of Saudis, Qataris and Turks.
Who dares, wins.
Though the Turks have a 400,000-man, NATO-equipped army, a population three times that of Syria and an economy 12 times as large, and they are, with the Israelis, the strongest nations in the region, they appear to want the Americans to deal with their problem.
President Obama is to be commended for resisting neocon and liberal interventionist clamors to get us into yet another open-ended war. For we have no vital interest in Assad’s overthrow.
We have lived with him and his father for 40 years. And what did our intervention in Libya to oust Moammar Gadhafi produce but a failed state, the Benghazi atrocity, and the spread of al-Qaida into Mali and Niger?
Why should Americans die for a Sunni triumph in Syria? At best, we might bring about a new Muslim Brotherhood regime in Damascus, as in Cairo. At worst, we could get a privileged sanctuary for that al-Qaida affiliate, the Al-Nusra Front.
As the Sykes-Picot borders disappear and the nations created by the mapmakers of Paris in 1919-1920 disintegrate, a Muslim Thirty Years’ War may be breaking out in the thrice-promised land
It is not, and it should not become, America’s war.
Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?”

137 comments:

  1. An arms race appears to be breaking out, with Britain and France ending the embargo on arms to the rebs and Russia, Iran arming Assad, and -

    Report: Obama asks Pentagon to draw up plan for no-fly zone in Syria


    posted at 6:01 pm on May 28, 2013 by Allahpundit

    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/28/report-obama-asks-pentagon-to-draw-up-plan-for-no-fly-zone-in-syria/

    >> It’d be a huge, aggressive operation, and the presence of those Russian missiles means it might not be without casualties. How’s O going to explain American airmen being killed to influence a war between Sunni fundamentalists and a puppet of Shiite fundamentalists? Western air power would also likely be called on to shoot down Iranian aircraft carrying supplies to Assad, which would end the nuclear-talks charade between Iran and the west (admittedly, not a bad thing) and widen the war in unpredictable ways. Compared to the potential costs, the benefits of intervention are too gassy to rally the public solidly behind military action. War in Libya could be sold as payback for Qaddafi, a longtime enemy and terror supporter (who became a kinda sorta friend in the past decade), and as a humanitarian gesture towards Libyans, whose political sympathies were more obscure after decades of Qaddafism than the Syrian rebels’ are. Assad’s less well known to Americans and, after two years of Islamist flower under the Arab Spring, the fate of Syria after he’s gone is easy to predict. That’s a harsh landscape against which to make the case for a NFZ. Even McCain seems to think it’s a bluff.

    If you missed this last month, watch a palpably skeptical Martin Dempsey explain the challenges of a no-fly zone.
    video<<

    No matter what Israel does it will be criticized here.

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    1. >>> with Alawite Shia fighting Sunni<<<

      Buchanan must be an idiot. He hasn't understood the memo from General Bunk that these folks are pagans with a Christian twist.

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  2. Pat must not read Daniel Pipes.

    Maybe he does not appreciate Mr Pipes and his talents.
    Maybe he never even heard of Mr Pipes.

    Mr Buchanan is no Librarian.

    Do not know what he thinks of Ben Disraeli, TE Lawrence or Jesuit scholar Henri Lammens.

    I do know they were, any one of them, more informed about Syria and the people there than you are, boobie.
    Now you claim you do not even read, before you respond.

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  3. The gruesome murder of a soldier outside London by a Muslim convert, Michael Adebolajo, brings to mind that throat slitting and beheading are Islamically sanctioned forms of execution. Although these occur particularly often in the course of family-related crimes – think, for example, of the case of Aasiya Hassan in suburban Buffalo, N.Y., killed by her husband in 2009, stabbed with two hunting knives more than forty times in the face, back and chest, then beheaded – this monstrous form of violence is also used in non-family instances.

    Some of those that took place over the past decade in the West in chronological order include:

    Ariel Sellouk – Houston, August 2003: throat slit attempted but incomplete beheading.
    Sébastien Selam – Paris, November 2003: throat was slit twice; his face was mutilated with a carving fork and his eyes were gouged out by a Muslim neighbor who boasted “I killed my Jew, I’ll go to paradise.”
    Theo Van Gogh – Amsterdam, November 2004: shot, throat slit, and five-page paper pinned to his body.

    ...

    In addition, Ibragim Todashev, who was shot and killed yesterday while being interviewed about the Waltham murders, reportedly grabbed a knife and stabbed an officer several times, including in the head, possibly an attempt on his neck. In any case, it was so threatening that the officers used deadly force and on the spot killed Todashev.


    - Daniel Pipes

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    1. Mr Pipes describes, accurately I believe, three attacks that were motivated by sectarian hatred.
      Three in two years, almost a decade ago.

      Now, if we investigate the numbers of Muslims in Europe, ...

      Europe’s Muslim population is projected to grow from 44.1 million in 2010

      So, out of the 44 million Muslims in Europe, Mr Pipes fond three prior incidents of Islamoid inspired throat slicing/stabbing, in Europe in the past decade.

      I believe that to be accurate.
      One radical Islamoid fatal knife attack, per 13 million Muslims, per decade.

      This has been happening, in Phoenix ...

      Arias stabbed and slashed Alexander nearly 30 times, shot in him in the forehead and slit his throat, nearly decapitating him, before leaving his body in his shower to be found by friends about five days later.

      "To this day, I can hardly believe I was capable of such violence. But I know that I was," Arias told jurors. "And for that, I'm going to be sorry for the rest of my life."


      Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/22/jodi-arias-pleads-for-life-in-prison-as-jury-mulls-penalty-for-murder/#ixzz2Udge9QoO

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    2. One attack per 14 million Muslims, per decade.

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    3. After all the stuff I've posted about moslems raping Swedish women.

      Though it's not, after all, beheading.

      But still.....

      I know!!

      Let's read together, General Bunker - here, let's try this site -

      Sunday, February 20, 2011

      Islamists caused overwhelming majority of terrorist deaths in Europe during last decade

      http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/02/islamists-caus-overwhelming-majority-of.html

      The number is greater than three.

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  4. Daniel Pipes has forgotten about John The Baptist?

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  5. It hardly gets more Judeo-Christian than that.

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    1. Well after all, Deuce, it was all the fault of Salome, who wanted John's head in a basket for slut dancing.

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    2. but of course the femme-fatale, the fear and torment of pussy, mommy obsessed, the torment and tease to the Abrahamic Judeo- Christian dick. No where expressed better than the virgin birth, rampant in the Middle East.

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    3. Wow.

      >>the fear and torment of pussy, mommy obsessed, the torment and tease to the Abrahamic Judeo- Christian dick<<

      But the virgin birth is world wide.

      Here's Eckhardt on the old image -

      http://www.spiritandflesh.com/textMeisterEckhartSermon.htm

      - which doesn't seem to have much to do with this -

      >>the fear and torment of pussy, mommy obsessed, the torment and tease to the Abrahamic Judeo- Christian dick<<

      Perhaps you are thinking of Freud, of the lower chakras?

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    4. A better way of reading the passage might be to think of Salome as the one obsessed, in her case by a man of some purity, which she does not understand.

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    5. That is certainly worth a head hacking.

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    6. I doubt that the unfortunate incident was recorded by a woman.

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    7. Why anyone would want to die for any of these religions in incomprehensible to me.

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    8. Deuce: No where expressed better than the virgin birth, rampant in the Middle East.


      There is no "virgin" birth in the Jewish tradition, what others did to our books aint our responsibility.

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  6. There were more in his list. I only posted the first 3. The rest of him in his list:

    Hossam Armanious, Amal Garas, Sylvia Armanious, and Monica Armanious, – Jersey City, N.J., January 2005: necks, throats and bodies stabbed, mutilation of Coptic tattoo. (A non-Muslim was found guilty of this crime; I do not accept that verdict.)
    Brendan Mess, Erik Weissman, and Raphael Teken - Waltham, Massachusetts, September 2011: throats slit, probably by Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the Boston Marathon bombers.
    Hany F. Tawadros and Amgad A. Konds – Jersey City, N.J., February 2013: shot, decapitated, hands severed.
    Lee Rigby – Woolwich, England, May 2013: run over by car, mutilated, beheaded.

    Beheading In The West

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    1. Three of those four, were in the US, not efecting the numbers for Europe.
      Poor Mr Rigby, either he changes the numbers, a bit, or starts a new decade.

      Four attacks in a decade, 44 million Muslims.
      One attack per 11 million Muslims, per decade.

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    2. After all the stuff I've posted about moslems raping Swedish women.

      Though it's not, after all, beheading.

      But still.....

      I know!!

      Let's read together, General Bunker - here, let's try this site -

      Sunday, February 20, 2011

      Islamists caused overwhelming majority of terrorist deaths in Europe during last decade

      http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/02/islamists-caus-overwhelming-majority-of.html

      The number is greater than three.

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    3. What is the number of attempted decapitations?

      The number, what is it?

      Four, Five, Ten?

      Each of those is greater than three.

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    4. Prove Pipes wrong.

      Your word is not enough.
      Document it, boobie.

      What is the number of attempted or successful decapitations in Europe, in the past decade?

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  8. Besides head hunting was practiced in the Pacific during WWII. a good read: Airmen and the Headhunters.

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  9. For interests on both sides of Syria’s civil war, this has been the week to increase the pressure. Hezbollah sent reinforcements to the troops of President Bashar al-Assad, and Russia reiterated its intention to furnish the regime with weapons. At the same time, Republican Sen. John McCain secretly visited rebels and promised to push the Obama administration to arm the retreating forces. The European Union lifted its weapons embargo as nations such as Britain and France appear increasingly eager to aid the resistance fighters.

    But amid the burst in outside engagement, one influential group seems noticeably silent. The liberal hawks, a cast of prominent left-leaning intellectuals, played high-profile roles in advocating for American military intervention on foreign soil — whether for regime change or to prevent humanitarian disasters. They pressured President Bill Clinton to intervene in Bosnia, provided intellectual cover on the left for President George W. Bush’s war in Iraq and urged President Obama to engage in Libya. But even as the body count edges toward 100,000 in Syria and Assad appears to have used chemical weapons, liberal advocates for interceding have been rare, spooked perhaps by the traumatic experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan and the clear reluctance of a Democratic president to get mired in the Middle East.


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  10. If Assad retakes the town, he would shore up his hold on the land corridor linking his stronghold in Damascus with loyalist areas along the Mediterranean coast. For the rebels, losing Qusair would mean losing a supply line to nearby Lebanon.

    ...

    Michael Clarke, director of London's Royal United Services Institute think tank, said the EU decision will mean little on the ground for now. He said it is a message to Assad that "the Geneva process is the last good chance you're ever going to have of getting out of this situation without the civil war getting considerably worse _ and in one piece."

    He said it's also telling the Russians that "we are not going to be intimidated by a lot of Russian huffing and puffing at the moment."

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    1. Well, sure, the Russians will be supplying weapons to Syria, which is a tad different than their huffing and puffing in London or Paris.

      Those in London and Paris will not be anywhere near the Russian weapons, just the Russians, themselves. Breath the borscht, baby.

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    2. Editing, boobie.

      Not shouting.

      By the bye, what is the number?

      How did they get that black baby from Kenya through passport and customs, in Hawaii?
      If there was an immigration record of the babies passage, who could have destroyed or squelched it?

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    3. Who hacked the Hawaiian birth record data base?

      Who got Obama into and out of Columbia, without him being there?

      Was Obama in Pakistan instead of Columbia?

      John O. Brennan was in Pakistan when Obama was, too.

      Connect the dots you have drawn, boobie.

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    4. Or admit they are not dots, at all.

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  12. They hunt heads in the New Hebrides. Or at least did not so long ago.

    The shrunken head is an honored object, that fellow's mana gone to energize the hunter. Something like that, anyway.

    I think I read you had to have a shrunken head to have a decent wedding. Get's the pecker up good, maybe. Something like that.

    Honorable (sarc) tradition. Time out of mind.

    Mentioned in Campbell. Also the boar tusks. Waxing and waning of the moon, the ever recurring moon.

    Exterminate the savages. Heart of Darkness. Kurtz. Insane. All of them. Kurtz too. Jungle.

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    1. Apocalypse Now redux is playing on the big screen, fancy that.

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    2. Still waiting on that number, from Europe, boobie

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    3. You can do it General, really you can, just google 'moslem attacks in Europe'. Mght add 'in the last 20 years' or something. Read around for a day or two. You'll get the hang of it.

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    4. I'm watching Fox on the IRS scandal, the new tornados and washing my clothes. Not that I would help you anyway. It being futile.

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    5. SCANDAL? WHAT SCANDAL?
      Washington launches four different investigations into IRS mess...
      Issa subpoenas State Dept. documents on Benghazi...
      REPORT: HOLDER WENT JUDGE SHOPPING TO OBTAIN FOXNEWS SUBPOENA...
      House Judiciary investigating whether Attorney General lied under oath...
      REPORT: Holder 'beginning to feel creeping sense of personal remorse'...drudge

      I like the last. Holder sounds like he is feeling sorry for himself.

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    6. It was already done, boobie, by Daniel Pipes, he came up with four, in a decade.

      You said that was wrong, that it was more.
      But you do not REALLY know, now, do you?

      You just babble and shit flows out your mouth.

      You have been caught, gain, boobie.
      Another lie about Muslims you cannot sustain in the light of day.

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    7. 100,000 Christians die for faith every year: Vatican




      AFP 5/28/2013 4:01:39 PM

      A top Vatican official has said around 100,000 Christians are killed every year for reasons linked to their faith and pointed to the Middle East, Africa and Asia as the biggest problem areas.

      Monsignor Silvano Maria Tomasi was quoted by Vatican radio on Tuesday as saying that the figures were "shocking" and "incredible".

      Tomasi said Christians were also forced to leave their homes and see their churches destroyed in some parts of the world, and were often subjected to rapes, kidnappings and discrimination.

      The Vatican official made particular reference to the kidnapping of two Orthodox bishops near Aleppo in Syria last month.

      Religious freedom is beset by "sectarianism, intolerance, terrorism and exclusionary laws," he said, while also pointing to exceptions like Bangladesh where he said rights are protected.

      Another senior Vatican figure, the secretary of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, Mario Toso, said recently that discrimination against Christians "should be countered in the same way as anti-Semitism and Islamophobia".

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    8. Sounds as if you are beginning to feel real sorry or yourself, boobie.

      Tell me, boobie, do you think you have a Swedish Soul or a Christian Soul?

      They cannot be conflated.

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    9. Yep, anoni, the Christians are safe in Europe and the Americas.

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    10. Africa, Asia, the Middle East, not so much.

      But then, that is true of most everybody in those regions, not just Christians.

      The reality is that all kinds of folks are mostly safe in Europe and the Americas, while wars rage in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Making them dangerous places, for everyone, visitor and native.

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  13. The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported sporadic clashes and some shelling in Qusayr on Tuesday, although the fighting was much lighter than in previous days.

    Syria's state-run news agency said Ahmed al-Shaar, the chairman of the National Reconciliation Committee was killed in Qusayr, blaming terrorists for his death. Syrian officials refer to rebels as terrorists whose aims to destroy Syria are backed by the West and their Gulf Arab allies.

    Hezbollah's growing role in the fighting has also exacerbated tensions in the northern port city of Tripoli, where gunfights in the streets between factions backing opposing sides in the Syrian conflict have left at least 28 people dead.

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  14. On this day in 1957, baseball owners voted unanimously to move the Brooklyn Dodgers and the New York Giants to Los Angeles and San Francisco, respectively.

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  15. Canada’s top diplomat Tuesday warned of “more violence, more deaths and more destruction” in Syria that risks spilling over into neighboring countries if the European Union arms Syrian insurgents.

    "My strong view is that the only way to end the suffering of the Syrian people is a political solution," Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird told reporters.

    "Flooding the country and the region with more arms will lead to more violence, more deaths and more destruction, so certainly Canada has no intention of following suit," he said.

    "Our strong concern is the number of radical jihadist which have entered parts of the opposition and in our view, that's not getting better, it's getting worse."

    The EU agreed late Monday to lift its embargo on arming the Syrian opposition groups after much debate and a strong push by France and Britain.

    Russia expressed disappointment Tuesday of the EU decision, saying it undermines the peace process in the country.

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  16. Getting to be a little like Spain during its Civil War - outside powers arming opposing sides so neither side can lose and neither side can win except after a long struggle.

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  17. Missing from the list below is the plot by a jihadist to plead guilty in plot to bomb NY Federal Reserve, the jihadi attack on a church Easter Sunday in March, the Muslim charged with jihad in New York, muslim gets ten years for plotting to blow up NY synagogues and slaughter Jews, a Washington Muslim convert who has stated his "willingness to die for Islam" stabs two people after discussion of religion, the Oregon Muslim charged with assisting homicide bomber who killed 30, the Florida Imam Hafiz Khan guilty in terror case, Yusuf Ibrahim, a 27-year-old Egyptian immigrant who on Feb. 5 allegedly beheaded two Coptic Christians living in New Jersey, Ali Syed, a 20-year-old Muslim who allegedly randomly killed three people in Southern California on Feb. 18 before killing himself, Ammar Asim Faruq Harris, a 26-year-old reported black Muslim convert who on Feb. 21 is said to have killed three people in Las Vegas, the Muslim who forced daughter into arranged marriage suspected in murders of relatives who helped her escape, the jihadist who tried to blow up the Oakland Bank of America, the NY Muslim arrested for series of 20 bomb threats, the Oregon Muslim who tried to detonate an 1,800 bomb at a Christmas Tree lighting ceremony targeting 25,000 families (check out his jihad tape), the Chicago Muslim who got 35 years for Mumbai jihad slaughter

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  18. the three NY Muslims charged with training to be jihad-martyrdom suicide bombers, the Florida Muslim planned to blow up NYC landmark, the Chicago Muslim gets ten years in prison for jihad plot, the Alabama Muslims arrested on terror charges, plotted to wage jihad in Africa, the Texas jihadi bomber Who was one chemical Away from building a bomb, the Muslim arrested for bombing Arizona Social Security office with IED, the two Florida Muslim brothers arrested on jihad charges "to use a weapon of mass destruction (explosives) against persons and property within the United States", the four California Muslims arrested in plot to wage ‘violent jihad’ on America: plotting to kill Americans, bomb government facilities and public place, the Massachusetts Muslim who got 17 years for jihad plot to blow up Pentagon and US Capitol, a former U.S. soldier charged with conspiring to use destructive device while fighting with Al Qa'ida affiliated group in Syria, Ahmed Warsame pled guilty in NY for providing material support to al-Shabaab and AQAP, Abu Khalid Abdul-Latif sentenced for plot to attack Seattle military processing center, Abdel Hameed Shehadeh convicted of false statements in terror case, Al Shabaab's Mohamed Ibrahim Ahmed sentenced in SDNY to 111 months for conspiring to support and receive military-type training from a FTO, Federal grand jury probing double-murder in Pakistan - may have been ordered by NYC cabbie, the Texas Muslim arrested with fake military ID, weapons, access to chemical agents, the US Muslim Teen arrested in jihad bomb plot using weapons of mass destruction, targets included military recruiting centers, bars, malls, and other tourist attractions in Chicago, the "Active" terror plots linked to Iran, Hizballah in Los Angeles area,the Florida Muslim pleads guilty to terror plot to kill high ranking US military brass, the Muslim soldier who got a life sentence for second Fort Hood jihad plot, the Chicago Muslim homicide bomber that plead guilty,

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  19. and of course the Muslim accused in US bomb plots including dams, nuclear plants and home of President Bush: "Time for Jihad", the Queens NY Muslim convicted of plotting to wage jihad on New York City, the Chicago Muslim who pled guilty to Wrigleyville bomb plot, the Massachussets Muslim who lived a double life," appearing as a "dutiful and scholarly young man" to his family and community, but in reality, he "was a proponent of violence as a means of achieving political Islamic goals" -and conspired to help Al Qaeda, the NYC Muslim centenced to 27 Years, convicted of conspiracy to commit murder and other charges in the cause of jihad, the Muslim homicide Bomber arrested on his way to blow up one of our nation's most symbolic landmarks, caught after leaving mosque,m the Muslim charged with the attempted car bombing in Florida, the American Muslim Pleads Guilty in Bomb Plot of Maryland Military Recruiting Center, the convicted North Carolina jihadist accused of plotting to behead witnesses, the Colorado Muslim arrested on Islamic terror charges, the American Muslim: who went from US boarding school to Al Qaeda homicide bomber, the Alabama Muslim who staged a shootout with cops "to draw attention to Islam"

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    1. Sunday, April 21, 2013
      Obama's Epic Intel Failure: Jihad in America

      http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/04/obamas-epic-intel-failure-jihad-in-america.html

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    2. Pamela Geller: Obama surrenders

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/05/pamela-geller-obama-surrenders.html

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    3. Geller, born to Jewish parents Reuben (“Ruby") and Lillian Geller, is the third of four sisters. Growing up in Hewlett Harbor, Long Island, New York, she assisted in her father's business, where she learned to speak fluent Spanish. Two of her sisters became doctors, and the third became a teacher.

      Geller attended Lynbrook High School and Hofstra University, though she left before completing her degree.
      She is also an ardent Zionist.

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    4. I would expect an ardent Zionist to disapprove of anything short of complete fealty to the cause from Obama.

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    5. It perplexes me that you could possibly believe that any normal human being would not want revenge for all the warring and killing done over the years against them. Quit warring and killing them and eventually that causal effect will diminish. Accelerating the process and you expect what, their undying admiration for our having killed their aunt who was killed watching television with the family dog?

      Do you expect gratitude for the loss of a small family business from collateral damage by some hotshot pilot with a nice smile from Cali that missed in his bombing run?

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    6. Please, do you understand the concept of conflict of interest?

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    7. She is not an objective journalist.

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    8. Here is her own biography:

      Pamela Geller is the founder, editor and publisher of Atlas Shrugs.com and executive director of the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) and Stop Islamization of America (SIOA). She is the author of Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance (WND Books) and The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration's War on America with Robert Spencer (foreword by Ambassador John Bolton), (Simon & Schuster). She is also a regular columnist for World Net Daily, Andrew Breitbart’s Big Government and Big Journalism, the American Thinker, and other publications.

      Pamela Geller received the Annie Taylor Award for Courage in 2010 from the David Horowitz Freedom Center. In October 2011, the United States Marine Corps presented her with the flag flown on September 11, 2011 over Camp Leatherneck, “amid the battlefields of Afghanistan during decisive operations against enemy forces in Helmand Province."

      She has been the subject of a profile on 60 Minutes, and of a cover story in the Sunday New York Times Metro section. The Times also published an in-depth interview with her. She has made appearances on NBC Nightly News, ABC, CNN, AP, Reuters, the Sean Hannity Show, the Bill O'Reilly Show, Red Eye, Geraldo, the Mike Huckabee Show, and other shows on the Fox News channel. She has been featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the Daily Mail and the Telegraph.

      Geller’s articles and op-eds have been published in the Guardian, Fox News, The Washington Times, Big Government, Big Journalism, Human Events, The American Thinker, Newsmax, Hudson NY, Pajamas Media, Israel National News, World Net Daily, FrontPage magazine, New Media Journal, and Canada Free Press, among other publications.

      Geller is a frequent guest on talk radio and has regular segments on two radio shows, The Jaz McKay Show and Jamie Allman In the Morning. Geller has been a featured speaker at the David Horowitz Freedom Center’s Restoration Weekend and at numerous Tea Party and pro-freedom events across the nation.

      Pamela Geller has broken numerous important stories -- notably the questionable and illegal foreign sources of some of the financing of the Obama campaign , the anti-Semitic posts on Obama’s website, Obama's political organizing in public school classrooms, ACORN's destruction of Republican voter registrations, and many more, but perhaps she is best known for her leadership against the Ground Zero mosque.

      Pamela Geller began her publishing career at The New York Daily News and subsequently took over operation of The New York Observer as Associate Publisher.

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    9. .

      Well, gee, finally we all agree on something, journalists are biased as, I might add, are we all. The only reason we post something here is either to argue for arguments sake, because of our biases, or because we think them humorous or interesting which also reflects our own biases.

      Claiming bias, although admittedly I've done it myself on occasion, is a useless exercise. It is meaningless. It does not advance any type of argument. It's merely the lazy man's way of avoiding an argument.

      If you dislike an argument presented here, simply dispute it. It's only logical.

      Claiming bias to my mind is equivalant to whining.

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  20. Politics
    Farmer acquitted of producing milk without license
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    Farmer acquitted of producing milk without license


    It is a sad fact of modern life that seemingly everything is both heavily regulated by the government and politicized. This applies to, yes, even cow’s milk. Witness the case of Wisconsin farmer Vernon Hershberger, who was prosecuted for selling raw milk to willing consumers — in this case friends and neighbors:

    The Wall Street Journal reports:

    Jurors found Vernon Hershberger, a 41-year-old Loganville, Wis., farmer, innocent of producing milk without a license, selling milk and cheese products without a license, and operating a retail establishment without a license. He was found guilty of one count of breaking a holding order issued by the state in June 2010, which barred him from moving any of the food he produced without a license.


    The verdict means Mr. Hershberger can continue to sell his farm’s products to members of the buying club he started, said one of his attorneys, Elizabeth Rich.


    http://washingtonexaminer.com/farmer-acquitted-of-producing-milk-without-license/article/2530615

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  21. California knocked off 19% of its electricity demand with non-large hydro Renewables, yesterday.

    CaISO

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  22. boobie links to a propagandist, and the Israeli complains that Deuce mentions that she is not a journalist but a propagandist.

    Deuce provides the propagandists bio, which does indicate the Zionist lady is not an objective writer.

    Like boobie, she rants and spews hyperbole.

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    1. Unlike Daniel Pipes, she has no objectivity.

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    2. Reference the lie, quot.

      Hitler, quot wrote, was right.

      That it was his desire to rename this blog to celebrate his revelation about Hitler, whom quot now believes was right. He further regaled us of his new found knowledge that his father had been wrong, all along.

      These revelations, he told us, he gained from his participation, here at ".The Libertarian".

      He does not deny that.
      He claims that there was a context to his writing that made it acceptable.

      This being utterly bizarre, since there has nary been a mention of Hitler in anything but a disparaging manner, excepting quot's proclamation, two days after the Patriot Day bombing, in Boston.

      He refuses to clarify, he refuses to bring that post forward.
      He will not present evidence on his own behalf, even in mitigation.

      Why, one must ask, will quot not take a stand?

      Unless he knows he is standing upon quick sand.

      ;-)

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      You made the claim, rat, you should provide the proof. You ardently demand it of others.

      You have already indicated it occurred two days after Patriots Day. Give us the Quote. Give us the Time. And we can check the context.

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    5. Unlike Daniel Pipes, she has no objectivity.

      I know a librarian, and sir, you are no librarian.

      Objectivity is a noun that means a lack of bias, judgment, or prejudice.

      Bias is an inclination to favor one group or view or opinion over alternatives.

      To argue that Pipes is either objective or unbiased is silly. This is not an attack on Pipes but merely stating the facts.

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    6. I must have missed that Hitler citation by WiO. I think it would be interesting to read it in context.

      Got a link Rat?

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    7. He does damn himself with his silence...

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  23. This all started when it became obvious that the future lay in Oil-Powered Ships, and not in Coal.

    It will end when we realize that our very existence doesn't depend on Middleeastern Oil.

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    1. It will be a long time before the ME oil is worthless and therefore the conflicts there will continue to have international ramifications despite Quirks assertion that the conflict in Syria is simply a local one. The Great Powers have been exercising their might in the ME for many a year now and will continue.

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      Once again, Ash, you take it upon yourself to translate what other people are saying and once again you fall short.

      Don't apologize, we expect it of you.

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    3. Quirk, this from just yesterday with respect to the conflict in Syria:





      What is "Occupation"Tue May 28, 12:15:00 PM EDT

      It's always been a international conflict.

      Always.







      QuirkTue May 28, 12:33:00 PM EDT

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      Ridiculous.

      It's merely been a bunch of dicks in the ME duking it out amongst themselves.

      Now elitists in the west insist on joining in.

      http://2164th.blogspot.ca/2013/05/deputy-foreign-minister-sergei-ryabkov.html#comment-form

      Were you mistaken then or are you mistaken now?


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      "... despite Quirks assertion that the conflict in Syria is simply a local one.

      ...........

      Were you mistaken then or are you mistaken now?



      I wasn't mistaken then or now.

      Your's is merely a case of simple minds thinking simple thoughts, unless of course, you consider most of the ME 'local'.

      The conflict in Syria started out locally as did those in Libya and Egypt and others although most of them were influenced many of the same factors, sectarianism, poverty, an economy ravaged by the recession. Over two years, the fight grew into a regional conflict involving troops or surrogate fighters from Qatar, SA, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon,Iraq, Iran, and groups from those nations, the MB, Hezbollah, al Queda, etc., i.e, a bunch of dicks from the ME. Through it all, the West has overtly avoided providing weapons to their chosen side the rebels. Now elitists in the west insist on joining in.

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    5. Yes, I know WiO, those were Quirks words and I should have put more space in between the quote and the link and my comment.

      Quirk, I think you would are pretty naïve to believe that foreign countries have not, for a long time now, offered a helping hand to both Assad and his foes. The 'Great Game' has been playing in the ME for many a year now and the "Arab Spring" did not occur independently of that long history.

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      As with many here, Ash, you ignore the context within which the comment is made and instead merely pull one comment out and run with it.

      To this point in the Syrian war, all arms aid has been coming to either side in the war through regional players, that bunch of dicks I mentioned in the ME. And while there has been speculation that western countries might be providing aid through foreign surrogates, there is no proof of that overt aid yet. Likewise, the attitude of many players in the U.S. especially that of Obama appears to have grown more cautious about providing anything but 'humanitarian' aid due to the possible unintended consequences. Russia, the other big dog on the opposite side had agreed at U.S. urging not to supply the S300 batteries, something WiO had identified as 'game changing'.

      Now to 'promote the peace process' Britain and France have brow beat the EU into withdrawing the ban on weapons. Both Britian and France have used the term 'sophisticated weapons'. In response to this peace initiatives by 'elitists' of the west, Russia has now indicated that its previous agreement to withhold the S300's is now null and void and it will in fact provide them to Syria.

      My initial post dealt with the current civil, now regional, and soon to be international war, the escalation there and the latest threat of the introduction of sophisticated weapons which was initiated by the west.

      From that you infer that I "believe that foreign countries have not, for a long time now, offered a helping hand to both Assad and his foes."

      The original post did not deal with helping hands. It dealt with the introduction of sophisticated weapons, what WiO has called game changers.

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    8. It is real simple Quirk;

      You replied to WiO's simple assertion that is has always been an international conflict with one of your usual arrogant ad hominem "ridiculous".

      It was not a ridiculous assertion on WiO's part but a true one and the "context" of your post does not change that simple fact.

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      If you want to ignore context, Ash, that's up to you. If you can't understand the difference between support and throwing gas on the fire so be it. I've given you two extended posts explaining it. If you can't accept that, that's fine too.

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      If you or WiO wish to ignore the history or the precipitating events leading up to the war as well as the timeline of the war itself, that's fine.

      To say the current Syrian civil war has "always been an international conflict" is
      just wrong.

      Since Syria was taken over by Assad’s father, it has been pretty much a one-party system run under ‘emergency rules’ by a dictator and his military. There have been numerous attempts to overthrow the Assad’s, the most notable being sectarian uprisings by the Sunnis and the Kurds. These uprisings have historically been met and put down by brutal force.

      After Bashar Assad took over in 2000, he began instituting economic reforms while still being forced on occasion to put down demonstrations demanding more democracy. The reforms he instituted were an attempt to turn Syria into a ‘service economy’; however, this tended to benefit only a minority of the country, those with ‘connections’ to the government and the middle class merchants in the cities. The inequality in the country between rich (relatively speaking) and poor was exacerbated.

      In addition, the country, like most others in the ME, was hurt by the world-wide recession that started in 2008. Poverty rates were high throughout the country and by 2011, the poor were being pressed by rising food and commodity prices and drought in the rural areas. Youth unemployment was high and the overall standard of living was dropping. Those most hurt were the majority Sunnis.

      By March, 2011, there were demonstrations starting throughout the country demanding economic and political reforms. These were met with force by the Assad regime. At this point, we merely had demonstrations and the conflict could only be described as local. It continued along this pattern until near the end of 2011 when it morphed into a more traditional civil war between two military bodies.

      In 2012, we saw that more regional players and their surrogates became involved in the actual fighting and the war became an increasingly more sectarian conflict. In mid- to late-2012, international players started getting more directly involved and it is only now that they are talking of upping the ante and adding gas to the fire.

      From Wiki,

      According to the UN, the conflict was becoming "overtly sectarian in nature"

      On 15 July 2012, the International Committee of the Red Cross assessed the Syrian conflict as a "non-international armed conflict" (the ICRC's legal term for civil war), thus applying international humanitarian law under the Geneva Conventions to Syria.

      Likewise, though the EU has dropped the ban on weapons, both the UK and France are saying they have no intentions of sending any at this point. Some have argued they might not be in a position to do so at the moment. Remember, they were running out of ammo in the Libyan war. Also, it’s estimated that although Russia has now said they will actually fulfill their previous arms sale agreement with Syria on the S300’s, it is unlikely that they will be able to do anything for another year or so.

      So no, given the timeline of events, and despite what some say, the current Syrian civil war has not “always been an international conflict” though it appears to be turning into one now.

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  24. Juan Cole is objective.
    He sees the whrled not a he wants it to be, but as it is.

    Unlike quot, boobie and Pamela Geller.

    Like boobie and his hyperbole, boobie still has not backed up his claim that the data points supplied by Daniel Pipes are wrong.

    Pipes is right, boobie is flat wrong.

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    1. It is not Israel I hate, quot.

      It is people begging for aid and assistance, people that do not need it, that I cannot abide...

      I have never had an affinity for middle class beggars.

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    2. I cannot stand people that organize for the purpose of gaining financial subsidies from the Federal government, especially if those financial subsidies are flowing off shore.

      I am all for shipping food to the starving, but object to he US sending dollars and bullets to aggressors and war criminals.

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  25. For six years, boobie has told us that Mr Obama was born in Kenya, his Hawaiian birth certificate a fraud, tha Mr Obama graduated from Columbia University, but was never there.

    For six years he has regaled us with his theories.

    Now, when queried about WHO did this.
    Who smuggled the black baby from Kenya, how did they clear immigration in Hawaii, who hacked the Hawaiian data base and how could Mr Obama graduate from Columbia, without attending?

    Now he fades away, when the answer, provided by the Occam's razor solution does not fit his fantasy.

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  27. boobie did have an answer to the queries of his theories ...

    Bwahahahaha!!!

    After six years of digging for the truth, that's the best he could do.
    The only thought he could muster.

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    1. But, quot, we know that your ability to communicate well, in English, is limited.

      And thus 'tween you and the English Lit major, cannot, together, muster a rational argument.

      Even if you cannot convince me, I do not think that you participate to change my mind. No, I think you do this to convince others, readers at large, that I am wrong.

      I welcome you responses, as they prove my points, time and again.

      Most folk have a misconception about the "size" of the problem. They do not realize that the Israeli portion of Palestine is the size of Phoenix metro area. That the whole of the Levant is smaller than Utah. To make my point, I describe Israel as a city state, as an educational tool, for the under informed reader.



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  28. English Coal Production Peaked in 1913.

    Wiki

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    1. Supporting change was Admiral John Fisher, the First Sea Lord from 1904 to 1910 and friend and advisor to Churchill during his tenure as First Lord of the Admiralty. Fisher, who dominated the Royal Navy in his day, was renowned for many innovations in administration and engineering, including Dreadnought class battleships.
      Fisher described such advantages as the ability to replenish at sea and the smaller amount needed to produce the same amount of energy as coal. He reported that a new Russian battleship burned oil alone and that "at one stroke, oil fuel settles half our manning difficulties! We should require 50% less stokers." Personnel savings were also critical to the Royal Navy, which regarded the shortage of trained sailors as its worst long-term problem.
      Although Fisher was unable to push the senior service over the precipice during his tenure as First Sea Lord, he found Churchill an important ally since their first meeting in 1907. One requirement, Fisher told Churchill, was that the Queen Elizabeth-class battleships be built as a fast division, able to outmaneuver and cross the T of the German fleet. In 1912, Fisher wrote to Churchill, "What you do want is the superswift - all oil - and don't fiddle about armour; it really is so very silly! There is only one defence and that is speed!"
      The war college was asked how much speed a fast division would need to outmaneuver the German fleet. The answer was 25 knots, or at least 4 knots faster than possible at the time. Churchill concluded, "We could not get the power required to drive these ships at 25 knots except by the use of oil fuel." This was enough for him.

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    2. Finding the source
      Queen Elizabeth-class battleships were built to burn oil only. Once this decision was made, Churchill wrote, it followed that the rest of the Royal Navy would turn to oil.
      But building oil-fired ships was only part of the exercise; it was also necessary to secure a supply and solve storage and transport problems. To meet these challenges Churchill established a royal commission. With Fisher as chairman, the commission eventually published three classified reports confirming the benefits of oil. It judged that ample supplies of oil existed but urged that a storage capacity be built in peacetime to ensure sufficiency in time of war.
      The final step was finding a source, and toward that end a delegation went to the Persian Gulf to examine oil fields. Two companies were the likely choice of supply: the powerful Royal Dutch Shell Group and smaller Anglo-Persian Oil Company. After considerable maneuvering, and largely through Churchill's encouragement, the government decided to maintain competition in the oil industry and ensure supplies by investing directly in Anglo-Persian. The government acquired 51% of company stock, placed two directors on its board and negotiated a secret contract to provide the Admiralty with a 20-year supply of oil under attractive terms.

      From Coal to Oil

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    3. Churchill concluded, "We could not get the power required to drive these ships at 25 knots except by the use of oil fuel." This was enough for him.

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    4. It's ALWAYS been "all about the oil."

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    5. Churchill drew the map, so as the lines on the map would fragment the societies and cultures of the Middle East, to easier control them, from the Foreign Office in London.

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    6. Aww, would the pooh bear do that? :)

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    7. Sure, that's exactly what he did.

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  29. Ms Bachmann will not seek reelection

    Another Tea Partiy hostess that could not go the distance.

    Is it the ideology that cause these women (Palin, Bachmann) to drop out of public life or is it a gender issue?

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      Another Tea Partiy hostess that could not go the distance.

      Is it the ideology that cause these women (Palin, Bachmann) to drop out of public life or is it a gender issue?



      I see you've been watching the Apocalypse Now Redux again, rat.

      "I love the smell of misogyny in the morning."

      Could not go the distance? Eight years seems like going the distance to me. In fact, the point she made that eight years in office for any of the muchkins in OZ should be the legal limit is a good one. One of the few good things I can say about her.

      You seem to be implying some sort of equivalence between the reasons Palin and Bachmann retired, difficult in and of itself given the circumstances of each. But then trying to define their equivalence by the false dilemma you offer, ideology vs gender, you offer us nothing but silly.

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    3. Bachmann was through. A congressional district has about 800,000 souls; she won her last election by 4,000 votes. In spite of spending Millions.

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    4. Ms Bachmann, Q, made that run for President.
      She had committed to serving the public until at least 2016.

      She is quitting early.

      There is little to the Tea Partiers, but silliness, Q.

      "Cut the other fella's benefits, but not mine!" is their mantra.

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    5. Mrs Palin, she quit on the people of the state of Alaska, cashed in on her new found celebrity and moved to North Scottsdale.

      Scottdale, Arizona, about the geographic size of the Gaza Strip.
      220,000 is the population of Scottsdale
      1.65 million for the Gaza Strip

      Those people are fucked.
      Mrs Palin, she's doin' fine near Pinnacle Peak.

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    6. The tie that binds the two, both were founding members of Tea Partying media happy faces, and both have since quit.

      Eight years of public service, and out.
      I'm all or it.

      Her compatriots in the House should all follow suit.

      But that was not her position in 2011 & 2012.
      She was set to go the distance for America.
      Now, not so much.

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    7. Both were focal points of the Tea Party movement, and both are out.

      Is that movement dead?

      Or has it morphed into a network social working soup kitchens and aid stations?

      That's what the Tea Party corporations told the IRS was happening, maybe both those girls have become disillusioned, now that social work has to go hand in hand with politicking.

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      I won't even dignify your comments with a response.

      Go back and read your initial comment.

      Ideology or gender? Despite your screed against the Tea party, it does nothing to justify either conclusion.

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    9. It is not suppose to justify either of the options, which are not presented as conclusions, but possibilities.
      Neither option is exclusive of any other possibility, or of no binding tie at all.

      You imply there are other conclusions that could be reached, I do not disagree.

      Guess you do not think either option presented a good one, but offer no other, but that Ms Bachmann is tired.

      I dismiss that conclusion, based upon her desire to serve at least until 2016, as President.

      Must be something else than that she is tired of DC.

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    10. I think it is the ideology, myself.

      Nether could capitalize, politically from their Tea Party affiliation.
      The failure of the Tea Party 'base' to energize during the 2012 election, I think it drove both of the ladies to quit elective politics.

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    11. Those two women were the public face of the Tea Party.

      And both are now going or gone.

      Why?

      Is it because of their gender?
      Asking the question, does not always presume the answer.
      The answer could as easily be 'No' as 'Yes". But I do think they both became the faces of the Tea Party because of gender. Who is the male face of the Tea Party?

      It was Ms Bachmann that responded to Mr Obama's State of the Union address.

      As I said, I think the Tea Party movement, the ideology, has run out of steam.
      They did not vote in 2012.

      Stayed home, by the millions.

      The Tea Party is the Republican Party, the public has seen through the marketing scam and tax avoidance schemes.

      The 'Elephant Bar' becomes ".The Libertarian", while the Republicans are lost in the jungle gym.

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  30. That's why Germany was doomed from the start. There was no way they were going to be able to defend their North Africa Oil Supplies.

    At some point the Tigers were going to run out of diesel.

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    1. It is a long way from Cairo to Tripoli.

      The US Marines would have never made the trek, without the aid of the Islamoids, in Cairo.

      Rommel did not have Muslim backing, in the battles of North Africa, the US Marines surely did.

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    2. The superior fuel that soon replaced coal was of course petroleum (later supplemented by nuclear power). Petroleum had a good run in the 20th century but, according to Navy Secretary Ray Mabus it is falling far short now. He had this to say at the 2011 ARPA-E Energy Summit (do read the whole speech):

      “…Our dependence on fossil fuels creates strategic operational and tactical vulnerabilities for our forces and makes them too susceptible to supply and price shocks caused by instability or natural disasters in volatile areas of the world…we would never allow these regions to build our ships. We would never allow these folks to build our aircraft or our ground vehicles, but we give them a say on whether our ships sail, our aircraft fly or our ground vehicles work.”

      Read more at http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/28/military-biofuel-program-gets-three-new-biorefineries/#MqfxqXo6iSMh1m7K.99

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    3. The US Navy plans to launch an entire biofuel-enabled Great Green Fleet in 2016, complete with fighter jets, helicopters, destroyers, and other ships, despite attempts by certain members of Congress to block it from buying biofuels. The notorious budget sequester hasn’t proven to be much of an obstacle to the military biofuel program, either. In the latest development, the Department of Defense has just nailed down $16 million in matching funds for three companies to build biofuel refineries to the tune of 150 million gallons in capacity by 2016, all using non-edible sourcing including animal fats and other waste from food processors.
      Read more at http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/28/military-biofuel-program-gets-three-new-biorefineries/#MqfxqXo6iSMh1m7K.99

      Come Hell or High Water, The Great Green Fleet Will Sail

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    4. One of the most interesting things, to me, about WWII was the Germans' lack of ability to "Travel." Their breakdown in logistical ability to go "on the road," was, to me, astonishing.

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    5. The Germans were still using horse drawn wagons, as logistical support when they invaded Poland.
      Have read no reports of that in Africa, but it is indicative of the lack of depth to the German military.

      The WWII German Army was 80% Horse Drawn; Business Lessons from History

      Summary: The bulk of the German Army—the dough feet of the normal infantry divisions—moved on shank's mare. The rifle companies' transport consisted of three-horse wagons, on which the troops loaded their packs, as did this outfit on campaign in Russia in the summer of 1941.

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    6. Not many people know that the greatest use of horses in any military conflict in history was by the Germans in WWII: 80% of their entire transport was equestrian. Despite all the propaganda about Blitzkreig, formidable German R&D, industrial design and production, the day to day mechanics of that fighting force involved an average of 1.1 million horses throughout the war. Of the 322 German divisions in the middle of the war - 1943 - only 52 were armored or motorized.



      The great bulk of the German combat strength—the old-type infantry divisions—marched into battle on foot, with their weapons and supply trains propelled almost entirely by four-legged horsepower. The light and mountain divisions had an even greater proportion of animals, and the cavalry divisions were naturally mainly dependent on the horse.

      The allies by comparison enjoyed the strategic advantage of the USA's ability to mass produce motorized vehicles, with low unit cost and rapid quantity production, coupled with relatively easy access to fuel worldwide.

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    7. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/collaboration/the-wwii-german-army-was-80-horse-drawn-business-lessons-from-history/173

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    8. To what extent did the presence of horses have on operations and planning of the German Army?

      The scale of the use of horses may be glimpsed from the following:

      Into Russia: Depending on the weather and distance traveled, each infantry division needed up to 55 tons of feed per day for its horses. There were more than 750,000 horses in the attacking force in June of 1941 and they required 16,350 tons of feed per day.

      The German army causality losses during the 1941-45 period exceeded 6,700,000 horses (26,000 of which were eaten by starving German soldiers during the battle of Stalingrad).

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  31. The difference between Germany and France is nothing when compared to Israel and Arabia.

    “The first thing you notice, coming to Israel from the Arab world, is that you have left the most courteous region of the globe and entered the rudest. The difference is so profound that you're left wondering when the mutation in Semitic blood occurred, as though God parted the Red Sea and said: "Okay, you rude ones, keep wandering toward the Promised Land. The rest of you can stay here and rot in the desert, saying 'welcome, most welcome' and drowning each other in tea until the end of time.”
    ― Tony Horwitz, Baghdad without a Map and Other Misadventures in Arabia

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    1. Now I'll have to find out who Tony Horwitz is, aye

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    2. Horwitz was born Anthony Lander Horwitz in Washington, DC, the son of Norman Harold Horwitz and Elinor Lander Horwitz, a writer of young adult and adult books. Horwitz is an alumnus of Sidwell Friends School, in Washington, DC. He graduated Phi Beta Kappa as a history major from Brown University and got a master's degree at the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.

      He won the 1995 Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting, and 1994 James Aronson Award, for his stories about working conditions in low-wage America published in The Wall Street Journal. He also worked there as a foreign correspondent covering conflicts in Africa, Europe, and the Middle East. He also worked as a staff writer for The New Yorker.

      Horwitz married the Australian writer Geraldine Brooks in France in 1984. She has also won the Pulitzer Prize, for her novel, March. After formerly dividing their time between homes in Waterford, Virginia and Sydney, Australia,[2] they live full time with their sons Nathaniel and Bizu in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts.

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  32. 1) What Bachmann just said was she feels 8 years is enough for anyone to be in the House. That the President is limited 8 years, so people in Congress should be limited to 8 years.

    2) I put up Geller, whom I like a lot, because of the list she provided. Because some here are always down playing muslim violence.

    3) My main concern over the years concerning Obama's eligibility has been that he is not a Natural Born Citizen, as anyone who read my posts would know, because he does not have two citizen parents, and I believe that was the intent of the phrase. Deuce has said he believes Obama was born in Kenya, I am uncertain, but think it is possible for a variety of reasons, but don't think that in itself is the important thing. The important thing to me is the Natural Born Citizen issue. Ash too had a hard time understanding this, and he is much smarter than General Bunk.

    4) I have never said Obama didn't go to Columbia University. Deuce recently put up some picture of a Foreign Student card concerning Obama. He may have registered as a foreign student. That idea makes some sense. We do not know as all his records have been sealed by himself.

    5) I have wondered if the Kenyan is his real father. Some have a theory that the real father is Frank Marshal Davis. He does look more like him than the Kenyan. I do not know who the real father may be.

    Besides, it makes no difference whether it happened or did not happen, it is who sent him that counts, according to General Bunk. This is what General Bunk said a thread or two back.



    Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!


    Here is a statement I fully agree with:


    What is "Occupation"Wed May 29, 08:25:00 AM EDT

    >>"No he finally understood you cant argue with a liar like you. One who will distort, lie and invent words not stated as argument.

    General Bunk, you have earned the title of most likely to lie, distort or invent to try to win a meaningless argument"<<


    I got to go work, so won't be able to defend myself the rest of the day. I have hired Umatilla Jack, one of my rich friends, as General Bunk once called all my friends, landless, homeless (livng with his son in his backyard in camper) Umatilla Jack, and his old pickup, to help me move some stuff.

    He will be here in about an hour, and I need a shower.


    Hold the fort down, and have a great day, WiO!!

    Out.

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    1. I should add as a parting after thought that Deuce, upon seeing the released Birth Certificate, immediately pronounced it a fraud. I know mostly nothing about such things. I have read some about that Birth Certificate that Obama released, and there do seem to be many reasons for thinking it a fraud. So, I conclude, with what I know now, it may be a fraud, but I am uncertain.

      Out, Out.

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    2. The document was provided by the state of Hawaii.
      If it is fraud, how did the state of Hawaii come to possess it?

      Who could have hacked their data base.

      You have said, boobie, that Mr Obama was born in Kenya.
      How was he smuggled to Hawaii?

      How did he pass through customs, immigration, in Hawaii?

      Who could have done that, for Momma Obama?

      You are backing away from declaring Mr Obama's birth certificate a fraud, so ...
      If Mr Obama was born in Kenya, the Hawaiian document would HAVE to be fraudulent.

      Are you backing away from the claim Mr Obama was born in Kenya, now?

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    3. THe document provided was a tampered document. I have no information why or by who, but it was a tampered document. I read some bullshit that the anomalies were created during copying. That was nonsense. It was sloppy photoshop work.

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    4. The copy provided by Team Obama was, according to court testimony by Hawaiian officials, an accurate rendition of the data in the file.

      Whether or not the document had been poorly photoshopped, not really germane to whether the data in the file was fraudulent or not. It may be a separate, unrelated, dot in the birth in Kenya issue.

      If Obama was born in Kenya, then the Hawaiian data base has been corrupted, the document a fraud.
      If Obama was not born in Kenya, the birth certificate would not rise as an issue.

      Who could smuggle a black baby from Kenya to Hawaii, transit immigration clandestinely and insert the false birth data into the Hawaiian data base?

      Does boobie still claim Mr Obama to have been born in Kenya?

      If so, how did baby Obama get to the state of Hawaii?
      Who got him his papers?

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    5. But not at all germane to the issue of where Obama was born.

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  33. According to the head of the Iranian Oil Co., Iran's oil production is falling by 300,000 bbl/day, Annually. At that rate, Iran will be out of the "oil-exporting" business in somewhere between 5 and 10 Years.

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    1. The U.S. Navy isn't taking all this heat over their "green fleet" plans, for nuthin.

      They can't afford to be wrong.

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    2. On a related note:

      In the last 10 years the world’s annual car production went up from 41 million to 63 million cars in 2012, or 52%. Almost 2/3 of this growth came from China.

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    3. A Chinese Company bought Smithfield Foods, today.

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  34. I have spent a limited time in China. I was amused by some Japanese business men who took a cooler to the hotel dining room with their own food brought from Japan.

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  35. The U.S. government won a victory against tax cheats with offshore bank accounts after Swiss officials agreed Wednesday to let banks release information on the overall holdings of their American clients.

    ...

    Jeffrey Neiman, a former assistant U.S. attorney, predicted that Swiss banks would turn over information to help settle cases brought against them...

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  36. On this day in 1953, Edmund Hillary of New Zealand and his sherpa guide, Tenzing Norgay, became the first people to reach the roof of the world, the 29,035-foot summit of the highest mountain in the world, Mount Everest.

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