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Friday, October 07, 2011

Let Me Get This Straight

The sorry excuse for a US President, Barack Hussein Obama, does not want to enforce US law with his sorry-ass Justice Department under soul brother Eric Holder. Alabama is stuck with the bills and the misery involved with dealing with the result of US non-compliance with US immigration law and decides to fill in the void. The lords in Washington will now sue Alabama. Is this country FUBAR or what?







Obama administration asks court to block parts of tough Alabama immigration law

By Bill Mears, CNN Supreme Court Producer
updated 2:07 PM EST, Fri October 7, 2011
Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley signed his state's immigration bill into law in June.
Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley signed his state's immigration bill into law in June.

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • The Justice Department asks for an injunction from an appeals court
  • The state of Alabama will have to respond in the coming days
  • Some parts of the law were already blocked by a federal judge
Washington (CNN) -- The Obama administration has asked a federal appeals court to block a tough new immigration law in Alabama from going into effect, saying it "invites discrimination against many foreign-born citizens and lawfully present aliens."
The emergency motion from the Justice Department was filed Friday, and asks the Atlanta-based 11th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals to quickly issue a temporary injunction, until the larger questions over the measure's constitutionality can be addressed.
A federal judge last month had already temporarily blocked enforcement of some parts of the law known as H.B. 56, while allowing other provisions to go into effect.
Other opponents of the measure -- including state church leaders and the American Civil Liberties Union -- had filed their own separate lawsuits against the state.
At issue is whether H.B. 56 intrudes on the federal government's power over all immigration matters. State officials argue the law would help Alabama and not violate civil rights.
"H.B. 56 creates a panoply of new state offenses that criminalize, among other things, an alien's failure to comply with federal registration requirements that were enacted pursuant to Congress's exclusive power to regulate immigration," said the brief from the federal government.

73 comments:

  1. He said he didn't understand the question. Not the question, "When did you first know about Fast and Furious" but the question "Will you raise your right hand and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?"

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  2. The problem is the illegal immigrants, the law breakers, the felons are nervous.

    The ink had barely dried on the order signed by Judge Sharon Lovelace Blackburn, allowing most of Alabama's anti-illegal immigration law to go into effect, when fear settled into some in the state's Hispanic community.
    "We are in panic mode," said Maria Morales, an illegal immigrant living in Montgomery.

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  3. I don't believe I am getting this straight, Alice.

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  4. Alabama can choose un-convicted felons or convicted felons to pick tomatoes. May as well go for the ones we are already paying for

    Alabama farmers frantically looking for workers to replace those that have fled the state in the wake of its tough new immigration law should just stop by their local prison, according to the head of Alabama’s agriculture department.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65405.html#ixzz1a7uYFsv2

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  5. .

    This reflects the hypocrisy in OZ.

    Under the Patriot Act a person can be put on the 'list'. When it affects there lives, as in being unable to fly, and they try to find out why they are on the list they are told under the law they don't need to be given that info. When they seek legal recourse through the courts, the government says giving out the information would be detrimental to national security. Typically, the courts give the government the benefit of the doubt in these cases.

    So it's perfectly alright for the government to pre-suppose your guilt and punish you even in the absence of proof they are willing to share.

    Yet, in Alabama, even the chance not the fact that you might violate someone's rights is unacceptable.

    The Obama administration has asked a federal appeals court to block a tough new immigration law in Alabama from going into effect, saying it "invites discrimination against many foreign-born citizens and lawfully present aliens."

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  6. Bush was worse, Bush I, was worse, Reagan was worse, Ford was worse, Nixon was worse, Eisenhower was worse, Amen.

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  7. Come on now.

    The Commerce Clause allows the Federal to reign supreme in this situation. If State Law contradicts the Federal, the State loses.

    Feds cracking down on California medical marijuana dispensaries

    Those illegal residents effect wages across the Nation, certainly a part of interstate commerce.

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  8. My! My! Would those be the "Stars and Bars"? Why, that makes you un-American. :-))))

    respect for the rights and property of others

    Thomas J. Jackson

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  9. Worse, or culpable in their own right, doug?

    I'd say culpable in their own right, but if you want to think them worse, well, woe is them.


    ;-)

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  10. At least through 2008.

    C.S.A.
    1861 - 2008

    That's the "cut line".
    RIP

    Dead and buried, the CSA, according to the symbolism of the graphic.

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  11. Killed by the election of Mr Obama, perhaps?

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  13. The Federals of Mr Holders Justice Dept sat and watched as 2,000 weapons walked to the drug cartels, in Mexico.

    The real goal of that, something even I have a hard time finding a viable reason for, let alone understanding why it went on so long.

    That same Justice Department sued Arizona for a similar piece of immigration legislation, to Alabama's.

    The Federals see residency and immigration as a fully Federal jurisdiction, they're correct.

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  14. Section 8, of the US Constitution:


    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, ...


    It is an enumerated power.

    The enforcement of the Rules, to be uniform.

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  15. "The real goal of that, something even I have a hard time finding a viable reason for, let alone understanding why it went on so long."

    Not hard to understand at all when you remember news items about "the majority of weapons in Mexico having come from the USA."

    The Whitehouse even spun a MeMe about how effective a job they were doing in stemming the flow from North to South across the border.

    Clear target was "gun rights"

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  16. Herman Cain Leads Mitt Romney by 20 Points

    Herman Cain holds an astounding 20-point lead over Mitt Romney in a poll of Republican primary voters released Thursday, and he is in a statistical tie with President Obama.

    The Zogby Poll, which was conducted from Oct. 3-5, found that 38 percent of Republicans would vote for Cain, a Georgia businessman, if the primary elections were held today. Mitt Romney had 18 percent support, and Rick Perry and Ron Paul were tied with 12 percent support each.

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    May the Best Man Win!

    Beer is on me,
    Pizza on the house.

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  17. I have never said anything other than I believe the South had the right to secede from the union. Lincoln and Sherman are no heroes to me.

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  18. King George told the colonists, who were legally bound to the union with the crown, that they had no right to secede. The rightness or wrongness on secession is determined by whether you win or lose. King George is not one of my heros either

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  19. The Kingdom of Callaway (now, Callaway Co, Missouri) seceded.

    No one noticed, so, finally, they joined back up - or something. :)

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  20. Shades of Syria?


    DUBAI (Reuters) - A Bahraini teenager died from shotgun pellet wounds after clashes with police on Thursday night, opposition activists said, and the government of the restive Gulf Arab state said it was investigating and would make the results public.

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  21. Texas governor Rick Perry won several standing ovations at a conservative conference in Washington on Friday that marked the start of a fightback in his bid for the Republican presidential nomination.

    Perry needed a good reaction after seeing his poll ratings drop sharply after poor debate performances last month.

    He and the other Republican presidential candidates are speaking at the annual conference of the Family Research Council, which promotes traditional marriage. A straw poll of the candidates is being conducted, with the result due to be published Saturday.

    Members of the audience, interviewed afterwards, said that Perry had done better in his speech than in the fumbled televised debates.

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  22. Breaking new ground, as it were, rufus.

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  23. Maybe the biggest single difference between Japan's lost decades and the situation for us ahead?
    What is size of non govt debt in Japan?

    Maybe we're just plain lost, don't need no stinking decades.

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  24. I thot the Oil Drum gave you hives, Rufus.

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  25. I read pretty much everything, Doug. Some I take; some I throw away. Most, I, at least, consider.

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  26. If I made a living on Wall Street (or, if I were a politician,) those two charts would probably give me Cardiac Arrest.

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  27. And, I'm not even for sure, "Why."

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  28. The drop in private debt, iust a manifestation of those trillions of dollars lost in the real estate market.

    Scary as it establishes a new, not previously seen before, trend line.

    One that indicates private debt will not be the engine that drives the recovery.

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  29. Meanwhile:

    The City of Austin, Texas, has become the largest municipality in the U.S. to power all of its facilities using only renewable energy.

    As of Oct. 1 all of the city’s municipal facilities subscribe to Austin Energy’s GreenChoice renewable energy product.

    In all, the City of Austin has bought about 400 million kilowatt-hours of renewable energy. The City of Houston is the only U.S. municipality to buy more renewable power. However, Houston’s 438 million kWh accounts for just 34 percent of its energy use, according to an Austin Energy release.

    The renewable energy will be produced at a wind farm in West Texas.


    Texas Green

    And, they're just now starting to do Solar.

    It's the 21st Century, chilluns. Don't get left behind.

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  30. It didn't hur that, last winter, when all those coal and gas-fired power plants froze up, the Windmills just kept on a'turnin'.

    Basically, kept all them Texans from freezin' the Texas nuts off. :)

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  31. Kyle is ALREADY suggesting Unilateral Surrender of Nuke Option if PUBs regain Senate!

    Toldja

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  32. The drop in private debt, iust a manifestation of those trillions of dollars lost in the real estate market.

    ...and Trillions more in the Stock Market.

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  33. The Older Republicans know that they are the Stupid Party, and should not be given complete control.

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  34. It gives you a sense of the "Magnitude" of the crisis we're in, though.

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  35. This is the latest in a string of Federal abuses of a state...just another mark against D.C.

    They're adding up.
    *********************
    I listened to Sarah Palin on the Mark Levine show... With all due respect, Deuce is all wet. Ms Palin acquitted herself very nicely. Not nearly so "vacuous" as I was led to believe.

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  36. Deuce said... I have never said anything other than I believe the South had the right to secede from the union. Lincoln and Sherman are no heroes to me.

    Lincoln pointed out that no national government has ever considered imposing a measure detailing its own dissolution, so there was never a "right" to secede, except for Texas, which had a succession clause in their Union Treaty.

    Meanwhile, the US Constitution, Article IV, Section 3, reserves to Congress the power to decide issues about what constitutes the Territory of the United States, or what to do when Charleston opens fire on Old Glory at Fort Sumter:

    The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

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  37. It does my heart good to see those stars and bars. I live in Bama. Have to get tags for my truck today. Gotta show two forms of government issue identification,proof of insurance,and title. Had to show two forms of identification to get electric turned on,too. I’m a natural born American citizen. My family has been in America since the 1600s. If I have to jump through hoops because they have let illegal immigration get out of control,that’s the real crime here,not making someone who is clearly not a natural born citizen prove that they are here legally.Enough persecuting people who belong here to favor their pet projects.

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  38. Sarah, rufus, the girl from Alaska what scratched that "Basketball Jones".

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  39. Liberals see race as determined by political philosophy and not skin color. Their hatred for black conservatives is beyond disturbing.

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  40. I was going to take Fely shopping in downtown Seattle this weekend but OOPS, there's a bunch of "Occupy Seattle" dirtbags down there in sleeping bags on the street, so it looks like we'll have to spend our dollars on the East Side.

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  41. Oooh, yeah, the little Alaskan bimbo that used ta prance around up there on the stage in those red, high-helled, fuck me pumps.

    Ah, she was a dandy; she was.

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  42. SEATTLE (AP) -- Thirty-four Muslim drivers for Hertz claimed they were suspended for praying during work hours...

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  43. She left some broken hearts behind, she did. Some suicidally broken hearts. Shame on her.

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  44. Lincoln pointed out that no national government has ever considered imposing a measure detailing its own dissolution, so there was never a "right" to secede, except for Texas, which had a succession clause in their Union Treaty.

    There is no surprise in those words. Those drawn to power love power. They love it to addiction. Lincoln was a politician first and foremost, probably the brightest thinker, certainly in the top five of all US presidents, but he also had a logical flaw in his character.

    If Lincoln believed there was no right to secede, then all the residents south of the Mason-Dixon line were legal US citizens, combatants and non-combatants alike, entitled to the same rights and protection as those north of the same border. If they did not have those rights, due to the fate of geography, and those non-combatant citizens were not recognized as citizens, then they were not bound by the duties of citizenship and allegiance. Logically, you cannot have it both ways.

    Lincoln had no trouble trampling the rights of Southern civilians, robbing them of their property, freedoms and right to life. He had no trouble allowing a homicidal maniac, Sherman, slaughter US citizens, destroy their property and their livelihood. Had Lincoln prevented the breakup, negotiated a peaceful resolution or loosened the federation, he would have been a great man. He did none of those things.

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  45. The US needs to generate 261,200 jobs per month to return to pre-depression employment by the end of Obama's second term, and we aren't even doing half that.

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  46. Lincoln got 600,000 Americans killed over a debate over the choice of a powerful central federal government or a weak federal and strong state's rights government. The same power and money interests as today, in the northern states during the 1860s loved the financial benefits of strong federalism. The south disagreed.

    "If the Declaration of Independence justifies the secession from the British empire of 3,000,000 of colonists in 1776, we do not see why it would not justify the secession of 5,000,000 of Southerners from the Federal Union in 1861."
    -New York Tribune, December 17, 1860

    Where you see nobility, I see something less.

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  47. Deuce: If Lincoln believed there was no right to secede, then all the residents south of the Mason-Dixon line were legal US citizens, combatants and non-combatants alike, entitled to the same rights and protection as those north of the same border.

    Lincoln, first inaugural speech:

    The Union is much older than the Constitution. It was formed, in fact, by the Articles of Association in 1774. It was matured and continued by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. It was further matured, and the faith of all the then thirteen States expressly plighted and engaged that it should be perpetual, by the Articles of Confederation in 1778. And, finally, in 1787 one of the declared objects for ordaining and establishing the Constitution was "TO FORM A MORE PERFECT UNION."

    But if the destruction of the Union by one or by a part only of the States be lawfully possible, the Union is LESS perfect than before the Constitution, having lost the vital element of perpetuity.

    It follows from these views that no State upon its own mere motion can lawfully get out of the Union; that Resolves and Ordinances to that effect are legally void; and that acts of violence, within any State or States, against the authority of the United States, are insurrectionary or revolutionary, according to circumstances.

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  48. Perry says Mitt's Mormon Faith makes him a cult member.

    Tex "The Mouth" is TOAST.

    Whada Shame.

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  49. Cain vs Obama

    Will be

    Cain vs Unable

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  50. CNN says that it was a "Perry aide" that said it, Dougo.

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  51. To call a cultist a cultist, doug, disqualifies the candidate speaking the truth, for the Presidency?

    It is the tactic you recommended Mr McCain use, against Obama and his Reverend Wright.

    You bemoaned it was not employed, then. Why take issue, now that Mr Perry has trotted out the religion card?

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  52. Mr Perry is playing from your deck, doug.

    You should be celebrating.

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  53. If Muslims constitute a cult, which many here have claimed, the Mormons certainly qualify as one.

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  54. I don't make the rules of etiquette, I just gloat when it turns the cards I like.

    If Mormonism is a cult,
    in it's PRESENT INCARNATION the followers of said cult cannot be compared to the Black Haters of America Cult headed by Wright, Farahkan, and the rest of that African American KKK outfit.

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  55. WTF does Perrier have to do with it T?
    That's just Gay.

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  56. And please don't call me "Dougo"

    Reminds me of that Quirk fellow.

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  57. They got it on a Ford, too Rufus.

    ...I wonder why they didn't use a Government Motors Product?

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  58. I wish they'd set GM free, they have a great lineup.
    Anchored down by the Union Legacy.

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  59. Crowd explodes as Georgia businessman takes Values Voter Summit stage, erupts again as he says "the problem is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue."

    Cain: "We've got some altering and abolishing to do."

    Gets best reception so far of all speakers -- and touts top-tier status.

    Watch it live here.
    Read more: http://thepage.time.com/#ixzz1a9M265eT

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  60. Is Jeffs in Jail where he belongs?

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  61. .

    Everyone has an Opinion

    Here’s a little Occupy Wall Street quiz


    If you look at the results, you’ll see a sort of historically familiar pattern: Democrats sympathizing with the protestors, Republicans railing against them and Michael Bloomberg worrying about his city’s tax base.

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  62. desert rat said... If Muslims constitute a cult, which many here have claimed, the Mormons certainly qualify as one.

    When people get together to talk about new religious movements like Mormonism, too often the word "cult" is tossed around as a pejorative to mean any religious movement they don't like. Never mind that Catholicism has been around for 2,000 years and has over 1 billion adherents, it's called a cult by people whose own particular religion was started in 1984 and might claim a total of 75 adherents. What is sorely lacking is an objective standard by which we can identify something as a cult.

    The crucial moment for any new religious movement is the death of its founder. If the movement was centered around one strong figure merely to allow him to exercise power over the men and get sexual favors from the women, then it most likely will shatter upon that leader's death. If there is at least a core of truth in the movement, it will survive the death of its leader, such as the lynching of Mormon founder Joseph Smith, and perhaps rally around another one, such as Brigham Young, who led an LDS remnant from Missouri to Utah.

    So we can define a cult as any new religious movement whose founder has not died. And by death, we're not talking about those close calls in the operating room where the heart stops for a few moments, we're talking about someone who is whipped to within an inch of His life, nailed to a cross all day, then buried in the ground over the weekend. So right away, Christianity is not a cult because Christ has died.

    Overcomer Ministries in South Carolina, however, is a cult because founder R.G. Stair has not died (going to jail doesn't count). Jehovah Witnesses are not a cult because Charles Taze Russell, who founded the movement in 1877, died long ago. Calvary Chapel is a cult because Pope Chuck Smith has not died, but the Worldwide Church of God is not a cult because Herbert W. Armstrong has died.

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  63. Nancy called T-Partiers Nazis,
    but these folks are just warm and cuddly.
    In her "mind"

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  64. .

    “The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own”

    Feank Zappa



    Always, liked that guy.

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  65. Ayn Randroids are a cult, but Atlas Shrugged is one accurate slab of prophesy, you have to admit.

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  66. Doug: Nancy called T-Partiers Nazis...

    If I had a dollar every time Capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by the government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap.

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  67. How's them protests going? I shoulda bookmarked Mel's link.

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  68. Did I mention that 874,000 People have gone Part Time for Economic reasons in the last two months?

    BLS Data


    That's the biggest number in the whole report. How many more months of that before the economy just rolls over and dies?

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    http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/jwinfo.html

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