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Saturday, July 16, 2011

Obama and Congress Agree To Raise Debt Ceiling to $120 Trillion


Sen. Everett Dirksen on increasing the federal debt (1965)

HAT TIP: Unconfirmed Sources
by NickFun

Complicated graphs and charts prove the country is now just fine.

President Obama and Congress breathed a collective sigh of relief today as Obama signed into law a budget agreement that would raise the federal debt ceiling from it's current $12 trillion to $120 trillion.

"The country's finances are now in excellent shape", an upbeat Obama said in a prepared statement. "We now have plenty of money for education, health care, social security, NPR and funding for the wars".

House Republicans were initially against raising the debt ceiling until Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, reminded congress that without the removal of the debt ceiling congress would have to be shut down and they would be unable to vote themselves pay raises.

The President said he has a plan to have the country fiscally sound by the time the $120 trillion debt limit has been reached, which will probably be in about 10 years.

"We will start slowly paying our bills", Obama stated. "We will find ways to reduce the deficit as time goes on but let's enjoy the economic prosperity we have now found!"

Some people interviewed were skeptical of the new plan. "If I go a hundred bucks in debt I have creditors crawling up my ass!" said Ventura California bartender Melvin Grace. "Why can't I go at least a few thousand into debt and be OK?"

"You do as we say, not as we do", Obama reminded Grace.

110 comments:

  1. I love Jane.

    I cannot tell a lie.

    Welcome back, T!

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  2. Obama: "Tibet is a part of the People's Republic of China and the United States does not support independence for Tibet."

    He knows who butters his bread.

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  3. Funny, for over a year I read about Rev Wright, and how he mirrored Mr Obama's religious persuasion.

    Now, will I have to endure two years of Mrs Bachmann's religious beliefs.

    That her Church endorses the position that the Pope embodies the anti-Christ ...

    Does that make her a Christian and the Pope not?

    Since they both consider themselves Christians?

    Both based upon their readings of the Bible.

    Bachmann was a longtime member of the Salem Evangelical Lutheran Church in Stillwater, Minn., which belongs to the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS), a council of churches founded in 1850 that today comprises about 400,000 people. WELS is the most conservative of the major Lutheran church organizations, known for its strict adherence to the writings of Martin Luther, the German theologian who broke with the Catholic Church and launched the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century. This includes endorsing Luther's statements about the papacy. From the WELS "Doctrinal Statement on the Antichrist":

    " ' Since Scripture teaches that the Antichrist would be revealed and gives the marks by which the Antichrist is to be recognized, and since this prophecy has been clearly fulfilled in the history and development of the Roman Papacy, it is Scripture which reveals that the Papacy is the Antichrist.
    ' ".

    Religion and politics, mix 'em all up and what do you get?

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  4. If the budget crisis has done nothing else, it has exposed the decades-long lie about the solvency of the Social Security trust fund. The trust fund may be backed by the “full faith and credit of the federal government,” as defenders constantly remind us, but if it had real assets the president wouldn’t be talking about seniors missing their checks.

    From my source, at Forbes

    An "Awakening", that's the ticket.

    Fleming v Nestor, it was decided in 1960. Those that are just "Awakening" now, well, hope they're happy, blissful even.

    Ignorance is rampant.
    Bliss, not so much.

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  5. Now why would the Libyan Jewish group recognize the Libyan rebels as the legitimate government of Libya, if the rebels were radical Islamoids?


    Libyan Jewish group recognizes rebels

    ROME – The World Organization of Libyan Jews, representing 200,000 former refugees, most of whom live in Israel, has officially recognized the Benghazi-based rebels – the Libyan National Transitional Council – as Libya’s legitimate government.

    In a letter to Mustafa Abdul Jalil, head of the NTC, the Israeli president of WOLJ, Meir Kahlon, offered his organization’s support and assistance.

    “We feel it is our obligation that Libya become a model state with freedom of thought and religion for all its citizens,” the letter stated, announcing the appointment of Dr. David Gerbi as WOLJ’s “legitimate representative.”

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  6. Egypt, falling in line, as predicted.

    CAIRO — The military council governing Egypt is moving to lay down ground rules for a new constitution that would protect and potentially expand its own authority indefinitely, possibly circumscribing the power of future elected officials.

    The military announced Tuesday that it planned to adopt a “declaration of basic principles” to govern the drafting of a constitution, and liberals here initially welcomed the move as a concession to their demand for a Bill of Rights-style guarantee of civil liberties that would limit the potential repercussions of an Islamist victory at the polls.

    But legal experts enlisted by the military to write the declaration say that it will spell out the armed forces’ role in the civilian government, potentially shielding the defense budget from public or parliamentary scrutiny and protecting the military’s vast economic interests. Proposals under consideration would give the military a broad mandate to intercede in Egyptian politics to protect national unity or the secular character of the state. A top general publicly suggested such a role, according to a report last month in the Egyptian newspaper Al- Masry Al- Youm. The military plans to adopt the document on its own, before any election, referendum or constitution sets up a civilian authority, said Mohamed Nour Farahat, a law professor working on the declaration. That would represent an about-face for a force that, after helping to oust President Hosni Mubarak five months ago, consistently pledged to turn over power to elected officials who would draft a constitution. Though the proposed declaration might protect liberals from an Islamist-dominated constitution, it could also limit democracy by shielding the military from full civilian control.

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  7. ... give the military a broad mandate to intercede in Egyptian politics to protect national unity or the secular character of the state. A top general publicly suggested such a role, according to a report last month in the Egyptian newspaper Al- Masry Al- Youm.

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  8. 58.2% of the U.S. workforce-eligible citizens are employed. You have to go back to July, 1983, to find a smaller number

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  9. Shit, that was a BLS page. I even saved it to my favorites, and now it's "unavailable." That's freaky.

    Anyway, in June of '08 63% of eligible population (those over 16 years of age) were working.

    This June the number was 58.2%

    No wonder the people say we're still in Recession. For all practical purposes, We Are.

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  10. On August 3, according to Powell's presentation, the federal government would be on the hook for $32 billion in committed spending, including $23 billion in Social Security checks, $500 million in federal worker salaries, $1.4 billion owed to Defense Department vendors and $100 million in refunds the IRS owes to businesses. On the same day, the government will take in only $12 billion in revenue, giving the government a $20 billion cash deficit. By August 15, when the federal government is on the hook for a $29 billion interest payment, the cash shortfall will have grown to $74 billion—and possibly more, if interest rates on U.S. debt rises.

    Reality

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  11. I kept waiting for somebody to, finally, give some real numbers.

    As I suspected, they have about a week to make a deal, or the Soc Sec checks don't go out.

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  12. They can send the checks out late, but, they're still going to have to close down most of the government.

    It's not just "cash flow," it's, also, "timing."

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  13. At a closed-door meeting Friday morning, GOP leaders turned to their most trusted budget expert, Rep. Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, to explain to rank-and-file members what many others have come to understand: A fiscal meltdown could occur if Congress fails to raise the debt ceiling.

    House Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio underscored the point to dispel the notion that failure to allow more borrowing is an option.

    "He said if we pass Aug. 2, it would be like 'Star Wars,'" said Rep. Scott DesJarlais, a freshman from Tennessee. "I don't think the people who are railing against raising the debt ceiling fully understand that."


    Star Wars

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  14. President Floppy Ears is down to 42 percent.

    It just ain't workin' out, kids.


    bob

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  15. Bob, we're two weeks away from Depression. Floppy ears is the least of our problems.

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  16. Rufus, I believe I found the cached version of the vanished BLS Post

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  17. Freshman Rep. Steve Womack (R-Ark.) said the presentation about skyrocketing interest rates that could result from downgraded bond ratings was "sobering."

    "It illustrates to us that doing nothing is unacceptable," he said. "I think the conference understands this is a defining moment for us. It's time to put the next election aside."

    At the same time, Republican leaders orchestrated a series of public moves intended to soften the blow for conservatives. They agreed to give the House an opportunity to vote on two top conservative priorities: a so-called cut-cap-and-balance bill, which would order $111 billion in cuts in federal programs for 2012 and impose a cap on future spending, and a constitutional amendment that would require a balanced federal budget.


    I do not understand how these people resolve the dilemma of rising interest rates on a ratings downgrade. Interest rates will go up and the deficit will widen as refunding of existing debt issues becomes more and more expensive.

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  18. Yeah, they had it up in a much simpler form, with graph, but that is gone. hmmm.

    Deuce, if the people want a smaller government they'll just have to elect a President that wants "smaller" government, and a congress that wants a smaller government. The House of Reps, alone, can't get the job done.

    in the meantime, if they don't get something passed they're going to bring on a shitstorm that the brightest among us can't even start to imagine.

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  19. And, before Doug comes screaming through the door, breaking furniture, and shit, let me say: yes, we do have to cut spending some, but there is a right way to get it done, and a Disastrous way to try to get it done.

    And, right now, we're looking dead into disaster.

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  20. US Racial Politics

    "Though 10 percent of the U.S. civilian labor force, African-Americans are 18 percent of U.S. government workers. They are 25 percent of the employees at Treasury and Veterans Affairs, 31 percent of the State Department, 37 percent of Department of Education employees and 38 percent of Housing and Urban Development. They are 42 percent of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp., 55 percent of the employees at the Government Printing Office and 82 percent at the Court Services and Offender Supervision Agency.

    When the Obama administration suggested shutting down Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the mortgage giants whose losses of $150 billion have had to be made up by taxpayers, The Washington Post warned, in a story headlined, “Winding down Fannie and Freddie could put minority careers at risk,” that 44 percent of Fannie employees and 50 percent of Freddie's were persons of color.

    In Washington, D.C., we have also seen the result of government cuts on African-American leaders who had to approve those cuts. When Mayor Adrian Fenty stood behind schools chancellor Michelle Rhee, who fired hundreds of teachers, most of them African-American, the wards east of the Anacostia cut him dead. In 2010, Fenty was thrown out by many of the black voters who elected him.

    Not only are African-Americans over-represented among government employees, these jobs are the backbone of the black middle class. For federal pay and benefits have in recent years far outstripped those of the private sector.

    From 2000 to 2010, the number of federal employees earning more than $150,000 increased tenfold. That number doubled in the first two years alone of the Obama administration. The average pay of federal civil servants in 2009, after benefits were factored in, was $123,000, twice the average pay and benefits of $61,000 in the private sector.

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  21. Do as we say, not as we do

    ATHENS, Greece (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, in Athens on Sunday, voiced strong American support for financially troubled Greece's economic recovery plans and urged the nation to forge ahead with painful reforms.

    In meetings with senior Greek officials, Clinton underscored Washington's backing for their deficit and debt reduction programs that have hit the country hard, even as the Obama administration grapples with a similar issue at home. She acknowledged the reforms were "strong medicine" that are difficult to swallow, but said the United States had complete confidence in them.

    "I am pleased to be here during these challenging times to demonstrate unequivocally the strong support the United States has for Greece," she told a news conference with Greek Foreign Minister Stavros Lambrinidis. "We stand by the people and government of Greece as you put your country back on a path to economic stability and prosperity. We have a lot riding on our relationship together."

    "Friends prove themselves in difficult times and, as we know, Greece is going through a difficult time," Lambrinidis said. "The U.S. has stood by us in a decisive manner."

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  22. Did she do that with a straight face?

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  23. .

    Initially, I thought Hillary was doing a pretty good job as SOS. Over the last year, that opinion has changed.

    Her pronouncements are purely political, hypocritically. cynical, and at times testy. Her performance in the ME has been poor.

    Michelle Obama's last trip to Africa probably helped the US interests there more than Hillary's trips.

    Time for Ns. Clinton to find another job. (Something I think she wouldn't mind.)

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  24. O she's great alright. She said Egypt was politically stable at the very time WiO said they were one food riot away from chaos.

    bob

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  25. Chaos passed, the food riots ended, the status que remained, "o" was wrong as usual.

    All that changed was the figure head, that and a few forced retirements, in the police force.

    Other than that, no change at all.

    Look at the performance, not the rhetoric.

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  26. The radical Islamoids ARE NOT gaining ground, in the Egyptian government.

    That was the crux, of the storyline, as advocated in the Story of "o".

    Did not happen, will not happen.
    Even if there is an election.

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  27. The US proxies were in charge, they still are in charge.

    They will remain in charge.

    US proxies remaining in charge, that is the US objective, most of the time.

    Who those proxies are, sometimes a cause for conversation.

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  28. Or, "Consternation," depending on your political bent. :)

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  29. Anything interesting on the talk shows, today?

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  30. Justa a thought.

    As the magic moment approaches why could not the Fed start selling its bloated portfolio and return capital to the Treasury?

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    Did not happen, will not happen.
    Even if there is an election.


    Once more shooting from the hip rat?

    A little early to be calling what will happen in Egypt. Especially since Amr Moussa is projected to be the front runner in any election this fall.

    He is disliked by the liberal protesters as being too close to the regime of Mubarak which kind of goes with what you are projecting. However, Moussa has been a relentless critic of Israel and can hardly be described as a friend of the US. Even Mubarak didn't like the guy much.

    ,

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  32. You know, Deuce, I wish I wasn't so damned ignorant of how the Fed really works. I'm pretty sure that's not an option, but I'm not positive.

    One thing, the Fed does, from time to time, make payments to the Treasury from their Profits. They could, possibly, make an "advanced" payment, or something of that sort, I think.

    I don't think, though, that it could be large enough to make any kind of a difference, even short-term, though.

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  33. The 3rd is on a Wednesday. There's probably a Bond Auction scheduled for either the 1st, or 2nd. If they can get anything, no matter how goofy, or questionable, legally, passed before then I figure they can go ahead with their, I'm assuming, Auction.

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  34. If they don't have one scheduled for the first of that week, they probably could do some type of "Emergency" Auction. Then, the Fed could step in and give them anything they needed, immediately, even two minutes before the "drop dead" hour (which, might, btw, be tuesday afternoon. Those Direct Deposits are, actually, sent out the night before, and held at the bank until the next morning.

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  35. If they don't have one scheduled for the first of that week, they probably could do some type of "Emergency" Auction.

    Only if they auction physical assets, like land, or gold in Fort Knox. If they auction debt, it will defeat the whole purpose of having a debt ceiling

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  36. I meant: Once they get something passed, they might be able to do an "emergency auction."

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  37. Why hasn't some nutter proposed auctioning off the national forests?

    bob

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  38. desert rat said...
    The radical Islamoids ARE NOT gaining ground, in the Egyptian government.

    That was the crux, of the storyline, as advocated in the Story of "o".

    Did not happen, will not happen.
    Even if there is an election.


    The name is "what is Occupation"

    Rat using the handle "Story of "o" is disgusting.

    Let's be honest. Rat is a self confessed murderer. He lies, distorts and misdirects with anything that pleases him. But most of all Rat is a Jew hating, Israel hating, Zionist hating zealot.

    I have not posted in weeks.....

    I have not slurred the murderous Rat bastard since the LAST time he libeled me...

    One must never listen to the "desert rat" to often as he is nothing but a "cliff claven" of the bar... ALl talk, no knowledge. (unless he googles it word for word and posts it like he actually had an original thought)

    As for Egypt and it's path towards the embrace of the Moslem Brotherhood?

    Egypt and all it's brother revolutionaries are all speeding towards islam and it's Brotherhood adherents.

    Let's all be forthright and admit that the Rat has always supported the Brotherhood....

    From Hamas to Hezbollah and Iran, the Rat has always lifted them up....

    Just like Obama....

    Rat and Obama... two peas in the same pod....

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  39. What was that old christian saying about the devil?

    the one that was about him convincing people he did not exist?

    “The greatest trick the Devil ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

    Well let me edit it to fit my storyline...

    “The greatest trick the Islamists ever played was convincing people that they do not seek domination.

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  40. Rat is what they used to call a "useful idiot"

    From Wikipedia

    In political jargon, the term useful idiot was used to describe Soviet sympathizers in Western countries. The implication is that though the person in question naïvely thinks themselves an ally of the Soviets or other ideologies, they are actually held in contempt by the Soviets, and were being cynically used. The term has often been used by America's political right to disparage the political left in America.

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  41. Excellent, WiO


    Muslin Brotherhood is certainly a threat everywhere.I've wondered how one can actually identify someone as MB. It is easy to say you're not a member.

    bob

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  42. Many Arab groups have used what I call the rotating ball cap theory..

    Just look to the "palestinians"...

    Arafat was an egyptian. born there...

    then he called himsel part of fatah...

    fatah members can be part of the plo....

    the plo has dozens of groups, many with the same members...

    some groups call themselves other names just to confuse the "outsiders"

    The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), The Palestinian Liberation Army (PLA), Fatah, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Black September group, Force 17, Hamas, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade,Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP),
    Palestine Islamic Jihad, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), Popular Resistance Committees (PRC), Fatah el Islam, Palestinian Moslem Brotherhood

    And on and on...

    From Sirhan Sirhan to Palestinians involved in Al Qaeda and Ben Laden?

    They all wear a rotating Islamic ball cap...

    My suggestion? Dont talk to much time trying to tell one islamic fucktard group from another...

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  43. Muslin Brotherhood is certainly a threat everywhere.I've wondered how one can actually identify someone as MB. It is easy to say you're not a member.

    Why do you say that, Bob? After all, if someone mentions that Israel earned $7.3 billion dollars in defense export contracts in 2010, making them one of the top ten arms exporters in the world, and then goes on to say maybe that $3 billion dollars in US military aid to Israel is unnecessary, they are identified as members of the National Socialist party.

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  44. Teresita said...
    Muslin Brotherhood is certainly a threat everywhere.I've wondered how one can actually identify someone as MB. It is easy to say you're not a member.

    Why do you say that, Bob? After all, if someone mentions that Israel earned $7.3 billion dollars in defense export contracts in 2010, making them one of the top ten arms exporters in the world, and then goes on to say maybe that $3 billion dollars in US military aid to Israel is unnecessary, they are identified as members of the National Socialist party.



    Now that is complete bullshit...

    And you know it....

    I thought you left when I said I thought you were really a man... and then? Some fake lesbian was exposed on the internet as a man posing as a lesbian from syria....

    yeah that's the fact....

    What makes you an anti-semite is one standard for Israel and no standards equally applied to anyone else....

    I support the reduction of AID to Israel. I advocate that Israel remove any and all threats to her by any means needed. including vaporizing the Rock of Mecca. But notice I did not call for genocide. But not to fear, you will misdirect and lie and say I do advocate genocide.....

    Your statements on Israel in the past show you to be hostile to that nation, your statements in the past about Judaism show you to have a pattern of hostility to that as well....

    Your cute comment that you made today?

    total bullshit....

    but then again?

    I expect NOTHING less from you....

    BTW if you actually did have cancer? congrats on beating it.. If you lied about that? go fuck yourself

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  45. See. You just joined the mainstream of the bar. No one here gives a fuck what Israel does - just as long as they do it on their own dime.

    The Bar exhibits pretty much the same sentiment toward Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, India, Jordan, Taiwan, bangladesh, Korea, and Salt Lake City, Utah.

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  46. And, mos' 'specially, Moscow fuckin' Ideehoe.

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  47. Miss T, I think the MB is a threat because of their ideology which stands for all the things I'm against and against all the things I'm for and they are or can be quite violent,

    bob

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  48. Rufus said :No one here at the bar gives a fuck about what Israel does----

    No one? I do.

    bob

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  49. You'll have to prove it to me. I've never heard you criticize a single action they've taken.

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  50. But, I'll promise you one thing; if they quit taking our money you'll never hear me say another negative thing about'em.

    Just like I don't criticize Venezuela, Cuba, Costa Rica, Bolivia, Peru, Bonga Bonga, Lithuania, or any one of another 150 countries I know jack-shit about.

    Hell, I don't even bother criticizing Havaii.

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  51. BUT, this Ideehoun inhumanity to wolves, thing, has Got to stop.

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  52. I believe Rat himself has used the term Arc of Instability when referring to the greater middle east.

    It's nice and cool here Rufus just right weather. Over a hundred back there I'd bet and intolerable muggy.


    bob

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  53. Actually, pretty nice. 80'ish. Partly cloudy.

    Need some rain, though. It's been "threatening" for a week, but nothing but an occasional shower at night that wouldn't even settle the dust.

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  54. I'm trying to think of something.....

    I didn't know you were so sensitive about the wolves. We simply disagree about that I guess. I can tell you the majority opinion here is with me on that issue.


    bob

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  55. Some guys took a chance and planted un-irrigated corn down here, and they need a good "soaking" rain real bad.

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  56. :)

    Are you kidding? I could give a shit about you guys hunting wolves.

    :)

    After the first week of the first season those puppies are going to be so far back in the boonies that you'll be lucky to ever see one again.

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  57. ....that the Israelis have done wrong The Liberty comes to mind but I don't know what happened.

    To me the money and the weapons are no biggie. They have kept the peace for a long time. Which probably is changing now. Iran is going nuclear amd nobody seems willing to try and stop them. I wish the Israelis would but I don't believe they have the ability alone.


    bob

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  58. .

    I can tell you the majority opinion here is with me on that issue.

    One assumes you mean among the Muscovites and the Ideehos. To be expected. Also meaningless.

    Polls and majorities are only important in a political sense in telling which way people would vote or how they think and possibly as an indicater of opinion trends. It has nothing to do with right or wrong.

    Ninety-nine pecent of people could say that 2 plus 2 equals 3 and it still would be wrong.

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  59. I gotta run didn't realize it was the day I check my illegal wolf traps. later


    bob

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  60. 59F in Seattle. July frackin' 17th.

    Al Gore call your office, please.

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  61. First family attends church service (wow, that IS news!)

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  62. The Story of "o" is a purveyor of pornography.

    The dehumanizing of the characters.
    That's what he does best.

    The Muslim Brotherhood was formed, in Egypt, before Mr Mubarak was President. It is a major political voice for the disaffected, but not the only voice of the opposition to the ruling elite.

    That ruling elite being the US proxy, in Egypt. Which was and still is the military.

    Even after the radicals assassinated President Sadat, they could not seize power.

    If the government of Egypt takes a tighter rein with Israel, well, that's regional politics. Not a failure of US policies.

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  63. .

    I gotta run didn't realize it was the day I check my illegal wolf traps. later

    His illegal wolf traps consist of elk balls dipped in poison. He's already killed half a dozen squirrels, a covey of crows, two bald eagles, a bear cub, and a couple of the neighbors dogs.

    The hard part is having to go out and kill the elk to make sure he has fresh bait. Kinda tough for a guy his age.

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  64. .

    If the government of Egypt takes a tighter rein with Israel, well, that's regional politics. Not a failure of US policies.

    Assumes the US s a policy in Egypt. Can one argue that going whichever way the wind blows is actually a pollicy? Rather ad hoc at best I would say. Neither Hillary nor Obama has really impressed anyone there over tha last six months.

    (Perhaps with the possible exception of rat.)

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  65. There are radical Muslims committing violence across the Islamic Arc.

    The Islamoids are not attacking military or civilian targets in NATO Europe, not in France, Germany nor England.

    The greatest threat to Jewish children in New York are other New York Jews. Not Muslims.

    Levi Aron?

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    That ruling elite being the US proxy, in Egypt. Which was and still is the military.

    Who's proxy is who?

    Hillary kept saying how stable the Mubarak regime was right up to the pint where the military decided to back the protestors. Then within a day or two, US "policy" changed and all of a sudden we were demanding Mubarak given in to the protestors.

    As I say, who was the proxy, and who was jerking the chain?

    At best, the US looked ineffectual and at worst incompetant.

    I still argue that the US' poor performance in Egypt and with the rest of the Arab Spring movements is the reason we are currently in Libya.

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  67. .

    The Islamoids are not attacking military or civilian targets in NATO Europe, not in France, Germany nor England.

    The greatest threat to Jewish children in New York are other New York Jews. Not Muslims.




    More red herring.

    What has this to do with elections in Egypt?

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  68. I don't have no elk balls Quirk nor poison neither nor even any traps.


    You just made all that stuff up.

    Though the recipe might be a big winner/wolf killer..Used in winter when the bears and cats are sleep.

    Idaho Brain Trust

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  69. .

    I gotta run didn't realize it was the day I check my illegal wolf traps. later


    bob






    You didn't post this dsr?

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  70. Miss T, I remember it was ALWAYS 59 degrees in
    Seattle. :)


    bob

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    The Idaho Brain Trust, the Mensa of the farmer elite.

    Minimum requirement: IQ of 56.

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  72. Exactly, Q, one day the Egyptian Military was backing Mubarak, so did we.

    Then the Egyptian Military decided he had to go, so did we.

    Who led whom to the decision, who instigated the process, not that important in bi-lateral relationships.

    The Egyptian military has been running Egypt, it still does.
    That military used to be focused upon Moscow, now they look to Washington.
    If not for permission, at least to keep US in the loop.

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  73. Anything boob writes, it has to be considered fiction.

    Master of creative writing and literature critic that he is.

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  74. I did post it dsq I did I admit it just failed to put one of thoe little smiley faces to tell the nitwits of the world I wasn't being serious. It was all my mistake.

    It was all my fault and I am sorry I confused you.


    bob

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  75. Be very clear and cautious folks with what you are writing when dsq is around. He has lived in Detroit for far too long and is very easily confused.



    bob

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  76. The threat of Islam, Q the "Clash of Civilizations" is proving to be a piece better suited for the Comedy Channel and Stephen Colbert, than a serious threat.

    Europe is pounding Libyan targets, with nary a retort heard in Europe. Not even a mail bomb, much less an attack on a disco.

    Domestic murderers in the US pose a greater threat to domestic tranquility than do Islamic terrorists, today.

    Criminal migrants that have entered the US illegally pose a greater threat to domestic tranquility than do Islamoid terrorists.

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  77. We've spent ten years and trillions of dollars on improving security from Islamic threats, it seems to have worked.

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  78. boob is more concerned with wolves in the woods than with threats from Islamic terrorists.

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    Densa

    Good to see you haven't lost your sense of humor T.

    It's good to have you back dropping in and posting.

    Best wishes to you as you fight this thing going forward.

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    We've spent ten years and trillions of dollars on improving security from Islamic threats, it seems to have worked.

    Still haven't learned the difference between correlation and causation yet rat?

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    You just made all that stuff up.



    I rest my case.

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  82. Rat has a rare and untreatable pornographic dyslexia and a severe spelling problem. He continually adds an O to my name making it sound as if he is referring to a woman's anatomy, it took him literally years to learn how properly to spell Israel as he kept transposing the a and the e, he still doesn't know who WiO is and refers to him by the name of some porn book of 'O'.

    Does anyone know what to do for this man?

    bob

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    Does anyone know what to do for this man?



    Gee, that's a touphie.

    Looks like you should check with the folks over at the Idaho Brain Trust.

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  84. See folks he has done it agsin adding a second O making it refer to a woman's anatomy.


    And yes I am concerned about terrorism as we all are, though Rat has just said if I read him right it doesn't really exist.

    And yes I am deeply disturbed about the mass slaughter of elk in the Lolo.


    bob

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  85. Say, that's a great idea Quirk. Ill do that very thing and get back to you tomorrow.


    bob

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  86. Say, that's a great idea Quirk. Ill do that very thing and get back to you tomorrow.


    bob

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  87. Say, that's a great idea Quirk. Ill do that very thing and get back to you tomorrow.


    bob

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  88. Say, that's a great idea Quirk. Ill do that very thing and get back to you tomorrow.


    bob

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  89. Say, that's a great idea Quirk. Ill do that very thing and get back to you tomorrow.


    bob

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  90. Say, that's a great idea Quirk. Ill do that very thing and get back to you tomorrow.


    bob

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  91. Say, that's a great idea Quirk. Ill do that very thing and get back to you tomorrow.


    bob

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  92. Say, that's a great idea Quirk. Ill do that very thing and get back to you tomorrow.


    bob

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  93. Say, that's a great idea Quirk. Ill do that very thing and get back to you tomorrow.


    bob

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    And yes I am deeply disturbed about the mass slaughter of elk in the Lolo.

    Maybe they should shorten the hunting season.

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  95. Say, that's a great idea Quirk. Ill do that very thing and get back to you tomorrow.


    bob

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  96. That must set s record for postings It does that as I am using a laptop with no mouse and I have to tap multiple times to make it work


    I'll put the Brain Trust on your case too Quirk With you I se a relatively easy fix


    bob

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  97. That must set s record for postings It does that as I am using a laptop with no mouse and I have to tap multiple times to make it work


    I'll put the Brain Trust on your case too Quirk With you I se a relatively easy fix


    bob

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  98. That must set s record for postings It does that as I am using a laptop with no mouse and I have to tap multiple times to make it work


    I'll put the Brain Trust on your case too Quirk With you I se a relatively easy fix


    bob

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    Gosh, looks like bob is stuttering again.

    Best leave him alone for a while and see if he is able to reboot on his own.

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  100. I am giving up for tonite


    bob

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  101. Women's futbol, Japan beats the US, a day that will live in infamy.

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  102. Remember Nanking!

    Pearl Harbor, too!

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  103. Americans are unimpressed with their political leaders' handling of the debt ceiling crisis, with a new CBS News poll showing a majority disapprove of all the involved parties' conduct, but Republicans in Congress fare the worst, with just 21 percent backing their intransigent resistance to raising taxes.

    President Obama earned the most generous approval ratings for his handling of the weeks-old negotiations, but still more people said they disapproved (48 percent) than approved (43 percent) of what he has done and said.


    So "Big Ears" has double the national approval rating of the Republican Tea Partiers.

    This is cause for celebration, amongst those that Mr Obama has "awakened", amongst US.

    They've been down so long, it looks like up, to them.

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