“We are in a very grim situation, and everybody knows how serious it is. We are not anywhere near a point where everyone can be satisfied on either side.”
There is a concerted and disconcerting effort to delegitimize the state of Israel, and the status of Zionism as a legitimate national movement. The movement picked up steam with the start of the so-called "Second intifada." Palestinian advocacy groups openly stated that their goal was to use "the occupation" as an excuse to demand liquidation of Israel as a Jewish state, using boycotts and divestment initiatives as a front for the real goal.
The slogans and issues of this movement include:
Use of the "apartheid state" slogan to delegitimize Israel. - The "apartheid state" slogan and the claims upon which it is based carry within them the notion that the Jews are not entitled to a separate country, and that the Arabs of Palestine living in the West Bank and Gaza somehow have a legitimate right to demand citizenship and the right to travel, vote, work and live in Israel. The Guardian recently ran a series asking "Is Israel an Apartheid State?" It is the sort of question that implies its own positive answer, like "How often do you beat your wife?" That the question was asked at all is indicative of the extent to which acceptance of Israel as a legitimate state has eroded.
Use of the "Zionism is Racism" slogan. - This vile invention first saw the light of day in 1975, and was revived in the UN Durban conference of NGOs, which was turned into a UN financed racist lynch mob, with the participation and acquiescence of supposedly legitimate NGOs.
Invention of the 'Right of Return' Issue - The Fatah movement invented the notion that Palestinian Arab refugees have a "right of return" to Israel, and that this "right" is anchored in international law. Advocates referred to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Geneva Conventions or UN Resolution 194 as granting Palestinian refugees "Right of Return." In reality, none of these documents grant right of return to refugees. The Declaration of Human Rights is not international law and neither are UN General Assembly resolutions. No law grants repatriation rights to enemy belligerents, and in most conflicts such rights are not exercised. The purpose of the "Right of Return" demand was to bring about the liquidation of the state of Israel. A Fateh document (http://www.fateh.net/e_public/refugees.htm) states frankly:
To us, the refugees issue is the winning card which means the end of the Israeli state.
Secular Democratic State/ One State solution - This impossible chimera was invented by the PLO about 1967 as a euphemistic repackaging of the "Drive the Jews into the Sea" slogan of 1948. As enunciated by Ahmed Shokhairy in the United Nations in May of 1967, the program called for expulsion of all Jews who had arrived in Palestine after 1917. This was soon dressed up in appropriate Marxist "National Liberation Movement" cant. The idea is still alive and gaining advocates in US universities, even though the Hamas has now taken over the Palestinian national movement. The Hamas, of course, do not support a secular state.
Acceptance of the Hamas - Those who expected support for anti-Israel initiatives to decline with the rise of Hamas should note that the NATFHE convention that called for boycott of Israel also called for support of Hamas as the democratically elected government of the Palestinians." Acceptance of Hamas and of their program, which aims to eradicate Israel, is growing.
Linguistic trashing of Zionism - Through the efforts of hundreds of media articles and thousands of Web sites, "Zionism" has become synonymous with evil, and "Zionists" are now considered to be worse than the Devil in many quarters. Popular articles portray Zionism as a racist colonialist movement that intentionally and systematically displaced Palestinian Arabs from their rightful homeland. Not too subtly, "Zionism" has been equated with "Judaism" - leveraging on, and feeding anti-Semitism (see Linguistics of anti-Zionism )
…by Richard Holbrooke, reporting a certain sameness among State Department “experts” who blindsided a president…
"The State Dept. pulled the rug from under me today. The first I know about it is what I read in the newspapers! Isn't that hell? I'm now in the position of a liar and double-crosser. I've never felt so low in my life. . . ." President Harry S. Truman (1948)
"His article also shed light on the deep animosity of the State Department towards Israel that has plagued Israeli governments ever since...
"Beneath the surface lay unspoken but real anti-Semitism on the part of some (but not all) policymakers...
"Truman's decision, although opposed by almost the entire foreign policy establishment, was the right one -- and despite complicated consequences that continue to this day, it is a decision all Americans should recognize and admire.”
Although “cretin” was a word used to either defame or buffer Christians, it loaned itself to the diagnosis of “cretinism”, a disease once prevelant in regions of Switzerland.
"In the Balkans you could identify the three biggest thugs you could put into a room and butt heads. In Afghanistan, there are far more moving parts than that, and I think he found this a real challenge. I understand he said as much to other people. So I don't know if he would have figured out a way of sort of forcing the issue. But Afghanistan is notoriously resistance to forcing," she said.
Afghanistan is at something of a crossroads as the U.S. looks to begin withdrawing or at least redeploying some of its forces next year and increasingly hand over security responsibilities to Afghans. But officials have said the training of those police and soldiers has been slow. In addition, talk has been increasing of a political settlement between President Hamid Karzai and at least some elements of the Taliban.
Teresita Schaffer says Holbrooke will be missed as he was the glue holding together much of the day-to-day mechanics of U.S. Afghan and Pakistani policy.
"I think the biggest impact of the loss of Holbrooke is actually going to be on the way the U.S. government organizes for this enterprise because he was such a dominant presence. He controlled all assignments; he did resource allocation; he did resource mobilization; he pulled the policy process together. And while I'm sure that a lot of that will all go on, there won't be one of these towering figures making it all happen," she said. It is not known when a permanent replacement for the Special Representative post will be named.
"His article also shed light on the deep animosity of the State Department towards Israel that has plagued Israeli governments ever since...
"Beneath the surface lay unspoken but real anti-Semitism on the part of some (but not all) policymakers...
"Truman's decision, although opposed by almost the entire foreign policy establishment, was the right one -- and despite complicated consequences that continue to this day, it is a decision all Americans should recognize and admire.”
Holbrooke Dies at 69; He Exposed State Dept. Anti-Semitism
Your statement would have been correct, allen if it had read
Holbrooke Dies at 69; He Exposed State Dept. Anti-ZIONISM
The US State Department is not anti-Semitic. The Saudi Arabs are the largest contingent of Semites in the entire whirled, and the US State Department is not anti-Saud.
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's Afghanistan war review will conclude the United States has made enough security gains to begin withdrawing troops in July, but the findings will also emphasize lasting troubles, from Afghanistan's ability to serve its people to Pakistani havens for extremists.
... The president plans to stick with his pledge to start drawing home troops next summer after ordering one year ago that 30,000 more troops be sent to Afghanistan to blunt the Taliban's momentum. The goal of coalition forces is to shift control to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014.
A summary of the classified war report is expected to be released Thursday, when Obama will speak about the effort from the White House.
Richard Holbrooke’s Legacy He noted that “every word of [Resolution 242] is significant” and that: Likewise, an analysis of the original meaning of the resolution, as opposed to its inadvertent or intentional misconstructions by certain people, is essential.
Holbrooke recalled Secretary of State Shultz’s 1988 statement that “Israel will never negotiate from, or return to, the lines of partition or to the 1967 borders,” Secretary of State Christopher’s 1997 letter endorsing Israel’s right to “defensible borders,” the April 2004 Bush letter that repeated that commitment, and the unanimous congressional endorsement of the Bush letter. He concluded that the basis for a lasting peace was a correct interpretation of Resolution 242.
Some of the regulars show up on this thread misrepresenting themselves and others. Mr. Halbrooke would and could set them straight. Of course, they are not listening; and they never will.
Oct 20, 2008 ... Costa Rican efforts to fight incoming and national crime could be a model for all ... drug traffickers and other criminals moving into the once peaceful country. ... said that over the past year Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel, ...
Costa Rica was possibly the most illustrative case presented, in heartrending accounts of foreign drug traffickers and other criminals moving into the once peaceful country. But too, part of Costa Rica's strategy and plan to combat the inward blight could – hopefully– become a model for all countries in the hemisphere in the fight against drug cartels, and the violence perpetrated by drug lords and their henchmen.
While today's story tells the same tale. No change.
San Jose (AFP) Dec 13, 2010 Mexico's powerful Sinaloa drug cartel has established bases and storage depots in Costa Rica from which it ships drugs to the United States, the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) representative said here Monday.
Springer's comments coincide with San Jose's request that Congress renew a six-month permit for US Navy ships to use its ports both to rest their crews and as part of a regional anti-drug trafficking effort.
It also comes amid Costa Rica's simmering border dispute with Nicaragua over a stretch of the San Juan river that serves as border between the two countries, in a jungle region local newspapers on Monday said is controlled by drug traffickers.
Costa Rica since 1948 has been constitutionally without a military. Security Minister Jose Maria Tijerino on Monday denied the press reports, but warned Costa Rica has the right to request foreign military assistance to deal with Nicaragua.
"Costa Rica is under attack, so it is fully justified should it seek help from friendly nations," the minister told a press conference.
Costa Rica accuses Nicaragua of occupying a river island and of illegal dredging operations. Managua has rejected an Organization of American States call for it to withdraw its troops from the area and has appealed to the International Court of Justice.
Costa Rican experts said Mexican drug traffickers are extending their tentacles across Central America to take control of all cocaine shipment routes from South America to the United States.
They fear the Sinaloa cartel will bring to Costa Rica all the rivalry and bloodshed of Mexico's drug cartel wars, which have killed more than 28,000 people since 2006 despite a government crackdown with 50,000 troops across the country.
I'll tell you what love is It's fishing Kelly Creek When you know already The pools are empty Fished out And when you have Your ski pole And your fly rod And when you try to fish The fast rocky parts Of the river With not much hope of success That's what love is
Today? The enemies of Israel (and we ALL know who they are) blow themselves up, murder Christians, take over areas of every major city and set up "sharia" areas and MOST people get it...
Those same enemies blew up the World Trade Center, hacked off Daniel Pearl's head, chopped off little Catholic girl's heads in the Philippines, did the Bali bombings, Spain bombings, did Mike Cafe in Tel Aviv..
Yep the enemies of Israel are a plenty..
And Yet Israel continues to thrive, grow and prosper..
And, America has lost NONE of her sons (and daughters) protecting it...
Israel keeps on chugging alone, creating, inventing and solving problems from energy to bio-medical devices...
What do the Israel/Zionist/Jew haters create?
NOTHING...
Nada...
Zip...
So there you have it..
A fake national movement, the "palestinians" created to become a political PAWN for the greater Arab world....
What advancements in bettering the world have they done>?
Let's expand that...
include the entire arab world...
what have they done for us lately?
Ok, now expand it to the ENTIRE Islamic world...
Any breakthru's in medicine? chemistry? biology? physics? nanotech? animal husbandtry?
Maybe Islam and the arabs have a fatal flaw?
could it be????
THE KORAN..
Yep...
Nuke the Black Rock of Mecca, please warn the camel fuckers 1st so that none of them will die...
I'd say that the wordsmiths of Webster's have been flummoxed by German propagandists.
That Semitism is not a synonym for Jewish. It is a language grouping, of which Arabic, as well as Hebrew, is a member.
In linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם, translated as "name", Arabic: ساميّ) was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Akkadian, Amharic, Arabic, Aramaic, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Phoenician, Tigre and Tigrinya among others.
Semites are a much larger grouping than just Hebrew speakers, allen.
Genesis 10:21-31, Shem is described as the father of Aram, Asshur, and Arpachshad: the Biblical ancestors of the Arabs, Aramaeans, Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Sabaeans, and Hebrews, etc., all of whose languages are closely related; the language family containing them was therefore named Semitic by linguists.
There is a price to be paid for revolting behavior, bob.
The residents of Caesarea Maritima and had a good thing going, until the religious zealots got local control of those Roman provinces of Judea, Galilee and Samaria.
an·ti-Sem·i·tism (nt-sm-tzm, nt-) n. 1. Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism. 2. Discrimination against Jews ___American Heritage Dictionary
Webster's Dictionary is the name given to a common type of English language dictionary in the United States. The name is derived from lexicographer Noah Webster and has become a genericized trademark for this type of dictionary.
Although Merriam-Webster dictionaries are descended from the original work of Noah Webster, many other dictionaries bear his name, such as those published by Random House and by John Wiley & Sons.
No, sam, Niah Webster was not Jewish, he was an original Skull & Boner:
Noah Webster was born in West Hartford, Connecticut, to an established Yankee family. His father Noah Sr. (1722–1813) farmed 90 acres (360,000 m2), was justice of the peace and deacon of the local Congregational church, and was captain on the "alarm list" of the local militia. Noah's father was a descendant of Connecticut Governor John Webster; his mother Mercy (née Steele; d. 1794) was a descendant of Governor William Bradford of Plymouth Colony.[1]
In 1774, at the age of 16, he matriculated at Yale College in New Haven, studying with the learned Ezra Stiles, Yale's president.
Anti-Semitism (alternatively spelled antisemitism) is hostility towards Jews (not: Semites - see the Misnomer section further on). Misnomer The term anti-Semitism has always referred to prejudice towards Jews alone, and this has been the only use of this word for more than a century. It does not refer to prejudice to other people who speak semitic languages ___Word IQ.com
anti-Semitism, hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns underway in central Europe at that time. ___Britannica.eb.com
Again, allen, Mr Richard Holbrooke exposed anti-Israeli sentiments in the State Department.
Anti Zionist sentiments.
True enough.
But that does not relate with the anti Judaism definitions you keep posting.
Judaism, even in your definitions of Anti-Semitic behavior is not a synonym for Israel. There is no evidence of anti-Jewish actions. Anti-Israeli, sure, but the two are not the one and the same.
So even by your own definitions, the US State Department was not anti-Semitic, just by being anti-Zionist.
Rat twists words like a 5th grader on crack and employs an even lesser degree of logic...
Because the term "anti-semite" is used EXCLUSIVELY to describe anti-Jewish behavior Rat insists that the term should include all "semitic" people.
It's a false construct.
The Jewish people have always admitted that the Arabs are the offspring of the Handmaiden Hagar and Abraham.
Everyone that knows history understands the Egyptian Hagar is the mother of the arab peoples.
They are semites.. They are also not the of the Line of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, they are the bastard line coming from the help.
Sarah was Abraham's wife. Hagar a servant.
The arabs, my bastard step cousins, are semites, and let me tell you about that SIDE of our family, what a bunch of camel fuckers....
They have not stopped being pricks ONCE in 3200 years....
So, now my bastard cousins, squat on 649/650th of the middle east and we can get no relief..
They even followed us out of Medina in to the broader northern africa and western asia to conquer and loot and pillage. Hell they even went to Vienna and Spain.
They threw us Jews out of our HISTORIC homes and concentrated us into a sliver of our property...
And? WITHIN our borders we have 20% of our population is ARAB...
What bunch of greedy assholes to squat and build towns and cities all over the west bank, historically not even their lands....
I believe that if you look into that mirror and you don't love the person you see or love the person that you are, then how can you love anything or anyone else.
How can you love the sound of the water rippling over the rocks as the river moves? How can you appreciate the little things in life if you can't even appreciate it?
Love has to start somewhere right? It starts when you're born. You feel love through nurture. You harbor that love in your heart and soul as an adult. Then you have it to give.
Love isn't fishing in a river. Love is what you feel deep in your soul when you throw that rod into the river. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant.
But don't tell me I don't know what love is because I love me first. I walk out of my front door everyday comfortable in my skin. I walk with my head held high…most of the time. When I say thank you or excuse me or have a nice day it's not because it's my duty but because I'm kind. When I listen to the jokes of a mentally challenged person in Rite Aid it's because of the love in a person I see every morning I look into that mirror.
As Holbrooke's eulogy tried to point out, before it was hijacked by the "anti-Semitic" diversion, is that UN Resolution 242 does NOT give away territory. No, No, No! The Resolution simply lays the ground rules for negotiating. But Israel cannot negotiate with the Palestinian Entity as long as the Palestinian Entity refuses Israel's right to exist.
Nope, I started with the Holbrooke pieces and "ANTI-SEMITISM". As is your wont, you attempted to change the subject.
I did not and do not contest what I am, Semitic, just as you should not as the member of another Semitic family.
Remember, rat, the yud beginning the name, Ishmael, is the masculine, singular, future tense (He will). The suffix "el" is the all encompassing Semitic word for G-d. Thus, "He [G-d] will..." What?
With your vast knowledge of Semitic etymology, I will leave the conclusion to you. Don't keep us waiting, because the answer will be surprising, Rat ben Ishmael.
I believe that if you look into that mirror and you don't love the person you see or love the person that you are, then how can you love anything or anyone else...
Thanks Mel.
You made it worthwhile scanning through the other eighty posts here to luckily uncover your gem.
[Well at least until you got to that part about Sam. If you want him as a Capricorn I think I will be able to work things out with the Scorpio Union. :) ]
Just who operated on him and where????
ReplyDeleteAnd what were his LAST words?
There is a concerted and disconcerting effort to delegitimize the state of Israel, and the status of Zionism as a legitimate national movement. The movement picked up steam with the start of the so-called "Second intifada." Palestinian advocacy groups openly stated that their goal was to use "the occupation" as an excuse to demand liquidation of Israel as a Jewish state, using boycotts and divestment initiatives as a front for the real goal.
ReplyDeleteThe slogans and issues of this movement include:
Use of the "apartheid state" slogan to delegitimize Israel. - The "apartheid state" slogan and the claims upon which it is based carry within them the notion that the Jews are not entitled to a separate country, and that the Arabs of Palestine living in the West Bank and Gaza somehow have a legitimate right to demand citizenship and the right to travel, vote, work and live in Israel. The Guardian recently ran a series asking "Is Israel an Apartheid State?" It is the sort of question that implies its own positive answer, like "How often do you beat your wife?" That the question was asked at all is indicative of the extent to which acceptance of Israel as a legitimate state has eroded.
Use of the "Zionism is Racism" slogan. - This vile invention first saw the light of day in 1975, and was revived in the UN Durban conference of NGOs, which was turned into a UN financed racist lynch mob, with the participation and acquiescence of supposedly legitimate NGOs.
ReplyDeleteInvention of the 'Right of Return' Issue - The Fatah movement invented the notion that Palestinian Arab refugees have a "right of return" to Israel, and that this "right" is anchored in international law. Advocates referred to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Geneva Conventions or UN Resolution 194 as granting Palestinian refugees "Right of Return." In reality, none of these documents grant right of return to refugees. The Declaration of Human Rights is not international law and neither are UN General Assembly resolutions. No law grants repatriation rights to enemy belligerents, and in most conflicts such rights are not exercised. The purpose of the "Right of Return" demand was to bring about the liquidation of the state of Israel. A Fateh document (http://www.fateh.net/e_public/refugees.htm) states frankly:
To us, the refugees issue is the winning card which means the end of the Israeli state.
Secular Democratic State/ One State solution - This impossible chimera was invented by the PLO about 1967 as a euphemistic repackaging of the "Drive the Jews into the Sea" slogan of 1948. As enunciated by Ahmed Shokhairy in the United Nations in May of 1967, the program called for expulsion of all Jews who had arrived in Palestine after 1917. This was soon dressed up in appropriate Marxist "National Liberation Movement" cant. The idea is still alive and gaining advocates in US universities, even though the Hamas has now taken over the Palestinian national movement. The Hamas, of course, do not support a secular state.
ReplyDeleteAcceptance of the Hamas - Those who expected support for anti-Israel initiatives to decline with the rise of Hamas should note that the NATFHE convention that called for boycott of Israel also called for support of Hamas as the democratically elected government of the Palestinians." Acceptance of Hamas and of their program, which aims to eradicate Israel, is growing.
Linguistic trashing of Zionism - Through the efforts of hundreds of media articles and thousands of Web sites, "Zionism" has become synonymous with evil, and "Zionists" are now considered to be worse than the Devil in many quarters. Popular articles portray Zionism as a racist colonialist movement that intentionally and systematically displaced Palestinian Arabs from their rightful homeland. Not too subtly, "Zionism" has been equated with "Judaism" - leveraging on, and feeding anti-Semitism (see Linguistics of anti-Zionism )
Does this sound familiar?
It should
It's our very own MsT & Rat's playbook...
…by Richard Holbrooke, reporting a certain sameness among State Department “experts” who blindsided a president…
ReplyDelete"The State Dept. pulled the rug from under me today. The first I know about it is what I read in the newspapers! Isn't that hell? I'm now in the position of a liar and double-crosser. I've never felt so low in my life. . . ."
President Harry S. Truman (1948)
Washington's Battle Over Israel's Birth; Richard Holbrooke (2008)
Holbrooke cont
ReplyDelete"His article also shed light on the deep animosity of the State Department towards Israel that has plagued Israeli governments ever since...
"Beneath the surface lay unspoken but real anti-Semitism on the part of some (but not all) policymakers...
"Truman's decision, although opposed by almost the entire foreign policy establishment, was the right one -- and despite complicated consequences that continue to this day, it is a decision all Americans should recognize and admire.”
Holbrooke Dies at 69; He Exposed State Dept. Anti-Semitism
Switzerland considers repealing incest laws
ReplyDeleteAlthough “cretin” was a word used to either defame or buffer Christians, it loaned itself to the diagnosis of “cretinism”, a disease once prevelant in regions of Switzerland.
Is that really the choice we have?
ReplyDeleteJihadists on one side, Incest supporter on the other?
Next we'll have people supporting liberation movements that use suicide bombers, ied's and mass murder of civilians that happen to be Jews....
oh yeah...
we're already there...
Hope all the gays, bi's. lesbos and transgendered folks out there that hate Israel learn to love the sound of the Call to Prayer, 5 times a day...
lol
too fuckin funny...
Melody has matured from taking her clothes off for everybody on the bar to actually thinking about things.
ReplyDeleteOne day she will know love is. :)
I already know what love is. I see it every time I look in the mirror.
ReplyDeleteIt's not my first choice for Christmas cheer but since it seems I put a damper on things…or not. Here's a little dry humor.
ReplyDeleteSanta and his old lady
WiO:It is the sort of question that implies its own positive answer, like "How often do you beat your wife?"
ReplyDeleteI am glad you recognize the Fallacy of Many Questions.
Now get rid of your Dubya-think, your binary good/evil mindset that says, "You're either with me or you are with the terrorists".
That has led you to call for nuking Mecca. Why not? The women and children in that city are not "with you" therefore they must be evil.
The only ones that are equating Zionism to Judaism are the self styled Jews that post here.
ReplyDeleteNot me.
I publicly differentiate between them. They are not conflatable, except by the Zionist propagandists.
They claim there is equivalence, then demand that those who disagree are delegitimized in the debate.
Simple spinning of their own reality.
"In the Balkans you could identify the three biggest thugs you could put into a room and butt heads. In Afghanistan, there are far more moving parts than that, and I think he found this a real challenge. I understand he said as much to other people. So I don't know if he would have figured out a way of sort of forcing the issue. But Afghanistan is notoriously resistance to forcing," she said.
ReplyDeleteAfghanistan is at something of a crossroads as the U.S. looks to begin withdrawing or at least redeploying some of its forces next year and increasingly hand over security responsibilities to Afghans. But officials have said the training of those police and soldiers has been slow. In addition, talk has been increasing of a political settlement between President Hamid Karzai and at least some elements of the Taliban.
Voice of America
ReplyDeleteTeresita Schaffer says Holbrooke will be missed as he was the glue holding together much of the day-to-day mechanics of U.S. Afghan and Pakistani policy.
ReplyDelete"I think the biggest impact of the loss of Holbrooke is actually going to be on the way the U.S. government organizes for this enterprise because he was such a dominant presence. He controlled all assignments; he did resource allocation; he did resource mobilization; he pulled the policy process together. And while I'm sure that a lot of that will all go on, there won't be one of these towering figures making it all happen," she said.
It is not known when a permanent replacement for the Special Representative post will be named.
DR They claim there is equivalence, then demand that those who disagree are delegitimized in the debate.
ReplyDeleteI'm seeing that a lot. Any random passerby reading the EB will learn that:
The only Semites are Jews.
Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism.
Palestinians are not real people.
Nuclear warheads like "Little Boy" only melt rocks, not little girls.
Jews continuously lived in the Levant from 132 to 1881 and spoke Hebrew, which they joyfully taught to the immigrants who came from Europe.
Jonathan Pollard is a hero who is wrongfully imprisoned.
Mordechai Vanunu is worse that Hitler and should be cut into a thousand little pieces and buried alive.
allen said...
ReplyDeleteHolbrooke cont
"His article also shed light on the deep animosity of the State Department towards Israel that has plagued Israeli governments ever since...
"Beneath the surface lay unspoken but real anti-Semitism on the part of some (but not all) policymakers...
"Truman's decision, although opposed by almost the entire foreign policy establishment, was the right one -- and despite complicated consequences that continue to this day, it is a decision all Americans should recognize and admire.”
Holbrooke Dies at 69; He Exposed State Dept. Anti-Semitism
Tue Dec 14, 12:52:00 PM EST
Deuce,
ReplyDeleteWhat's this I hear about the Sinaloa cartel moving into Costa Rica?
"I see it every time I look in the mirror."
ReplyDeleteSnort.
Your statement would have been correct, allen if it had read
ReplyDeleteHolbrooke Dies at 69; He Exposed State Dept. Anti-ZIONISM
The US State Department is not anti-Semitic. The Saudi Arabs are the largest contingent of Semites in the entire whirled, and the US State Department is not anti-Saud.
Not at all.
Equating Israel with Semites and then Semites to Jews, all in the interest of enlarging the field of "victims" of the US State Department.
ReplyDeleteThe Associated Press
ReplyDeleteWASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's Afghanistan war review will conclude the United States has made enough security gains to begin withdrawing troops in July, but the findings will also emphasize lasting troubles, from Afghanistan's ability to serve its people to Pakistani havens for extremists.
... The president plans to stick with his pledge to start drawing home troops next summer after ordering one year ago that 30,000 more troops be sent to Afghanistan to blunt the Taliban's momentum. The goal of coalition forces is to shift control to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014.
A summary of the classified war report is expected to be released Thursday, when Obama will speak about the effort from the White House.
Richard Holbrooke’s Legacy
ReplyDeleteHe noted that “every word of [Resolution 242] is significant” and that:
Likewise, an analysis of the original meaning of the resolution, as opposed to its inadvertent or intentional misconstructions by certain people, is essential.
Holbrooke recalled Secretary of State Shultz’s 1988 statement that “Israel will never negotiate from, or return to, the lines of partition or to the 1967 borders,” Secretary of State Christopher’s 1997 letter endorsing Israel’s right to “defensible borders,” the April 2004 Bush letter that repeated that commitment, and the unanimous congressional endorsement of the Bush letter. He concluded that the basis for a lasting peace was a correct interpretation of Resolution 242.
Some of the regulars show up on this thread misrepresenting themselves and others. Mr. Halbrooke would and could set them straight. Of course, they are not listening; and they never will.
Sorry, oh Melody, oh Melody. It's freezing cold and the world is coming to an end. Makes for a little rancor.
ReplyDeleteNow I have to go look in the mirror.
I trust it will not shatter and fall.
Indeed, that I will still be able to see my reflection.
At moments I've had my doubts.
rat,
ReplyDeleteI understand that to your mind Mr. Holbrooke was incorrect in his assessment of State and, by inference, you.
I understand that neither Mr. Truman nor Mr. Holbrooke could rise to your level of wisdom, knowledge and intellectual firepower.
But, like me, they knew one when they met one.
The date line, sam, dos anos pasada
ReplyDeleteOct 20, 2008 ... Costa Rican efforts to fight incoming and national crime could be a model for all ... drug traffickers and other criminals moving into the once peaceful country. ... said that over the past year Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel, ...
Costa Rica was possibly the most illustrative case presented, in heartrending accounts of foreign drug traffickers and other criminals moving into the once peaceful country. But too, part of Costa Rica's strategy and plan to combat the inward blight could – hopefully– become a model for all countries in the hemisphere in the fight against drug cartels, and the violence perpetrated by drug lords and their henchmen.
Selah, the distorter stated:
ReplyDeleteThat has led you to call for nuking Mecca. Why not? The women and children in that city are not "with you" therefore they must be evil.
No, I said to destroy/nuke the rock.
You keep changing what I said..
Keep trying liar...
While today's story tells the same tale.
ReplyDeleteNo change.
San Jose (AFP) Dec 13, 2010
Mexico's powerful Sinaloa drug cartel has established bases and storage depots in Costa Rica from which it ships drugs to the United States, the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) representative said here Monday.
The "Rock" is surrounded by people.
ReplyDeleteWe have linked to the photos of the glass buildings surrounding the impact area.
To "Nuke" the "Rock" would require nuking those people in the buildings.
The nuking of the "Rock" conflates, directly, to the nuking of the people living around it.
One and the same, to anyone sane.
A little more depth, to the Sinola story
ReplyDeleteSpringer's comments coincide with San Jose's request that Congress renew a six-month permit for US Navy ships to use its ports both to rest their crews and as part of a regional anti-drug trafficking effort.
It also comes amid Costa Rica's simmering border dispute with Nicaragua over a stretch of the San Juan river that serves as border between the two countries, in a jungle region local newspapers on Monday said is controlled by drug traffickers.
Costa Rica since 1948 has been constitutionally without a military. Security Minister Jose Maria Tijerino on Monday denied the press reports, but warned Costa Rica has the right to request foreign military assistance to deal with Nicaragua.
"Costa Rica is under attack, so it is fully justified should it seek help from friendly nations," the minister told a press conference.
Costa Rica accuses Nicaragua of occupying a river island and of illegal dredging operations. Managua has rejected an Organization of American States call for it to withdraw its troops from the area and has appealed to the International Court of Justice.
Costa Rican experts said Mexican drug traffickers are extending their tentacles across Central America to take control of all cocaine shipment routes from South America to the United States.
They fear the Sinaloa cartel will bring to Costa Rica all the rivalry and bloodshed of Mexico's drug cartel wars, which have killed more than 28,000 people since 2006 despite a government crackdown with 50,000 troops across the country.
rat,
ReplyDelete"anti-Semitism" has a definition -
hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group
___Webster
Now, you no doubt believe yourself more knowledgeable than the folk who publish dictionaries of the English language. You are wrong.
As Mr. Holbrooke showed, your grasp of international law is equally flawed.
I'll tell you what love is
ReplyDeleteIt's fishing Kelly Creek
When you know already
The pools are empty
Fished out
And when you have
Your ski pole
And your fly rod
And when you try to fish
The fast rocky parts
Of the river
With not much hope of success
That's what love is
It's the same old old...
ReplyDeleteThe good news?
Israel is doing great.
And guess what?
Today? The enemies of Israel (and we ALL know who they are) blow themselves up, murder Christians, take over areas of every major city and set up "sharia" areas and MOST people get it...
Those same enemies blew up the World Trade Center, hacked off Daniel Pearl's head, chopped off little Catholic girl's heads in the Philippines, did the Bali bombings, Spain bombings, did Mike Cafe in Tel Aviv..
Yep the enemies of Israel are a plenty..
And Yet Israel continues to thrive, grow and prosper..
And, America has lost NONE of her sons (and daughters) protecting it...
Israel keeps on chugging alone, creating, inventing and solving problems from energy to bio-medical devices...
What do the Israel/Zionist/Jew haters create?
NOTHING...
Nada...
Zip...
So there you have it..
A fake national movement, the "palestinians" created to become a political PAWN for the greater Arab world....
What advancements in bettering the world have they done>?
Let's expand that...
include the entire arab world...
what have they done for us lately?
Ok, now expand it to the ENTIRE Islamic world...
Any breakthru's in medicine? chemistry? biology? physics? nanotech? animal husbandtry?
Maybe Islam and the arabs have a fatal flaw?
could it be????
THE KORAN..
Yep...
Nuke the Black Rock of Mecca, please warn the camel fuckers 1st so that none of them will die...
then melt the rock with a nanotech nuke...
I'd say that the wordsmiths of Webster's have been flummoxed by German propagandists.
ReplyDeleteThat Semitism is not a synonym for Jewish. It is a language grouping, of which Arabic, as well as Hebrew, is a member.
In linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם, translated as "name", Arabic: ساميّ) was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Akkadian, Amharic, Arabic, Aramaic, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Phoenician, Tigre and Tigrinya among others.
Semites are a much larger grouping than just Hebrew speakers, allen.
Genesis 10:21-31, Shem is described as the father of Aram, Asshur, and Arpachshad: the Biblical ancestors of the Arabs, Aramaeans, Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Sabaeans, and Hebrews, etc., all of whose languages are closely related; the language family containing them was therefore named Semitic by linguists.
rat,
ReplyDeleteWhen I use quotation marks, that often means I am quoting...sorry if that is confusing...
Unlike you, I rely upon the knowledge of others in areas with which I am unfamiliar.
I already know what love is. I see it every time I look in the mirror
ReplyDeleteThat is not so good.
I always thought love was just the opposite of that.
I find love in fishing the deep pool of despond, rather than looking at myself in a mirror.
You
ReplyDeletehave to watch this, it's too funny, it's a hoot, it's a gas, I haven't laughed this hard in ages. Brought to
you by the friends of Palestine and the Enemies of Israel, Zionism and the Jews....
desert rat said...
ReplyDeleteI'd say that the wordsmiths of Webster's have been flummoxed by German propagandists.
I would say the PDR has something you need badly.
Earth out
Origin of SEMITIC
ReplyDeleteGerman semitisch, from Semit, Semite Semite, probably from New Latin Semita, from Late Latin Sem Shem
First Known Use: 1813
Leaving it to Germans to define English, I think not.
rat, the asshole, thought the Romans treated the Jews good.
ReplyDeleteCHRIST!!!!
When the powers of Merriam are added to Webster's, as it is in their 2010 on-line edition, then Webster's is defining:
ReplyDeleteAs to Semitic, Merriam-Webster says:
Definition of SEMITIC
1: of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic
2: of, relating to, or characteristic of the Semites
3: jewish
© 2010 Merriam-Webster, Incorporated
Gotta dig a little deeper, allen, to find the truth.
From memory:
ReplyDeleteAnne Sullivan was attempting to explain the concept of love to Helen Keller.
Helen Keller turned and raised her face to the sun.
"Is this not love?"
It's as good a way of understanding it as any.
No, not nice, bob, the Romans treated the Jews the same as they treated everyone else.
ReplyDeleteThe Carthaginians, to be sure, were treated worse, by the Romans.
12-y-old girl victim of violence by husband
ReplyDeleteThat Sudanese vid was such a hoot, I just had to share this one from Afghanistan.
By the way, I thought George and Laura were going to work for emancipation. Well, maybe tomorrow.
I think Webster was a Jew, wasn't he?
ReplyDeleteThere is a price to be paid for revolting behavior, bob.
ReplyDeleteThe residents of Caesarea Maritima and had a good thing going, until the religious zealots got local control of those Roman provinces of Judea, Galilee and Samaria.
Anti-Semitism, A term coined in Germany in 1879. “Anti-Semitism means hostility toward Jews.
ReplyDelete___Oxford Dictionary
"With not much hope of success"
ReplyDeleteYou and I, we ought to get together and go bowling.
"Anti-Semitism: the strong dislike or cruel and unfair treatment of Jewish people
ReplyDelete___Cambridge Dictionary
an·ti-Sem·i·tism (nt-sm-tzm, nt-)
ReplyDeleten.
1. Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.
2. Discrimination against Jews
___American Heritage Dictionary
Map
ReplyDeleteanti-Semitism
ReplyDeletean attitude or policy of hatred and hostility toward Jewish people. — anti-Semite, n.
___The Gale Group
Webster's Dictionary is the name given to a common type of English language dictionary in the United States. The name is derived from lexicographer Noah Webster and has become a genericized trademark for this type of dictionary.
ReplyDeleteAlthough Merriam-Webster dictionaries are descended from the original work of Noah Webster, many other dictionaries bear his name, such as those published by Random House and by John Wiley & Sons.
No, sam, Niah Webster was not Jewish, he was an original Skull & Boner:
Noah Webster was born in West Hartford, Connecticut, to an established Yankee family. His father Noah Sr. (1722–1813) farmed 90 acres (360,000 m2), was justice of the peace and deacon of the local Congregational church, and was captain on the "alarm list" of the local militia. Noah's father was a descendant of Connecticut Governor John Webster; his mother Mercy (née Steele; d. 1794) was a descendant of Governor William Bradford of Plymouth Colony.[1]
In 1774, at the age of 16, he matriculated at Yale College in New Haven, studying with the learned Ezra Stiles, Yale's president.
Noun 1. anti-Semitism - the intense dislike for and prejudice against Jewish people
ReplyDelete___Word Net - Princeton University
o melody
ReplyDeleteyou are the only one looking in that mirror
and you are not so beautiful as you think
you are very nice looking...not nearly so good as my first girlfriend...
but very nice....
though your daughter, and little grand daughter are truly beautiful
Listen more to the sound as the river moves.....better than any mirror....
Here I thought that Merriam-Webster was your choice for reference, allen.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea who the Gale Group is, but Merriam-Webster, that's English!
Semitic is a language grouping, #1 on the Merriam-Webster hit parade.
"With not much hope of success"
ReplyDeleteYou and I, we ought to get together and go bowling.
When you want to go?
Call my lawyer for an appointment.
Or, just call me.
Rave away, amigo.
ReplyDeleteWords have meaning.
The Semites of account, those are Arabs,
More mass.
And the US State Department is not anti-Saudi, which means it is not ant-Semite, either.
Besides, it is Israel that the US State Department opposes, not Judaism.
You conflate Israel with the Jewish people, everywhere, and that is a false construct, by any stretch of imagination.
So, again the State Department is anti-ZIONIST, anti-State of Israel, but not anti-Jew.
ReplyDeleteThere is no rational conflation of the two. One is a sovereign country, the other a religion.
Never the twain shall meet, in US policy making.
Anti-Semitism (alternatively spelled antisemitism) is hostility towards Jews (not: Semites - see the Misnomer section further on).
ReplyDeleteMisnomer
The term anti-Semitism has always referred to prejudice towards Jews alone, and this has been the only use of this word for more than a century. It does not refer to prejudice to other people who speak semitic languages
___Word IQ.com
Anti-Semitism is a false construct, developed by a German propagandist.
ReplyDeleteAdopted by the Zionists as tool of victim-hood.
The very base of the concept is false, It aggravates reality.
Thus the propagandists adore the continued exploitation of the imprecise.
Befuddle reality with Orwellian language.
anti-Semitism, hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns underway in central Europe at that time.
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And they create their own self supporting circle of subterfuge to accomplish these educational tasks.
ReplyDeleteIn the arts and universities.
Professional educators and wordsmiths. Elites that read better than you!
rat,
ReplyDeleteYes, words DO have meaning. These meanings are so valuable that we humans have spent enormous sums of money and time enshrining them.
rat said,
ReplyDeleteProfessional educators and wordsmiths. Elites that read better than you!
You wish, cracker.
Again, allen, Mr Richard Holbrooke exposed anti-Israeli sentiments in the State Department.
ReplyDeleteAnti Zionist sentiments.
True enough.
But that does not relate with the anti Judaism definitions you keep posting.
Judaism, even in your definitions of Anti-Semitic behavior is not a synonym for Israel. There is no evidence of anti-Jewish actions.
Anti-Israeli, sure, but the two are not the one and the same.
So even by your own definitions, the US State Department was not anti-Semitic, just by being anti-Zionist.
rat,
ReplyDeleteI own a facsimile of Webster's first dictionary of the "American" language.
Unfortunately for your argument, "anti-semitism" did not become a word until about 50 years later.
It's good to own things, allen.
ReplyDeleteJust cannot own your own truth.
You chose Merriam-Webster and a fine choice it was.
#1 on Semitic, a language grouping.
You and others want to deny that these others, Arabs specifically, are Semites, too.
Plays into the Euro-centric view of the whirled that Zionists tend to have. At least stereotypically.
Still unanswered, yesterday's question:
Do they all look alike?
I will stick with the authoritative sources.
ReplyDeleteAnd, rat, the word in dispute is "ANTI-SEMITIC".
It probably seemed like a good idea at the time.
Rat twists words like a 5th grader on crack and employs an even lesser degree of logic...
ReplyDeleteBecause the term "anti-semite" is used EXCLUSIVELY to describe anti-Jewish behavior Rat insists that the term should include all "semitic" people.
It's a false construct.
The Jewish people have always admitted that the Arabs are the offspring of the Handmaiden Hagar and Abraham.
Everyone that knows history understands the Egyptian Hagar is the mother of the arab peoples.
They are semites.. They are also not the of the Line of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, they are the bastard line coming from the help.
Sarah was Abraham's wife. Hagar a servant.
The arabs, my bastard step cousins, are semites, and let me tell you about that SIDE of our family, what a bunch of camel fuckers....
They have not stopped being pricks ONCE in 3200 years....
So, now my bastard cousins, squat on 649/650th of the middle east and we can get no relief..
They even followed us out of Medina in to the broader northern africa and western asia to conquer and loot and pillage. Hell they even went to Vienna and Spain.
They threw us Jews out of our HISTORIC homes and concentrated us into a sliver of our property...
And? WITHIN our borders we have 20% of our population is ARAB...
What bunch of greedy assholes to squat and build towns and cities all over the west bank, historically not even their lands....
What a bunch of assholes...
but now?
It's the world's problem..
enjoy
Re: do they all look alike
ReplyDeleteGo ahead, tell me you are the third from the right, fifth row
I believe that if you look into that mirror and you don't love the person you see or love the person that you are, then how can you love anything or anyone else.
ReplyDeleteHow can you love the sound of the water rippling over the rocks as the river moves? How can you appreciate the little things in life if you can't even appreciate it?
Love has to start somewhere right? It starts when you're born. You feel love through nurture. You harbor that love in your heart and soul as an adult. Then you have it to give.
Love isn't fishing in a river. Love is what you feel deep in your soul when you throw that rod into the river. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant.
But don't tell me I don't know what love is because I love me first. I walk out of my front door everyday comfortable in my skin. I walk with my head held high…most of the time. When I say thank you or excuse me or have a nice day it's not because it's my duty but because I'm kind. When I listen to the jokes of a mentally challenged person in Rite Aid it's because of the love in a person I see every morning I look into that mirror.
Here
ReplyDeleteis a rare photograph of Rat's grandfather supervising labor..
WiO,
ReplyDeleteAs Holbrooke's eulogy tried to point out, before it was hijacked by the "anti-Semitic" diversion, is that UN Resolution 242 does NOT give away territory. No, No, No! The Resolution simply lays the ground rules for negotiating. But Israel cannot negotiate with the Palestinian Entity as long as the Palestinian Entity refuses Israel's right to exist.
I'm starting with the man in the mirror.
ReplyDeleteNo, allen, the word in dispute is Semitic.
ReplyDeleteThe Anti is constant with both Semitic and Zionist.
Definition of ANTI
1: one that is opposed
anti-
First Known Use: 1788
So Anti-Semitic means one who is opposed to Semites.
What are Semites, but users of a regional language grouping that includes Arabic and Hebrew.
Thus the meaning of Anti-Semite is clear.
Except to Orwellian disciples of spin.
"It aggravates reality."
ReplyDeleteYou may be a dick (and who here isn't?) but goddamn, that is a useful turn of phrase.
In fact, your writing style has changed slightly. It's become more fluid and thoughtful.
I knew you would Sam. Anyone who grooms the way you do is aight in my book. I bet under all that Scorpion is a Capricorn hiding somewhere.
ReplyDeleteWiO,
ReplyDeleteI like this photo of a hero.
SS Hero
another hero
They wouldn't be down for breakfast, nor would they be rounding up Jews
Nope, I started with the Holbrooke pieces and "ANTI-SEMITISM". As is your wont, you attempted to change the subject.
ReplyDeleteI did not and do not contest what I am, Semitic, just as you should not as the member of another Semitic family.
Remember, rat, the yud beginning the name, Ishmael, is the masculine, singular, future tense (He will). The suffix "el" is the all encompassing Semitic word for G-d. Thus, "He [G-d] will..." What?
With your vast knowledge of Semitic etymology, I will leave the conclusion to you. Don't keep us waiting, because the answer will be surprising, Rat ben Ishmael.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that if you look into that mirror and you don't love the person you see or love the person that you are, then how can you love anything or anyone else...
Thanks Mel.
You made it worthwhile scanning through the other eighty posts here to luckily uncover your gem.
[Well at least until you got to that part about Sam. If you want him as a Capricorn I think I will be able to work things out with the Scorpio Union. :) ]
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What the matter Quirk? Is it that I love me more than you love you or is it that you want to be a Cap, too.
ReplyDeleteYou can poke and pry all you want but you'll never know the whole gem.
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ReplyDeleteThis one is for you Mel.
Little Drummer Boy
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ReplyDelete... or is it that you want to be a Cap, too...
I am comfortable in my Scorpioismdom.
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You remembered. ( :
ReplyDeleteNice, but there is nothing better than the original one
I watch that video at least a dozen times in a season. You're lucky I don't post that as my daily Christmas entertainment.
Just curious do you know your moon sign.
ReplyDelete.
ReplyDeleteAnd who says you love you more than I love me?
How would you prove such a thing?
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I don't know. I'm delusional. I just ate two pieces of pizza and half a bag of chips.
ReplyDeleteThe big bag and the fuckers charged me tax on it. Since when do you pay tax on chips.
ReplyDeleteCapricorns are generally pessimistic, aren't they?
ReplyDeleteI would never qualify.
Definitely Scorpio.
Great Bowie clip, Mel. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI posted it a couple of weeks ago. Quirk either pays attention or it was a coincidence.
ReplyDeleteIt's my all time favorite.
I'm hanging...
ReplyDelete.
ReplyDelete...half a bag of chips...
A small bag?
If so, how can you eat just half a bag of chips?
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ReplyDeleteI pay attention when it suits me.
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ReplyDeleteJust checked out my moon sign on the Magic Google Ball.
Virgo.
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ReplyDeleteSarah Siverman on Conan
Sarah Gets Serious About Feminism, Desease Treatment, and Being Jewish
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thank you .for your nice gesture.
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