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Tuesday, August 24, 2010

HOROSCOPE – VIRGO (August 23 – September 22)





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HOROSCOPE – VIRGO (August 23 – September 22)

[Lawyer’s Exception Statement: If you are a Virgo please remember that the following paper titled HOROSCOPE – VIRGO reflects an amalgam of general tendencies and characteristics of a large sample of Virgos. It does not reflect the tendencies and characteristics of any particular Virgo attending the EB. We, the lawyers and management, firmly believe that any Virgos at the EB likely have all the positive characteristics of the Virgo while demonstrating few if any of the negative traits. We would change the names to protect the innocent but we are unaware of any innocents at the EB. However, if you would like to sign an affidavit stating that you are in fact an innocent, we will be glad to change your name.

All that being said, talk-show host Nancy Grace, a lawyer and author, states that if you are a Virgo and born between the offending dates of August 23 and September 22 then you are as guilty as sin and should be locked away like the rancid cur you are. (Note: Nancy Grace’s opinions are hers alone and do not reflect the opinions of the management of Souls-R-Us, L.L.P.C. nor its affiliates.)]


Origin – Virgo is the sixth sign of the zodiac. The sign has always been represented by a young woman, a maiden, imbued with purity.

Controlling Body – Mercury

Lucky Day – Wednesday

Color – Blue

Element – Earth

Symbol – Maiden

Lucky Number - Five

Compatible Signs – Capricorn, Pisces, Taurus

Incompatible Signs – Aquarius, Libra, Aries

Famous Virgos – Margaret Trudeau, Sean Connery, Buddy Holly, Gag Reflex, Leo Tolstoy, Goethe, Oliver Stone, Lyndon Johnson, Trish, Greta Garbo, Agatha Cristie, John McCain, Yassar Arafat, Michael Jackson, D. H. Lawrence, William Howard Taft, Walt Whitman, Samuel Johnson

Virgo Quote (Male) – Craig Kilborn: “A telephone survey says that 51 percent of college students drink until they pass out at least once a month. The other 49 percent didn't answer the phone.

Virgo Quote (Male) – Johann von Goethe: "The intelligent man finds almost everything ridiculous, the sensible man hardly anything."

Virgo Quote (Male) – Charlie Sheen: “I fell for you like a blind roofer.”

Virgo Quote (Male) – Damon Hill: “Winning is everything. The only ones who remember you when you come second are your wife and your dog.”

Virgo Quote (Female) – Trish: “I didn’t say it was going to be easy.” (Commenting on Whit’s observation that given current demographics it would be difficult to achieve her aim of reclaiming the world beer drinking title from the Chinese.)

Virgo Quote (Female) – Liz Carpenter: “I am 56 and still a Virgo.”

Virgo Quote (Female) – Barbara Ehrenreich: “Natural selection, as it has operated in human history, favours not only the clever but the murderous.”


Virgo Attributes – Methodical, intelligent, meticulous, dependable, industrious, practical, efficient, thorough, observant, analytical, satirical, studious, reliable, down-to-earth, skeptical, over-critical, picky, petty, worry wart, shy, reserved, self-centered, and melancholy


The typical Virgo is not easy to get to know. Intelligent and observant, they value their personal space and are jealous with their time. To some, the Virgo appears aloof and mysterious. The Virgo is kind in a cool and calculating way. However, they are willing to invest a lot of time taking care of those they love. They are sensitive to the emotional needs of others and are willing to listen and offer advice. They usually have good taste, subtlety, and wit. They value knowledge and are proud of their accomplishments.

On the other hand, while capable and efficient, their discrimination can manifest itself on the negative side. They are the critics of the Zodiac. They can be harsh and cynical, their rebukes sarcastic, cutting, and vicious. This shrewishness can turn off some of the other Zodiacal signs. While opinionated, Virgos typically reserve their harshest criticism for themselves.

Virgos are usually very organized. They like to categorize, chart, classify, organize, label. They are also the obsessive-compulsives of the Zodiac. Don’t go changing things around in their neat little color-coordinated closets or in their ordered and articulated minds or they could just freak out taking collateral victims with them.

Virgo women like to chat and gossip; some can talk endlessly. They can also be deeply emotional and sensitive, and upon hearing something that upsets them, sometimes will slip away unseen to have a quick cry before returning to the battle with a scathing rebuke. To the Virgo, to err is human to forgive unusual. They love you for your faults and failings primarily because these can someday be used against you. Love for the Virgo consists in telling you why you are sorry.

The Virgo is not a gambler. They like security. Usually in choosing a career they will choose a job with a steady paycheck as opposed to one that carries risk. They prefer to be the second-fiddle, the power behind the throne. Cardinal Richelieu was a Virgo. Because of this risk aversion, they sometimes end up in jobs where they feel stifled and bored. Virgo’s quiet demeanor, specialized knowledge, and inclination to serve people suggest appropriate jobs are in medicine, writing, the military, and teaching. They also do well as geishas, masseuses, and greeters at Walmart.


Relationships are usually difficult for Virgos. They tend to be shy, reserved, and self-contained. It is true that they are kind and sensitive and willing to attend to the wants and need of others: however, their cool analytical veneers and self-control can be infuriating to passionate types. The male is usually no Don Juan. When presented with a romantic situation, he is likely to start by carefully removing and hanging up his coat and then carefully folding his tie before getting down to business. He eschews public displays of affection. He is likely to have a sex manual with diagrams and instructions regarding the erogenous zones. The female also tends to thinks too much. Though sentimentally romantic deep down, she is too self-conscious. The Virgo would likely be better off skipping the analysis and instead concentrating on the sensual and emotional. They usually wait for someone to say “let’s get down” before actually getting down.


Appropriate Virgo Pets – Virgo pets should reflect the personality of their owner. They should be somewhat edgy, perhaps a little irritable at times, neat and clean. Not particularly affectionate, they dislike sharing toys or food with anyone. Generally they ignore other animals in the household. Typically appropriate pets for the Virgo could be sea urchins, certain types of jellyfish, and clams. Non-aquatic pets might include the porcupine.

[Caution: When purchasing your next pet, make sure it is one your friends like as it will likely outlive you by some nine years. This caution applies only to Virgos living in Marist County, Wisconsin.]


-Your 2010 Horoscope (Virgo)–

This year is expected to offer a mixed bag for the typical Virgo.

• Within a few months your whole world will change. Your days will grow darker. Things will take on a distinct chill. It will be more difficult getting around. This darker period should only last three or four months.

• A homeless person will approach you and ask for any change you can spare. You will immediately start to quiz him on how he will spend the money. You will then begin to share your views on self-reliance and the need to show initiative. After 15 minutes, the homeless person will sigh weekly, turn, and leave. You will continue to follow him for a short distance explaining that he needs to dress better.

• On September 3, there will be a rare conjunction of heavenly bodies in the constellation of Virgo as Mars, Venus, and Jupiter all approach each other in a dazzling celestial display. Only one person will recognize the significance of this event and the fact that this is a sign and a remembrance of an extraordinary birth that took place approximately forty odd years ago. Unfortunately, that one person will be a dyslexic AP reporter traumatized by the recent elections in Colombia whose story explaining the celestial conjunction will be so marred by typos, and spelling and grammatical errors as to render the significance of the event meaningless to all who read the story. Some people will call this poetic justice others will call it Karma.

• On September 13, you will return home after a romantic dinner featuring wine and dancing. Your significant other will then turn down the lights, turn up the fire, and put on some Barry White music. She will sit down beside you, offer you a drink, lean close letting her perfume waft over you, and seductively whisper in your ear, “Let’s go to bed.” You will reply, “Why?”

• In February, you will be reported missing in Afghanistan which will show just how far you are willing to go to avoid Doug.


Next Month: Libra (monthly personalized horoscopes available by request)


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291 comments:

  1. The observation, concerning Dr Hiss, was aimed at Dr Hiss and the Israeli Government that blessed his actions.Never were any other doctors, in Israel or the United States mentioned. Not by name or association.

    That you could draw such a conclusion, that some how the comments directed at Dr Hiss or the Israeli Government had any reference to any doctor in the United States, really fuckin' bizarre.

    On your part.

    All that was discussed, the theft of body part by Dr Hiss and the Israeli Governments' lack of criminal prosecution because of those thefts.

    The fact that Dr Hiss was later re-elevated to Director of the facility, confirmation of the Israeli's barbarity, as regards respect for the living relatives of those deceased that were medically mutilated.

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  2. That you took the time to inform us of the fact that 19% of US doctors are Jewish, relevant only in connection to their impact upon the American Holocaust.

    That hallmark of Western Civilization, the murder of over 50 million Americans, over the course of 33 years.

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  3. No Muslim has come close to that score, not here, there, or anywhere.

    Is bob of Idaho right, is the "West" suicidal?

    If so, why demand that the Muslims follow US to hell?

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  4. Free trial readings available--find your future with a free fish fin reading--satisfaction guaranteed--don't be taken in by phoney practitioners of the old thoroughly debunked star reading art--contact bob@ and etc....

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  5. Is bob of Idaho right, is the "West" suicidal?

    Come on rat. Get serious.

    Bob reads the fins of fish for god's sake.


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  6. Excellent insights, Quirk...First Rate Job. And the price is right, I might add....

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  7. Absolutely Fabulous, Quirk, I blew wine thru my nose reading it. My girlfriend walked by and said, "who's Gag Reflex?"

    Anyway, thanks!

    BTW, can we give this whole Jew thing a rest for a couple of days?
    Jiminy Christmas....

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  8. I say, some of these 'star readers' don't know the difference between a Supernova and a Solar Maximum, the Horsehead Nebula or Neptune, a Blackhole or the van Allen Belt.

    You can find our services at a franchise near you--look under 4-F in the Yellow Pages--Fantastic Fish Fin Futures.

    bob

    Remember--Special targeted dorsal, fat, caudal, anal, pelvic, and pectoral fin readings, too.

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  9. 6 more years of Grandpa RINO...CNN calls AZ for McCain.

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  10. How do you respond to these stories that have been circulating ar the Moscow Fish Mart about how you have been using defective fins for years?

    DO YOU DENY THEM?


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  11. Isn't Bob himself a defective Finn?

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  12. PHOENIX - The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office of Homeland Security Investigations led multiple agencies on a six-day manhunt that netted 102 arrests.

    All of the gang members and gang associates face criminal charges or deportation.

    They also have ties to 19 different street gangs in Arizona.

    Operation Community Shield is an ongoing initiative by ICE-HIS’s National Gang Unit.

    OCS uses resources in a coordinated strategy to attack and dismantle criminal street gangs across the country.

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  13. Of the 102 recently arrested in Arizona, 29 of them face state charges of gang-related violations.

    Three of them face prosecution for felony re-entry after deportation, which can carry a penalty of 20 years in prison.

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  14. Twenty-six of the gang members and gang associates arrested during the operation are U.S. citizens. The other 76 are foreign nationals. Officials say 58 of the foreign nationals are from Mexico, but the group also includes citizens from Guatemala and Honduras.

    Those foreign nationals who are not being prosecuted on criminal charges are being processed for removal from the United States.

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  15. Last week, Joye and another scientist published a memo saying that three-quarters of the oil spilled into the Gulf -- about 3 million barrels -- remains in the ecosystem. It's out of sight and perhaps out of mind, she says, but it's not gone.

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  16. (CNN) -- Wanted by the Drug Enforcement Administration: Ebonics translators.

    It might sound like a punch line, as "Ebonics" -- the common name for what linguists call African-American English -- has long been the butt of jokes, as well as the subject of controversy.

    But the agency is serious about needing nine people to translate conversations picked up on wiretaps during investigations, Special Agent Michael Sanders said Tuesday. A solicitation was sent to contractors as part of a request to companies to provide hundreds of translators in 114 languages.

    "DEA's position is, it's a language form we have a need for," Sanders said. "I think it's a language form that DEA recognizes a need to have someone versed in to conduct investigations."

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  17. McCain has never lost an election in his home state and has rarely faced serious opposition since he succeeded Barry Goldwater in the Senate in 1986.

    In an e-mail to reporters Tuesday morning, McCain spokesman Brian Rogers recalled a half-dozen ways the campaign exploited Hayworth missteps to knock him to the ground, including the infomercial and his support of the birther movement questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship.

    Rogers closed with this: "The Democrats will choose their nominee today. Who wants to be next?"


    Defeats Challenger

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  18. Just when you think your problems are overwhelming,
    this is home seen from 114 million miles. Seems kind of mote-like.

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  19. Jeez!

    You know nothing about the authentic fin practioners, an ancient Nordic art form, as is to be, alas, expected.

    Not only fraudulent, but misinformed, or worse, ignorant too.

    Of course, I only use my own fresh self caught fins. Why do you think I'm always fishing, for the fun of it?

    Moscow Fish Market, my ass, we don't even have one. Once in a blue moon someone comes over from the coast with salmon and crab in a big van. Other than that it's Alberson's, or the Nez Perce Tribe during the season. Otherwise, you're on your own, like me.

    ahhhhh, Cipro and sleeping pill time...g,nite

    P.S. One Gordon Higheagle, I know his dad a little, an elder, hard worker for the tribe, got indicted for some degree of murder, for running his boat over another boat in the Clearwater, one dead two injured, alcohol test not back yet, but it will be positive. Kinda sad. They get a fast boat, and the alcohol doesn't mix well with it.

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  20. You know nothing about the authentic fin practioners, an ancient Nordic art form, as is to be, alas, expected.

    Not only fraudulent, but misinformed, or worse, ignorant too.


    Would this last reference me or the Nordic Fish Fin Readers?

    Of course, I only use my own fresh self caught fins. Why do you think I'm always fishing, for the fun of it?...


    Very well, Bob in Idaho, so you deny using defective fish fins. Your defense is that you use fresh fins from fish that you caught.

    Really?

    Wasn't it just a few short weeks ago that you told all present at the bar that you only do "catch and realease". Sir, were you lying then, lying now, or are you just into mutilating fish and setting them free to suffer as they drift aimlessly in circles in the middle of the trout streem?

    You, sir, are a cur.


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  21. I dated that girl in College. She was a "Stevie." Lord.

    Uh, . . . . I'll be back, later.

    Great job, Q.

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  22. ...stream...



    Sorry, Trish


    (I intend to leave a blank Word sheet open at all times so I don't forget. Honest.)


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  23. You're good, Quirk. Real good. But it's hard to compete with these comedians.

    Tourism chiefs in Serbia are hoping their annual testicle cooking competition will do for the region what whisky did for Scotland.

    The Testicle Cooking World Championship in Ozrem takes place for the seventh time this year and is open to cooks from all over the world.

    Dishes, said to have aphrodisiac qualities, are made from the testicles of animals including bull, wild boar, horse, shark, ostrich, kangaroo, donkey, turkey, goat, reindeer and elk.

    Organisers admit they rarely get chefs
    (or testicles) from abroad (Heh, heh. Quirk will get it) but they are hoping that the festival will start to attract international visitors to sample the food.

    Festival organiser Ivo Mokovich said: "The importance of a recognisable brand to sell a region cannot be underestimated - look at how many people go to Scotland because of the whiskey or how many people know Switzerland because of their cheese and chocolate.

    "We are now hoping that the many famous and varied testicle dishes that we have created in the region will become world-famous and attract people who appreciate good food from all over the world."

    The testicle cooking contest starts on 27 August with elimination heats leading through to the final three days later on 29 August.

    Mr Mokovich added: "This year the theme is let your imagination run free - we have allowed the entrants to submit dishes using any kind of testicles that they want - large or small - and we're looking forward to seeing what the expert Serbian testicle cooks come up with."

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  24. I was on vacation in Boise then, thou villainous doghearted hedge-pig! You think I got a freezer truck or something? Here I'm just miles from the river, and the freezer is full.

    Thou tottering toad-spotted bum-bailey!

    Thou wouldst eat thy dead vomit up,
    and howl'st to find it.

    Now, back to dormitorio. Having settled that, to my satisfaction.

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  25. I wish them luck Vicktor but I don't see it taking off; at least, not to the extent they are hoping for.

    Having been to a few of these festivals I've noticed one thing.

    The ostrich testicles are eaten up almost immediately. After that the party dies and people drift away.



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  26. Here I'm just miles from the river, and the freezer is full.


    As I thought. Using frozen fish fins.

    You, sir, are a fraud and a con man.

    The authorities will hear about this.


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  27. Fresh frozen fins, never been cooked, it's the industry standard, always has been. It's a Nordic art.

    Now,goodnight!

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  28. And what about these stories that you are not a Swede but a Finn?


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  29. Fresh frozen fins, never been cooked, it's the industry standard, always has been. It's a Nordic art.

    Good lord. DNA degraded fish fins an industry standard.

    Unbelievable.


    At Souls-R-Us, our plan is to fly in fish daily. And we will be using 100% American labor.

    We will soon be setting up franchises in pet stores across the nation.

    BUY AMERICAN!
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  30. "The ostrich testicles are eaten up almost immediately. After that the party dies and people drift away."

    Yes, it's a pity. It was like that at my last birthday party, too.

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  31. Bob, DON'T go trout fishing/testicle dipping in Serbia.

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  32. And, when you're out there on the Moscow River, and you see an Eastern European-looking gentleman with a cleaver in his hand? Leave by way of the "far" shore.

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  33. I hear "frozen" Swedish meatballs are a big thing in Ozrem this year.

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  34. "Organisers admit they rarely get chefs (or testicles) from abroad (Heh, heh. Quirk will get it)"

    Tesicles from abroad.

    Testicles. from. a. broad. Get it?

    You guys are hopeless.

    :)

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  35. Boy, you think this doesn't have "Potential Disaster" written all over it?

    Trucks carrying United States military vehicles under blue tarpaulins were caught in a 30-mile traffic jam on the main highway from the southern port of Karachi to the capital, Islamabad, at the weekend where floodwaters had broken the road and reduced traffic to single file.

    Those trucks were far from their usual routes to Afghanistan through western Pakistan, which have been completely cut off because of the floods. Supply trucks are now having to take the much longer route through the center of the country to Islamabad, and then on to Peshawar and the Afghan border. Roads to Peshawar in the northwest have also been cut off.

    The bulk of supplies for the United States military, including fuel for its bases across southern Afghanistan, pass through Pakistan from Karachi along two routes to Afghanistan, both of which have been cut off by the floods, Pakistani officials here said.


    Playing at War

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  36. China Warns its Neighbors Regarding Joint Military Maneuvers with the US

    "The Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson, Jiang Yu, warned that Vietnam's situation was “as precarious as a pile of eggs” with potential hazards lurking on every side...

    "Vietnam, she warned, is incurring Chinese displeasure. Hanoi “might well overestimate the capacity of Uncle Sam's protective umbrella,” she declared bluntly. “Should China and Vietnam truly come into military clashes, no aircraft carrier of any country can ensure it to remain secure.”

    "She advised Vietnam to “give up the illusion that it can do what it likes in the South China Sea under the protection of the American navy.”


    China Warns South Korea and Vietnam

    The Vietnamese have been fighting China to a standstill for a thousand years (one reason the toppling dominoes theory was silly) and the ROK Marines are just plain crazy MF's.

    That being said, I don't think it sends a good message for the US to withhold the aircraft carrier from the maneuvers to comply with Chinese objections.

    If you have concerns about the maneuvers don't hold them. If you are going to hold them then hold them and don't look like a weak sister while doing it.


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  37. Will Indian Military Revolt?.

    "The resentment is greatest in Kashmir, a consequence of Congress Party President Sonia Gandhi's ‘Look the other way’ policy towards the well-organized intifada now taking place in that state. The movement is designed to attract international intervention in the state—preferably of a military nature—similar to that which occurred in Kosovo. This might seem like an outlandish idea, but the separatist leaders in Kashmir (who preach their venom openly while living in opulence) have been made to believe by their handlers in Pakistan that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defence Secretary Robert Gates and CIA chief Leon Panetta are in favour of robust US mediation in Kashmir. Such intervention, they believe, would ultimately ensure that the state would, in effect, become independent from India.

    "They claim that Pakistan's army chief of staff, Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, has made it clear to the US trio that his military's support for NATO operations in the Af-Pak Pashtun belt is conditional on such an outcome in Kashmir..."


    Choosing Sides

    This is another reason we need to get out of Afghanistan. Trying to accomodate Pakistan complicates our relationship with another key ally, India.

    The US has never been good at "walking a fine line." We always seem to screw it up somehow. The current team in Washington does not provide the confidence that they will be able to pull it off.


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  38. and the ROK Marines are just plain crazy MF's.

    And, That, my friend, is Absolutely the truest words you've ever spoken.

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  39. Will Pakistani Military Revolt?

    "If ever a country were ripe for a coup, it is Pakistan. The besieged government of President Asif Ali Zardari is assailed on all fronts by man-made conflict and natural disaster and there is a palpable sense in Islamabad that the return of the generals to the presidential palace would come as something of a relief.

    "As if fighting a war against a determined enemy like the Taliban wasn't a difficult enough challenge, Mr Zardari now finds himself struggling to restore his credibility after a less-than-convincing response to the catastrophe of the flooding. To grasp the scale of the task facing the President, you need look no further than the American drone strikes that are being launched against suspected Taliban militants, at the same time as relief workers are struggling to save millions of homeless and hungry Pakistanis..."


    Pakistan in Crisis

    See Indian post above.

    A lot of shit going down in the Indian Sub-continent.


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  40. The second I navigated to the staggering hilarious Yes We Scam! B.S. We Can Believe In! Obama Approval Plummets editorial I thought that Elephant's readers should act as jury on this: http://hubpages.com/hub/Yes-We-Scam-BS-We-Can-Believe-In-Obama-Approval-Plummets

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  41. To add to Quirk's notice of the 'sub-contintent':

    The Sunni factor in Iran’s nuclear calculus


    Like most countries, Iran’s security policy is driven by multiple motives. Since Iraq was attacked and occupied after having disarmed, other states that fear a U.S. attack have a powerful incentive to acquire nuclear weapons to deter it. The history of Western intervention in Iranian affairs, coupled with the continuing bellicose rhetoric directed at the Iranian regime and large numbers of U.S. military forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, mean that Tehran cannot discount an armed attack. Moreover, with so many of its neighbours being nuclear armed – Israel, Russia, Pakistan, China and India – a prudent Iranian national security planner is likely to recommend acceleration, not abandonment, of the nuclear program.

    Iran’s aggressive posture in the Middle East is, in part, a reaction to its fears of being overwhelmed by Sunni countries surrounding the Shia island. True, Iraq is a Shia majority, but the years of Sunni rule under Mr. Hussein and the ambiguity of Americans in finalizing the Iraqi government around its Shia majority heightened Iranian suspicions. The decade-long war against Iran by Mr. Hussein’s Sunni regime was supported by Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and politely ignored by the West and the United Nations. Iran has not forgotten that.

    Tehran is opposed to Taliban domination of Afghanistan, at the expense of the sizable Shia Hazara population.

    Pakistan, the world’s only Muslim nuclear power and an immediate neighbour, has the fastest growing nuclear arsenal today. In dismissing India’s warnings of a Chinese-assisted weapons program by Pakistan, Washington set the stage for India’s – and Pakistan’s – overt nuclear breakout in 1998. In neglecting the Pakistan factor as a driver of Iran’s nuclear policy, the U.S. may be reducing its leverage over Iran’s actions.

    Pakistan’s growing nuclear arsenal poses two kinds of danger to Iran. The first is the possibility of Pakistani nuclear weapons falling into the hands of the Taliban or al-Qaeda, both of whom are anathema to the Iranians as much as they are to India and the West. Iran harbours suspicions that Pakistan could be the provider of last resort of nuclear material and weapons to Sunni countries hostile to Shia Iran. After all, Libya tried to buy nuclear weapons from the infamous A.Q. Khan syndicate, backstopped by Pakistan’s armed forces, and the same group was accused of helping the Iraqi search for WMDs."

    If Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons is seen as a search for security in a hostile Sunni region, and not just as the desire to destroy Israel, it opens up possibilities of solutions other than the one based solely on the current approach..."

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/the-sunni-factor-in-irans-nuclear-calculus/article1683839/

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  42. There Are No "possibilities of (Good) solutions" in the Islamic world.

    Islam is 100% resistant to "good" solutions.

    Islam is pretty much all about "killing, or getting killed."

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  43. Or, the "Islam Exacta," both at the same time.

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  44. It was in the stars--

    Alaska Upset: Miller leads Murkowski in the stretch
    Greg Halvorson

    You want a shocker? A political thunderclap from the voting booths of America? How ‘bout Joe Miller, who in the final poll trailed by 12 points, and who was outspent 20-to-1, leading at sunrise over Lisa Murkowski?


    Miller, a Mark Levin dark-horse and Palinite Tea Partier, holds a 51.5% to 48.6% advantage with 85% of precincts reporting. If it stays - and it is looking good - move over Scott Brown.... Turnout, turnout, turnout, Patriots-come November, we can shock the world!

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  45. Ash

    the positions you take on some issues along with the cut and pasties you use to support your positions astound the mind.

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  46. Really Strange Oil numbers out today. Huge builds in oil/gasoline/diesel. So, you drill down.

    Product "Demand" is only down 1/2 of 1%. Basically, a very small rounding error. 19.5 bbl/day vs 19.6 bbl/day.

    So, Whut hoppened?

    We're Importing Enormous Amounts of Oil, Gasoline, and even Diesel (which we normally 'export.") And, we're doing this at a time when our inventories are Very High. Whassup wit dat?

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  47. I can see that life is black and white and simple for you Gag and complexities appear to astound you.

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  48. ah it's gonna be good watching Ash's reaction to the events of November 2.

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  49. Ash will probably be out sailing that night though.

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  50. Gag,

    Re: Jew thing

    As you may have noticed, Jews are not in this thing today; it's all DR and Co, just as the management desires.

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  51. tee hee hee thou tottering common-kissing giglet!

    Referring to Ash of course.

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  52. it's all DR and Co, just as the management desires

    Naw, I recall Whit inviting rat to 'take a hike'.

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  53. No Ash

    Your cut and pastie states that you agree with Iran's stance and don't blame them for their innocent need for nukes against those evil Americans.

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  54. Rufus said:

    "There Are No "possibilities of (Good) solutions" in the Islamic world."

    I dunno about that.

    A friend reports that local Afghanis have started their own business making land mines that look like Islamist prayer mats. He tells me business is booming and prophets are going through the roof.

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  55. They don't want to take any sass from abroad.

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  56. That Ben Quayle looks kinda slimy, acts it too. Might vote for his wife though.

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  57. Prayet mat bombs were more pleasing to the men. The bomb vests the men required their wives to wear made their asses look too big.

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  58. Israel is in a tough position. Obama isn't going to do anything about Iran, if they go it alone they have a hard task. They'll surely lose some planes, they'll need planes to strike into Lebanon too, and I imagine the O administration is telling them in no uncertain terms they will not resupply their loses. The entire thing is really sad. And our side won't even back the opposition in Iran. It would seem it's really stretching Israel's capacity. Maybe they would go extra conventional. Maybe they'll do nothing, too.

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  59. Blogger Gag Reflex said...

    No Ash

    "Your cut and pastie states that you agree with Iran's stance and don't blame them for their innocent need for nukes against those evil Americans."

    Like I said Gag complexity and nuance appear to pose problems for you. A key line in that cut and paste article was:

    "If Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons is seen as a search for security in a hostile Sunni region, and not just as the desire to destroy Israel, it opens up possibilities of solutions other than the one based solely on the current approach."

    In Iran's reality there is more to worry about in the world than Israel and the US. There actually are differences and conflicts between Shia and Sunni Muslims. This is a tough concept, I realize, for those who think simply that "Islam is baaaad".

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  60. bob said...
    it's all DR and Co, just as the management desires

    Naw, I recall Whit inviting rat to 'take a hike'.

    Wed Aug 25, 11:05:00 AM EDT


    Then, you should be able to point me to one of DR's posts taken down by management. Good luck with that.

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  61. Islam is "baaaad."

    Prove it isn't. Please try to do it with out quoting another or your infamous cut and pasties.

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  62. Gag, prove you are not a pedophile.

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  63. ash,

    "Take it outside."
    ___Whit "Wayne"

    :)

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  64. I dont need to, I havent stated otherwise as you have regarding Islam. By the way, Kiss my ass.

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  65. Then, you should be able to point me to one of DR's posts taken down by management. Good luck with that.

    I'd fail there, it's true.

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  66. Oh, I see, you are a gay boy trying to elicit a kiss. No thanks.

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  67. Yeah allen you and I offended his delicate sensibilities. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words they sting!

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  68. I was witness to the ruction tween Allen and Ash. It was all Ash's fault, of course, he started out with some nasty language, which Allen then quoted back to him, as I recall. It was a minor foofaraw as things go here.

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  69. I never got to see allen's response so maybe it is I who is baaaad.

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  70. Twas a minor hullabaloo, a mere hurry–skurry.

    I'm late for my cipro and my prostate shrinker.

    Later

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  71. ooh, name calling! That a boy, Ash. Do you feel better now? Go find something to cut and pastie since you have no ideas of your own. But isnt that the Canada way? Always sucking on someone else's tit.

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  72. Happy birthday, Trish

    ...whichever day it is within these 30 days of Virgo. My mom is a virgo.

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  73. bob and ash,

    Whit's behavior was surprising to you, given the EB's daily deluge of vitriol (anti-Semitic and other). It was not to me.

    As you may recall, in a couple earlier posts I questioned his moral courage; he took this opportunity to get even. In doing so, he proved me right. Even rufus was momentarily baffled and dismayed, refering to the underhanded conduct of Wretchard that lead to the founding of the EB.


    In all my years of posting, no matter the provocation, I have ALWAYS opposed censorship and banishment. As you may recall, Quirk was admitted to the EB under the old system on my endorsement, to prove that point. Indeed, on several occasions I have defended DR's right to be a backbiting snake-in-the-grass.

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  74. The Imam of the Victory Mosque/Community Center at Ground Zero Support Hamas and supports them.






    Hamas Charter (1988)

    The Charter of Allah: The Platform of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas)

    “In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate You are the best community that has been raised up for mankind. Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah. And if the People of the Scripture had believed, it had been better for them. Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-doers. They will not harm you save a trifling hurt, and if they fight against you they will turn and flee. And afterward they will not be helped. Ignominy shall be their portion wheresoever they are found save [where they grasp] a rope from Allah and a rope from man. They have incurred anger from their Lord, and wretchedness is laid upon them. That is because they used to disbelieve the revelations of Allah, and slew the Prophets wrongfully. That is because they were rebellious and used to transgress.” Surat Al-Imran (III), verses 109-111 Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors. The Islamic World is burning. It is incumbent upon each one of us to pour some water, little as it may be, with a view of extinguishing as much of the fire as he can, without awaiting action by the others.

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  75. Introduction

    Grace to Allah, whose help we seek, whose forgiveness we beseech, whose guidance we implore and on whom we rely. We pray and bid peace upon the Messenger of Allah, his family, his companions, his followers and those who spread his message and followed his tradition; they will last as long as there exist Heaven and Earth. O, people! In the midst of misadventure, from the depth of suffering, from the believing hearts and purified arms; aware of our duty and in response to the decree of Allah, we direct our call, we rally together and join each other. We educate in the path of Allah and we make our firm determination prevail so as to take its proper role in life, to overcome all difficulties and to cross all hurdles. Hence our permanent state of preparedness and our readiness to sacrifice our souls and dearest [possessions] in the path of Allah. Thus, our nucleus has formed which chartered its way in the tempestuous ocean of creeds and hopes, desires and wishes, dangers and difficulties, setbacks and challenges, both internal and external. When the thought matured, the seed grew and the plant took root in the land of reality, detached from temporary emotion and unwelcome haste, the Islamic Resistance Movement erupted in order to play its role in the path of its Lord. In so doing, it joined its hands with those of all Jihad fighters for the purpose of liberating Palestine. The souls of its Jihad fighters will encounter those of all Jihad fighters who have sacrificed their lives in the land of Palestine since it was conquered by the Companion of the Prophet, be Allah’s prayer and peace upon him, and until this very day. This is the Charter of the Islamic Resistance (Hamas) which will reveal its face, unveil its identity, state its position, clarify its purpose, discuss its hopes, call for support to its cause and reinforcement, and for joining its ranks. For our struggle against the Jews is extremely wide-ranging and grave, so much so that it will need all the loyal efforts we can wield, to be followed by further steps and reinforced by successive battalions from the multifarious Arab and Islamic world, until the enemies are defeated and Allah’s victory prevails. Thus we shall perceive them approaching in the horizon, and this will be known before long: “Allah has decreed: Lo! I very shall conquer, I and my messenger, lo! Allah is strong, almighty.”

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  76. Part I - Knowing the Movement

    Article One: The Ideological Aspects
    The Islamic Resistance Movement draws its guidelines from Islam; derives from it its thinking, interpretations and views about existence, life and humanity; refers back to it for its conduct; and is inspired by it in whatever step it takes.

    Article Two: The Link between Hamas and the Association of Muslim Brothers
    The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the wings of the Muslim Brothers in Palestine. The Muslim Brotherhood Movement is a world organization, the largest Islamic Movement in the modern era. It is characterized by a profound understanding, by precise notions and by a complete comprehensiveness of all concepts of Islam in all domains of life: views and beliefs, politics and economics, education and society, jurisprudence and rule, indoctrination and teaching, the arts and publications, the hidden and the evident, and all the other domains of life.
    Article Three: Structure and Essence
    The basic structure of the Islamic Resistance Movement consists of Muslims who are devoted to Allah and worship Him verily [as it is written]: “I have created Man and Devil for the purpose of their worship” [of Allah]. Those Muslims are cognizant of their duty towards themselves, their families and country and they have been relying on Allah for all that. They have raised the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors in order to extricate the country and the people from the [oppressors’] desecration, filth and evil.

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  77. Article Four
    The Movement welcomes all Muslims who share its beliefs and thinking, commit themselves to its course of action, keep its secrets and aspire to join its ranks in order to carry out their duty. Allah will reward them.

    Article Five: Dimensions of Time and Space of the Hamas
    As the Movement adopts Islam as its way of life, its time dimension extends back as far as the birth of the Islamic Message and of the Righteous Ancestor. Its ultimate goal is Islam, the Prophet its model, the Qur’an its Constitution. Its special dimension extends wherever on earth there are Muslims, who adopt Islam as their way of life; thus, it penetrates to the deepest reaches of the land and to the highest spheres of Heavens.

    Article Six: Peculiarity and Independence
    The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinct Palestinian Movement which owes its loyalty to Allah, derives from Islam its way of life and strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine. Only under the shadow of Islam could the members of all regions coexist in safety and security for their lives, properties and rights. In the absence of Islam, conflict arises, oppression reigns, corruption is rampant and struggles and wars prevail. Allah had inspired the Muslim poet, Muhammad Iqbal, when he said:
    When the Faith wanes, there is no security
    There is no this-worldliness for those who have no faith
    Those who wish to live their life without religion
    Have made annihilation the equivalent of life.

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  78. Article Seven: The Universality of Hamas
    By virtue of the distribution of Muslims, who pursue the cause of the Hamas, all over the globe, and strive for its victory, for the reinforcement of its positions and for the encouragement of its Jihad, the Movement is a universal one. It is apt to be that due to the clarity of its thinking, the nobility of its purpose and the loftiness of its objectives. It is in this light that the Movement has to be regarded, evaluated and acknowledged. Whoever denigrates its worth, or avoids supporting it, or is so blind as to dismiss its role, is challenging Fate itself. Whoever closes his eyes from seeing the facts, whether intentionally or not, will wake up to find himself overtaken by events, and will find no excuses to justify his position. Priority is reserved to the early comers. Oppressing those who are closest to you, is more of an agony to the soul than the impact of an Indian sword. “And unto thee have we revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which has come unto thee. For each we have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. Had Allah willed, He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which he has given you [He has made you as you are]. So vie with one another in good works. Unto Allah, you will all return. He will then inform you of that wherein you differ.” Hamas is one of the links in the Chain of Jihad in the confrontation with the Zionist invasion. It links up with the setting out of the Martyr Izz a-din al-Qassam and his brothers in the Muslim Brotherhood who fought the Holy War in 1936; it further relates to another link of the Palestinian Jihad and the Jihad and efforts of the Muslim Brothers during the 1948 War, and to the Jihad operations of the Muslim Brothers in 1968 and thereafter. But even if the links have become distant from each other, and even if the obstacles erected by those who revolve in the Zionist orbit, aiming at obstructing the road before the Jihad fighters, have rendered the pursuance of Jihad impossible; nevertheless, the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim).

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  79. Article Eight: The Slogan of the Hamas
    Allah is its goal, the Prophet its model, the Qur’an its Constitution, Jihad its path and death for the case of Allah its most sublime belief.

    Part II - Objectives

    Article Nine: Motives and Objectives
    Hamas finds itself at a period of time when Islam has waned away from the reality of life. For this reason, the checks and balances have been upset, concepts have become confused, and values have been transformed; evil has prevailed, oppression and obscurity have reigned; cowards have turned tigers, homelands have been usurped, people have been uprooted and are wandering all over the globe. The state of truth has disappeared and was replaced by the state of evil. Nothing has remained in its right place, for when Islam is removed from the scene, everything changes. These are the motives. As to the objectives: discarding the evil, crushing it and defeating it, so that truth may prevail, homelands revert [to their owners], calls for prayer be heard from their mosques, announcing the reinstitution of the Muslim state. Thus, people and things will revert to their true place.

    Article Ten
    The Islamic Resistance Movement, while breaking its own path, will do its utmost to constitute at the same time a support to the weak, a defense to all the oppressed. It will spare no effort to implement the truth and abolish evil, in speech and in fact, both here and in any other location where it can reach out and exert influence.

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  80. Part III - Strategies and Methods

    Article Eleven: The Strategy of Hamas: Palestine is an Islamic Waqf
    The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine has been an Islamic Waqf throughout the generations and until the Day of Resurrection, no one can renounce it or part of it, or abandon it or part of it. No Arab country nor the aggregate of all Arab countries, and no Arab King or President nor all of them in the aggregate, have that right, nor has that right any organization or the aggregate of all organizations, be they Palestinian or Arab, because Palestine is an Islamic Waqf throughout all generations and to the Day of Resurrection. Who can presume to speak for all Islamic Generations to the Day of Resurrection? This is the status [of the land] in Islamic Shari’a, and it is similar to all lands conquered by Islam by force, and made thereby Waqf lands upon their conquest, for all generations of Muslims until the Day of Resurrection. This [norm] has prevailed since the commanders of the Muslim armies completed the conquest of Syria and Iraq, and they asked the Caliph of Muslims, ‘Umar Ibn al-Khattab, for his view of the conquered land, whether it should be partitioned between the troops or left in the possession of its population, or otherwise. Following discussions and consultations between the Caliph of Islam, ‘Umar Ibn al-Khattab, and the Companions of the Messenger of Allah, be peace and prayer upon him, they decided that the land should remain in the hands of its owners to benefit from it and from its wealth; but the control of the land and the land itself ought to be endowed as a Waqf [in perpetuity] for all generations of Muslims until the Day of Resurrection. The ownership of the land by its owners is only one of usufruct, and this Waqf will endure as long as Heaven and earth last. Any demarche in violation of this law of Islam, with regard to Palestine, is baseless and reflects on its perpetrators.

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  81. Article Twelve: Hamas in Palestine, Its Views on Homeland and Nationalism
    Hamas regards Nationalism (Wataniyya) as part and parcel of the religious faith. Nothing is loftier or deeper in Nationalism than waging Jihad against the enemy and confronting him when he sets foot on the land of the Muslims. And this becomes an individual duty binding on every Muslim man and woman; a woman must go out and fight the enemy even without her husband’s authorization, and a slave without his masters’ permission. This [principle] does not exist under any other regime, and it is a truth not to be questioned. While other nationalisms consist of material, human and territorial considerations, the nationality of Hamas also carries, in addition to all those, the all important divine factors which lend to it its spirit and life; so much so that it connects with the origin of the spirit and the source of life and raises in the skies of the Homeland the Banner of the Lord, thus inexorably connecting earth with Heaven. When Moses came and threw his baton, sorcery and sorcerers became futile.

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  82. Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences
    [Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: “Allah is the all-powerful, but most people are not aware.” From time to time a clamoring is voiced, to hold an International Conference in search for a solution to the problem. Some accept the idea, others reject it, for one reason or another, demanding the implementation of this or that condition, as a prerequisite for agreeing to convene the Conference or for participating in it. But the Islamic Resistance Movement, which is aware of the [prospective] parties to this conference, and of their past and present positions towards the problems of the Muslims, does not believe that those conferences are capable of responding to demands, or of restoring rights or doing justice to the oppressed. Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the nonbelievers as arbitrators in the lands of Islam. Since when did the Unbelievers do justice to the Believers? “And the Jews will not be pleased with thee,

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  83. nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah [himself] is the Guidance. And if you should follow their desires after the knowledge which has come unto thee, then you would have from Allah no protecting friend nor helper.” Sura 2 (the Cow), verse 120 There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. The initiatives, proposals and International Conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility. The Palestinian people are too noble to have their future, their right and their destiny submitted to a vain game. As the hadith has it: “The people of Syria are Allah’s whip on this land; He takes revenge by their intermediary from whoever he wished among his worshipers. The Hypocrites among them are forbidden from vanquishing the true believers, and they will die in anxiety and sorrow.” (Told by Tabarani, who is traceable in ascending order of traditionaries to Muhammad, and by Ahmed whose chain of transmission is incomplete. But it is bound to be a true hadith, for both story tellers are reliable. Allah knows best.)

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  84. Article Fourteen: The Three Circles
    The problem of the liberation of Palestine relates to three circles: the Palestinian, the Arab and the Islamic. Each one of these circles has a role to play in the struggle against Zionism and it has duties to fulfill. It would be an enormous mistake and an abysmal act of ignorance to disregard anyone of these circles. For Palestine is an Islamic land where the First Qibla and the third holiest site are located. That is also the place whence the Prophet, be Allah’s prayer and peace upon him, ascended to heavens. “Glorified be He who carried His servant by night from the Inviolable Place of worship to the Far Distant Place of Worship, the neighborhood whereof we have blessed, that we might show him of our tokens! Lo! He, only He, is the Hearer, the Seer.” Sura XVII (al-Isra’), verse 1 In consequence of this state of affairs, the liberation of that land is an individual duty binding on all Muslims everywhere. This is the base on which all Muslims have to regard the problem; this has to be understood by all Muslims. When the problem is dealt with on this basis, where the full potential of the three circles is mobilized, then the current circumstances will change and the day of liberation will come closer. “You are more awful as a fear in their bosoms than Allah. That is because they are a folk who understand not.” Sura LIX, (Al-Hashr, the Exile), verse 13.

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  85. The way I read the incident, Whit was trying to keep at least one post on subject, in this case, the return of the last combat troops from Iraq, without much of the bickering that takes place here every day.

    To the fact that some here get their panties in a wad over it (even some who didn't even know what the shit it was about), all I can say is 'poor babies'.

    Whit has been right to ignore the idle praddle about it.

    As Bob pointed out the argument was over nothing, at least nothing we haven't seen a hundred times before. Yet I suspect we'll hear continued bitching about it well into the future.


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  86. Article Fifteen: The Jihad for the Liberation of Palestine is an Individual Obligation
    When our enemies usurp some Islamic lands, Jihad becomes a duty binding on all Muslims. In order to face the usurpation of Palestine by the Jews, we have no escape from raising the banner of Jihad. This would require the propagation of Islamic consciousness among the masses on all local, Arab and Islamic levels. We must spread the spirit of Jihad among the [Islamic] Umma, clash with the enemies and join the ranks of the Jihad fighters. The ‘ulama as well as educators and teachers, publicity and media men as well as the masses of the educated, and especially the youth and the elders of the Islamic Movements, must participate in this raising of consciousness. There is no escape from introducing fundamental changes in educational curricula in order to cleanse them from all vestiges of the ideological invasion which has been brought about by orientalists and missionaries. That invasion had begun overtaking this area following the defeat of the Crusader armies by Salah a-Din el Ayyubi. The Crusaders had understood that they had no way to vanquish the Muslims unless they prepared the grounds for that with an ideological invasion which would confuse the thinking of Muslims, revile their heritage, discredit their ideals, to be followed by a military invasion.

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  87. That was to be in preparation for the Imperialist invasion, as in fact [General] Allenby acknowledged it upon his entry to Jerusalem: “Now, the Crusades are over.” General Gouraud stood on the tomb of Salah a-Din and declared: “We have returned, O Salah-a-Din!” Imperialism has been instrumental in boosting the ideological invasion and deepening its roots, and it is still pursuing this goal. All this had paved the way to the loss of Palestine. We must imprint on the minds of generations of Muslims that the Palestinian problem is a religious one, to be dealt with on this premise. It includes Islamic holy sites such as the Aqsa Mosque, which is inexorably linked to the Holy Mosque as long as the Heaven and earth will exist, to the journey of the Messenger of Allah, be Allah’s peace and blessing upon him, to it, and to his ascension from it. “Dwelling one day in the Path of Allah is better than the entire world and everything that exists in it. The place of the whip of one among you in Paradise is better than the entire world and everything that exists in it. [God’s] worshiper’s going and coming in the Path of Allah is better than the entire world and everything that exists in it.” (Told by Bukhari, Muslim Tirmidhi and Ibn Maja) I swear by that who holds in His Hands the Soul of Muhammad! I indeed wish to go to war for the sake of Allah! I will assault and kill, assault and kill, assault and kill (told by Bukhari and Muslim).

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  88. Article Sixteen
    We must accord the Islamic [young] generations in our area, an Islamic education based on the implementation of religious precepts, on the conscientious study of the Book of Allah; on the Study of the Prophetic Tradition, on the study of Islamic history and heritage from its reliable sources, under the guidance of experts and scientists, and on singling out the paths which constitute for the Muslims sound concepts of thinking and faith. It is also necessary to study conscientiously the enemy and its material and human potential; to detect its weak and strong spots, and to recognize the powers that support it and stand by it. At the same time, we must be aware of current events, follow the news and study the analyses and commentaries on it, together with drawing plans for the present and the future and examining every phenomenon, so that every Muslim, fighting Jihad, could live out his era aware of his objective, his goals, his way and the things happening round him. “O my dear son! Lo! though it be but the weight of a grain of mustard-seed, and though it be in a rock, or in the heavens, or in the earth, Allah will bring it forth. Lo! Allah is subtle. Aware. O my dear son! Establish worship and enjoin kindness and forbid inequity, and persevere, whatever may befall thee. Lo! that is of the steadfast heart of things. Turn not thy cheek in scorn toward folk, nor walk with pertness in the land. Lo! Allah loves not braggarts and boasters.” Sura XXXI (Luqman), verses 16-18

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  89. just follow the Quirkster's lead for he is always on topic.

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  90. Article Seventeen: The Role of Muslim Women
    The Muslim women have a no lesser role than that of men in the war of liberation; they manufacture men and play a great role in guiding and educating the [new] generation. The enemies have understood that role, therefore they realize that if they can guide and educate [the Muslim women] in a way that would distance them from Islam, they would have won that war. Therefore, you can see them making consistent efforts [in that direction] by way of publicity and movies, curricula of education and culture, using as their intermediaries their craftsmen who are part of the various Zionist Organizations which take on all sorts of names and shapes such as: the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, gangs of spies and the like. All of them are nests of saboteurs and sabotage. Those Zionist organizations control vast material resources, which enable them to fulfill their mission amidst societies, with a view of implementing Zionist goals and sowing the concepts that can be of use to the enemy. Those organizations operate [in a situation] where Islam is absent from the arena and alienated from its people. Thus, the Muslims must fulfill their duty in confronting the schemes of those saboteurs. When Islam will retake possession of [the means to] guide the life [of the Muslims], it will wipe out those organizations which are the enemy of humanity and Islam.

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  91. Article Eighteen
    The women in the house and the family of Jihad fighters, whether they are mothers or sisters, carry out the most important duty of caring for the home and raising the children upon the moral concepts and values which derive from Islam; and of educating their sons to observe the religious injunctions in preparation for the duty of Jihad awaiting them. Therefore, we must pay attention to the schools and curricula upon which Muslim girls are educated, so as to make them righteous mothers, who are conscious of their duties in the war of liberation. They must be fully capable of being aware and of grasping the ways to manage their households. Economy and avoiding waste in household expenditures are prerequisites to our ability to pursue our cause in the difficult circumstances surrounding us. Therefore let them remember at all times that money saved is equivalent to blood, which must be made to run in the veins in order to ensure the continuity of life of our young and old. “Lo, men who surrender unto Allah, and women who surrender and men who believe and women who believe, and men who obey and women who obey, and men who speak the truth and women who speak the truth and men who persevere (in righteousness) and women who persevere and men who are humble and women who are humble, and men who give alms and women who give alms, and men who fast and women who fast, and men who guard their modesty and women who guard [their modesty], and men who remember Allah much and women who remember Allah has prepared for them forgiveness and a vast reward.” Sura 33 (Al-Ahzab, the Clans), verse 35.

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  92. Article Nineteen: The Role of Islamic Art in the War of Liberation
    Art has rules and criteria by which one can know whether it is Islamic or Jahiliyya art. The problems of Islamic liberation underlie the need for Islamic art which could lift the spirit, and instead of making one party triumph over the other, would lift up all parties in harmony and balance. Man is a strange and miraculous being, made out of a handful of clay and a breath of soul; Islamic art is to address man on this basis, while Jahili art addresses the body and makes the element of clay paramount. So, books, articles, publications, religious exhortations, epistles, songs, poems, hymns, plays, and the like, if they possess the characteristics of Islamic art, have the requisites of ideological mobilization, of a continuous nurturing in the pursuance of the journey, and of relaxing the soul. The road is long and the suffering is great and the spirits are weary; it is Islamic art which renews the activity, revives the movement and arouses lofty concepts and sound planning. The soul cannot thrive, unless it knows how to contrive, unless it can transit from one situation to another. All this is a serious matter, no jesting. For the umma fighting its Jihad knows no jesting.

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  93. Article Twenty: Social Solidarity
    Islamic society is one of solidarity. The Messenger of Allah, be Allah’s prayer and peace upon him, said: What a wonderful tribe were the Ash’aris! When they were overtaxed, either in their location or during their journeys, they would collect all their possessions, and then would divide them equally among themselves. This is the Islamic spirit which ought to prevail in any Muslim society. A society which confronts a vicious, Nazi-like enemy, who does not differentiate between man and woman, elder and young ought to be the first to adorn itself with this Islamic spirit. Our enemy pursues the style of collective punishment of usurping people’s countries and properties, of pursuing them into their exiles and places of assembly. It has resorted to breaking bones, opening fire on women and children and the old, with or without reason, and to setting up detention camps where thousands upon thousands are interned in inhuman conditions. In addition, it destroys houses, renders children orphans and issues oppressive judgements against thousands of young people who spend the best years of their youth in the darkness of prisons. The Nazism of the Jews does not skip women and children, it scares everyone. They make war against people’s livelihood, plunder their moneys and threaten their honor. In their horrible actions they mistreat people like the most horrendous war criminals. Exiling people from their country is another way of killing them. As we face this misconduct, we have no escape from establishing social solidarity among the people, from confronting the enemy as one solid body, so that if one organ is hurt the rest of the body will respond with alertness and fervor.

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  94. Article Twenty-One
    Social solidarity consists of extending help to all the needy, both materially and morally, or assisting in the execution of certain actions. It is incumbent upon the members of the Hamas to look after the interests of the masses the way they would look after their own interests. They must spare no effort in the implementation and maintenance of those interests, and they must avoid playing with anything that might effect the future generations or cause damage to their society. For the masses are of them and for them, their strength is [ultimately] theirs and their future is theirs. The members of Hamas must share with the people its joys and sorrows, and adopt the demands of the people and anything likely to fulfill its interests and theirs. When this spirit reigns, congeniality will deepen, cooperation and compassion will prevail, unity will firm up, and the ranks will be strengthened in the confrontation with the enemy.

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  95. Article Twenty-Two: The Powers which Support the Enemy
    The enemies have been scheming for a long time, and they have consolidated their schemes, in order to achieve what they have achieved. They took advantage of key elements in unfolding events, and accumulated a huge and influential material wealth which they put to the service of implementing their dream. This wealth [permitted them to] take over control of the world media such as news agencies, the press, publication houses, broadcasting and the like. [They also used this] wealth to stir revolutions in various parts of the globe in order to fulfill their interests and pick the fruits. They stood behind the French and the Communist Revolutions and behind most of the revolutions we hear about here and there. They also used the money to establish clandestine organizations which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests. Such organizations are:

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  96. the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, Lions Clubs, B’nai B’rith and the like. All of them are destructive spying organizations. They also used the money to take over control of the Imperialist states and made them colonize many countries in order to exploit the wealth of those countries and spread their corruption therein. As regards local and world wars, it has come to pass and no one objects, that they stood behind World War I, so as to wipe out the Islamic Caliphate. They collected material gains and took control of many sources of wealth. They obtained the Balfour Declaration and established the League of Nations in order to rule the world by means of that organization. They also stood behind World War II, where they collected immense benefits from trading with war materials and prepared for the establishment of their state. They inspired the establishment of the United Nations and the Security Council to replace the League of Nations, in order to rule the world by their intermediary. There was no war that broke out anywhere without their fingerprints on it: “…As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguishes it. Their efforts are for corruption in the land and Allah loves not corrupters.” Sura V (Al-Ma’ida—the Tablespread), verse 64 The forces of Imperialism in both the Capitalist West and the Communist East support the enemy with all their might, in material and human terms, taking turns between themselves. When Islam appears, all the forces of Unbelief unite to confront it, because the Community of Unbelief is one. “Oh ye who believe! Take not for intimates others than your own folk, who would spare no pain to ruin you. Hatred is revealed by [the utterance of] their mouth, but that which their breasts hide is greater. We have made plain for you the revelations if you will understand.” Sura III, (Al-Imran), verse 118 It is not in vain that the verse ends with God’s saying: “If you will understand.”

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  97. Part IV

    Article Twenty-Three: Our Position Vis-a-Vis the Islamic Movements
    The Hamas views the other Islamic movements with respect and appreciation. Even when it differs from them in one aspect or another or on one concept or another, it agrees with them in other aspects and concepts. It reads those movements as included in the framework of striving [for the sake of Allah], as long as they hold sound intentions and abide by their devotion to Allah, and as along as their conduct remains within the perimeter of the Islamic circle. All the fighters of Jihad have their reward. The Hamas regards those movements as its stock holders and asks Allah for guidance and integrity of conduct for all. It shall not fail to continue to raise the banner of unity and to exert efforts in order to implement it, [based] upon the [Holy] Book and the [Prophet’s] Tradition. “And hold fast, all of you together, to the cable of Allah, do not separate. And remember Allah’s favor unto you how ye were enemies and He made friendship between your hearts so that ye became as brothers by His grace; and (how) ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it. Thus Allah makes clear His revelations unto you, that happily ye may be guided.” Sura III (Al-’Imran), verse 102.

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  98. Article Twenty-Four
    Hamas will not permit the slandering and defamation of individuals and groups, for the Believers are not slanderers and cursers. However, despite the need to differentiate between that and the positions and modes of conduct adopted by individuals and groups whenever the Hamas detects faulty positions and modes of conduct, it has the right to point to the mistake, to denigrate it, to act for spelling out the truth and for adopting it realistically in the context of a given problem. Wisdom is roaming around, and the Believer ought to grasp it wherever he can find it. “Allah loves not the utterance of harsh speech save by one who has been wronged. Allah is ever Hearer, Knower. If you do good openly or keep it secret, or give evil, lo! Allah is forgiving, powerful.” Sura IV (Women), verses 147-148.

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  99. Article Twenty-Five: The National (wataniyya) Movements in the Palestinian Arena
    [Hamas] reciprocated its respect to them, appreciates their condition and the factors surrounding them and influencing them, and supports them firmly as long as they do not owe their loyalty to the Communist East or to the Crusader West. We reiterate to every one who is part of them or sympathizes with them that the Hamas is a movement of Jihad, or morality and consciousness in its concept of life. It moves forward with the others, abhors opportunism, and only wishes well to individuals and groups. It does not aspire to material gains, or to personal fame, nor does it solicit remuneration from the people. It sets out relying on its own material resources, and what is available to it, [as it is said] “afford them the power you can avail yourself of.” [All that] in order to carry out its duty, to gain Allah’s favor;

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  100. it has no ambition other than that. All the nationalist streams, operating in the Palestinian arena for the sake of the liberation of Palestine, may rest assured that they will definitely and resolutely get support and assistance, in speech and in action, at the present and in the future, [because Hamas aspires] to unite, not to divide; to safeguard, not to squander; to bring together, not to fragment. It values every kind word, every devoted effort and every commendable endeavor. It closes the door before marginal quarrels, it does not heed rumors and biased statements, and it is aware of the right of self-defense. Anything that runs counter or contradicts this orientation is trumped up by the enemies or by those who run in their orbit in order to create confusion, to divide our ranks or to divert to marginal things. “O ye who believe! If an evil-liver bring you tidings, verify it, lest ye smite some folk in ignorance and afterward repent of what ye did.” Sura XLIX (al Hujurat, the Private Apartments), verse 6

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  101. Article Twenty-Six
    The Hamas, while it views positively the Palestinian National Movements which do not owe their loyalty to the East or to the West, does not refrain from debating unfolding events regarding the Palestinian problem, on the local and international scenes. These debates are realistic and expose the extent to which [these developments] go along with, or contradict, national interests as viewed from the Islamic vantage point.

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  102. Article Twenty Seven: The Palestine Liberation Organization
    The PLO is among the closest to the Hamas, for it constitutes a father, a brother, a relative, a friend. Can a Muslim turn away from his father, his brother, his relative or his friend? Our homeland is one, our calamity is one, our destiny is one and our enemy is common to both of us. Under the influence of the circumstances which surrounded the founding of the PLO, and the ideological invasion which has swept the Arab world since the rout of the Crusades, and which has been reinforced by Orientalism and the Christian Mission, the PLO has adopted the idea of a Secular State, and so we think of it. Secular thought is diametrically opposed to religious thought. Thought is the basis for positions, for modes of conduct and for resolutions. Therefore, in spite of our appreciation for the PLO and its possible transformation in the future, and despite the fact that we do not denigrate its role in the Arab-Israeli conflict, we cannot substitute it for the Islamic nature of Palestine by adopting secular thought. F

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  103. For the Islamic nature of Palestine is part of our religion, and anyone who neglects his religion is bound to lose. “And who forsakes the religion of Abraham, save him who befools himself?” Sura II (Al-Baqra—the Co), verse 130 When the PLO adopts Islam as the guideline for life, then we shall become its soldiers, the fuel of its fire which will burn the enemies. And until that happens, and we pray to Allah that it will happen soon, the position of the Hamas towards the PLO is one of a son towards his father, a brother towards his brother, and a relative towards his relative who suffers the other’s pain when a thorn hits him, who supports the other in the confrontation with the enemies and who wishes him divine guidance and integrity of conduct. Your brother, your brother! Whoever has no brother, is like a fighter who runs to the battle without weapons. A cousin for man is like the best wing, and no falcon can take off without wings.

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  104. Article Twenty-Eight
    The Zionist invasion is a mischievous one. It does not hesitate to take any road, or to pursue all despicable and repulsive means to fulfill its desires. It relies to a great extent, for its meddling and spying activities, on the clandestine organizations which it has established, such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, Lions, and other spying associations. All those secret organizations, some which are overt, act for the interests of Zionism and under its directions, strive to demolish societies, to destroy values, to wreck answerableness, to totter virtues and to wipe out Islam. It stands behind the diffusion of drugs and toxics of all kinds in order to facilitate its control and expansion. The Arab states surrounding Israel are required to open their borders to the Jihad fighters, the sons of the Arab and Islamic peoples, to enable them to play their role and to join their efforts to those of their brothers among the Muslim Brothers in Palestine. The other Arab and Islamic states are required, at the very least, to facilitate the movement of the Jihad fighters from and to them. We cannot fail to remind every Muslim that when the Jews occupied Holy Jerusalem in 1967 and stood at the doorstep of the Blessed Aqsa Mosque, they shouted with joy: “Muhammad is dead, he left daughters behind.” Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims. “Let the eyes of the cowards not fall asleep.”

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  105. Article Twenty-Nine: National and Religious Associations, Institutions, the Intelligentsia, and the Arab and Islamic Worlds
    Hamas hopes that those Associations will stand by it on all levels, will support it, adopt its positions, boost its activities and moves and encourage support for it, so as to render the Islamic peoples its backers and helpers, and its strategic depth in all human and material domains as well as in information, in time and space. Among other things, they hold solidarity meetings, issue explanatory publications, supportive articles and tendentious leaflets to make the masses aware of the Palestinian issue, the problems it faces and of the plans to resolve them; and to mobilize the Islamic peoples ideologically, educationally and culturally in order to fulfill their role in the crucial war of liberation, as they had played their role in the defeat of the Crusades and in the rout of the Tartars and had saved human civilization. How all that is dear to Allah! “Allah has decreed: Lo! I verily shall conquer, I and my messengers. Lo! Allah is strong, Almighty.” Sura LVIII (Al-Mujadilah)

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  106. Article Thirty
    Men of letters, members of the intelligentsia, media people, preachers, teachers and educators and all different sectors in the Arab and Islamic world, are all called upon to play their role and to carry out their duty in view of the wickedness of the Zionist invasion, of its penetration into many countries, and its control over material means and the media, with all the ramifications thereof in most countries of the world. Jihad means not only carrying arms and denigrating the enemies. Uttering positive words, writing good articles and useful books, and lending support and assistance, all that too is Jihad in the path of Allah, as long as intentions are sincere to make Allah’s banner supreme. “Those who prepare for a raid in the path of Allah are considered as if they participated themselves in the raid. Those who successfully rear a raider in their home, are considered as if they participated themselves in the raid.” (Told by Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud and Tirmidhi)

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  107. Article Thirty-One: The Members of Other Religions The Hamas is a Humane Movement
    Hamas is a humane movement, which cares for human rights and is committed to the tolerance inherent in Islam as regards attitudes towards other religions. It is only hostile to those who are hostile towards it, or stand in its way in order to disturb its moves or to frustrate its efforts. Under the shadow of Islam it is possible for the members of the three religions: Islam, Christianity and Judaism to coexist in safety and security. Safety and security can only prevail under the shadow of Islam, and recent and ancient history is the best witness to that effect. The members of other religions must desist from struggling against Islam over sovereignty in this region. For if they were to gain the upper hand, fighting, torture and uprooting would follow; they would be fed up with each other, to say nothing of members of other religions. The past and the present are full of evidence to that effect.

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  108. “They will not fight you in body safe in fortified villages or from behind wells. Their adversity among themselves is very great. Ye think of them as a whole whereas their hearts are diverse. That is because they are a folk who have no sense.” Sura 59 (al-Hashr, the Exile), verse 14 Islam accords his rights to everyone who has rights and averts aggression against the rights of others. The Nazi Zionist practices against our people will not last the lifetime of their invasion, for “states built upon oppression last only one hour, states based upon justice will last until the hour of Resurrection.” “Allah forbids you not those who warred not against you on account of religion and drove you not out from your houses, that you should show them kindness and deal justly with them. Lo! Allah loves the just dealers.” Sura 60 (Al-Mumtahana), verse 8.

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  109. Article Thirty-Two: The Attempts to Isolate the Palestinian People
    World Zionism and Imperialist forces have been attempting, with smart moves and considered planning, to push the Arab countries, one after another, out of the circle of conflict with Zionism, in order, ultimately, to isolate the Palestinian People. Egypt has already been cast out of the conflict, to a very great extent through the treacherous Camp David Accords, and she has been trying to drag other countries into similar agreements in order to push them out of the circle of conflict. Hamas is calling upon the Arab and Islamic peoples to act seriously and tirelessly in order to frustrate that dreadful scheme and to make the masses aware of the danger of coping out of the circle of struggle with Zionism. Today it is Palestine and tomorrow it may be another country or other countries. For Zionist scheming has no end, and after Palestine they will covet expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates. Only when they have completed digesting the area on which they will have laid their hand, they will look forward to more expansion, etc. Their scheme has been laid out in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and their present [conduct] is the best proof of what is said there.

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  110. Leaving the circle of conflict with Israel is a major act of treason and it will bring curse on its perpetrators. “Who so on that day turns his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly has incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.” Sura 8 (al-Anfal—Spoils of War), verse 16 We have no escape from pooling together all the forces and energies to face this despicable Nazi-Tatar invasion. Otherwise we shall witness the loss of [our] countries, the uprooting of their inhabitants, the spreading of corruption on earth and the destruction of all religious values. Let everyone realize that he is accountable to Allah. “Whoever does a speck of good will bear [the consequences] and whoever does a speck of evil will see [the consequences].” Within the circle of the conflict with world Zionism, the Hamas regards itself the spearhead and the avant-garde. It joins its efforts to all those who are active on the Palestinian scene, but more steps need to be taken by the Arab and Islamic peoples and Islamic associations throughout the Arab and Islamic world in order to make possible the next round with the Jews, the merchants of war. “We have cast among them enmity and hatred till the day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguishes it. Their effort is for corruption in the land, and Allah loves not corrupters.” Sura V (Al-Ma’idah—the Table spread), verse 64.

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  111. Article Thirty-Three
    The Hamas sets out from these general concepts which are consistent and in accordance with the rules of the universe, and gushes forth in the river of Fate in its confrontation and Jihad waging against the enemies, in defense of the Muslim human being, of Islamic Civilization and of the Islamic Holy Places, primarily the Blessed Aqsa Mosque. This, for the purpose of calling upon the Arab and Islamic peoples as well as their governments, popular and official associations, to fear Allah in their attitude towards and dealings with Hamas, and to be, in accordance with Allah’s will, its supporters and partisans who extend assistance to it and provide it with reinforcement after reinforcement, until the Decree of Allah is fulfilled, the ranks are over-swollen, Jihad fighters join other Jihad fighters, and all this accumulation sets out from everywhere in the Islamic world, obeying the call of duty, and intoning “Come on, join Jihad!” This call will tear apart the clouds in the skies and it will continue to ring until liberation is completed, the invaders are vanquished and Allah’s victory sets in. “Verily Allah helps one who helps Him. Lo! Allah is strong, Almighty.” Sura XXII (Pilgrimage), verse 40.

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  112. Part V - The Testimony of History

    Article Thirty-Four: Confronting Aggressors Throughout History
    Palestine is the navel of earth, the convergence of continents, the object of greed for the greedy, since the dawn of history. The Prophet, may Allah’s prayer and peace be upon him, points out to that fact in his noble hadith in which he implored his venerable Companion, Ma’adh ibn Jabl, saying: “O Ma’adh, Allah is going to grant you victory over Syria after me, from Al-Arish to the Euphrates, while its men, women, and female slaves will be dwelling there until the Day of Resurrection. Those of you who chose [to dwell in one of the plains of Syria or Palestine will be in a state of Jihad to the Day of Resurrection.” The greedy have coveted Palestine more than once and they raided it with armies in order to fulfill their covetousness. Multitudes of Crusades descended on it, carrying their faith with them and waving their Cross. They were able to defeat the Muslims for a long time, and the Muslims were not able to redeem it until their sought the protection of their religious banner; then, they unified their forces,

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  113. sang the praise of their God and set out for Jihad under the Command of Saladin al-Ayyubi, for the duration of nearly two decades, and then the obvious conquest took place when the Crusaders were defeated and Palestine was liberated. “Say (O Muhammad) unto those who disbelieve: ye shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell, an evil resting place.” Sura III (Al-Imran), verse 12. This is the only way to liberation, there is no doubt in the testimony of history. That is one of the rules of the universe and one of the laws of existence. Only iron can blunt iron, only the true faith of Islam can vanquish their false and falsified faith. Faith can only be fought by faith. Ultimately, victory is reserved to the truth, and truth is victorious. “And verily Our word went forth of old unto Our Bordmen sent [to warn]. That they verily would be helped. And that Our host, they verily would be the victors.” Sura 38 (Al-saffat), verses 171-3.

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  114. Article Thirty-Five
    Hamas takes a serious look at the defeat of the Crusades at the hand of Saladin the Ayyubid and the rescue of Palestine from their domination; at the defeat of the Tatars at Ein Jalut where their spine was broken by Qutuz and Al-Dhahir Baibars, and the Arab world was rescued from the sweep of the Tatars which ruined all aspects of human civilization. Hamas has learned from these lessons and examples, that the current Zionist invasion had been preceded by a Crusader invasion from the West; and another one, the Tatars, from the East. And exactly as the Muslims had faced those invasions and planned their removal and defeat, they are able to face the Zionist invasion and defeat it. This will not be difficult for Allah if our intentions are pure and our determination is sincere; if the Muslims draw useful lessons from the experiences of the past, and extricate themselves for the vestiges of the [western] ideological onslaught; and if they follow the traditions of Islam.

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  115. Epilogue

    Article Thirty-Six: The Hamas are Soldiers
    The Hamas, while breaking its path, reiterates time and again to all members of our people and the Arab and Islamic peoples, that it does not seek fame for itself nor material gains, or social status. Nor is it directed against any one member of our people in order to compete with him or replace him. There is nothing of that at all. It will never set out against any Muslims or against the non-Muslims who make peace with it, here or anywhere else. It will only be of help to all associations and organizations which act against the Zionist enemy and those who revolve in its orbit. Hamas posits Islam as a way of life, it is its faith and its yardstick for judging. Whoever posits Islam as a way of life, anywhere, and regardless of whether it is an organization, a state, or any other group, Hamas are its soldiers, nothing else. We implore Allah to guide us, to guide through us and to decide between us and our folk with truth. “Our Lord! Decide with truth between us and our folk, for Thou are the best of those who make decisions.” Sura VII (Al-A’raf—the Heights), verse 89. Our last call is: Thanks to Allah, the Lord of the Universe.

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  116. now before you condemn me for posting all this

    please read it and understand

    THIS IS THE HAMAS CHARTER

    this ithe GROUP that the IMAM supports...

    this is a MODERATE MOSLEM

    this IMAM our current government supports.

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  117. Maybe instead of horoscope's and rat's jew hating shit that you allow on this blog do a fucking column on HAMAS

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  118. Do a tread on Iranian threats to Israel

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  119. " Ash said...
    just follow the Quirkster's lead for he is always on topic."


    True enough.

    But the fact is if the management decides to delete a post, while I might ask why I wouldn't be bitching about it a week later.

    The same subject you're crying about being deleted was talked about in full on the next stream.

    Hell, you rant about Bob but he is adult enough to accept that some of his posts might get deleted. As I recall he thanked management for doing it.

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  120. What a thoughtless political creed.

    a woman must go out and fight the enemy even without her husband’s authorization, and a slave without his masters’ permission

    But the women and the slaves do get a little freedom of initiative on one thing.

    The souls of its Jihad fighters will encounter those of all Jihad fighters who have sacrificed their lives in the land

    And all will have a happy homecoming in the heaven of the violent. All we can hope is that there are schisms there, like here.

    Allah is subtle. Aware.

    One can only hope.

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    Allen says true when he says he's always been against censorship.

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  121. hey, I haven't ranted about the deletions. I'm surprised they happened and I suspected that the prime reason was allen's responses. All I wrote that got deleted was that John Bolton was a dick, a big fucking dick. I then mentioned allen peccadillo for things passing through the anus.

    In fact I've stated that I don't even think Bob's ramblings be deleted even though it causes me to scroll and I worry that I might wear out my poor mouse hand. WiO's recent posting are problematic though.

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  122. I'd like a thread on Hamas, and Iran, too.

    Also one on the Idaho Fish and Game Department, though I recognize I'd be the only one interested in it. So forget that idea.

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  123. I then mentioned allen peccadillo for things passing through the anus.

    That may have done it right there, Ash.

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  124. speaking of Bob, the little I've read appears more coherent of late. The wonders of Medication and a good nights sleep?

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  125. yes Bob, I imagine that's what set allen off and led the censor on.

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  127. It's just because I've taken Melody's advice, Ash, and am not worrying any longer about things I cannot change. Like you for instance.

    I knew this wisdom back when I was farming, but had forgotten it.

    As laid back and mellow as I am now, my posts should be less coherent, not more, it's just that I've given up arguing and don't give much of a damn.

    I'm going down to Boise again, to see Othello, in a few days, they have a pretty good acting troupe there.

    Ash your posts are as incoherent as they ever were. And always I fear will be.

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  128. Edwin Booth As Iago

    Iago, now there's a true villain, right up there with Regan and Goneril, without the excuse of much to gain.

    He had no idea why he was such an asshole. He just was, some people are like that.

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  129. hey put that back up there Quirk that was almost a compliment

    same goes for you of course

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  130. It was meant as such Bob.

    Just wasn't sure how you would take it.


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  131. ash states:
    In fact I've stated that I don't even think Bob's ramblings be deleted even though it causes me to scroll and I worry that I might wear out my poor mouse hand. WiO's recent posting are problematic though.

    Go fuck yourself.....

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  132. We were shopping at Win-Co Foods in Moscow the other day, a big market the students shop at a lot, and I noticed this muslim women in her head scarf walking along the required two or three steps behind her husband, she carrying the little one. He'd stop, she'd stop, he'd go, she'd go. So I bagan to wonder, and kinda followed their progress through the store. She didn't seem to have much to say about what was purchased, either. Sure enough, all the way through, and out into the parking lot too, two three steps behind. When school's on, we have quite a few muslims here, mostly at Washington State University.

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  133. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
    So it is with the Muzzies.
    Repent and take your proper place ladies!
    (Trish is on my side:
    She supports the Victory/Dhimmitude Mosque)

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  134. Morgan Stanley Says Government Defaults Inevitable

    Mares said debt as a percentage of gross domestic product is a false indicator of an economy’s health given it doesn’t reflect governments’ available revenue and is “backward- looking.”

    While the U.S. government’s debt is 53 percent of GDP, one of the lowest ratios among developed nations, its debt as a percentage of revenue is 358 percent, one of the highest, the report said.

    Conversely, Italy has one of the highest debt- to-GDP ratios, at 116 percent, yet has a debt-to-revenue ratio of 188, Mares said.

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  135. lordy, I can see it now - "US passes new law: Men and Women must walk abreast of each other of face $500 fine." "It is now ordained, in the US under penalty of Law that Women can become Priests".

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  136. Maybe Quirk could give a reading on Ben Quayle that would explain exactly WHY his looks give us the creeps.

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  137. I'll save the cyber space..

    a must read...

    http://pajamasmedia.com/michaeltotten/2010/08/25/the-perfect-iranian-storm-on-the-horizon/


    But to understand the world we live in?

    here is ONE sentence from one photo: "Hezbollah erected a billboard on the border facing south into Israel showing a severed head being held by its hair. Text in Hebrew says, Sharon, don't forget. Your soldiers are still in Lebanon."

    READ that again please

    Hezbollah, part of the Lebanese Government, supported by Iran and Syria, all THREE UN MEMBERS, have a billboard with a PHOTO of SEVERED HEAD being held up (a dead JEW) and facing the Israeli border...

    and the MODERATE IMAM SUPPORTS Iran & Hamas and such...

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  138. Islamic law enforcement in America

    Black Muslims arrested in store attacks
    Oakland police have urged 4 others to surrender on vandalism charges

    Henry K. Lee, Demian Bulwa and Jim Herron Zamora, Chronicle Staff Writers
    Wednesday, November 30, 2005

    Oakland police arrested two men on felony charges of vandalizing two West Oakland corner markets in attacks in which several men in suits and bow ties demanded that the outlets stop selling liquor to African Americans.

    Both suspects are affiliated with a local religious sect long suspected of using violence and intimidation in its business dealings, police said.

    The men were identified as Yusuf Bey IV, 19, the son of the late Black Muslim leader Yusuf Bey, founder of Your Black Muslim Bakery in North Oakland, and Donald Eugene Cunningham, 73, a bakery associate. Bey and Cunningham surrendered Tuesday at Oakland police headquarters after meeting with police and attorneys.

    The younger Bey was described by a law-enforcement source Tuesday as a rising leader in the independent Black Muslim group, which operates four bakeries, a Muslim school, a security business and an apartment building. He took over following his father's death from colon cancer in 2003.

    The two men were arrested on suspicion of making terrorist threats, felony vandalism, conspiracy and robbery in the attacks Nov. 23 at San Pablo Liquor on San Pablo Avenue and New York Market on Market Street about 12 blocks away, authorities said.

    Yusuf Bey IV was being held in lieu of $200,000 bail at an Oakland jail. Cunningham was being interviewed by police late Tuesday, said Deputy Police Chief Howard Jordan.

    Four other men are being sought on arrest warrants in connection with the vandalism at the two stores, Jordan said. He said authorities had been in contact with the men through intermediaries and urged them to surrender. Their names have not been released.

    Jordan said police were still investigating whether the vandalism was connected to an arson fire that destroyed New York Market early Monday and the reported kidnapping of store owner Abdel "Tony" Hamdan around the time of the blaze.

    Police found Hamdan in the trunk of a car at 1:40 p.m. Monday in the parking lot of a Safeway store in El Cerrito.

    Reached by phone Tuesday, Hamdan said, "Please, right now I want nobody calling. Sir, I got nothing else to say."

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  139. No, Ash, we just deport supporters of Sharia, and return to modernity.

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  140. The San Pablo store's surveillance camera caught a group of about a dozen men in suits and bow ties trashing the store. The group took a shotgun belonging to a store clerk.

    Jordan said the suspects were not affiliated with the Nation of Islam, a national organization led by Louis Farrakhan. Police earlier indicated that the suspects were wearing suits and bow ties consistent with Nation of Islam dress.

    The surveillance video played a key role in the arrests, police said. "The video is very important," said Sgt. Dom Arotzarena.

    When he turned himself in Tuesday afternoon, Yusuf Bey IV was accompanied by his mother, Daulet Bey, who said, "We don't condone what happened. We want to resolve this as quickly as possible."

    The suspect had denied any involvement, telling a local newspaper that he had learned of the vandalism through media reports.

    At the main bakery on San Pablo Avenue on Tuesday, the younger Bey's sister, Jannah Bey, 25, proclaimed the suspects' innocence. She also said she understood the anger toward stores selling liquor to African Americans.

    "The idea was good, but the way it was carried out could have been different," she said, referring to the Nov. 23 vandalism. She said she didn't recognize her brother or anyone else from the surveillance tape.

    She added, "Maybe this will be a wake-up call to the community" with residents realizing that liquor stores in Oakland were "not there to help them."

    She said Bey's group had nothing to do with the arson fire or kidnapping. "Anyone who knows our history ... we don't handle things like that," she said.

    A relative of Cunningham's who would not give her name declined comment when reached by phone Tuesday.

    The leader of a local grocer's group reacted cautiously to the arrests.

    "We're happy that they made these arrests," said Mohamed Saleh Mohamed, president of the Yemenie American Grocers Association, which represents more than 250 liquor stores in Oakland. "It shows a little progress, but we still don't know what's next."

    Mohamed said, "We feel pretty frustrated. We feel very vulnerable right now. The video shows 12 guys. "

    The arrests come amid a power struggle within Yusuf Bey's organization after he died.

    Three members of the group have been victims of violence since his death, including Bey's 23-year-old-son, Antar, who was shot to death Oct. 25 in an attempted carjacking. Antar Bey had been serving as chief executive officer of the Oakland group.

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  141. http://www.nbc4.com/news/9258530/detail.html

    ROCKVILLE, Md. -- Sniper John Allen Muhammad had grandiose plans to create a community of children in Canada who would be trained in weapons and explosives before being sent to terrorize cities and "shut things down," accomplice Lee Boyd Malvo testified Tuesday.

    At the end of an extraordinary day of testimony, Malvo directly confronted Muhammad, whom he once viewed as a father figure.

    "I think he's a coward," Malvo said when asked about his current feelings toward Muhammad. He then turned directly to Muhammad and said, "You took me into your house and you made me a monster."

    Malvo said he falsely took responsibility after his arrest for pulling the trigger in all the sniper killings to protect Muhammad.

    "I would die for Mr. Muhammad at that time," Malvo said.

    Earlier, Malvo testified calmly during Muhammad's second trial related to the October 2002 sniper shootings. Muhammad is on trial on murder charges for six Maryland sniper shootings.

    Malvo said Muhammad devised a two-phase plan to shoot as many as six random people each day for 30 days in the Washington area and then target children and police officers with explosives. They planned to place explosives on school buses in Baltimore, kill a Baltimore police officer and then set off explosives packed with ball bearings at the officer's funeral.

    When Malvo asked Muhammad why, "he said for the sheer terror of it. The worst thing you can do to people is aim at their children," Malvo testified.

    Muhammad described the plans to establish a Canadian commune midway through the sniper spree, Malvo testified. After the Oct. 9, 2002, slaying of Dean Myers in Manassas, Va., Muhammad was upset that the two were not meeting their self-imposed quota of six shootings a day. Malvo said he became upset and refused to talk to Muhammad. At one point, Malvo said he put on headphones, listened to music and refused to acknowledge Muhammad. Muhammad eventually kicked Malvo out of the car and Malvo said he broke down, sobbing uncontrollably. Muhammad later came back for Malvo and detailed plans to use the ransom they planned to get to buy a couple of acres and recruit 140 homeless children to "continue the mission

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  142. That bakery mob has a long history, WIO, but I don't recall the details.
    No doubt Immam Ash supports their right to protest alcohol sales, citing freedom to practice their faith.

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  143. doug, do you support the deportation of Catholics as well?

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  144. Malvo grew up in the Caribbean and was largely abandoned by his parents. He said a few months after meeting Muhammad, he "basically took me under his wing. He began introducing me as his son."

    He said Muhammad introduced him to the Nation of Islam and said he was told that for many incidents in history, "the explanation was that the white man is the devil."

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  145. they can say what they like doug. Whether they can impose their views on others is an entirely different matter.

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  146. Supporting Hamas and/or Iran is against the law of the law.

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  147. Don't like it?

    Change the law...

    But, under the current law, if it could be proven that Obama has had contact with Hamas (as a political leader) he is in violation of the laws of the USA and could be impeached

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  148. bob and ash,

    Yes, whit has ignored it, as he would given my correct assessment of his character.

    As to Quirk, well, given his politcal leanings and feelings, censorship and sucking up comes easily. I imagine childhood was unkind: He strikes me as the kind of little busybody who got slapped around a lot by the jocks in the locker room.

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  149. Police earlier indicated that the suspects were wearing suits and bow ties consistent with Nation of Islam dress.

    I think that's a nice touch. After all, Churchill said, if you're going to kill a man you might as well be polite about it.

    If you're going to trash a store, you might as well dress nicely.

    My Pim van Lommel book, "Consciousness Beyond Life: The Science of the Near Death Experience" has finally come. Nine year study, he did.

    You won't be hearing much from me the rest of the day. If there's something really good in it, I'll report.

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  150. Arizona GOP Morons voted for Quayle over a Black Conservative, among others!

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  151. "He strikes me as the kind of little busybody who got slapped around a lot by the jocks in the locker room"
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    To bad they didn't have Flip Cams back then, that would be great fun to watch.

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  152. Progressive Pals and Free Speech:

    Paypal Cuts off Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs for ''hate''

    Reaganite has the scoop on the story that broke last night, apparently Paypal sent Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs fame a notice that they are shutting her account down due to "hate":

    Paypal has taken on a political agenda apparently... one where truth is now the new "hate"
    xxx
    Pamela Gellar has been told that her account will be closed if she does not remove the PP app from her famed Atlas Shrugs political blog- named of-course for Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged". The site is based out of NYC, and if you're not familar has a particular focus on fighting terrorism and illegal immigration.

    Reaganite has more on the story, be sure to read the rest. My take is this. Paypal is privately owned therefore they should be free to service, or not, any customer. However, if Paypal is to use the so-called "hate" card against sites like Pamela Geller and Atlas Shrugs then why do they partner up with a radical site Revolution Muslim.com (just as an example)? Revolution Muslim.com is the site that ran the not-so-veiled threat against the lives of South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone and as you can clearly see their is the Paypal widget (screenshot, bottom left):

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  153. Doug,

    Re: locker room antics and the organ grinder's monkey

    I wouldn't have mentioned the little fellow had he remained out of my business. After all, I was speaking to bob and ash. And since when does whit need someone to do his dirty work?

    For reasons known only to himself, he has given me a free ride in his noggin. It's not like I'm the infamous "Dr. Hiss", here to harvest his brain. Nope, proctology has never been my thing.

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  154. Whit is on record as a constant supporter of Israel.

    Whit also thinks Bolton is a great guy. Those who considered Bolton a dick included me, Rufus, and Ash. On streams prior to and subsequent to the one in question Whit defended Bolton. In fact, he defended him against me on a couple of posts.

    With regard to Bolton, Whit in fact supports the opinion of his most vigorous critic here today.
    Of course, the most vigorous critic views himself as the perpetual victim; therefore, even though Ash' posts were also pulled, the perpetual victim knows that this was all about him.

    Someone's out to get him. Again.


    Hilarious.

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  155. Supporting Supporters of Sharia

    Jacobson hung around at the Ground Zero mosque meetings with Islamic supremacist and hate sponsor Zead Ramadan. It looks as if Ramadan and Sharif El-Gamal played Jacobson like a dhimmi fiddle (not like the Jewish musicians who played for the nazis; they were forced. This clown dances willingly). The first couple of pages are a keyster kissing homage to Sharif El-Gamal. It is so sticky sweet, it borders on embarrassing for Mark, but not so when he comes to scribbling about Spencer and me.

    I love the Cardinal Richelieu -- though he ain't my Cardinal. He's the Pope.

    Muhammad Come to Manhattan New York Magazine

    Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer have been the leading voices against what has been rebranded (by them) as “the Islamic Supremacist Mega-Mosque at Ground Zero.” Co-founders and directors of SIOA, or Stop Islamization of America—the logo, the first two letters sitting like building blocks on top of the second two, with the I leaning at a 45-degree angle, is apparently modeled after the famous LOVE postage stamp—Geller and Spencer are usually thought of as a dual entry. Most of the face time goes to Geller, a fit-looking, copiously coiffed 51-year-old former associate publisher of the New York Observer, whose blog Atlas Shrugs (recently rated No. 16 among conservative blogs, right behind Michelle Malkin and ahead of Dick Morris) features a golden-hued nude balancing the Ayn Randian planet above the city skyline. With her you-go-girl attitude, Geller has basically become the Fox News expert correspondent on Islamic affairs, My Cousin Vinny division. Spencer, in his late forties, bearded and bookish-looking, with more than twenty years in the roiling think tanks that produce the acolytes of people like Daniel Pipes and David Horowitz, is generally thought of as Geller’s Cardinal Richelieu factoid-provider. After a number of years of blogging away at what they see to be the ingress of Muslim culture (honor killings, beheadings) and Sharia law in this country, Geller and Spencer jumped on the mosque early and in what can only be called a major-league propaganda score and have more or less owned the story ever since, establishing much of the opposition talking (yelling) points:

    The location is in keeping with the Islamic practice of erecting “victory mosques” on the sites of their war triumphs, Imam Feisal’s alleged links to “radicals” and refusal to label Hamas a terror group, along with, of course, the money—where is the $100 million to build the mosque coming from? What Wahhabi sheikh, what mysterious cave dweller?

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  156. Thanks, Melody.

    I don't think Quirk should be allowed to write the Scorpio post.

    I think we should hand that one to bob.

    Scorpio needs the Shakespeare treatment.

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  157. To bad they didn't have Flip Cams back then, that would be great fun to watch.

    Dougo, have a couple extra pino coladas today?

    What, you don't have Trish to pick on and feeling a little bored?

    I was going to cut the lawn but I can spend an hour or so with you if you'd like.


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  158. Trish you are always showing up at the most inopportune moments.


    :)


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  159. Nothing?

    Better cut that lawn.


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  160. I'll add it to my list of self-improvements, however:

    Be more opportune.

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  161. gee Doug et al, I guess this headline will warm your cold heart:

    NYC cabbie asked if he’s Muslim, then stabbed


    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/americas/nyc-cabbie-asked-if-hes-muslim-then-stabbed/article1684818/



    I guess what'll get you mad, though, will be the fact that the guy was arrested for doing so.

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  162. Since Iraq was attacked and occupied after having disarmed, other states that fear a U.S. attack have a powerful incentive to acquire nuclear weapons to deter it.

    ?

    Which alternate universe are you dwelling in today, Ash?

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  163. Look at it from their view Linear - the US has not, ever, attacked a nuclear armed state - not even North Korea.

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  164. Quirk, Quirk, Quirk...talking of alternate realities...

    What on earth have Bolton and Israel to do with Whit's censorship of my opinion?

    I love chocolate chip cookies, as well whit may; and...?

    Gracious, Man, the Leader loved dogs...and?

    It is even possible that you and I might enjoy coitus, although I doubt it...and?

    In the past tense of Indo-European languages, Whit got me; therefore, my complaint is not that he is out to get me, as any fool could tell.

    But you've got me burrowed into that gray matter and those little gray cells are all fired up...talking about physical comedy...spasmo-plasmo :)

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  165. I don't know what gave you the idea that I harbor an animus toward cabbies, Ash.

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  166. Why would any of my posts be taken down?

    No, well very little, profanity. No lack of respect for the other posters.

    A few nick names tossed around. That bothers boob.

    An occasional misspelling of Isreal. Often done intentionally, but even so, that is of little consequence.

    No, allen dislikes the posts because they do not toe the Zionist line. Debunking their carefully constructed pillars of propaganda.

    The truth, the Israeli have killed over a million Jews, they have committed infanticide on a scale beyond that ever even imagined by King Harrod.

    What has Iran done that even approaches such barbarity and crimes against the humanity of so many.

    A million victims of infanticide, in Israel.

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  167. My quote of your comment appears to be your quote of someone else. Never the less, having put it up, you own it.

    The portion quoted conflates a risible misstatement of fact with a truism.

    Anyone taking your commentary seriously, all two or three of them, would also, no doubt, enjoy Coast-to-Coast AM.

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    For the record, I also am a long time fan of John Bolton. His recent notoriety regarding that little Russian project down near the gulf is puzzling. I suspect it to be part of a larger strategy, although if so, it's not characteristic of him. Thereby making the strategy more effective.

    Mark Levin is another favorite of mine, along with Joe Pesci and Rush.

    Excuse me while I go read the Michael Totten link offered by WiO. Totten is another favorite.

    chow

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  168. Infanticide is the practice of intentionally killing an infant. Often it is the mother who commits the act, but criminology recognizes various forms of non-maternal child murder. In many past societies, certain forms of infanticide were considered permissible. Female infanticide is more common than the killing of male offspring due to sex-selective infanticide.
    In the United Kingdom, the Infanticide Act defines "infanticide" as a specific crime equivalent to manslaughter that can only be committed by the mother intentionally killing her own baby during the first twelve months of its life; in other cultures, the concept of infanticide includes the intentional killing of children older than twelve months. This article addresses the practice of infanticide within multiple cultural and historical contexts.


    Rat makes the baiting charge:

    "A million victims of infanticide, in Israel."


    Once again the Jew hating, zionist hating, Israel hating Rat has shown his hand...

    From the start to the finish of this thread, the rat PROVES that he is a NAZI in mind & spirit.

    One can only hope that a very large rock finds his head to rest on soon.

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  169. Rat's posts should never be taken down. The hat alone is worth a smile. And we're all, most of us, anyhow, adults, so a little perverse satire from him just serves to lighten the daily drudgery.

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  171. ha ha ha ha ha

    tee hee tee hee

    Ash, it looks like the perp was one of yours.

    ha ha ha
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    Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: if you are alive, it isn't.
    Richard Bach

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    I like Bolton, too.

    Back to my book.

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  172. It doesn't really matter whether he is 'one of mine or one of your's', but rather, in your world, it is ok to stab a cabbie, or anyone, because he admits to being a Muslim. right?

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  173. More to the point, I oppose stabbing Cabbies of any faith.

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  174. Cabbies are Bridge Builders par excellence.

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  176. "You seem to have me mixed with one of your friends down in Atlanta."

    I travel a good bit and enjoy Atlanta. If you ever visit I suggest checking out a pub called Brickstore in Decatur; probably about 5-6 miles from CNN center which is downtown.

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  177. It is even possible that you and I might enjoy coitus, although I doubt it...and?

    Sorry, Allen.

    You seem to have me mixed up with one of your friends down in Atlanta.

    I'm afraid I don't swing that way.

    Try Al-Anon.


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  178. Sorry Elijah,

    I reposted.

    There are those here who put a great deal of emphasis on spelling and grammar.

    Just trying to clean it up a bit.

    Thanks for the recommendation. I'm sure Atlanta is a great city; however, I suspect all I will see of it in the near future is the airplane terminal if I don't get a direct flight to Florida.


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  179. Altitude in SanDiego and the Red Room in San Francisco are also good i you like drinking

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  180. My Pim van Lommel book, "Consciousness Beyond Life: The Science of the Near Death Experience" has finally come. Nine year study, he did.

    All of it based on testimony about interior experiences. About as meaningful as a dream interpretation "study".

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  181. Not at all, dear. Mostly the opposite, in fact.

    If your lady Blackmore were right, all cardiac arrest folk should have such an experience, but in fact only a minority do. Therein lies a mystery.

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  182. The Zionists are at it again.

    Little mention, none really, of the high levels of infanticide that are the Hallmark of the "Civilization" that wi"o" and allen both claim is a Jewish invention.

    The United States still lags behind, murdering infants at about half the rate that the Israelis propagate. US barbarism is not as acute, but does rock steady, at about a million babies flushed as 'tissue mass', each year.

    Denial of humanity, another hallmark of the "Civilization" the Zionists tout as their creation.

    It is not life that those Israeli cherish, it is land and power. Water too.
    Material things, that is the measure they want us to measure them by, not the quality of life.

    No, life is of little import to them, or they'd have another million Israelis, born on that Arabian land that they covet.

    The truth is there, to be seen.

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  183. The reasons cited against the acceptance of inexplicable phenomena were always emotional reasons, such as the fear that the beauty and efficiency of the scientific system would suffer. These are entirely unscientific and irrational grounds resulting from inadequate reflection.

    Frederik van Eeden

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  184. ...
    These are entirely unscientific and irrational grounds resulting from inadequate reflection.

    Frederik van Eeden


    boob supplies us the perfect example of his quote, his denial of DNA as scientific evidence with regards genealogy.

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  185. I see the learned man in what you say!
    What you don't touch, for you lies miles away;
    What you don't grasp, is wholly lost to you:
    What you don't reckon, you believe not true;
    What you don't weigh, that has for you no weight;
    What you don't coin, you're sure is counterfeit.


    Goethe, Faust II

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  186. Goddamn you're an idiot rat. If the DNA says Hitler may have had some Jewish blood he probably did. I never said anything else.

    Having violated my own rule gainst speaking to rat, I go back to my interesting book, vowing to never do so again.

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  187. The easiest way for me to understand a Hitler is to think of him as inhabited by a strong evil spirit, but that's just the way I personally look at things.

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  188. Bob: If your lady Blackmore were right, all cardiac arrest folk should have such an experience, but in fact only a minority do. Therein lies a mystery

    Death is defined as the irreversible cessation of life. No one has ever taken a peek on the "Other Side" and come back to report on conditions there, by definition. As for "near death" experiences, we've all had those. When I was a a wee lass I was often whupped to within an inch of my life.

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  189. Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.

    Taken from: All's Well That Ends Well

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  190. Letterman on Obama: "He’ll have plenty of time for vacations after his one term is up.”

    Hee hee!

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  191. It's enough to allow Rat to post for all to see...

    He is a Nazi in spirit and mind, and to his own credit, in deed...

    He has murdered, he has admitted...

    Let his words stand, he is what most of the world try not to be.

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  192. At least DR doesn't repost reams of Hamas-penned crap in post after post. Brevity is the soul of whit.

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