To maintain a credible constitutional democracy, it is necessary to have a slow and difficult procedure to change the constitution, otherwise you have a popular referendum, pack the ballot box and mob rule. The military in Honduras was right to have removed the Hugolito, Zelaya, and stop his Venezuelan mime. Of course our Acornated Master and Ruler objects. No shock there, as he is busy larding the electorate for his next election ascension.
Watch Obama go hard ass on this one to really make his lefty bona fides.
Dos amigos, Chavez y Zelaya. Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez (L) is embraced by his Honduran counterpart Manuel Zelaya upon his arrival at the Honduran Air Force base in south Tegucigalpa, 15 January, 2008. Chavez was in Honduras on an official visit to meet Honduran president Manuel Zelaya to sign a subsidized oil supply agreement between Honduras and Petrocaribe. No doubt they shared their thoughts and theories on constitutional democracy.______________________
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ReplyDeleteThere is one small problem. Zelaya's removal from office was precipitated by his own illegal actions and attempts to undermine his nation's fragile democracy. Granted, any time a Latin American army takes a president into custody we hearken back to simpler times when generals hand picked presidents and if they got out of line, they lost their jobs, if not their lives. This situation is far more complex. And while Zelaya's ouster is an extreme reaction, the president's own moves are far more injurious to real democracy than those that the military, the Honduran attorney general, and supreme court took in trying to enforce the law.
The Obama administration cannot hold itself back from jumping into the fray, with Secretary of State Clinton parroting Chavez, Daniel Ortega and the Castro regime in demanding that their ally be restored to power. We are truly judged by the company we keep...
American Thinker.
Ash?
...The facts of this situation point to a president who abused his power, sought to circumvent the nation's constitution, ignored the ruling of the courts and incited lawlessness. The country's fledgling democratic institutions provided checks and balances to the president's power and stood up for the rule of law. In a region with a long history of left and right coups and iron-fisted rule, the United States should applaud the functionality of Honduras's government.
ReplyDeleteSadly, the knee-jerk reaction in Washington has been to follow the lead of Chavez, Castro and Ortega, who will now, apparently call the tune in our Latin American policy.
He's NOT Meddling though, just like he does NOT meddle with Israel.
ReplyDeleteer I mean he does not meddle with Iran, Venezuela, Honduras, Cuba, and etc.
Michael Jackson will not be cremated. Since he's mostly plastic he will instead be melted down and molded into Legos.
ReplyDeleteThis so that kids can play with him for a change...
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ReplyDeleteTo become the center of his thoughts. It's Zorro Mastery.
There are few Muslims in Honduras, so Obama's outreach to the Religion of Peace had little likely impact in Honduras. Unlike the electoral weight it carried had in Lebanon and Iran.
But now, there are those that deny the US has an impact, in the whirled. Which may be the case, exemplified by the failure of the NPT to even slowdown the spread of rouge nuclear nations.
The WSJ, via Small Wars Journal
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Pakistan's battle against the Taliban widened to the North Waziristan tribal region after fighters loyal to a local militant commander killed 23 soldiers in an ambush on an army convoy in apparent retaliation for recent US drone attacks. The latest clash ended a local peace deal with the government and opened a new front for an already-stretched Pakistani military in the region, which US officials say is the center of Taliban activities in Pakistan and of al Qaeda. Thousands of Pakistani troops already are battling Taliban militants in the Swat Valley near Islamabad, the capital, and in the South Waziristan tribal area. On Sunday evening, militants armed with rocket launchers and automatic weapons struck an army convoy a few miles from the Afghan border. At least four officers were among the 23 soldiers killed, according to security officials. Local civilian and military officials said as many as 35 soldiers were wounded, many of them critically, in one of the most devastating militant attacks on Pakistan's military in recent years.
One fellow understands the importance of declaring victory, but he is no longer in the employ of the US miltary.
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ReplyDeleteThe struggle against chavismo has never been about left-right politics. It is about defending the independence of institutions that keep presidents from becoming dictators. This crisis clearly delineates the problem. In failing to come to the aid of checks and balances, Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Insulza expose their true colors.
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By Jeff Gerth and Brady Dennis
ProPublica and Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, June 29, 2009.
General Electric, the world's largest industrial company, has quietly become the biggest beneficiary of one of the government's key rescue programs for banks.
At the same time, GE has avoided many of the restrictions facing other financial giants getting help from the government.
The company did not initially qualify for the program, under which the government sought to unfreeze credit markets by guaranteeing debt sold by banking firms. But regulators soon loosened the eligibility requirements, in part because of behind-the-scenes appeals from GE.
As a result, GE has joined major banks collectively saving billions of dollars by raising money for their operations at lower interest rates. Public records show that GE Capital, the company's massive financing arm, has issued nearly a quarter of the $340 billion in debt backed by the program, which is known as the Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program, or TLGP. The government's actions have been "powerful and helpful" to the company, GE chief executive Jeffrey Immelt acknowledged in December.
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See how effective the coverage of Team Obamamerica, at MSNBC, has been, for GE.
NBC is no longer a credible news source. It is an arm of the Democratic party in all but name and organization chart.
ReplyDeleteWe've returned to the historic norm, duece. The Press has always been partisan, in the US.
ReplyDeleteThe imagery of 'balanced reporting', another post WWII myth that has been disproven by reality.
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You have to slog thru the 13 or so pics to see all the LAUSD Action.
In WWII,
ReplyDeleteThe Press was not universally against the USA.
The Press did not disclose secrets harmful to the USA.
The Press did not hate everything the USA stands for, and did not root for our defeat.
Mr. Moral Equivalency is wrong again.
Nor did JFK = Obama, no matter how many chicks he fucked, no matter how incompetent he might have been fighting for this country or as POTUS.
ReplyDeleteHe, like LBJ and HW Bush, loved this country.
Obama does not.
He, like Reagan, was a fiscal conservative, as compared to W, and esp as compared to the Marxist Tyrant in office.
Mr. Moral Equivalency is wrong again.
A question for Mr. Moral Equivalency:
ReplyDeleteI must have forgotten, but what is your response, 'Rat to the fact that Jews have been ethnically cleansed from all the states that refused to harbor the sainted Palis?
Does that not count for something in the Moral Equation?
I know it has been asked before, but I either was not listening, or the answer was such BS that my Pure Mind Filter eliminated it.
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ReplyDeleteJFK was a hawk.
ReplyDeleteBHO roots for our enemies.
BHO roots for tyrants.
BHO hates freedom for anyone but BHO.
"Profiles in Courage"
ReplyDeleteand
BHO is a contradiction in terms.
Mel Zelaya should have been shot on site....
ReplyDeleteThen the ONE could bring him back to life and prove he is the messiah
BHO MEDDLES in Israel's affairs, Honduras's affairs...
ReplyDeleteNorth Korea? Iran? Cuba? Hamas? He respects...
Christ, bob, d'ya think maybe, just maybe, you could have left a little note on the Bar's sign-out board, informing the regulars of the nature of your departure and of your estimated return - so that they weren't consumed with worry or, on the other hand, wrongly but gleefully anticipating the related disappearance of Chuckie. (Ash having declined last year to serve the greater good by heading to the "Sunshine? You Don't Know What Sunshine Is, Friend" State, locating and bundling him into the trunk, and thusly driving around for a week or so. The local papers would report, "Notorious Asshole Goes Missing. More to Follow?" Not to say that you've disappointed, bob, by failing to undertake a noble but criminal act. Sometimes a straightforward road trip not involving kidnap and probable 2nd degree manslaughter is the best one can do to restore a little balance in the universe, letting the hungry soul feast on the endlessly varied beauty that is America outside its suburbs. Without having to listen to Chuckie kicking around furiously in the trunk.)
ReplyDeleteAnd speaking of restoring a little balance to the universe by feeding the hungry soul, I did just that this long weekend and so fortified myself for the actual work to follow.
ReplyDeleteBeen tryin' to post all week, My Lady, damn motels got us shut down.
ReplyDeleteHad a really good trip, and we're on the road tomorrow, again.
I love driving along with my wife. We do have a great time.
It's still is a beautiful country, most of it, Trish.
Puts a smile on my face.
And my wife, she always cracks a joke or two, as we go.
It's fun.
It's fun.
ReplyDeleteWhen we go, she puts her hair up a certain way, she has her glasses, and, her field bird watching glasses, her map, her notebook, her cell phone, now she's got her pistol and Concealed Carry Permit.
Get to these motel rooms, her libido is up, too.
She's a hell of a lot of fun to be around, truth to tell.
Always optimistic, and, ready to go.
Cracking jokes.
Got her credit cards, and she's willing to swipe, and some cash in her purse too.
I love my wife.
And, she has a sidelong pickeral smile, with a hint of the devil in it.
ReplyDeleteDon't count that out.
Good for you, bob. Awfully glad to hear it.
ReplyDelete(Hotel/motel rooms. What is it about hotel/motel rooms? It's certainly not the often ugly bedspread and atrocious art. : ) )
Our fantasy road trip, and we've made an awful lot of them, is the Alaska Hwy to Baja. There may be no slow boat home from the good nation of Colombia - seeing how we'll be cruising vicariously through our daughter - but that excellent drive remains a light at the end of our tunnel. Finding the time to do it may take a few more years still.
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ReplyDeleteMel Zelaya should have been shot on site....
ReplyDeleteThen the ONE could bring him back to life and prove he is the messiah
It's comments like this that I like the Jewish people.
Really, they should learn from other western governments that "exile" leftists and jihadists...
ReplyDeletethey come back to do more crimes...
he should have been shot by the Government of Hondurans PERIOD.
Last I checked treason & sedition were a capital offense....
ReplyDeleteIt's a beautiful evening.
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ReplyDeletejust got the emails bob, don't need anything. enjoy your roadtrip. I will have to content myself with traveling via Google streetview. I too have been traveling around Idaho these past few days.
ReplyDeleteOp-Ed - The Winner in Honduras - Chávez - NYTimes.com
ReplyDeleteThis is not what Honduras’s establishment, horrified by Mr. Chávez’s increasing influence, intended when it got rid of Mr. Zelaya. It is also a pretty surreal turn of events for those who followed the career of the deposed president. A member of Honduras’s landed oligarchy, Mr. Zelaya came to power in 2006 as the leader of the Liberal Party, a center-right organization. He was a product of the establishment: an heir to the family fortune, he had devoted decades to his agriculture and forestry enterprises, supported the Central America Free Trade Agreement with the United States, and ran for president on a conservative platform, promising to be tough on crime and to cut the budget.
Around halfway into his term, however, Mr. Zelaya had an apparent ideological epiphany and became an admirer of Mr. Chávez. He signed a deal for a generous oil subsidy from Venezuela; last year he incorporated Honduras into the Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas. Soon enough, power went to his head.
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Only an Oblique reference to Our Messiah:
"Across the Spanish-language news media, the recurring image of the last two days has been that of Mr. Chávez and his allies working furiously for Honduran democracy. The United States’ more measured response,"
The freighter being tailed by the USS John McCain is hightailing it back to North Korea. I imagine this was preceded by a little air bubble in the natural gas pipe from China to Pyongyong, just enough to make the needle twitch. And I imagine THAT was preceded by a State communique to China saying that the United States looks forward to negotiating with North Korea to make the entire Korean peninsula nuclear free just as soon as we put back the warheads that we unilaterally removed from South Korea in, as it turns out now, a clearly misguided act of good faith.
ReplyDeleteWe stashed them everywhere.
ReplyDeleteBrought a kind of seriousness to bear not matched by a Teleprompter.
Fred dead @ 54.
ReplyDeleteA lot of lessons about bumps in the head lately.
If I live to be 80, I won't know as much as he did in some areas.
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I like what "Tom" posted @ neo neo:
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May God bless and keep him."
I deplore those nations, doug, that do not provide equal rights for all their residents.
ReplyDeleteI think that most all the governments of most all the countries in the whirled are deplorable.
For one reason or another.
In regards the US, you continue to talk about the men, while I speak of the institutions of power, which transcend the men that hold the office, of President.
The President = The President
Like it or not, so there is that equivalency, always will be.
One could try to equate the Bay of Pigs to the demonstrations that followed the Iranian election, but the situation in Iran is more favorable to US, post protest, than after JFK's fiasco at the Bay of Pigs, in Cuba.
The nuke tipped Cuban based Soviet missiles were still in the future, after the BoP.
Even if the Iranians can develop a nuclear warhead, they'd be hard pressed to hit US.
They did not start the nuclear arms race in the Middle East, in fact they lag far behind the others in the region that have already armed up all around them, to the north, west and east.
There is an equivalency there, too.
Lack of complying with IAEA standards, by any and all of the nuclear capable counties of the region is destabilizing to the whirled at large.
But there is little doubt that JFK would have supported the Honduran Supreme Court and Legislature in their actions, based upon Senor Zelaya's political leanings, at present.
ReplyDeleteThe last Coup that the US publicly supported, was a disaster for US interests.
ReplyDeleteCouldn't even keep Venezuela together.
GW Bush being no JFK, either.
"In regards the US, you continue to talk about the men, while I speak of the institutions of power, which transcend the men that hold the office, of President."
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Hugo and Obama provide proof to the contrary, excercising powers beyond their offices.
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I think you skirt the issue of Jews being excluded throughout the region, as well as the overt calls for their elimination by their neigbors.
Important variables in the equation imo.
I discount the words of the powerless, doug.
ReplyDeleteEmpty threats are just that, empty rhetoric. Scaring the good folk on both sides, of the boogieman, just across the fence.
We and the Israeli call for "Regime Change", in Iran. Which to that regime is just another euphemism for "Wiping off the Map".
Rhetoric that inflames the passions, on both sides.
But not followed through on.
It's a question of where to start.
ReplyDelete...you continue to talk about the men, while I speak of the institutions of power, which transcend the men...
A respected boss once told me he'd never spoken to an agency or organization, he'd always spoken to men. Insert institution for agency. The institution of power. Controlled by a man. Put a face on the faceless, pull away the curtain and expose the man pulling the levers of power.
...One could try to equate the Bay of Pigs to the demonstrations that followed the Iranian election...
Yes. One could. But not if he had any respect for his audience or himself. I'm inclined to think you're running on fumes with your narrative.
I think not, lineman, about the narrative.
ReplyDeleteThose countries that do not support the NPT are outside the norm of civilized countries. The US, by allying with those rouges, endorses and supports the concept of nuclear proliferation.
There is an equivalency amongst them, sure as shootin'.
As for Iran, the US policy of sanctions leading to revolution and regime or even policy change, seems to have come up a crapper.
Perhaps the long term the results of a continued moderate US foreign policy will bear fruit, maybe not.
Depends, alot, on whether the center holds in Iraq.
Do they still use the rial in Basra, to bribe members of the Iraqi government, or has the dinar become the currency of choice?
That is also the case, lineman, that Mr Bolton made concerning the Foreign Service. That the US diplomats represented their own interests, more than that of the United States.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that is true, but Obama has no power, without the Presidency.
No more than Mel Zelaya has, today.
In that, Mel and George W. share an equivalency. They are powerless observers of the international scene.
I'd venture that your respected boss would not have called on those men he spoke to, at the institution, agency or organization, if they were not at or connected with that institution, agency or organization.
And it is also true that those men were bound by the rules, policies and cultural processes of their respective institution, agency or organization.
No one calls on GWB to find out what the US going to do about Honduras and the regime change, there. Or Iran and its' evolution.
No. His point was it made no sense to rail against the institution when it was a human responsible. Just as it doesn't serve to fawn over an individual's policy just because it comes at you with the authority of his office behind it. Individuals can be wrong. That doesn't necessarily diminish the institutions they purport to represent. The bad actors will hopefully have short tenure, but not if all the unwashed bow and scrape before them just because of their lofty station, and because some cunning linguists can spin a good fable.
ReplyDeleteTo say he wouldn't have been dealing with "them," if they didn't have connection to the institution?
What's that supposed to mean? Are you lost?
What it is supposed to mean, lineman, us that every President is accused of abusing the power of the office, by their political opponents.
ReplyDeleteThe power is in the institution, not in the men, or GHW Bush would still be in the loop, not jumping out of airplanes.
If you want to address the abuses of power, you go to the source of the power, to create the reforms, not the current representative of the power.
Or the truth becomes evident. It is not the power that you all think is need of reform, but the men that wield it.
My position is that all men are flawed and the institutions need to be reformed to reflect that reality.
Checks and Balances, that's what it was called in Civics class. That and the concept of limited and specified power and authority as well as responsibilty.
We have left that concept, behind.
No matter who is elected, next, both the abuse of power and the abdication of responsibilty will continue across the width and breadth of the Federal government.
If the institutions are not reformed.
We have had many elections and the leviathan lumbers on, with little change in course or speed.
ReplyDeleteThe differences are in the rhetoric, not the behaviours.
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Alex is a legend.
Got started catering meals for Braccero Farm Workers.
Eventually made a fortune in real estate development, I think.
Owned the San Diego Chargers
Legendary Philanthropist.
"What's that supposed to mean? Are you lost?"
ReplyDelete---
No
He's as FOS as a Christmas Turkey.
You've turned yourself into a joke here, 'Rat.
ReplyDeleteMaybe you should run for South Carolina Governor?
ReplyDelete"If the institutions are not reformed."
ReplyDelete---
What reforms are needed, Sage?
Federalism and Localism is my prescription.
ReplyDelete...but big O's DC is much too powerfull to allow that.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention the Supremes.
Sanford is the most pathetic POS politician in my lifetime.
ReplyDelete(so I retract my comparison, 'Rat)
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