The White House announced that it would no longer use the phrase "war on terror."
One wonders how The White House word merchants who now use the catchy phrase, "overseas contingency operations," would describe a seventeen year old girl being humiliated and beaten in the street by an Islamic thug. Perhaps "attitude adjustment."
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Taliban Lash 17 Year Old Girl
Times on line
This grainy footage appears to show a 17-year-old girl being beaten by Islamic radicals in Pakistan’s northwestern region of Swat, where Sharia law was introduced after the government reached a truce with the Taleban in February.
A local Taleban commander in the militant stronghold of Matta, 25 miles from the regional capital, Mingora, ordered the girl to be flogged a week ago after accusing her of adultery, according to local reporters.
But some residents of Matta have accused the commander of ordering the beating to get revenge after the girl refused to accept his proposal of marriage, the reporters told The Times.
“Please! Enough! Enough!” the girl is heard crying in Pashtu, the language of the tribes who dominate northwestern Pakistan – now the main hub of Taleban and al-Qaeda activity.
At another point, she cries: “I am repenting, my father is repenting what I have done, my grandmother is repenting what I have done...”
The man flogging her is also heard abusing his colleague as he struggles to hold her down and stop her covering her backside with her hands.
“You should hold her tightly so she doesn’t move,” he is heard saying.
President Zardari of Pakistan insists that the truce was made with “moderates” in the region and his officials have even held it up as a model for other parts of Pakistan’s troubled northwest, which borders Afghanistan.
The deal was agreed with Sufi Mohammed, the leader of an outlawed Islamic movement who was recently released after six years in jail for leading thousands of his supporters to Afghanistan to fight American forces in 2001.
He is the father-in-law of Mullah Fazlullah, the 33-year-old cleric who leads the Pakistani Taleban in Swat and is known for propagating his strict interpretation of Islam through pirate FM radio broadcasts.
Pakistani officials argue that many residents of the Swat Valley, which only became part of Pakistan in 1969, have long demanded Sharia law because of the weakness of the secular state judicial system.
However, this footage appears to back up reports from many local residents that the men who have over-run Swat are no more moderate than the Taleban government that ruled Afghanistan until 2001.
It is also likely to reinforce fears that the militants are now using Swat, which is just 100 miles from the Pakistani capital, as a base to spread their ideology and launch terrorist attacks deeper within Pakistan.
Dont ya just love Shria?
ReplyDeleteFor all of those seeking to talk to "moderate" taliban?
hope it's your daughters, mothers, sisters & wives being beaten....
not mine...
This will be happening all over the world until the world is honest enough to say...
Islam is full of shit....
Dont like my bigotry? Then march, protest & reform...
(CNN) — Former House speaker Newt Gingrich is warning of a third party mutiny in 2012 if Republicans don’t figure out a way to shape up.
ReplyDelete“If the Republicans can’t break out of being the right wing party of big government, then I think you would see a third party movement in 2012,” Gingrich said Tuesday. The speech, to a group of students at the College of the Ozarks in Missouri, was recorded by Springfield TV station KY3.
But Gingrich, bemoaning President Barack Obama’s “monstrosity of a budget,” acknowledged that Republicans are partially to blame for the escalation in federal spending.
"Remember, everything Obama’s doing, Bush started last year,” he said. “If you’re going to talk about big spending, the mistakes of the Bush administration last year are fully as bad as the mistakes of Obama’s first two, three months.”
Gingrich told the students that the current governmental system “is so sick, so out of touch and so arrogant that you’re going to have a nationwide rebellion at the polls of people in both parties who are just fed up.”
“You can do a Facebook page, you can Twitter,” he said. “I Twitter right now and I think we’re at like, I don’t know, 18,000 or 20,000 thousand people that follow my Twitter, which I have to say I think is nuts. But there are ways to communicate, you’re not trapped by CBS news.”
Gingrich has repeatedly said that he will decide in early 2011 whether he plans to seek the White House in 2012.
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And this would be a bad thing?
The Pubs continue to demostrate an inability to learn.
ReplyDeleteObama's own Justice Dept ruled the DC Statehood Plan was Unconstitutional, but that has been swept away by none other than Eric Holder.
Orin Hatch Supported it!
Brain Dead Lifers.
Colorado professor wins wrongful-termination suit
ReplyDeleteWard Churchill's 'little Eichmanns' reference to victims of 9/11 started a storm that led to his firing.
Reporting from Boulder, Colo. -- The University of Colorado professor who likened 9/11 victims to a Nazi leader was fired in retaliation for his controversial remarks, a Denver jury ruled Thursday.
Jurors in the wrongful-termination lawsuit filed by Ward L. Churchill agreed with the embattled professor's contention that he was the victim of a "howling mob," not the perpetrator of academic misconduct.
Ward Chuchill, David LaneHowever, they awarded him only $1 in damages, an amount Churchill dismissed after the verdict as unimportant.
"What's next for me? Reinstatement, of course," Churchill said at a televised news conference outside the courtroom. "I didn't ask for money. I asked for justice."
It's up to Chief Denver District Judge Larry Naves to decide whether to return Churchill, 61, to his $96,392-per-year job as a professor of ethnic studies at the Boulder campus. The judge also will determine whether the university must pay his legal fees.\
Churchill's attorney, David Lane, said the verdict represented a victory "for the 1st Amendment and academic freedom."
"We've never argued the fact that [the 9/11 essay] is what started this ball rolling," said Ken McConnellogue, spokesman for the University of Colorado system.
But Churchill was fired for academic misconduct uncovered in the aftermath of the essay's publication, he said.
"We're certainly disappointed in the decision, but it doesn't change the fact that 20 of his peers found he engaged in plagiarism and academic dishonesty."
McConnellogue said the university has not decided whether it will appeal.
- Antelope Valley California Poppy Reserve -
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Pygmy-leaved lupine blooms alongside a California poppy.
ReplyDeleteWe had the full size model, much more impressive.
It's in very poor taste to embarass us by pointing out the shortcomings of our future Afghani allies.
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That's not a flogging, that's a spanking, I got those all the time. A flogging is when the last six inches of a bullwhip rips open the skin on your bare back about forty times.
ReplyDeleteWhit, they aren't our "future Afghan allies" they are our CURRENT Afghan allies - ref. Karzai signs "rape law"
ReplyDeleteReminds me of seeing Musharaff on a The Daily Show interview where he tried to explain that the Taliban were not separate from the people of Wazaristan, they ARE the people.
Blogger Xena said...
"Sam, 2 months, 37 shootings, 17 killed in Vancouver BC. Open air shootings in public just like in the Dirty Harry movies. How's that gun control working out for them?"
Yeah, gun control with that giant 'free market' arms bazaar just a few miles to the south where happiness truly is a warm gun...
Ash: Yeah, gun control with that giant 'free market' arms bazaar just a few miles to the south where happiness truly is a warm gun...
ReplyDeleteA few miles south of Vancouver is the workers' paradise known as Seattle, where Commissar Nickels has decreed that public places in the city are gun-free zones, even if you have a State permit to carry concealed.
oh my god!
ReplyDeleteTo think that they'd try to curtail the divinely inspired Constitutional right for all gang-bangers to bear arms!
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ReplyDeleteIt is already illegal to shoot people, in Canada, correct?
ReplyDeleteSo, in all reality ash & Canada favor a form of Bush cowboy intervention, by preemption.
How'd that work out?
US policy is to stop illegal drug traffic at the source, so do not be surprised or shocked that Canada and Mexico want to stop illegal gun traffic at its' source.
The Mexicans are fully justified if direct action by their agents is used, using US foreign policy precedent, to come to Phoenix and shut down that X-Caliber gun store, since the Federals failed to make their case stick in Court.
We've done that in Mexico, Columbia & Bolivia before.
yeppers, the US has a long history of 'reaching out' to other nations and it does provide justification for others to do the same - Russia in particular.
ReplyDeleteJust wait until Mexican Government agents kidnap the President of Colt Manufacturing and put him on trial, in Mexico.
ReplyDeleteWe've done the same to drug cartel leadership across the Americas.
Then there is the nifty stuff revolving around politics and elections - God forbid any foreigner should try to 'influence' a US election but WE need to help others elect the right folk to office!
ReplyDeleteTime to spread US accounting rules around the globe - MARK to FANTASY and all your problems will not be!!
ReplyDeleteCanadians, peace loving folk, love their HOCKEY!
ReplyDeleteShould we force the Pakistani to have incarcerated that young lady, instead of the corporal punishment that was meted out, by the duly constituted "Law of the Land"?
ReplyDeleteJim Webb, Senator from VA has something to say, about how the US manages its' criminal justice.
Let's start with a premise that I don't think a lot of Americans are aware of.
We have 5% of the world's population; we have 25% of the world's known prison population.
We have an incarceration rate in the United States, the world's greatest democracy, that is five times as high as the average incarceration rate of the rest of the world. There are only two possibilities here: either we have the most evil people on earth living in the United States; or we are doing something dramatically wrong in terms of how we approach the issue of criminal justice. . . .
The elephant in the bedroom in many discussions on the criminal justice system is the sharp increase in drug incarceration over the past three decades. In 1980, we had 41,000 drug offenders in prison; today we have more than 500,000, an increase of 1,200%. The blue disks represent the numbers in 1980; the red disks represent the numbers in 2007 and a significant percentage of those incarcerated are for possession or nonviolent offenses stemming from drug addiction and those sorts of related behavioral issues. . . .
As the incarceration rates increased, so did the contraband trafficing and the violence.
Cause and effect.
Is that where we want to be?
Are we getting closer to the Goal?
Ash: To think that they'd try to curtail the divinely inspired Constitutional right for all gang-bangers to bear arms!
ReplyDeleteThat's what I'm saying, Ash. In Canada you're not even supposed to have a slingshot, yet the gang bangers are shooting at each other in set-piece gun battles that you only see in Hollywood, USA.
(CNN) — Former House speaker Newt Gingrich is warning of a third party mutiny in 2012 if Republicans don’t figure out a way to shape up.
ReplyDelete“If the Republicans can’t break out of being the right wing party of big government, then I think you would see a third party movement in 2012,” Gingrich said Tuesday.
The United States is not configured for small government. Neither are most individual states anymore. I don't know where small government dreamers would place the ideal conservative moment on our historical timeline (1797? 1851? 1918? 1953?) but surely there must be some recognition, on some level, that we have long since passed that day when a relatively diminutive governing apparatus was still practicable or desirable. Surely?
The phrase itself is undoubtedly a trope but as such leads to perpetual frustration, disillusionment, and anger on the part of those who in simple faith follow, over many decades showing no progress toward the goal, the Gingriches of the political scene. And if the only conceivable conservative goal, as Hayek suggested, is to occasionally slow down the expansion of the state (and the various states), rather than to usher in or bring back concretely small government, it's probably better to say so.
Wise governance for a country that isn't getting any smaller or less complicated or less demanding or less ambitious - this would be at least attainable. And less invariably self-defeating.
yeah, but the blame really lies in the US and not things Canadian, like Hockey ;) If we didn't have guns to play with we'd all git along just fine!
ReplyDeleteRatlogic---President of Colt = Drug Cartel President
ReplyDeleteRat may well have a Colt in his closet.
either we have the most evil people on earth living in the United States; or we are doing something dramatically wrong in terms of how we approach the issue of criminal justice
Maybe we just got better law enforcement.
From having lived around here forever, and watched the system, you got to have been nailed in court over three times for the usual low level drug stuff before you actually see the inside of a cell. Before that, it's the standard probations, fines etc.
ReplyDeleteMaybe we'd be better off with a good public whipping.
Pardon if you have already read this as I have been away from the WWW.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/03/26/lapierre.guns.mexico/index.html?iref=newssearch
Medvedev Congratulates Comrade Obumble For Being A Pushover
ReplyDeleteNice article, Gag.
ReplyDeleteChina is the great 'unsung' contributor of private arms to Mexico.
ReplyDeleteBobal
ReplyDeleteIn my absence, I trust you have kept everyone in line?
Tadisco Now Leading By 12, Absentee Ballots Yet To Be Counted
ReplyDeleteI need your help, Gag.
ReplyDeleteFrom the Mexican perspective, bob, they are very equal.
ReplyDeleteThe Mexicans have lost control of their country, in large part because of weapons manufactured or sold in the US. The US cannot convict the gun running contrabandistas in Court.
This is similar to what occured, in Mexico or Colombia, with regards the cartel leaders.
Pablo Escobar was a well respected businessman in his hometown of Cali Colombia, as much as Marine Corps Maj. Gen. James R. Battaglini (ret.) the COO of Colt Arms is respected in his.
The merchant of the means of death is the one that should be convicted of attempted murder. That was your position, bob.
Illegal guns in Mexico, are a scourge upon their society.
Just as illegal drugs are here.
We blame the manufacturers of the drugs.
Why should the Mexicans blame themselves?
Which is why Norinco products are in my closet, trish.
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ReplyDeleteEqual protection, don't you know.
Most of the weapons, in my experience and that gleaned from others, that make it to Mexico from the US, are Chinese.
ReplyDeleteThe X-Caliber dealer was shipping AK varients, to Mexico. Or so it was accused, the Judge dismissed the case against the fellow.
The Chinese products are time tested in rugged conditions and considerably less espensive than their US competition.
The merchant of the means of death is the one that should be convicted of attempted murder. That was your position, bob.
ReplyDeleteI said the seller of a true poison like heroin perhaps should be charged with attempted murder, as it often happens that the buyer ends up dead somewhere along the line.
It is a poison. And an extremely addictive one. Doesn't it seem logical that one that sells a poison to another might be charged with attempted murder? A little too much, you are in the other world.
How this applies to the second amendment I do not know.
If I were to sell an addictive poison to Mrs X down the street I can see how society might what to charge me with attempting to kill her, as she might well die, and I would have done it with forethought, knowing she might well die.
The cartels were using Barrett 50 caliber rifles in their overwatch positions, but that was on the US side of the fence.
ReplyDeleteThe weapons from captured caches that Sheriff Joe displays are, invariably, AK varients.
Except for an occasional Barrett and/or shotgun.
And the manufacturer of the poison, bob, he is not culpable in the chain of custody?
ReplyDeleteThey have been, by US Federal policy.
Or else Pablo Escobar would not have been tracked down by Delta Force operatives.
In Mexico guns are considered more dangerous than drugs, bob. That's their Law. While it is true the US Courts have found that the weapons manufacturers are not complicit in the crimes committed with their weapons, Mexican Courts may not be so disposed.
Since the US would never extradite Marine Corps Maj. Gen. James R. Battaglini (ret.), the COO of Colt Arms, it could be expected that Mexico could go to extrodinary means to stop the terror that is enveloping their land.
The US has done as much, to stop criminals, drug dealers and terrorists. Why would the Mexicans not have the right to do the same?
Italian Trial of C.I.A. Operatives Begins With Torture Testimony
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Published: May 15, 2008
MILAN — A long-delayed trial of C.I.A. operatives and former top Italian intelligence officials moved forward here on Wednesday, as a judge ruled that Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi could be called to testify about the abduction of a radical Muslim cleric here in 2003.
Testimony also began Wednesday. The cleric’s wife, Ghali Nabila, said her husband, Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, known as Abu Omar, was taken from Italy and transferred to a prison in Egypt, where, she said, he was repeatedly tortured.
While acknowledging a program of “extraordinary rendition,” or abducting terrorism suspects outside the United States,
the Bush administration claims that no one is sent to nations that torture.
"Most of the weapons, in my experience and that gleaned from others, that make it to Mexico from the US, are Chinese."
ReplyDeleteThe Chinese arms merchants, the foremost suppliers to Mexico, import directly into that country. It is vastly easier. Almost none of it ever touches US soil. We've just been sucked into a false meme by the Mexican government.
Where do I learn about Big Government Libertarianism, Trish?
ReplyDeleteWhat this administration expects in return for getting sucked in, is anyone's guess.
ReplyDelete"It is vastly easier."
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That's what I figured.
Where do I learn about Big Government Libertarianism, Trish?
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You don't. There isn't.
But you already knew that.
"What this administration expects in return for getting sucked in, is anyone's guess."
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Gun Control and Amnesty come to mind.
But how can you argue that Big Govt is now a necessary reality and claim to be a libertarian?
ReplyDeleteLibertarianism doesn't work?
ReplyDeleteWould you object if the Mexicans chose not to excercise extraordinary rendition in regards to Marine Corps Maj. Gen. James R. Battaglini (ret.), the COO of Colt Arms, but employeed it instead on George Iknadosian, 47, the owner of X-Caliber guns in Phoenix.
ReplyDeleteGeorge recieved a directed not guilty verdict from Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Robert Gottsfield, even though at the time of the arrest:
Authorities allege the gun dealer sold more than 650 AK-47-type assault weapons to Mexican drug gangs responsible for recent shootouts that have claimed dozens of lives.
"He knowingly, willingly sold these weapons, and he even gave our guys undercover tips on how to evade the police," Pete Forcelli, the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms supervisor on the case told ABC News.
Any way of knowing about how many guns extant in Mexico or USA?
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ReplyDeleteThat could be true, trish, about Mexico and Chinese weaponry.
ReplyDeleteBut it is just not the Mexican Government that is promoting the smuggled from "el Norte" storyline. Your own is right in their, singing that tune, too.
BHO Blames USA for just about everything.
ReplyDeleteBut how can you argue that Big Govt is now a necessary reality and claim to be a libertarian?
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If Glenn Reynolds can do it, I can to.
Thus the need for radical transformation.
ReplyDeleteA Crisis of a Guilty Nation is a Terrible Thing to Waste.
For the US the NRA may have a guesstimate, somewhere.
ReplyDeleteFor Meixco, I draw a blank on where that number could publicly reside.
...I don't read Glen, I read you!
ReplyDeleteYour own is right in their, singing that tune, too.
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I believe I stated as much.
Any examples of Big Govt States where libertarian values prosper?
ReplyDeleteYou'll have to await the dissertation, Doug.
ReplyDeleteAnd Spring Break is upon us.
You should apply for a job in this Admin!
ReplyDeleteSelling the Future Reality, Slip Sliding through the Present.
;-)
I should apply. I'm just too slothful to bother.
ReplyDeleteAnybody know how health care in France compares with that in Britain?
ReplyDelete...I've heard good reports from France, bad from Britain.
ReplyDelete...but a Doc I know is from France.
Guess he makes more here...
Catholics having buyer's remorse when it comes to Obama.
ReplyDeleteIt is not the size of the Government, in and of itself, but the power that the Federals have usurped from the people and the various States.
ReplyDeleteTo reverse the process a incremental approach would have to be taken, and as of now, there is no public support for even the first incremental step away from ever more intrusive Federal Socialism.
bob's position on opposing the sale of Federal assets, rather than increasing Federal debt, is instructive in that regard.
As he is four square in rejecting that course for his own, personal estate.
While finding it an acceptable, if not the preferable, course of action, for the Federal Government.
Not meeting the goose and gander standard. Perhaps due to scalability issues, perhaps not.
"It is not the size of the Government, in and of itself"
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Has to be paid for, and Govt "Workers" vote.
Seems a recipe for loss of individual liberty.
Everyone has to eat, doug, in a republican empire.
ReplyDeleteEven the Romans figured that one out.
Getting fed as a Roman Government "Worker" a mite easier than workers building the Colosseum.
ReplyDelete"It is not the size of the Government, in and of itself"
ReplyDeleteJust one more reason to retire the 'small government' phrase.
I do, do, do, however, adore those who believe, for instance, that you can have your Pax Romana and your petite, disinterested federal governance as well.
An interesting but unappreciated fact is that the real explosion in government in the past 25 years has occurred at the state and local level. What one Cato writer noted as a consequence of "grassroots tyranny." We just don't often seem to recognize, in the Great Debate, any other than an attrition of freedom occasioned by Washington. Most of it happens much, much closer to home.
"It is not the size of the Government, in and of itself"
ReplyDeleteJust one more reason to retire the 'small government' phrase.
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Yet neither of you explain the Mechanics of that "truth."
...seems the realities I bring up don't support the contention.
ReplyDelete...til argued otherwise.
Once you've rejected being an elitist, doug, it's a question of being a pleb or a slave.
ReplyDeleteI'd rather be a plebeian citizen of the Republic than a slave of Empire.
There is a difference.
Made that choice long ago, no turning back, now.
Nice way to evade more basic argument.
ReplyDeleteI could tell you what choices I've made and why, but that does not change the reality of the costs of big government.
ReplyDeleteHere is a chart that allows us to see the growth in Government expeditures and power.
ReplyDeleteChart it from 1930 to present, the expolsive growth in Federal power is easy to see.
Regardless of whether Republicans or Democrats were in contol of the levers in DC, from 1970 onward, the money spent and with it the power enjoyed by the Federals exploded.
slim claimed it's good for the morale of the rest of US. bobal was adement, we can't turn back the clock.
Many of those State and Local funding issues are related to Federal mandates, but not all of them, by any means.
AZ finds inself $3 bn USD in the red, with no where to "cut", that seems acceptable to Gannett Newspapers.
I do not know how to turn back the tide, doug.
ReplyDeleteI think that the best we can hope for is that our personal floatation devises work.
That the explosion in spending and the usurption of power by the Federals all seemingly coincided with the retirement of the Silver Certificate and the increased influence of the Federal Reserve, just happenstance.
ReplyDeleteAn Act of God.
I was going to argue your points about the Feds.
ReplyDeleteGlad you did it for me, since Trish is on vacation re: Rebuttal of same.
...I would have felt had,
yet again.
DeTocqueville told us this would happen with time.
ReplyDeleteUnless the populace somewhere sometime becomes as enlightened as the founders, don't see any shining cities anytime soon.
DC schools a good example of the tyranny of the feds in collusion with the unions.
ReplyDeleteObama promises to give the World Equal Educational Opportunity at the same time his party is depriving DC students of same.
Obumble the Humble
ReplyDeleteThe Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 35% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-two percent (32%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of +3, his lowest rating to date.
Rush cited a poll that said 80% blamed banks and Bush.
ReplyDeleteThe battle of the polls continues.
Trish: I do, do, do, however, adore those who believe, for instance, that you can have your Pax Romana and your petite, disinterested federal governance as well.
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There you go, Bob. Your very own tower of Babel. And why you're cursed.
The finances of an individual citizen shouldn't be confused with those of the nation as a whole, as some people sometimes mistakenly do. They are quite different. An individual has no power to tax, for instance, among many other things. If an individual, as often happens, wished to sell an asset to cover an individual debt, that is quite different from selling the national forests to cover a national debt. An individual doesn't have to think about things like a national heritage, or the overall living environment of the folks, the benefits of the vast outdoors to the sanity of the populace, the grotesqueness of selling national treasures to the UberRich, the will of the voters, prior acts of Congress, etc etc while the government does, or should. Often people seem to see a banana and an orange and think they are the same because they are both fruit. A common enough error.
ReplyDeleteDamn me, I'm cursed.
ReplyDeleteLooked at another way, though ...
ReplyDeleteIn 1961 the GEP of the US was 544.7bn while Total Spending was $164.8, 30%.
In 1981, Reagan's first year, GDP was $3.1284 tn, Spending was $1.05 tn. That'd be 33.5%
In 1989, the first post Reagan year, GDP was $5.803 tn, Spending was $2.104 tn. That'd be 36%
By the end of the Clinton era in 2001 the GDP was $10.128 tn, Spending was $3.434 tn. That'd be 33.9%.
The 2008 numbers, GDP $14.28 tn, Spending @ $5.293 tn. That's 37% at the beginning of Obama's tenure.
The expansion of Federal spending is still there, but not as dramatic an increase as the gross dollar amounts.
Damn me, I'm cursed.
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Not you, Bob. You're under my protection.
The individual has an obligation to his progeny, bob.
ReplyDeleteBoth publicly and privaely.
As you said earlier
"We're broke"
What happens when folks are broke, bob? Well, the Sheriff comes and auctions off the property, real and personal.
To pay the creditors.
Often times the debtor could have liquidated those assets, before the crisis stage and come out ahead.
As to the matter of scalability, Nations are never "To big to fail"
Expanding more, by percentage, under Reagan and both of the Bushs than under Clinton/Gingrich.
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ReplyDelete1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
Netanyehu: US Must Stop Iran Or We Will
ReplyDeletewe're broke--ah, I didn't really mean that. We're going to have some big inflation though, I think.
ReplyDeleteYou say the State has the power to tax, but then decry as unfair a Capital Gains tax and portray any increase in the income tax rate as unproductive.
ReplyDeleteWhich may be true in both cases.
But you do not offer an alternative method to raise revenues.
Nor to cut spending, by substantial amounts.
You have advocated that we cannot abandon our expensive miltary efforts abroad, regardless of cost or probability of success.
It's tough to be broke, bob.
There are hard choices to be made.
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ReplyDeleteSounds Like The Shooter May Be A Troubled Vietnamese
ReplyDeleteBush/DeLay wiped out any progress made by Clinto/Gingrich at reversing the incremental expansion of Government.
ReplyDeleteJust about the Scariest Chart you'll see this week (year?)
ReplyDeleteChinese Oil Consumption
We've got just a couple of years to get our act together, folks. This is going to get "messy" as hell.
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Oh, the horror.
But you do not offer an alternative method to raise revenues.
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You don't need to raise revenues. You need to cut expenses, starting with the military and the other corporate parasites.
And, rufus, they are building and selling 600,000 autos internally, per month.
ReplyDeleteThe 500,000 EVs the Chicoms have slated for production in 2011, just a drop in the bucket.
Less than a months supply of overall demand for transportation at current levels.
That wold be a start, mat.
ReplyDeleteBut bob has rejected cutting back military expeditures, he advocates for more, not less.
He gets that from Pesident Obama's budget. Miltary spending is up 3% over last year, with the costs of Iraq and Afghanistan still not factored into the annualized budget.
Rat, your chart is Fed, State, and Local.
ReplyDeleteFederal Spending looks a lot different when it's broken out this way.
The Feds historically collect about 19% of GDP in taxes (regardless of which tax "scheme" they institute,) and they usually spend about one and a half to two percent more than they take in.
They've got a Billion people, Rat. About 300 Million of them are starting to make some money, and have no debt.
ReplyDeleteNow, they're starting to produce their own inexpensive, fairly good quality cars. I can see them putting twenty-five million cars/yr on the road in a few years, fairly easily.
And, they're not like the U.S. When they put a new car on the road an old car doesn't come off the road. A car that went on the road 15 years, ago, in China will probably be there for another 20 years.
Then, there's India.
Vietnam, Thailand, Saudi Arabia, Russia, and all of Latin America.
And, Worldwide oil production has Peaked. This could be a long-assed "Recession" folks.
That's why I think we will "technically" come "out of recession" fairly soon, but go back in within a year, or so.
ReplyDelete"And, Worldwide oil production has Peaked. This could be a long-assed "Recession" folks."
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There goes that prediction of a second quarter turnaround!
:-)
:-(
gallows humor icon
A Bear Market Recession Rally.
ReplyDeleteChart don't look that different to me, 'specially if it showed the latest 8 trillion of planned for Federal spending.
ReplyDeleteThat wold be a start, mat.
ReplyDeleteBut bob has rejected cutting back military expeditures, he advocates for more, not less.
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I think that Bob is coming to the same realization that I have. These wars are fake wars, a military welfare program to keep military contractors busy.
"the costs of Iraq and Afghanistan still not factored into the annualized budget."
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I thot he said Bush didn't but he was gonna.
...he didn't?
Wars expense is smaller and more temporary than Welfare State Spending.
ReplyDelete(not that I'm arguing for Empire, or the present long wars.)
No, doug, he didn't
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