Friday, October 17, 2008

McCain Razzing Obama - Good Stuff



79 comments:

  1. McCain can be quite the personable guy. It's too bad the Rovian puppet master in his campaign led him down the grumpy old attack man pandering to the base instead of letting him run with what got him to the head of the republican pack - the guy that was comfortable on the Jon Stewart show. A lot of water has passed under the bridge since that time though.

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  2. Larry Chomstein's take:

    McSame's Lipsticked Pig Unwittingly Campaigns for Obama

    These are desperate times for John McSame. His lipstick-adorned pig has been on the attack all day, erroneously claiming that Barack Obama has ties to Bill Ayers - an Anti-American Marxist who blew up buildings, murdered police officers and judges, and plotted a violent overthrow of the U.S. Government in the 1960's.

    She actually says it like it's a bad thing. Why Palin would want to energize Obama's base is beyond me. But that's beside the point, because everything she said is a LIE. Barack Obama merely helmed a couple of Chicago anti-poverty projects with Ayers. I don't know about you guys, but if I refused to participate in any progressive organizations that had a known domestic terrorist on it's board, I'd never get anything done.

    Ayers also held a small fundraiser for Obama's first run for office, but Obama assures us that he didn't know about Ayer's romantic past any more than he knew Reverend Wright was plagiarizing Louis Farrakhan's sermons.

    This is all ancient history, anyway. Obama was only 8 years old when Ayers was planting pipe bombs at Military dances. GET OVER IT, PEOPLE! Ayers is a Distinguished Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago now, which is both a testament to the quality of the school and Ayer's committment to social justice. Besides, if Obama refused to take money from every America-hating Marxist who supported his candidacy, he would have only three cents in his war chest with which to fight the dishonorable John McSame.

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  3. Where do you find that shit, Mat? And why do you litter the bar with it?

    I don't know about you guys, but if I refused to participate in any progressive organizations that had a known domestic terrorist on it's board, I'd never get anything done.

    And that would be a good thing.

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  4. If I dare step in here, I believe Mat posted that to show the outrage of it, but lets let Mat clarify and speak for himself.

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  5. Seems obviously sarcastic in tone to me.


    I'm not the only one suffering the rage of, dare I say, wingnuts. Ole Christopher Buckley is getting his fair share of hate:

    " had gone out of my way in my Beast endorsement to say that I was not doing it in the pages of National Review, where I write the back-page column, because of the experience of my colleague, the lovely Kathleen Parker. Kathleen had written in NRO that she felt Sarah Palin was an embarrassment. (Hardly an alarmist view.) This brought 12,000 livid emails, among them a real charmer suggesting that Kathleen’s mother ought to have aborted her and tossed the fetus into a dumpster. I didn’t want to put NR in an awkward position.

    Since my Obama endorsement, Kathleen and I have become BFFs and now trade incoming hate-mails. No one has yet suggested my dear old Mum should have aborted me, but it’s pretty darned angry out there in Right Wing Land. One editor at National Review—a friend of 30 years—emailed me that he thought my opinions “cretinous.” One thoughtful correspondent, who feels that I have “betrayed”—the b-word has been much used in all this—my father and the conservative movement generally, said he plans to devote the rest of his life to getting people to cancel their subscriptions to National Review. But there was one bright spot: To those who wrote me to demand, “Cancel my subscription,” I was able to quote the title of my father’s last book, a delicious compendium of his NR “Notes and Asides”: Cancel Your Own Goddam Subscription."

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-14/sorry-dad-i-was-fired

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  6. Larry Chomstein. Satire that punches you right in the solar plexus and leaves you stunned and laughing.

    Apologies to Mat. I overreacted. Too subtle for me I guess.

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  7. Where do you find that shit, Mat? And why do you litter the bar with it?
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    LOL!

    Read it gain. And if you're not on the floor laughing, then there's gotta be something wrong with youz,cause Larry Chomstein is the man! :D

    http://blamebush.typepad.com/

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  8. Larry Chomstein's Biography:

    Lawrence "Liberal Larry" Chomstein was born and raised in Las Vegas, Nevada.

    "Having grown up in the capitol of greed and decadence, I have a unique perspective on the conservative mind, if there is such a thing."

    Larry cut his progressive teeth at UC Berkeley, where he majored in Greco-Roman Sexual Positions and Interpretive Clog Dancing. He obtained his Masters in Gender Studies at Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington, where he organized the school's first Free Mumia March to a nearby Starbuck's.

    In 2003, Larry travelled to Iraq where he volunteered as a human shield against the coming U.S. "shock and awe" campaign, but left shortly before the attacks to seek medical attention for severely burned testicles.

    "Iraq under Saddam was a vibrant country, with wonderful people, but having one's gonads hooked up to a car-battery five hours a day was a cultural tradition this Ugly American was just too eurocentric to appreciate."

    Larry now resides in the Seattle area where he works as a sales rep for a company that develops hemp clothing products.

    "We have a whole line of underwear you can wear all day, then roll up and smoke that very evening."

    Larry is not a communist, but believes in a "kinder, gentler, fair-market form of capitalism" in which the means of production and distribution of goods are controlled by the state.

    Larry is single, but was up until recently engaged to be engaged to a beautiful young womyn who might or might not have been a member of the transgendered community.

    Interests

    Tai-Bo, aromatherapy, environmental activism, tie-dye apparel, beadwork, ginseng colonics, stabbing myself with a fork as penance for 2000 years of white male hegemony

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  9. I need to get out more. Mingle. Absorb the urbane cultural snacks that surround me. Quit kickin' the dog.

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  10. Quit kickin' the dog.
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    Heheh. :)

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  11. If ever there has been a fellow that was misunderestimated, it'd have to Obamasan.

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  12. High court rejects GOP bid in Ohio voting dispute
    The Associated Press

    The Supreme Court sided Friday with Ohio's top elections official in a dispute with the state Republican Party over voter registrations.

    The justices overruled a federal appeals court that had ordered Ohio's top elections official to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility.


    Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, faced a deadline of Friday to set up a system to provide local officials with names of newly registered voters whose driver's license numbers or Social Security numbers on voter registration forms don't match records in other government databases.

    Ohio Republicans contended the information for counties would help prevent fraud. Brunner said the GOP is trying to disenfranchise voters.

    In a brief unsigned opinion, the justices said they were not commenting on whether Ohio is complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

    Instead, they said they were granting Brunner's request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue.

    "They didn't deal with the merits of the case," said Ohio GOP Chairman Bob Bennett. "What they dealt with was a technicality on whether we had standing or not to bring the action."

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  13. "We are very pleased that the court recognized that this was an illegal challenge on the part of the Republicans," she said.

    She said the office would have found a way to comply, but there were risks that qualified voters would have been disqualified.

    "I think it's an unfair tactic to subject voters to this kind of uncertainty and anxiety this close to such an important election," she said.

    In court filings, the GOP has not produced any specific evidence of voting fraud, only unsubstantiated reports that voters from other states had cast fraudulent ballots during the early voting period.

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  14. We wouldn't want to see Mrs bob put under the spot light, like Joe the Plumber.

    Shhhh!

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  15. New Rasmussen poll of 700 likely voters in Missouri (Oct 15) shows Barack Obama doubling his lead over John McCain in the last few days to 6 points:

    Obama 52 (+2 vs. last poll 10/12)
    McCain 46 (-1)

    Overall, Obama now leads by 2.5% in the RCP Average for Missouri

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  16. So, fraudulent ballots does not equal voter fraud. So what exactly does constitute voter fraud?

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  17. DR, Bldg 7 tenant list doesn't seem that different from other buildings tenant lists, with the exception of the Secret Service, which had two floors. Regional IRS office doesn't, on the surface, strike one as a high value target.

    Seems hard to find a compelling reason to believe all that carnage and commotion was worthy of blowing up a couple of floors that could have been demolished or neutralized in a much quieter fashion. Kinda like killing a mosquito with an elephant gun - not implausible, but not a compelling rational for it either.

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  18. How U.S. attorneys were used to spread voter-fraud fears

    The Republicans could not get a photo ID law through the Senate, but they were able to enlist the 93 United States attorneys in their crusade against voter fraud. In 2002, then-Attorney General John Ashcroft announced an initiative that required "all components of the [Justice] Department" to "place a high priority on the investigation and prosecution of election fraud."

    Five years later, Ashcroft's initiative hasn't produced all that much in the way of convictions, at least relative to the overall Department of Justice caseload. Prosecutions for electoral fraud remain a minuscule part of the federal criminal docket. In 2002 alone, there were 80,424 criminal cases concluded nationwide in the 94 U.S. District Courts. By comparison, according to a DOJ document, between the fall of 2002 and the fall of 2005, there were only 95 defendants charged with federal election-fraud-related crimes in the whole country.

    After all, election fraud on the federal level can be hard to prove, since proving it often requires that the fraud was committed with the intent of preventing a "fair and impartially conducted election."

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  19. Well, they still got the Towers and all the hoopla that went with it.

    A major strike, with the added benefit, for them, of taking what was in building 7 along in the package.

    Now maybe it was not the Pakistani or aQ operatives that escaped, but that building imploded and did not collapse because of the fire. I've seen the damage photos and diagrams of the structure.

    I am truly convinced it was brought down with a controlled demolition, based upon viewing the open source evidence available.
    Why it was targeted, totally speculation on my part, but secondary to the fact the building was dropped and did not just fall down.
    On it's own footprint.

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  20. But that kind of stuff is what asymmetric terror attacks are made of.

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  21. Here, jwillie, a scenario for you to ponder.

    The head of the ISI meets with Team43 members on 9/10/01 or 9/11/01, which he did. The high profile attacks with the airliners are part of the Paki message. There could have easily been a nuclear device placed in Building 7, as we were able to drop it, on command.

    While providing a plausable cover story, in aQ terrorism. The US was over the double barrels of Saudi oil and deliverable Pakistani warheads.

    This resulting in seven years of direct tribute payments to Pakistan and using the US military on police and Iranian deterent operations in Iraq, after disposing of the threat Saddam posed to the Sauds.

    It's may not be a MAD world with jihadists that already have the bomb. And the Pakistani Army, they are jihadists.


    What else are border raids for, but for the mosquito to extract some blood and get their bakeesh in tribute .
    From China to Rome, that's been the story, the paying of the barbarians by the cultured elites of Empire.

    And the Barbarians, the story goes, just wanted to dip their beaks, not drink the whole glass.

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  22. Linear, I've been hearing that California CARB is going to put some restrictions on some types of big rigs, which will force them out of state, causing lots of economic havoc to those involved, with the upshot that they'll probably end up being run in Mexico, and doing the polluting a couple hundred miles to the south. Was wondering if you'd heard anything about that.

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  23. If it was just Ossama, on his own, why he bogged the US down in two wars, for seven years and $700 billion USD. Which was one of the stated intentions, the other being the bankrupting of the West's financial system.

    That'd be a lot to do, from a compound in the mountains of PakiChina-stan

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  24. dRat,

    Pakistan has no friends, except the US. Not China, not Russia, not India, not Europe. If Pakistan and Saudia are making threats of any kind, their assets, both commercial and territorial can be taken over in very short order. No one will mind.

    The war tribute, as you call it, is nothing but another welfare program for the benefit of the oil/car/military mafia.

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  25. It'd make a great novel. You ought to write it up. And, if you were sometime proven to be right, you'd make a heck of a name for yourself.

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  26. Mat, none of those countries in the area really have any friends, do they? Except themselves?

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  27. Rat: Now maybe it was not the Pakistani or aQ operatives that escaped, but that building imploded and did not collapse because of the fire. I've seen the damage photos and diagrams of the structure.

    I am truly convinced it was brought down with a controlled demolition, based upon viewing the open source evidence available.
    Why it was targeted, totally speculation on my part, but secondary to the fact the building was dropped and did not just fall down.
    On it's own footprint.



    There's another possibility, remote, but plausible.

    I've never expressed this opinion until now, for a number of reasons.

    I call it a benign conspiracy. Consider that the towers had already been bombed in an obvious attempt to topple them. That '93 bombing in the cellar narrowly missed succeeding, and if it had succeeded, not only would the 1,100 ft tower have collapsed, but it would have had the potential to take out anything in it's path in a two tenths mile radius, adding to the carnage.

    What if the civil defense authorities in NYC agreed in advance of a future attack to have the three tallest structures in the complex rigged for controlled demolition so as to fall within their own footprints and avoid the collateral damage? Think of it as a structural triage with an impossibly difficult decision to be made in the event of the next attack. I won't argue for/against this scenario. Just tossing it out.

    I share rat's doubts about WTC-7's demise, and remember being on the phone while watching the towers implode that morning. The first thing I said was that it looked like controlled demolition. The structural failure explanation for the towers' collapse has more credibility than the WTC-7 implosion, but all three fit my conjecture, and I'll emphasize that's all it is.

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  28. Well, Bob, seems to me Saudia and Pakistan have a very cozy relationship. The Pakis are also advising Iran on nuclear front both diplomatically and militarily. So I would not underestimate the Jihadi fraternity club.

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  29. ..Iran on ^the nuclear front..

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  30. WSJ Urges Folks To Understand What They're Getting Into

    My brother was a doctor, a gas passer, down at Salinas, California. Retired now. His view was if it came to this socialized medicine stuff, he'd just get out. But it didn't come during his tour. He wasn't going to put up with government interference.

    People are going to learn they can just vote themselves checks in the mail.

    Our country is going to go to hell in a handbasket.

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  31. Bob, I really don't understand the federal politicians. Why not try it in one or states to see how it works? Why does the whole country need to suffer from the unforeseen blunders, when there's little doubt that there will be such blunders?

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  32. Linear, I've been hearing that California CARB is going to put some restrictions on some types of big rigs...

    A short time ago, August I think, the state was running PSA's during prime time on my local talk station enticing diesel big rig operators to sign onto an engine clean up campaign. There were three levels of benefits offered as I recall, from emissions clean up kits on the low end, to megabuck state contributions for replacement of tractors on the high end...I seem to recall $25G, but my memory has not served me well in the last couple of days. I think I commented on it here, but I'm too lazy to go back and check the archives.

    Then the state budget crisis occurred, and that giveaway program seems to have just faded into the background noise of the election.

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  33. In a brief unsigned opinion, the justices said they were not commenting on whether Ohio is complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

    Instead, they said they were granting Brunner's request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue.

    "They didn't deal with the merits of the case," said Ohio GOP Chairman Bob Bennett. "What they dealt with was a technicality on whether we had standing or not to bring the action."

    About 200,000 of 666,000 voters who have registered in Ohio since Jan. 1 have records that don't match. Brunner has said the discrepancies most likely stem from innocent clerical errors rather than fraud but has set up a verification plan.

    Bennett said Brunner could have set up a system months ago to check the discrepancies and that her actions have left the potential for voter fraud.

    "If we have a close election in Ohio and there's any doubts, the failures will be laid right at her doorstep," Bennett said.

    article

    Nothing can be made out of this case one way or the other about whether and how much voter fraud is going on.

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  34. Just leave it to the states. If California wants it, so be it.

    Most of the doctors would probably leave, though.

    Maybe they could import some Mexican doctors to go with the pickers, as a replacement.

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  35. I've never felt worse about the prospects for our country in my life.

    But then, one just lives one's own life.

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  36. Just leave it to the states. If California wants it, so be it.
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    Exactly.

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  38. Awwww.

    Earthflower's bashful.

    Come on in, sweetie. Meet my friend Bob. Let me buy you a drink.

    What's your sign?

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  39. Most Americans are fundamentally good. So to that I say, God Bless America!

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  40. God Bless Canada, Israel, and Arizona too! God Bless Hawaii and Mississippi and all the other 54 states!

    Let's all have a drink.

    Cheers!

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  41. (I wrote the below before getting here, now I see 'Rat has already fulfilled my prediction.)
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    Supreme Court Sides with Ohio Democrats

    Supreme Court Sides with Ohio Democrats

    RUSH: The Supreme Court today, siding with Democrats in this case involving Ohio's Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner. As you know, there are 200,000 voter registrations that don't match their DMV records and Social Security numbers and so forth.
    The secretary of state of Ohio (with whom we had numerous run-ins during Operation Chaos), she was saying,
    "I don't have time to implement this by Friday."
    Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals said, (paraphrasing) "You gotta straighten this out. You gotta figure out which of these people are legit and which aren't, you gotta do it by Friday."

    So she ran to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court -- I think it's the full court, I don't think it was just Justice Stevens -- said that the setup in Ohio is sufficient as it is to weed out all these fraudulent voters. Republicans were contending the information for counties that they wanted Brunner to give would help prevent fraud, and Jennifer Brunner said the Republicans are trying to disenfranchise voters. Ha! These are already known to be fraudulent registrations!

    So basically Jennifer Brunner, the secretary of state for Ohio, went to the Supreme Court, said, "Let my people cheat," and the United States Supreme Court said, "So ordered. Your people can cheat." What a great country.
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    Now 'Rat can cite the Supremes as proof that Dems never win by Cheating:
    They just spend all that time, effort, money, and (rarely) punishment, because they enjoy the sport.

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    PREDICTABLE
    Wish y'all didn't know that, you'd think I was clairvoyant.

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  42. re: WTC 7

    'Rat,
    Please explain a believable scenario for explosives and their related detonation hardware could be fashioned to withstand a daylong assault by fire, and then perform their function perfectly.

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  43. I suppose since people like Rangel, Jesse Jackson, and the New Orleans Cold Cash guy, Jefferson have not been convicted, they have never committed any crimes?

    ...as in your "PROOF" that Dems almost never win by cheating.

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  44. Question for Desert Rat:

    Why do you mimic the MSM technique of selectively criticising the GOP, while defending the Dems?

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  45. (Barry thinks life isn't Fair because of Fox.
    As if having EVERYBODY ELSE in the MSM on his side is not of value.)

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  46. McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said lower court rulings have clearly said the HAVA regulations require the secretary of state to match against the list, find where there's been fraud and inconsistencies and report them to counties.

    "Why in the world would that not happen? We have the technology, the budget, the means and the manpower to make that happen. Do we really want to have to find out after the fact that we had counties that would have been decided one way or another because the secretary of state didn't bother doing the job the HAVA required?" Davis told reporters on a conference call.

    "I think the secretary of state ought to do her job," he added.

    Can't have that, now can we?
    ...Dems deserve to get to play outside the rules, fair's fair.

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  47. Failure: Hawaii Ends Universal Child Health Care

    Failure: Hawaii Ends Universal Child Health Care

    RUSH: This is from AP-Obama: "Hawaii Ending Universal Child Health Care," after seven months. You want to hear why? "'People who were already able to afford health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free,' said Dr. Kenny Fink, the administrator for Med-QUEST at the Department of Human Services. 'I don't believe that was the intent of the program.'" Exactly! All these unintended consequences. Every time the libs come up with an idea, it's the unintended consequences that sink it. So in Obama's home state where he was born, ladies and gentlemen, "Hawaii dropping the only state universal child health care program in the country just seven months after it launched. Gov. Linda Lingle's administration cited budget shortfalls and other available health care options for eliminating funding for the program. A state official said families were dropping private coverage so their children would be eligible for the subsidized plan."

    Of course; you come along and you offer it for free, and people who are paying for it chuck it. "Why, my God, it's going to be free! Hell's bells! I'm going to get rid of what I'm paying for!" The bottom line, this is socialist state. Hawaii is as far left as you can get and still be American, both geographically and everything else. If there's ever a state that would go for this kind of universal everything, after seven months, they can't afford it. A single state can't afford it. Hello, Obama. (Obama's promising this for the United States of America as a whole.)

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  48. Hawaii lawmakers approved the health plan in 2007 as a way to ensure every child can get basic medical help. The Keiki (child) Care program aimed to cover every child from birth to 18 years old who didn't already have health insurance — mostly immigrants and members of lower-income families.

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  49. Doug--

    Instead, they said they were granting Brunner's request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue.

    I'm not sure, but I think behind it is the idea no real cause of action has happened yet.

    Anyways, it means nothing as to what is or is not going on. They declined, for now, on procedural grounds.

    You remember the hullaballo about Bush firing the 8 attorneys general? One of the reasons was he had ordered them to prosecute voting fraud, and they declined to do so. What's a President to do? The beuacracy is so politicised now, the wheels turn slowly.

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  50. Great news for bob! and his one free bama button--

    Dear MoveOn member,
    Most of our Obama buttons have arrived safely and are being worn while canvassing, at Obama rallies, and even on CNN yesterday. But last week, we discovered that the U.S. Postal Service wasn't just incredibly slow in processing several batches of orders—they actually left many sitting in a back room for more than a month. We have reason to believe that your package may be one of those affected.

    We were and are profoundly frustrated by this news, and we've been working around the clock to resolve the situation and get the packages delivered. As of this week, all of the backlogged packages were on their way and we expect them to arrive by next week.

    We're sorry. If your order was one of those caught up in this mess, we're willing to send an expedited replacement out to you immediately.

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  51. And this from Karl--

    Dear Robert,

    Time to relax!

    Obama is way ahead in the polls. It's time for you to take victory for granted, and to stop paying attention.

    And take it from me, Karl Rove: there's definitely no need to spend one more minute making calls to recruit Obama volunteers.

    You're probably thinking, "But Karl, why would you—the mastermind behind the stealth get-out-the-vote program that powered George Bush's victories—be advising us not to make phone calls for Obama?"

    That's a good question. (And by the way, I prefer "Evil Genius" to "Mastermind.") It's true that voter outreach can tip an election. But hey, Obama's ahead in the polls, and they never lie.

    So relax! Do some yoga. Check out the new season of Project Runway. Sip white wine lattes, or whatever it is that you people like to drink.

    Barack does not need folks in Lewiston calling MoveOn members in battleground states to get them out for Obama. So there's finally time to tie-dye the seat covers for your Volvo. In fact, you probably shouldn't even bother to vote.

    Please forward this to all of your Democrat friends. Don't send it to Republicans, though.


    Thanks in advance for not doing all that you normally do,

    –"Karl Rove"

    OK Karl, I'll do just that:)

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  52. My bama button may come in handy in certain parts of the country, good as a concealed weapons permit.

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  53. Doug, we could chip in and buy Rat, who seems quite concerned about my wife's vote ;) This

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  54. October 17, 2008

    The Academy Rallies Around Ayers

    TOM BEVAN

    3,200 academics around the country have signed a petition in defense of Bill Ayers, saying that those who criticize the unrepentant former domestic terrorist who now teaches at the University of Illinois - Chicago are are trying to "intimidate free thinking and stifle critical dialogue."

    Meanwhile, Patrick O'Reilly and Therese Quinn, two members of the UIC Education Alumni Board, wrote a letter in support of Ayers printed in today's Chicago Sun-Times which concludes:

    His [Ayers'] unflagging dedication to these goals is an inspiration to College of Education students and alumni.

    We reject the recent and ongoing derogations of his character in the media and blogosphere, and by politicians, and stand beside Ayers, an advocate for education devoted to human enlightenment and liberation.

    That goal is also ours.

    The ivory tower of academia is one of the only places in America where a radical Marxist who's never expressed any regret for bombing his own country (indeed, he expressed just the opposite as little as 7 years ago) is revered as being "devoted to human enlightenment and liberation."

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  55. "ACORN's fraudulent activities threaten to dilute the votes of millions of Pennsylvania voters by allowing unqualified individuals to cast ballots and again undermine the voters' confidence in the electoral process in the upcoming election," added retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice Sandra Newman. "The Republican Party of Pennsylvania is seeking to obtain relief necessary to ensure that the 2008 General Election is fair, open and honest manner in order to preserve the ability of qualified Pennsylvanians to cast votes."

    ACORN Sued In Pennslyvania

    It's a sad thing to watch the country go to hell.

    ACORN is being sued, raided, investigated all over the country.

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  56. We did it in Panama, doug, in 1981.
    Jungle testing equipment out of a facility at Camp Clayton. Self contained radio detonators, miltary grade explosives.

    They will not detonate if set ablaze. And they can be wrapped in asbestos and other fire resistant packaging to keep it from flaming on during a fire.

    Much like Red Adair blew out the oil well fires with non-military grade explosives. The demolitions can be made safe from flame.

    As to parroting the MSM, that is the story carried to the public, In many cases it is more than reasonable. That 5 million illegal house story, as an example, it made no sense and the story buster was at Michelle Malkin's site. Where the FBI had documented 58 cases.

    If the stories can be rebutted, give it a go. But there are not many cases where they are factually wrong.

    The Supremes ruled against the GOP and for the State of Ohio. There is little spin in that, just the reality of the day.

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  58. If the Bush Justice department will not send monitors to PA, it is not Obamasan's fault.

    The fault is with George W Bush and his Attorney General, Michael B. Mukasey, if they do not send the monitors, why bother asking why?

    The fault will not lie with MSNBC, GE or Westinghouse.

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  59. I'll post one more. He may have nicked Hillary Ace of Spades

    The Supreme Court ruled on a procedural matter saying the GOP didn't have the right to sue, not 'against' the GOP as to any merits. There is no case to decide, so there's no spin. I don't quite understand the reasoning.

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  60. Rat,

    I guess I agree with Bobal - you could give Clancy or Ludlum a run for their money. Very imaginative and plausible, but highly unlikely for reasons too numerous to be worthy of serious discussion, absent compelling evidence.

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  61. Now, with respect to voter fraud, back in the "Old South", the white Democrats regularly provided black preachers with wads of cash to pay folks in the "Negro" community to go vote for their candidates. That pay might be in cash, or for those with a regular hankerin' for the finer things in life, a fifth of Jack Black or Johnnie Walker. Most sheriffs were also on the Dem payroll, albeit legally, so they never noticed anything amiss. Now this isn't hearsay, this is fact, known to all, because in those days, the black and white communities were as tightly knit as families, because many blacks were defacto member of white families, although definitely of lesser status. The point is, that information did flow freely and everybody knew what was going on.

    So, was that voter fraud - these coerced or bribed votes? Understand, very few blacks in those days would feel free enought to go into the polling booth and vote anyway other than as they had been instructed (believing in the omniscience of Democratic white power in those days prior to the 1960's).

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  62. I just saw Jerry Brown assert on Fox News that the country has realized finally, after 35 years of believing otherwise, that free markets have real risks. He then posits that Democrats are leading in the polls because people are now looking to government, and not markets, for answers.

    This lie will be repeated into "truth" by the Dems and their MSM mouthpiece.

    A poster at BC rebuts the lie quite well, but does not suggest an antidote to this poison. It would be far more worthwhile to figure out the antidote to the liberal hell we all see coming than to debate imaginative scenarios about Building 7. It is gone, but our country is not, yet.

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  63. The Belmont Club post from Unsk:

    Both the S&L Crisis and this Subprime crisis were caused by the political and financial exploitation of weaknesses of the regulation of bank reserve requirements and their public/private interface.

    This crisis is not about the free market.

    This crisis is about when politicians, and their financial cronies are allowed to play games with government guarantees and regulations. The highly leveraged derivatives were the means to which the crisis was exploited, not the cause.

    It is always prudent to protect bank reserve requirements. Period.
    Through intimidation, and deception the Democrats were able to create the illusion that the subprime and Alt A fraudulent schemes they pushed would not undermine Bank reserve requirements. We now know that they were horribly wrong and misguided. The leveraged derivatives just amplified the problem into an enormous world wide catastrophe.

    When government mixes with private enterprise, the rules of the game must be clear and transparent. The public/ private interface is always a huge opportunity for crooks and scoundrels. The regulations of such arrangements need to be tightly controlled with bright lines and insurmountable barriers to corruption. The public needs to be well informed when these bright lines are crossed.

    The problem we face today is that the Democratic Party’s primary source of support and income has come from the manipulation of regulations and government arrangements like public/private partnerships for the financial gain of legions of their supporters. The unions, universities, foundations, environmental groups and other interest groups, not only Freddie and Fannie, all have gotten into this game big time.

    In this past, the news media would shine a light on these schemes. Now, the main stream media manipulates the narrative to blame the free market and Republicans. So the Dems get a two-fer. They get the windfalls from their frauds and they get to blame the Republicans when things go horribly wrong.

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  64. I got to add, some of these old Idaho voters I like so well, democrat or republican, they are good people.

    When I went down to cast my ballot here in The Great State of Idaho, may the Lord shine upon her, I went in, and announced, "I'm here to vote for Sarah!" Billfold in hand, I pulled out my ID Driver's License, and all the old gals manning the polls laughed, and the nice lady said, "We don't need the ID". And I said, "Well, you damn well should". She laughed at that, and said, precinct please, which I couldn't remember, and then, and she figured it out for me. "We're gonna check your signature and see if it matches, is all". OK, we did that. With the address and all. And I signed my name by my place on the list. And voted, checking for hanging chads, or whatever call em, up to the light, after Florida.

    Then a nice man and lady, even older than me came in, and said, jokingly, "Anyone here from ACORN? Cause we don't want nothin' to do with that!"

    Whole place broke out in laughter, as I did.

    Voting's not so hard, done right.

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  65. Voted Republican ticket, top to bottom this year, cause I'm pissed about that damned rain on the driveway charge,among other things, like the end of our society.

    I have voted dem infrequently, in my life, I confess, with shame.

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  66. Ever get down to the engineer's office to inquire about the sewers?

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  67. Nope, but I mean too.

    I was worried about dying before voting for McCain against Obama, so I went early.

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  68. It would be far more worthwhile to figure out the antidote to the liberal hell we all see coming than to debate imaginative scenarios about Building 7.

    I agree. What do you have in mind?

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  69. Speaking for myself, not to intrude, I'd first keep my kids out of the current and coming public school system, if I had it to do over again. I mean it. My aunts and uncles, to the number of six or seven, really helped start the school system here, all taught, at least for a few years, one in college. One an elected superindendant of the schools in our county. They wouldn't recognize it now.

    They didn't indoctrinate.

    I couldn't believe it, that post I posted, about the number of 'academics' fawning and apologizing for Ayers.

    I know, people like that, they know nothing, have learned nothing, of value.

    They are fools. They haven't learned, don't even know of, the sacred. It's in Ayers writings, I am told. No sacred.

    The pursuit of power.

    I have seen it all before, in books. The false shifting optical illusion of the desert.

    The revolution.

    Teach first, there is something sacred.

    Love.

    Other than that, I'm not sure.

    All the technology they can handle, within the limits of love.

    Set 'em free. To love.

    Nite, Linear, don't fall off that poll.

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  70. Night, Bob

    Enjoy the peaceful sleep of knowing you've lived to vote for Sarah.

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  71. j willie,
    Don't know if you were there when Unsk introduced himself, he said he holds some public office in LA.
    I was talking about the same thing @ dinner, that there's always been corruption, but in the past, the Free Press acted as a watchdog which put some limits on things by way of an informed electorate.

    Them days are long gone, with the ironic thing being that the internet let's us find out things they never would have in the past, but getting the truth accepted in the face of the Democrat/MSM Leviathan is another matter.

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  72. "If the stories can be rebutted, give it a go. But there are not many cases where they are factually wrong."
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    I'd believe your WTC 7 Scenario before I'd accept that as anything other than sheer fantasy.

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  73. The Good old reliable MSM!
    Jeeze!

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  74. Cinema Mariposa

    Saw that on the Fresno Fishwrap front page when I went down for the mail today, Doug.

    I spent several days this summer in Mariposa, before and after the Telegraph Fire, nothing to do with the fire. Didn't know about the theater until my friend from Hawaii told me about it. You'd like Mariposa, I think, although there's no water nearby.

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