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Saturday, December 30, 2006

World Reaction to Saddam's Hanging

It's always interesting and often disgusting to see the world reaction to international news and current events. Of course, the left leaning BBC Have Your Say Website draws a majority of leftist, secular and humanistic commenters. Today's comments reveal the fuzzy headed, moral relativism of world opinion which according to the Democrats, Bush and Co. have needlessly alienated. Judging by the comments, that alienation may be a "good thing."

Here's a sampling of the comments most recommended (as of Saturday morning) by other commenters and readers:
Number of Comments: 1,143
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 06:34 GMT 06:34 UK


This was absolutely at the direction of Bush. The timetable of the trial and the major milestones were too coincidental with the US political timetable. And of course getting Saddam out of the way removes the possibility of any awkward questions being asked (and embarrassing answers being given) in trials for his other crimes - such as what involvement western governments had in his regime over the years.

How stupid do they think we are?? Steve Butler, Basingstoke, United Kingdom
Recommended by 266 people Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 06:41 GMT 06:41 UK


Saddam, is executate not for his crime, but to hide usa's part in the crime saddam had commited. Mohammed Munir Hossain, Lodon, Recommended by 211 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 09:19 GMT 09:19 UK


So one evil dictator has been executed for his crimes against humanity. Now all that remains is for the same justice to be dealt to Bush. Maybe then Iraq can start to recover. An illegal war is an illegal war. Those who start it should be held responsible. john, newport Recommended by 179 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 10:17 GMT 10:17 UK


Now the fiasco of the Saddam trial is over, I am looking forward to the much more interesting spectacle of the George Bush / Tony Blair trial for illegally invading a sovereign country against UN wishes and the murder of hundreds of thousands of civilian Iraqis, in the immortal words of george Bush 'bring it on'. Chris, Shropshire UK Recommended by 171 people

Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 07:37 GMT 07:37 UK


Am I alone in getting sick and tired of listening to the whining Liberal chattering classes?

They come up with any excuse to show that Dear Mr. Hussein was merely misunderstood or some other nonsense.

The man deserved what he got.

The one photograph of the gassed Kurds, including the children, was enough for me.

You are willing to pontificate and spout your Holier-than-thou clap-trap, while people such as Hussain commit genocide, you make me sick.

Bye-bye Mr. Hussein... John Ford, Cambridge, England
Recommended by 165 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 10:25 GMT 10:25 UK


Absolute savagery and barbaric inhumanity drenched in false justice - that is what this execution was. This is what the puppet Iraqi regime was instructed to do by the UK/US governments. These are the "human rights" Bush/Blair preach to the rest of the world.
I wonder why they weren't brave enough to be in the pictures, smiling next to the hangman. M. M. Zaman, UK/Canada, Recommended by 156 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 06:57 GMT 06:57 UK


The world is a brutal place made more brutal by the senseless killing of one deadly dictator politician by another. What does Saddam's hanging do to free Iraq and make the world a better place? Nothing; I don't feel safer. How can a US president have the right to sentence a former Iraqi president to death for crimes committed in Iraq, not the US? Will the Iraqi's be granted the same right to hang George W Bush for his war crimes? Anna, Perth Australia, Recommended by 154 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 08:26 GMT 08:26 UK

How fortunate for the US that, Sadam being dead, nobody will ever be able to interview him regarding his amicable dealings with Rumsfeld at the time of the Reagan administration. Hillary, Italy, Recommended by 153 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 12:53 GMT 12:53 UK

totally and utterly disgusted, I ashamed to be part of the same race as those who gloat and take pleasure in a public execution. How ironic that an evil man like Sadam has shown more dignity in his final minutes than those who are now in charge of Iraq of the US and UK Governments. And shame to those in the media who went along with this circus. Not in my name and not with my license fee. Gerry, Glasgow
Recommended by 142 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 09:12 GMT 09:12 UK

Shame on you Mr George Bush. Shame on you Mr Tony Blair. Shame on all the corrupt, oppertunist, profiteering, companies and individuals who took advantage of this illegal war for their own gain. No more said. Brian McCarthy, Ireland
Recommended by 135 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 10:24 GMT 10:24 UK

How about trying BUSH, BLAIR for war crimes? Holy
Recommended by 130 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 06:45 GMT 06:45 UK

Once again, the puppet masters have got away clean. Tony Croft
Recommended by 128 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 06:40 GMT 06:40 UK

Not only in Iraq the entire world is going to see escalation of violence. The wedge created between Sunni and Shia is now complete. Bush has sent a strong message to all Arab leaders to tow his line or else. The suspicion of the world Muslims about Bush's holy crusade is now confirmed. The world may pay the price for the actions of another despot, Bush. A.M.Rahamath Ali, India, Recommended by 120 people

Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 09:09 GMT 09:09 UK

when is Bush going to face justice for all the people who have been killed in the war in iraq jim, wigan, Recommended by 116 people
Added: Saturday, 30 December, 2006, 12:24 GMT 12:24 UK

im absolutely disgusted by events today. hypocrisy is alive and well it seems. he may have caused terrible suffering to some of his own people, but then again, have the coalition caused less suffering? was there the same lawlessness and lack of security in iraq in saddams time compared to now? will coalition leaders be executed for crimes against humanity? NO
this is an example of victors justice. its an insult to my intelligence to be told the west is "civilised". dermy, coalisland, co. tyrone, ireland, Recommended by 109 people

BBC Have Your Say

26 comments:

  1. Saddam was already a deadman a long time ago.

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  2. For as these amazing pictures show, Rossy, 45, has managed to come as close as it is possible to get to the feeling of being truly like a bird.
    ...
    At an altitude of some 7750ft, he leaps out, just like a skydiver. But unlike a skydiver, he does not plummet to the Alps below.

    There is just enough lift generated by the 10ft aerofoil strapped to his back to negate the effects of gravity. At first, after the wings are unfolded electrically, he becomes a glider then, when the four kerosene-powered engines are turned on, he becomes a jetplane.

    Thanks to the engines, each of which develops 22kg of thrust, he can not only maintain altitude but actually gain height, he says, at a rate of several hundred feet a minute - until the fuel runs out six minutes later. He lands with a conventional parachute.

    "There have been no proper aerodynamic studies of how to simulate this sort of flying," he says. "All simulations involve a rigid aircraft. My wings are rigid, but of course I am not." He steers the contraption, he says, 'purely by intuition'.

    Like a bird, he can adjust his 'trim' with incredible precision with the flick of a foot or by simply leaning his body one way or the other.

    "It is like how a child would fly," he says. He says his ultimate goal is to take off and land just using his Jetwing without an aircraft to take him into the air.

    Now he has gone one better, strapping four, small kerosene-fuelled turbojet engines (mini-versions of the engines used to power airliners designed to power model aircraft) to his wings to create what is effectively the first rocket-propelled hang-glider: the ultimate microlight, jet-powered flight at its most minimalist. ..."


    Do not hang with turkeysFly like an Eagle!

    This would be fun!

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  3. rufus,

    "SADDAM STILL DEAD!"

    Well said. It is heartening to know that even the ever meddlesome State Department cannot change that.

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  4. Rat,

    I couldn't help but think of ole' Buddy as I watched that video, and I planned to post it here, but you're a step ahead of me.

    Neat, neat stuff.

    Triton

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  5. Saddam is dead? When did this happen?
    Last I knew a coterie of notables, Cindy Sheehan, Jesse Jackson, Angela Davis, a few British Fabians were on their way to Baghdad to act as human necks..
    Damn couldn't Miliki just have postponed it for a few minutes while those dedicated activists got the "feel" of the situation "almost" on the ground?
    I mean I'd pay $4.99 + p&H for a 9x11 of Sheehan's toes just inches from the ground, wiggling there last reach for terra firma.
    Oh well life does have it's disappointments.

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  6. WOW.

    How do people who can otherwise (I assume) wake in the morning, dress themselves, arrive on-time for work, presumably labor at something productive, love their families, etc, exhibit such insanity on this issue?

    It truly makes one thankful that we haven't yet been rolled under some kind of world government.

    Imagine being under the control of folks who think like those commenters do.

    Think 2008...

    WOW AGAIN.

    Perhaps it's time to collect the family and look for land in the hills.

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  7. Before I forget:

    AspergersGentleman:

    You seem to have the scoop on our old friend Buddy Larsen.

    Can you point me to Buddy's obit?

    I'm aware that he lived in the area of Blanco, Texas and was, I think, right at 60 years young, but that's not much to Google on.

    He and I had recently been exchanging emails - a prince of a guy for sure - I'd like to pay my respects, but I have no idea how to do so.

    Many thanks if you can assist.

    Triton

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  8. Triton,

    How do people who can otherwise (I assume) wake in the morning, dress themselves, arrive on-time for work, presumably labor at something productive, love their families, etc,

    Do you suppose the key word, here, might be "assume?"

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  9. Triton,
    Buddies blogging at:

    http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com

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  10. Habu, on a previous thread:

    "The decisive intel all had the same sources, habu. The same shit running through the system years on end. And over and over again we demanded that Iraq prove the non-existence of that which we "knew" to exist."
    Trish, this is a statement you can not support in any fashion. The first sentence is remarkable in it's incredulity. You YOU YOU would have to have first hand knowledge of what all the intel sources I sited had, and I say here without eqivocation that YOU did not. The remainder of the satement is just so much filler.

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    You can read the Duelfer Report and the findings of the Iraq Intelligence Commission. My own rough statements are consistent with both.

    The intel community has undergone and continues to undergo reform precisely in response to this unhappy chapter and its contributing factors.

    I have watched us go in three years from regret that the admin so heavily based its claim to regime removal on WMD, to regret that the admin so heavily based its claim to regime removal on the need replace an authoritarian with a democratic Arab government, to regret of the whole affair - or, in some cases, to the breezy imputation of unstated alternate motives which might yet prove us wise.

    But between now and the time it's over (and for years thereafter) I expect wholesale regret to remain a growth market.

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  11. "secular and humanistic commenters"

    These commenters are neither secular nor humanistic. Calling them that is an insult to the rest of us.

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  12. I have not been able to get into any blogger site since late last night. I watched Saddam walk up to the hangman and exchange a few words. He may have lived a life of ignominy, but he stood there like a man and died with a dignity that he denied many others.

    Every life comes to end with the thoughts of the final moments. All known reality ends at where we step into that fog. It happens once. At some point your last thought dissolves.

    Saddam left life with the smell of sisal in his nose, and the violent detachment of the senses of his body from his mind.

    As the oxygen slowly dissolved into his brain, he had time to know he was dying at the end of a rope. He had time to regret. He had time to face what brought him to his end. The man who was king got the death he deserved.

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  13. rufus,

    "Assume"..... you're right, brother, good point...

    Those folks have forfeited their rights to any assumption of sanity long, long ago.

    Habu,

    Anytime recently? I checked out maggiesfarm... no Buddy from what I can see.

    I'd look closer, but the Little Tritons are draped on both arms at the moment (they want to go bowling), which makes a longer look problematic.

    Triton

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  14. J.R. Dunn writing in The American Thinker today liststen or so tyrants and how they died. Stalin,Lenin.Pol Pot,Mao, the usual gang is listed.
    He points out that most died of old age or means other than trail and justice. He finishes with this which is a tribute ti Iraq no matter how you slice it.

    "There is one single exception - the hanging of Saddam Hussein on December 29, 2006
    after a careful, lengthy trial carried out under extremely difficult circumstances according to
    internationally recognized judicial norms. The state of Iraq has succeeded where the rest of the civilized world has failed. It is a singular achievement, and it will stand."
    We, the USA, the beacon of liberty throughout the world, have had an effect on the world and the ME. A positive effect that would have been impossible without our help. Be proud.

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  15. Triton,
    I blogged with him last night. And I believe he's got a comment up today on one of the topics but don't put money on it . I do know he hangs there more often than not.

    Have a Great New Year.
    Habu

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  17. Triton said, "Can you point me to Buddy's obit?"

    So what's Aspirinburger saying, that Buddy Larson is Clark Kent to Saddam's Superman?

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  18. JUSTICE

    Diiiiieeeeee tyrant scum.

    Of all the evil motherf***ers in all the motherf***ing world, they still wring their hands about righteously offing this one genuinely evil motherf***er.

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  19. Trish,

    I stand behind my statement.
    You COULD not know what the intelligence agencies of the world reported to President Bush, how they gathered their intel or the sources they used. We do know there was unanimity on WMD's and the ongoing development of nuclear devices.

    A point to ponder:

    "There is no place in a fanatic's head where reason can enter." Napoleon Bonaparte

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  20. Trish,

    Citing the Iraq Survey Group is akin to counting hanging chads in Florida elections.
    Charles Duelfer was a member of the ISG. Ugh.

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  21. Habu,

    What do you know about the Iraq Survey Group?

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  22. An even better question
    What does the ISG have to do with the Iraq Intelligence Commission?

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  23. Do not confuse the Iraq Survey Group with the Iraq Study Group.

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  24. Triton,

    I believe it was a younger sibling who was willed Buddy's digital estate. That is, you can probably still use that email to check in with the Larsen line, but as to Buddy, though oft imitated (as seems to be the example at Maggie's farm), the man has passed on. He seeded a heck of an idea. Looks like maybe one of the other Larsens shared some of his talents.

    I knew him growing up and he looked like Jack Elam, especially when he grew his Advent beard.

    Heard about his passing through his cousin, Anthony (tonylarseny@gmail.com). Holidays can put people at some profound ease I guess.

    Tony's been a bit overwhelmed these past few months. Turns out Buddy was something of a franchiser when it came to making families. Alot of offspring coming of age that want a chance at the Larsen treasure.

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