Thursday, November 02, 2006

The Nation Building Business

Law and order are essential to any society; in fact a prerequisite for a civil society.
BAGHDAD, Oct. 16 — American military units joined with Iraqi forces on Monday in maintaining a fragile peace between Sunni and Shiite communities in Balad, a rural town north of the capital where an explosion of sectarian violence over the weekend left dozens dead.

No people will tolerate this kind of insecurity. Personal freedoms and liberties will gladly be forfeited in the hope that the real existential threats are minimized. The Islamists understand this facet of human nature and are exploiting it across the Islamic world. From Somalia to Afghanistan, Islamists are providing a "secure" alternative to the death and corruption being visited upon the civilian populations. Never mind that in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Islamists are a huge source of the death and insecurity. Somalia seems to be a different matter as it was the competing war-lords and their kat-addled thugs which reduced that country to a chaotic cesspool.

People must be given a modicum of peace and security in their lives or they will turn to whatever power, democratic or otherwise that can provide that security.
In the aftermath of the reprisals, some residents of Balad asked why American troops had not intervened when the killings began in earnest on Saturday. One of the largest American military bases in Iraq, Camp Anaconda, which includes a sprawling air base that serves as the logistical hub of the war, is nearby.

“People are bewildered because of the weak response by the Americans,” said one Balad resident who asked not to be identified for fear of reprisals. “They used to patrol the city every day, but when the violence started, we didn’t see any sign of them.”

If news reports about Balad are true, this is a disgrace to the US. Lawlessness is gaining the upper hand in Iraq and unless civil order is quickly restored in Iraq, the militia violence will escalate into a full scale civil war ending only when one side has achieved dominance over the over. The question becomes how is a civil order imposed on a people accustomed only to submitting to the dictates of a brutal and ruthless dictator?

Unfortunately, due in large part to the constant cacophony of the anti-war critics including the charges of "American Imperialism," the "Democracy Project" may have been advanced prematurely. Regardless, we are where we are. Unless we want to take 10 steps back to a real military occupation with a military governor and 250,000 or 500,000 troops it has become a matter of police actions and criminal prosecutions. This means somebody, the US military or the Iraqi Army must take whatever steps are necessary to stop the kind of violence which occurred in Balad. The surviving perpetrators must then be brought to justice in an Iraqi court. Peaceful people trying to establish a just and civil society deserve no less and will turn to whoever can provide security and justice. And who can blame them?

The US Military doesn't like nation building, well who does? Unfortunately, that's the business we are currently in and since we can't find any business partners or suckers to buy it from us, we just have to keep it going or dissolve the enterprise and suffer the disgrace of failure.

I suggest somebody get serious about governing and I believe that the Germans left a trove of documents on "how to occupy." The Department of Defense can start with those if it needs an "Idiot's Guide."

37 comments:

  1. Germany has a population of 88 million. they have about 14,000 troops deployed overseas on various missions. They are worried that they are overextended. They can get 100,000 people to a football game. They probably have more than 14,000 traffic cops in Berlin. The US had 550,000 US troops in Germany at the height of the Cold War,
    Over-extended?

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  2. Yes, duece, the US was over extended, still is.

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  3. Force Protection, whit, the mantra of the modern military.

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  4. No, whit, you put the whole litter down. Once you took responsibility for them you're stuck.

    To take them back to the boondocks, abandoning them to nature is unacceptable.
    Raise 'em or kill 'em yourself.

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  5. No, whit, the rest of the world does not pick 'em up in the first place.

    Once you become a budinski there is sometimes a price to pay.

    I've got a house full of stray dogs and cats, myself, I'm sorry to say.

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  6. We're in agreemeent then, my friend

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  7. Well, all I can say is that there's one month left in hurricane season and so far all's well. Can you imagine what would have happened if Ray "Chocolate City" Nagin had had to cope with another Katrina?
    Would he start the school busses this time..well he dodged it so far.

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  8. There's somethin' pleasin' bout hurricane season

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  9. DR,
    pure evil man, but G-d knows I'd share my canteen with you anywhere.

    down here we're fraddy cats o them thar 'canes..bad juju.

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  10. whit,
    sub-sonic .22, headshot,very humane under the circumstances.

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  11. Some here must think me incapable of recognizing the “good” in Islam. Just to show such persons how wrong they are, here is a story in praise of a kinder, gentler Islam. Enjoy, Ash.

    Link

    and

    Insert [Gang] in title

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  12. These poor Brits had no choice, just as the brave, desperate Palestinian freedom fighters have none.



    We must reach out to them.

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  13. whit,

    Deuce and you perform and invaluable service. This site strives, in a National Geographic sort of way, to help us understand our fellows in all their beauty, complexity, and diversity without being judgmental – the cannibal at his stew, the Jew being a Joooo.

    Yes, when a gang of misogynist gang rapists is seen in the enlightening glow of Shari'a, thoughts of castration and lynching are overcome by the sweet voice of reason: Can't we all just get along? And, why can't a woman be more like a goat?

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  14. whit, I have no sympathy for Sharia law, genital mutilation, suicide bombing, or any of that crap. I also see my neighbor Muslim family happily non-mutilating and peacefully co-existing. Which of these particular instances represent all of Islam?

    In other words: Confess to the Priest, listen to a Rabbi speak of mitzvot, kneel and pray toward mecca five times a day, no problem - mutilate your little girl - no way.

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  15. Every German not in a concentration camp or a prisoner during WWII was a Nazi.

    Every German was not a concentration camp guard or soldier.

    Every unincarcerated or unfettered German supported the concentration camp guard and soldier.

    Whether particular Muslims practice themselves the violence the Koran teaches and the Muslim elite teaches and preaches is irrelevant.

    Support of the power structure of Islam makes one as much a fascist as the hypothetical German above.

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  16. Muslims take to the streets in their thousands at every perceived slight. Where are the "Moderate" Muslims, if in fact Islam has been highjacked by hereitics?

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  17. Whit, I have no problem with that at all, Allen however disagree vehemently and maybe he'll now hate you as much as he does me for Allen believes all Muslims to be bad, to be subhuman.

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  18. Ash,
    Not all Muslims are bad. There are parts of Muslims that desperate organ recipients would take I'm sure. A kidney here, a lung there.

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  19. Nice blog! It's nice to read the thoughts of so many of the insightful commenters at BC. And it's also nice to watch you guys smack Ash around.

    Here's a question: our culture and the muslim culture seem to have dramatically different definitions of shame.

    One compares behavior against a standard and should that behavior be found unacceptable shame is an appropriate emotion.

    Following the link to the story about the Saudi trial it seems to me that the Muslim men have managed to off load shame onto their women. virtually nothing a muslim man does results in any sense of shame at all, yet muslim women live in a world of structure and stricture that seems to resemble the musing of the Marquis De Sade.

    Am I on the right track?

    And the idea of harvesting organs from muslims has some merit. When will we see this reflected on the chicago board of trade? (I'm kidding!)

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  20. Ash,

    What's hate gotta do with it?

    Mein Kampf is a murderous license.

    The Koran is a murderous license.

    The Communist Manifesto is a murderous license.

    The charter of Hamas is a murderous license.

    The opposite of love is not, by the way, it is apathy.

    For whatever it is worth, I do not hate rabid dogs, Copperheads, Black Widows, and Staphylococcus aureus. But, I have no qualms about killing any of them.

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  21. U.S. troops should stay longer in Iraq: Talabani

    Two to three more years. Both Barzani and Talabani are Kruds. Hmmm…Looks like an invitation to the party.

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  22. Teresita,

    Why didn’t you use this guy to make your case for Islam?

    H/T Moonbattery

    Yusuf, Without the Islam

    He has been barred from the US and Israel for his support of terrorist organizations, including the donation of thousand of dollars to Hamas. As a man of peace, he publically supported Salman Rushdie’s death sentence.

    The Former Cat Stevens to Croon at Nobel Moonbatfest

    Of course, as a man of peace belonging to the Religion of Peace, the Cat Man was awarded the “Man of Peace” award by a committee of Nobel Peace Prize laureates.

    The former Cat Stevens, Yusuf Islam, to perform at Nobel Peace Prize Concert

    Just askin.

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  23. well, if it isn't marine dad...errr, sorry skipsailing.

    You, Allen, and Habu will make just peachy bedfellows....3 peas in a pod.

    Why don't you bring out your destroy an Iraqi city and target the kids argument for some fun and games here at the bar? Habu and Allen will cheer you on and back you 100%.

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  24. Link

    Take heart, TSA will never be so callous.

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  25. Any of you folks ever catch Doug Clark and the Hot Nuts at Atlantic Beach Pavilion in NC in the 60'?

    Just curious. Great memories.

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  26. Ash,

    It's up to you. We're counting on you. Your the one to show us how to pick up the clean end of the turds you keep dropping.
    Come on man ..give it up ..which end is clean?

    (sorry folks I know I've been over using that line lately but it's such a gem ...almost as good as the one about.....)

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  27. Ash,

    You are too kind, but as usual, wrong. If the bad MEN are killed discriminately, millions will be saved. Of course, if bad men are not killed where found in Iraq and if Muslims act true to form and commit an atrocity, well, Ash, all bets are off.

    To save the children, kill the bad men.

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  28. habu,

    Don't ever change, Dude! ;-D

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  29. skipsailing,

    re: moral equivalency

    There is no shame in thinking Americanism superior in every respect to Islam. For those who doubt, move to Saudi Arabia. By all means, though, wear that veil gals and don't be caught outside after dark. Oh, if a group of devote Muslim women approach, carrying surgical instruments, lock your legs!

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  30. Ash,

    Killing the enemy can be fun. It was more fun when you could call them really non PC names but thats out so we say things like "skinny's" or "just hosed a demographic".
    But we have laser armed aircraft coming online so the fun will really be gone..I mean zap ..
    I do understand that PsyOps is planning a 24/7 Christmas Special playing Brenda Lee's, "Rock'n around the Christmas Tree" in a loop.

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  31. Oh, Teresita, if you ever get to an Islamic country or enter an Islamic neighborhood, resist with all your might the temptation to quote either the Old or New Testaments. And if you value your life, DON'T be caught with either book on your person or in your quarters - those stones smart for a while, I'm told.

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  32. Ok, I have a new book on CD so I'm gonna get all learned up.
    later..

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  33. habu1,

    re: zap

    For great fun and fond memories, buy a large sized bug zapper, if you haven't one already.

    Oh yeah, a warm summer evening, an ice cold beer, a cigar, and the sounds of Young Frankenstein out in the yard. Memories....

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  35. If true, this is just perfect:

    U.S. POSTING OF IRAQ NUKE DOCS ON WEB COULD HAVE HELPED IRAN...

    NYT REPORTING FRIDAY, SOURCES SAY: Federal government set up Web site -- Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal -- to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war; detailed accounts of Iraq's secret nuclear research; a 'basic guide to building an atom bomb'... Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency fear the information could help Iran develop nuclear arms... contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that the nuclear experts say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums...

    Website now shut... Developing...

    ___Drudge

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  36. The NYT, in this instance, published nothing secret. It reported on the contents of a Federal website available to the public. That the Federal government did not understand the contents of the documents is not the fault of the NYT. Will the government hire enough translators now, I wonder?

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