tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post8873881828709242524..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Oil, Israel and Saudi Arabia, The Manny, Moe and Jack of US Policy in The Middle EastDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger160125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-71640408719122589452014-10-15T20:34:47.767-04:002014-10-15T20:34:47.767-04:00.
None of this has anything to do with the fact t....<br /><br />None of this has anything to do with the fact that the Mandate of 1922 had nothing to with creating a <b>state</b> for the Jews. Rather it had everything to do with facilitating the immigration of Jews into <b>Palestine</b> an entity that was expected to become a single state with autonomous regions for Jews and non-Jews, ultimately Israel and Palestine.<br /><br />The information is readily available. Look it up or don't.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-76715304866447939492014-10-15T19:52:27.143-04:002014-10-15T19:52:27.143-04:00http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer
(largest pro-I...http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer<br />(largest pro-Israel group in the U.S.)allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15605114251615293411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-67237818027726057942014-10-15T19:46:01.927-04:002014-10-15T19:46:01.927-04:00Ash,
Had you bothered yourself with reading an op...Ash,<br /><br />Had you bothered yourself with reading an opinion of mine given earlier on this thread about American foreign policy as it relates to Iraq, you would not be asking questions of me that were answered therein. This is why it is a waste of time to spend much time on the issue.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15605114251615293411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-39329099207720798322014-10-15T19:43:24.918-04:002014-10-15T19:43:24.918-04:00There were not 89 nations in the League of Nations...There were not 89 nations in the League of Nations. Although the Golan was given to the Zionists in 1920, the British again had a change of mind and gave this territory to the French as shown on the map of 1922. What do these facts tell me? People neither read the articles nor look at the maps before authoritatively stating opinions. That is why it is a waste of time to spend much time on the issue. allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15605114251615293411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-28404778787706296602014-10-15T19:21:08.494-04:002014-10-15T19:21:08.494-04:00Since I specifically addressed the Mandate of 1922...Since I specifically addressed the Mandate of 1922, I could not have been talking about the map of 1920. Both maps appear in the links.<br /><br />http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=945<br />[maps]<br /><br />http://www.justicenow4israel.com/mandatemap.html<br />[maps]<br /><br /><br />Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people...<br /><br />ARTICLE 4. An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognised as a public body for the purpose of advising and cooperating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine...<br /><br />ARTICLE 6. The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in cooperation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.<br /><br />ARTICLE 7. The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15605114251615293411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-13869922047446161662014-10-15T19:08:33.207-04:002014-10-15T19:08:33.207-04:00Fine. Oil is an infinite resource on this planet....Fine. Oil is an infinite resource on this planet. And, you can drill deep-water wells for $80.00/bbl.<br /><br />Enjoy your abundance.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-55396883581289457532014-10-15T18:29:41.309-04:002014-10-15T18:29:41.309-04:00.
What is "Occupation"Wed Oct 15, 07:30....<br /><br /><i>What is "Occupation"Wed Oct 15, 07:30:00 AM EDT<br /><br />aipac is not tax deductible.<br /><br />you should learn more before commenting.</i><br /><br />More weasel-wording? I have no idea what you are talking about when you say AIPAC is not tax deductible. It makes no sense given that the subject at hand was 'trips to Israel' and my suggestion that AIPAC all-expense paid tours to Israel for US politicians, Congressmen, and Senators, led by AIPAC members and paid for by AIEF, an AIPAC affiliate and a designated charitable organization, are tax-free for those involved which to my mind is bullshit since AIPAC refuses to register as a foreign agents for Israel.<br /><br />Perhaps, it is you who should learn more before commenting. <br /><br />Here is an article I have referenced before. Since you don't seem to know, It will explain to you exactly how AIPAC works.<br /><br />http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/01/friends-israel<br /><br />.<br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-73388212328702151582014-10-15T18:00:05.554-04:002014-10-15T18:00:05.554-04:00Just like a religious guy - any counterfactual is ...Just like a religious guy - any counterfactual is used of proof of existence.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-22819517725378607572014-10-15T17:54:10.778-04:002014-10-15T17:54:10.778-04:00I agree the borders do matter to some extent but m...I agree the borders do matter to some extent but much less than what we in the west think. The US has pretty well shot to hell the convention of military interventions backed by international law with the bombing runs in Syria being just one example of the abandonment of international law justifications being desired.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-15375991884584207562014-10-15T17:53:47.867-04:002014-10-15T17:53:47.867-04:00"The radicalisation of France's Muslim po..."The radicalisation of France's Muslim population is a matter of increasing concern, with many inhabitants of the infamous "Sensitive Urban Zones", the violent suburbs of major cities that explode into flaming conflagrations every new years becoming accustomed to violence and civil disobedience."<br /><br />http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/15/Apprentice-Jihadists-French-Park<br />THE 'APPRENTICE JIHADIST': ISLAMISTS CONDUCT MILITARY TRAINING IN FRENCH PARKallenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15605114251615293411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-33328106233593495702014-10-15T17:45:54.659-04:002014-10-15T17:45:54.659-04:00.
As to borders, regardless of the fighting there....<br /><br />As to borders, regardless of the fighting there Syria exist as a national entity and no one there, the recognized government, nor the militants have asked the US in. On the other hand, the US has been asked to intervene in Iraq by the official government. That point of law may be insignificant to you but others would disagree.<br /><br />. Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-61262317892121038942014-10-15T17:38:12.189-04:002014-10-15T17:38:12.189-04:00.
Re: Jewish Virtual Library
I avoid it.
My ap....<br /><br /><i>Re: Jewish Virtual Library<br /><br />I avoid it.</i><br /><br /><br />My apologies to the Jewish Virtual Library. You referenced it below your post and I mistakenly assumed that was where you got the content of your post. A closer look and I would have instead assumed your post originated from Myths and Facts or seekingthetruth or some such.<br /><br />Regardless of the source, the post appears to be an attempt at re-writing history. <br /><br /> <i>By unanimous consent, the Mandate of 1922 became international law in perpetuity.</i><br /><br />No. You reference the original Mandate. The only mention of 'in perpetuity' in the document is in reference to couple of the articles dealing with access to existing religious shrines and freedom of religion. <br /><br /><i>The Mandate of 1922 remains law.</i><br /><br />Nonsense. Otherwise, you would be admitting that the state of Israel is illegal and you have stolen land from the Palestinians.<br /><br /><i>Title to the Mandate was conferred upon the trustees of several Zionist organizations.</i> <br /><br />Pure bullshit. Title to the Mandate? What the hell does that actually mean? I think I know what it implies. All that the Mandate did was designate what Jewish groups (at the time of the Mandate) would act as official representative of the Jews in Palestine.<br /><br /><i>The Mandate did not grant any national political rights to Arabs.</i><br /><br />More weasel wording. The mandate indicated that nothing in the Mandate would prejudice the civil or religious rights of the existing non-Jewish population.<br /><br />You seem to be suffering under the mistaken understanding that the 1922 Palestinian Mandate somehow dictated a future Israeli 'state' when in fact it did not. What was envisioned at the time of the Mandate was eventually one Palestinian state shared by Jews and non-Jews under one government but with separate autonomous areas set up for Jews and non-Jews. <br /><br />While what is said about Jews being able to live wherever they wanted throughout Palestine is true, the same can be said about the non-Jews, but it was assumed that the populations would voluntarily segregate into the non-Jewish Palestinian territory and the "Jewish Homeland".<br /><br />The Mandate made no distinction between the Jews and non-Jews in Palestine other than to facilitate creation of a homeland for immigrating Jews.<br /><br />Heck, I don't even think the Zionists actually came out and started demanding an actual Jewish "state" in Palestine until around 1940.<br /><br />.<br /><br />You seem to be suggesting that the Mandate of 1922 granted the entirety of Palestine solely to Jews. That is wrong.<br /><br />.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-26364598930565326702014-10-15T17:26:56.181-04:002014-10-15T17:26:56.181-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-24972622322126259582014-10-15T17:17:40.607-04:002014-10-15T17:17:40.607-04:00and when the US tries, and fails, folk use that fa...and when the US tries, and fails, folk use that failure as the reason to try again.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-33500051030353476062014-10-15T17:16:13.209-04:002014-10-15T17:16:13.209-04:00One of the problems I think is endemic to the west...One of the problems I think is endemic to the west and is exhibited in your analysis Quirk is the role the national borders play in the Middle East. You say we should stay out of the civil war in Syria but fight in Iraq. I don't think the people of the region really see it in those nationalistic terms but rather view things through the lens of their sect, their tribe, their religion. By taking on IS we are getting mired in the much larger *civil* war that is simmering between Shiites and Sunnis. I don't think it is so simple as Shites vs Sunnis but rather a seething cauldron of all sorts and that big divide looms over it all. The US really doesn't have the knowledge or the desire to sort it all out for them but we keep trying...Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-52272846051080843862014-10-15T16:14:09.948-04:002014-10-15T16:14:09.948-04:00Big Mac Attack satiated, I am now leaving this mos...Big Mac Attack satiated, I am now leaving this most fine Five Star restaurant......belching like Slim Pickens with 'a pouch full of tobacca money and a belly full of beer'.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hEm6LiU3rw<br /><br />'The Flim Flam Man' is Quirk's very best favorite movie.....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877200182060537865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-72534012164168339772014-10-15T16:07:07.614-04:002014-10-15T16:07:07.614-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-77378810689116357402014-10-15T16:04:44.777-04:002014-10-15T16:04:44.777-04:00MORE Good News - - - - - Maybe.....
Cory Gardner ...MORE Good News - - - - - Maybe.....<br /><br />Cory Gardner pulling away in Colorado<br />posted at 3:21 pm on October 15, 2014 by Noah Rothman<br /><br /> <br /><br />Republicans can be forgiven for growing a bit confident that they will retake the majority in the Senate in the Fall.<br /><br />Polls suggest that GOP candidates in states like Montana, West Virginia, South Dakota, Alaska, Arkansas and Louisiana will eventually emerge victorious. Though securing an outright majority may have to wait for at least one runoff race before the GOP can be assured that they will have a majority in both chambers of the 114th Congress.<br /><br />But Republicans are starting to open up alternative paths to a simple majority in the Senate. In Iowa and Colorado, two Republican candidates are emerging as contenders. Rep. Cory Gardner (R-CO) is performing perhaps the best of all the marginal GOP Senate candidates in his race to unseat incumbent Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO).<br /><br />On Wednesday, Gardner got among the best polling news he has enjoyed of the entire 2014 election season. A CNN/ORC poll released on Wednesday showed Gardner receiving the support of a majority of the Centennial State’s likely voters with 50 percent to 46 percent support for Udall.<br /><br />“Hurting Udall is an underwater favorability rating of 45 percent — with 51 percent of those surveyed saying they have an unfavorable opinion of the Democrat,” CNN reported. “Gardner, meanwhile, is viewed favorably by 50 percent of likely voters, with just 42 percent saying their opinion of him is unfavorable.”<br /><br />So, Gardner has this race in the bag, right? Not so fast.<br /><br />Liberal poll-watchers have been concerned about the quality of polling in the races this cycle, and in this state in particular. Several recent surveys of this race have suggested Udall underperforming among Hispanics, and even losing this key demographic to Gardner. This is giving some political analysts pause, and they have good evidence to back their concerns up.<br /><br />In 2010, GOP senatorial nominee Ken Buck appeared to be breaking away in his race against Michael Bennet. Heading into election day, Buck enjoyed a 3 point advantage over Bennett in the Real Clear Politics average of polls with the trend line suggesting the race was his to lose. Bennett, it turned out, emerged victorious.<br /><br />Gardner may be a victim of the same phenomenon. This state’s minorities are notoriously difficult to poll in midterm election cycles, and pollsters may not have learned the lessons of 2010.<br /><br />That note of caution aside, the electoral wind is unquestionably at Gardner’s back. He may yet prove that Colorado is still a purple state in November, but those who are urging skepticism are smart to do so.......<br /><br />http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/15/cory-gardner-pulling-away-in-colorado/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877200182060537865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-77401844704951746152014-10-15T15:38:06.148-04:002014-10-15T15:38:06.148-04:00I think I'm gonna order another Big Mac.I think I'm gonna order another Big Mac.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877200182060537865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-34805711983936774422014-10-15T15:37:26.547-04:002014-10-15T15:37:26.547-04:00DEMS LOWEST IN 30 YEARS.......drudge
Meanwhile -
...<br />DEMS LOWEST IN 30 YEARS.......drudge<br /><br />Meanwhile -<br /><br /><br />SNAP: FIRST LADY DANCES WITH TURNIP.........drudge<br /><br />Even Michelle's ballyhooed Healthy Lunch Program is a big flop.<br /><br />The kids are going on hunger strikes in the schools all across our great nation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877200182060537865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-28162336501737869782014-10-15T15:34:27.109-04:002014-10-15T15:34:27.109-04:00The Monopoly Game is in full swing at McDonald'...The Monopoly Game is in full swing at McDonald's, friends and neighbors and bloggers.<br /><br />You are missing out on all the fun !Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877200182060537865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-64505068907929791002014-10-15T15:32:51.060-04:002014-10-15T15:32:51.060-04:00People are beginning to see how badly they have be...People are beginning to see how badly they have been swindled by Obama and Company.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877200182060537865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-28503635673256947242014-10-15T15:31:08.556-04:002014-10-15T15:31:08.556-04:00ANOTHER Good News article out of New Hampshire -
...ANOTHER Good News article out of New Hampshire -<br /><br /><br />It’s Neck and Neck in the Bellwether State of New Hampshire<br />By Matthew Cooper / October 15, 2014 7:08 AM EDT<br /><br />http://www.newsweek.com/2014/10/24/its-neck-and-neck-bellwether-state-new-hampshire-277445.html<br /><br /><br />Follow The Elephants<br /><br />This game is becoming fun !<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877200182060537865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-79344261401381952342014-10-15T15:29:00.298-04:002014-10-15T15:29:00.298-04:00Sometimes, this game is just too easy. :)Sometimes, this game is just too easy. :)Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-67417610787160785982014-10-15T15:28:11.827-04:002014-10-15T15:28:11.827-04:00I, also, said that, as the waves got higher, the ...I, also, said that, as the waves got higher, the Eurozone would be the first to go under.<br /><br />Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.com