tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post8688048887539541860..comments2024-03-28T21:41:52.558-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Most members of Congress are on board with ISIS battle since it marries the liberal interventionist and neocon agenda of regime change in SyriaDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger148125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-86697195745831920942014-12-10T08:09:14.478-05:002014-12-10T08:09:14.478-05:00.
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The deal to send 150 Iraqi peshme....<br /><br />(continued…)<br /><br />The deal to send 150 Iraqi peshmerga to Kobane to help the Kurds there was cut back in October. It involved the US, Turkey, the Iraqi Kurds under Barzani, and the Syrian Kurds in Kobane.<br /><br />The US had been pressuring Turkey to actively join in the fight against IS in Syria but Turkey was balking for the reasons that have been discussed here before. Turkey laid out a number of demands that would have taken the war to Assad in Syria but the US demurred. It was a standoff, with Turkey refusing to do anything that would help the Syrian Kurds gain autonomy on its border. The standoff continued until the US notified Turkey they would be airlifting the supplies the Kurds needed inside Kobane (including presumably, heavy weapons).<br /><br />At that point, Turkey gave in. They would allow certain reinforcements and equipment into the city but also spelled out their conditions. Erdogan refused to allow either Turkish or Syrian Kurds to enter the fight through Turkey. However, because of the good relations he maintained with the Iraqi Kurd leader, Barzani, he agreed to allow Iraqi peshmerga to provide troops.<br /><br />Barzani agreed and was prepared to send what force was needed. The Syrian Kurds were not anxious to have the Iraqi Kurds involved. Because of the relationship between Erdogan and Barzani there was suspicion he had something up his sleeve. However, they did want the heavy weapons so they agreed to a non-combat troop of 150 along with weapons and equipment. Erdogan also agreed to allow 1500 FSA troops in.<br /><br />The agreement to send the Iraqi peshmerga troops into Kobane had zip to do with the Iraqi Security Force. It had zip to do with Haider Al-Abadi. Al Abadi could give a shit about the Syrian Kurds in Kobane. He wasn’t asked about it. He had no say in it. This was a deal cut by the US and Turkey.<br /><br />Try to get up to speed, rat.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-58100053847864424802014-12-10T08:07:14.087-05:002014-12-10T08:07:14.087-05:00.
Still, rat?
Really Legionnaire Q, you should d....<br /><br />Still, rat?<br /><br /><i>Really Legionnaire Q, you should do a little outside reading.</i><br /><br />Rat, it is one thing to read. It is quite another to understand. It is evident you have no clue as to the politics of the moves that led to a small group of Iraqi peshmerga being sent to Kobane. Heck, you can’t even decipher the meaning behind the words of the Iraqi Defense Minister or why he said them.<br /><br />Iraq needs the Kurds to protect their northern frontier and the oil in that region. When the Iraqi Security Forces fled the Kurds took over security for that region. But they didn’t do it for Baghdad. They did it for themselves and the oil.<br /><br />As for the peshmerga, under the agreement that set up the Kurdistan autonomous region, Baghdad agreed to pay the salaries of 30,000 peshmerga that formed a paramilitary police force for the region. However, beyond that force, Barzani controls another 187,000 peshmerga militiamen. And when I say controls, I mean the peshmerga consists of various militias that support the Kurdish parties there but Barzani is their elected leader and does the negotiating for all of them. They don’t report to the Iraqi Security Forces though they do coordinate with them.<br /><br />A couple months back it looked like the Kurds might seek and independent state carved out of Iraq. However, Barzani (evidently realizing it might be easier getting a state than maintaining one) decided to negotiate for more autonomy within Iraq instead.<br /><br />Since fighting off ISIS after their original surge, Kurds have been demanding more autonomy, the city of Kirkuk, more oil revenues, the money Baghdad cut off for paying for the Kurdish paramilitary police force, the revenue dollars they were owed AND heavy weaponry for the fight against IS which by US dictate has to come through Baghdad.<br /><br />It was only at the beginning of the month that most of these issues were resolved at least temporarily in an interim deal. No doubt impetus for the deal was the lower oil prices which is hurting both Baghdad and Irbil. Part of the deal was that Baghdad would pay Irbil $1 billion for salaries and equipment for their fighters for the fight against IS.<br /><br />It is not surprising then that a couple days after that agreement you would have Iraqi Defense Minister telling the Kurds you will get your heavy weapons, eventually.<br /><br /><b>HOWEVER, this had zip to do with the politics that resulted in the deal that sent 150 peshmerga to Kobane.<br /><br />That deal was worked out by the US, Turkey, Barzani, and the Syrian Kurds. Iraq had zip to say about it.</b><br /><br />(continued below…)<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-77016817035922415752014-12-10T02:09:26.624-05:002014-12-10T02:09:26.624-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42295957433647671812014-12-10T02:06:08.147-05:002014-12-10T02:06:08.147-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-59760233983394460672014-12-10T00:03:36.835-05:002014-12-10T00:03:36.835-05:00I see the rat shit is still bullshitting. Another ...I see the rat shit is still bullshitting. Another long day for the rat.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877200182060537865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-34787249893435239452014-12-10T00:01:52.043-05:002014-12-10T00:01:52.043-05:00We have one person here, Rufus, who feels your guy...We have one person here, Rufus, who feels your guy got us into this Big Pickle, and it's going to take more than the plagiarized "Rat Doctrine" to get us out of it.<br /><br />You used to stay you didn't give a shit about any part of the entire mid - east. Let them kill each other, you used to say.<br /><br />I may be coming around to your former way of thinking........Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877200182060537865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-54994372241966433352014-12-09T21:38:47.704-05:002014-12-09T21:38:47.704-05:00The latest incident striking a Damascus’ internati...<i>The latest incident striking a Damascus’ international airport warehouse. Believed to contain Iranian and Russian-supplied weapons.<br /><br />...<br /><br />A Syrian Foreign Ministry letter to Ban Ki-moon and Chadian Security Council president Mahamat Zene Cherif said in part:<br /><br /> “The Syrian government called for imposing deterring sanctions on Israel, which did not hide its policy in supporting terrorism, calling also on taking all procedures, in accordance with the UN Charter, to prevent Israel from repeating such attacks.”<br /><br />...<br /><br />Iranian Foreign Minister spokeswoman Marziyeh Afkham strongly condemned Israeli air strikes, saying:<br /><br /> “The Zionist regime intends to misuse Syria’s critical conditions, but the consequences of warmongerings will backfire on the regime.”</i>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-84460452014984869362014-12-09T21:07:35.983-05:002014-12-09T21:07:35.983-05:00I understand why the Zionists are rooting for al-Q...I understand why the Zionists are rooting for al-Qeada.<br />Mr Oren made it plain, Israel would accept al-Qeada operatives taking power in Syria.<br />Th JPost reported it, and has never retracted the report.<br /><br />The long term Israeli goal is to fragment Lebanon, Syria and Iraq into sectarian pieces. So our Zionists are parroting their Supreme Leaders' agitprop, as good <i>Social Media Commandos</i> are expected to do.<br /><br />Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson wants to see the US military bleeding out in the desert sands. Fighting for people fully capable of fighting for themselves. Robert wants the blood and treasure of the US to be spilled in Iraq. <br /><br />The Legionnaire Q, no telling why, but he wants US to "Cut and Run".<br /><br /><br /><br />Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-39764152782182462742014-12-09T20:51:39.460-05:002014-12-09T20:51:39.460-05:00The buzz word for the delusional paranoid - 'n...The buzz word for the delusional paranoid - 'nuclear'<br />Then add the word device, and they piss their pants.<br /><br />Which smells no worse than the cat pissing on Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson's slippers.Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42713291813766722482014-12-09T20:48:23.930-05:002014-12-09T20:48:23.930-05:00I realize that, Rufus, but the truth remains the s...I realize that, Rufus, but the truth remains the same, no matter what those that believe the US should "Cut and Run" or "Invade and Conquer" feel.<br /><br />The facts are the facts, and whether the malcontents like it or not, the US is engaged, it is engaged in a low risk, high reward campaign. Now the Daesh have a nuclear device, scares me not.<br /><br />It the "Draft Dodger" were to rob a dentists office, then mix up some ammonia nitrate and diesel fuel, he could have a 'nuclear device', too.Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-68198572732480668302014-12-09T20:41:57.853-05:002014-12-09T20:41:57.853-05:00We have about 5 people, here, Rat, that just do no...We have about 5 people, here, Rat, that just do not want the United States to be successful in this endeavor against ISIS. <br /><br />It's a strange situation, but true.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-41562641798843352782014-12-09T20:35:03.400-05:002014-12-09T20:35:03.400-05:00Seems that Legionnaire Q has studied Lewis Carroll...Seems that Legionnaire Q has studied Lewis Carroll and sees himself in the Humpty Dumpty role.<br /><br /><i> "‘When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone,<br /> ‘it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.'</i><br /><br />As long as it <b>feels right</b> the Legionnaire Q is a happy fella.<br /><br /><i>“The truth, as much as people acted like they wanted to hear it,<br /> was sometimes too cruel and harsh.” </i><br />― Laura Kreitzer<br /><br /><br /><br />Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-34491380141631871512014-12-09T20:23:54.659-05:002014-12-09T20:23:54.659-05:00" ... like other Iraqi troops,”<i><b>" ... like other Iraqi troops,”</b></i>Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-53764948587265352422014-12-09T20:21:32.949-05:002014-12-09T20:21:32.949-05:00ERBIL-Hewlêr, Kurdistan region 'Iraq',— Ir...<a href="http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2014/11/govt2389.htm" rel="nofollow">ERBIL-Hewlêr, Kurdistan region 'Iraq',</a>—<i> Iraq said it would supply semiautonomous Kurdistan region with its needs for heavy weapons to help Kurdish fighters battling militants of the Islamic State group.<br />...<br /><b>“The Peshmerga are part of the Iraqi defense system and our support is with them. What the army has is for the Peshmerga, and what is required from the army is required from the Peshmerga,”</b> Defense Minister Khaled al-Obeidi said on Tuesday.<br /> Weapons for Peshmerga<br /><br />The Baghdad central government will also supply Peshmerga fighters with heavy weapons when it gets the arms it contracted on, Obeidi added.<br /><br /><b>“When we have weapons, God willing, they will have their share like other Iraqi troops,” </b>Obeidi said after a tour of a Peshmerga training center in the Kurdish city of Irbil.</i><br /><br />Now, for those that need a little more ...<br /><br /><i>Semi-autonomous Definition<br />dictionary.search.yahoo.com<br />adj. adjective<br /><br /> <b> Partially self-governing.<br /><br /> Having the powers of self-government within a larger organization or structure.</b></i><br /><br />Iraqi Kurdistan - Not Independent.<br />Semi-autonomous, like Michigan.Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-22193492387168134692014-12-09T20:12:54.751-05:002014-12-09T20:12:54.751-05:00The Iraqi Security Forces are made up of a variety...The Iraqi Security Forces are made up of a variety of local militias, as well as the Iraqi Army.<br /><br />The Kurds of Iraq are part of that country, there is no "Independent Kurdistan"<br />The Kurdish militia, the Peshmerga, is part of the Iraqi Security Forces. <br />Just as the Michigan National Guard is part of the US military.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.krg.org/a/d.aspx?s=040000&l=12&a=52459" rel="nofollow">Iraqi Defense Minister visits the Kurdistan Region</a><br /><br /><i> The importance of continuous and consistent cooperation between Peshmerga and Iraqi Army forces was acknowledged. Iraq’s Defense Minister commended the effectiveness of Peshmerga forces in confronting threats to the country’s security, highlighting achievement in recovering Zumar and Rabia towns from ISIS terrorists.<br /><b><br />The Defense Minister affirmed the Peshmerga forces as important and integral part of Iraq's defense system. </b></i><br /><br />Really Legionnaire Q, you should do a little outside reading.Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-6967774603357327182014-12-09T20:06:06.212-05:002014-12-09T20:06:06.212-05:00The JPost is reporting lies?
Take it up with the J...The JPost is reporting lies?<br />Take it up with the JPost, when they post a retraction, let us know.<br /><br />http://www.jpost.com/Syria-Crisis/Oren-Jerusalem-has-wanted-Assad-ousted-since-the-outbreak-of-the-Syrian-civil-war-326328<br />Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-18736186908964617772014-12-09T20:02:58.407-05:002014-12-09T20:02:58.407-05:00Thieves respect property. They merely wish the pr...<i>Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it. </i> ~G.K. Chesterton<br />Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-57374939789509123852014-12-09T20:00:34.364-05:002014-12-09T20:00:34.364-05:00Should the US bomb Berlin, London or Paris, to des...Should the US bomb Berlin, London or Paris, to destroy this rumored device?<br /><br />Should we utilize 'carpet bombing', strategic bombing or close air support?<br />Perhaps you think that an invasion of France or Belgium is justified by this supposed threat?Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-79517088150817671972014-12-09T19:58:12.564-05:002014-12-09T19:58:12.564-05:00The 'radioactive device' is in Kobane?<i><b>The</b> 'radioactive device' is in Kobane?</i>Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-4915490898848915582014-12-09T19:57:31.885-05:002014-12-09T19:57:31.885-05:00There 'radioactive device' is in Kobane?
M...There 'radioactive device' is in Kobane?<br />Mosul?<br /><br />Where is it, but in the recesses of your internalized paranoia?Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-65906267148301851532014-12-09T19:56:04.787-05:002014-12-09T19:56:04.787-05:00Not at all, "Draft Dodger", the Rat Doct...Not at all, "Draft Dodger", the <b>Rat Doctrine</b> is a tactical venture, one that will keep US soldiers and Marines from getting killed. I know that is meaningless to a draft dodger, such as Robert Peterson, but civic minded citizens do care about the lives of their fellows.<br /><br />As for the "Bigger War", the failures, if there are failures, are not in the application of the <b>Rat Doctrine</b>.Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-14888779928433864012014-12-09T19:35:50.778-05:002014-12-09T19:35:50.778-05:00Israel is familiar with early elections. Since 199...<i>Israel is familiar with early elections. Since 1996, only one government was able to serve a full term, which is four years.<br /><br />Led by Netanyahu, the current coalition government took office in early 2013. However, Netanyahu was harshly criticized by his right-wing coalition partners over his hard-liner policies.<br /><br />"I will not tolerate any opposition in my government," said Netanyahu and stated that the division among the coalition made it impossible to lead the country and made early elections inevitable.</i>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-68198880792651387212014-12-09T19:05:57.085-05:002014-12-09T19:05:57.085-05:00What is truly entertaining and amusing ...
allen r...What is truly entertaining and amusing ...<br />allen references a Rabbi, who has written that Jews are responsibile for the coarsening of US culture, that all of US know this, but are to polite to mention it. Others would lay the reticence on "Political Correctness".<br /><br />When asked if Rabbi Lapkin is a what "O"rdure continually refers to as a <i>Self-Loathing Jew</i>, allen replies with nothing but vapor.<br /><br /><i><b>“I’m not asking if they’ve forgotten how to be Jews, but if they’ve forgotten how to be decent human beings. <br />Have they forgotten how to converse?” </b></i><br />- Reuven Rivlin, President of Israel<br />Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-85899905440836157222014-12-09T18:29:46.517-05:002014-12-09T18:29:46.517-05:00Good thing that the Republicans control the House ...Good thing that the Republicans control the House of Representatives, the purse strings of the government.<br />Soon they will have control of both the House and the Senate.<br /><br /><i><b><br />GOP Spending Bill Gives Nearly $1 Billion To Aid Border Migrants<br />$948 million to help Central American migrants establish themselves in the United States</b><br /><br />The GOP’s draft 2015 “omnibus” spending bill reportedly includes $948 million to help poor and unskilled Central American migrants establish themselves in the United States, but includes no effective restrictions on President Barack Obama’s plan to provide work permits and tax payments to millions of resident illegal immigrants.</i><br />Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-59128655997866282102014-12-09T18:15:57.911-05:002014-12-09T18:15:57.911-05:00You wish you could think.You wish you could think.Rat remains a figment of the Draft Dodger's imaginationnoreply@blogger.com