tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post8227735999379822774..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: When the wheels come off.Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-86503940611557126012007-03-18T02:38:00.000-04:002007-03-18T02:38:00.000-04:00Lance Corporal Matty Hull: RIPMy response was not ...Lance Corporal Matty Hull: RIP<BR/><BR/>My response was not intended to be coldly callous. This young man is deserving of all honor. His widow is owed our sympathy, prayers, and generous, unsolicited compensation.<BR/><BR/>We must guard the memory of this fine young man and the equally honorable men who inadvertently caused is untimely demise. That will not be done within a politically driven kangaroo inquest. Doubtless, within such a circus, the cause and service of these men will be dishonored.<BR/><BR/>Order Arms! Salute!allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-63021346455811138912007-03-17T22:58:00.000-04:002007-03-17T22:58:00.000-04:00I would venture to guess, Ms T, that the rules of ...I would venture to guess, Ms T, that the rules of engagement for the Kansas City M16s are reasonably stringent & restrictive. <BR/><BR/>I doubt the Kansas City PD fires first, by Policy.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-89920193973608521972007-03-17T21:50:00.000-04:002007-03-17T21:50:00.000-04:00Desert Rat: What is an acceptable risk at war beco...Desert Rat: <I>What is an acceptable risk at war becomes a negligent violation of Force Protection procedures in a constabulary enviorment.</I><BR/><BR/>In Kansas City the constables are up-arming to M16s to give them a fighting chance in the ongoing gang war. <BR/><BR/>Exceptions to the rule that British constables are not armed: <BR/><BR/>Every territorial force maintains <B>specialist</B> armed response units, while one territorial force (the Police Service of Northern Ireland) and two of the national, special police forces (the Civil Nuclear Constabulary and the Ministry of Defence Police) are routinely armed.<BR/><BR/>In other words, each force has one special unit permitted to actually have guns, with actual bullets, plus special allowance is made to give the police in terror-torn Ulster guns, along with the guys who guard the nuke plants and the MPs. <BR/><BR/>The Iraq War became a police action by 2004. Three years later, here comes the "surge" where Bush shifted from the UK paradigm to the Kansas City paradigm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-56442683322446705852007-03-17T17:38:00.000-04:002007-03-17T17:38:00.000-04:00scared = scarredscared = scarredallenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-47835140246984976622007-03-17T16:39:00.000-04:002007-03-17T16:39:00.000-04:00The Brits have a thing about investigating the dea...The Brits have a thing about investigating the deaths of their Nationals overseas. <BR/><BR/>Look at the time that they have been spent on the Coroner inquiries into Princess Dianas' demise.<BR/><BR/>They've had, what, two or three coroner investigations into a death that occurred in Paris, France.<BR/><BR/>So it does not seem out of character to investigate a subjects' death in Iraq.<BR/><BR/>When Wars are not wars, but constabulary actions, that's when the lines between accidents and negligence can become blurry.<BR/><BR/>What is an acceptable risk at war becomes a negligent violation of Force Protection procedures in a constabulary enviorment.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-38998276857529893332007-03-17T15:53:00.000-04:002007-03-17T15:53:00.000-04:00That's what happens when fools and demagogues try ...That's what happens when fools and demagogues try to score cheap points at the expense of honorable men, whose lives will forever be scared by one of war's inevitable tragedies.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and since when does a foreign, civilian "coroner" have jurisdiction over the military affairs of the United States? Other than in his own little bailiwick, obviously, he has none. His finding will have no impact other than the political one he set to prove.<BR/><BR/>Hell, let's dig up the newly dead at Arlington, since at least 15% of the dead were probably lost to friendly fire. Let the inquests begin! Let's denigrate, dishonor, and destroy the last shred of patriotic decency! No sacrifice is too great to shame the evil, liar Bush and America’s vicious, unlawful, neo-colonial war.<BR/><BR/>Compensate the widow. Move on.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-85909127027026507132007-03-17T14:41:00.000-04:002007-03-17T14:41:00.000-04:00That's what happens when Wars become policing ente...That's what happens when Wars become policing enterprises against "criminal elements", soldiers & airmen will be held to the same standards as civilian Police.<BR/><BR/>Police do fire unless fired upon, or to save an innocent from a deadly threat. The planes took no incoming fire from the British convoy, of that we can be sure. The convoy poised no immediate threat to the innocent, either.<BR/><BR/>Seems the coroner came to a reasonable conclusion in regards to the Standards of War we've allowed to be set.<BR/><BR/>We've painted the signs, now will we get upset when others read them?desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.com