tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post8080313551605039659..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: They All Have One Thing in Common. Lovely Islam.Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-43716106661351530152007-06-16T09:57:00.000-04:002007-06-16T09:57:00.000-04:00DR,re: Wilson & PlameI hadn't even thought of that...DR,<BR/><BR/>re: Wilson & Plame<BR/><BR/>I hadn't even thought of that. Hmmm... My wife is better looking.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-76140096874184956122007-06-16T07:31:00.000-04:002007-06-16T07:31:00.000-04:00allen,While pithy remarks come and go, I meant to ...allen,<BR/>While pithy remarks come and go, I meant to cast no aspersions upon your anonimity.<BR/><BR/>Nor would I suggest that we do a Plame job on your wife, or that you're to be compared to Mr Wilson in doing so.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42978996979956994552007-06-16T06:52:00.000-04:002007-06-16T06:52:00.000-04:00trish,re: It was the wife's identityThanks.Obvious...trish,<BR/><BR/>re: It was the wife's identity<BR/><BR/>Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, hurriedly reading others posts while antiicpating pithy, clever retorts, can cause serious errors - say confusing the motives of one with another. Clearly, that is not the case with you in the instance.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-17122346349360376552007-06-16T01:01:00.000-04:002007-06-16T01:01:00.000-04:00"He always thought his 'true identity' worth hidin..."He always thought his 'true identity' worth hiding, due to security concerns."<BR/><BR/>It was the wife's identity.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-43509515838379338202007-06-16T00:41:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:41:00.000-04:00For clarification, from the CSM article..."But the...For clarification, from the CSM article...<BR/><BR/>"But there are some signs that America's premier fighter jet, the F-16 Fighting Falcon"<BR/><BR/>is incorrect, although the F-16 is a fantastic machine, it is not America's premier fighterElijahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09180395617090150228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42806247917837033702007-06-16T00:32:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:32:00.000-04:00"Who has an opfor airforce, that's capable, today,..."Who has an opfor airforce, that's capable, today, anyway?"<BR/><BR/>That's exactly the point.<BR/><BR/>How would Iran, Syria, or Hezbollah counter U.S./Israeli air superiority?<BR/><BR/>It is a matter of willingness to employ violence.<BR/><BR/>Russian technology is impressive, but still lacking overall<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1128/p01s04-wosc.html" REL="nofollow">Indian Air Force, in war games, gives US a run</A><BR/><BR/>The Warthogs, the flying crosses (one of my favorites), are currently undergoing upgrades....<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123040960" REL="nofollow">Air Force Reserve A-10s get 'smart' systems <BR/></A>Elijahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09180395617090150228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-30030853344978405332007-06-16T00:25:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:25:00.000-04:00"We need more A10s, not mega million dollar missle..."We need more A10s, not mega million dollar missle platforms."<BR/><BR/>Ran the pilots into the ground in the 90's. Didn't know whether they were coming or going.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-79948798882186536962007-06-16T00:19:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:19:00.000-04:00allen's been institutionalized.Thought he'd alread...allen's been institutionalized.<BR/><BR/>Thought he'd already retired, waiting on momma to finish up her career. <BR/><BR/>Who really knows, or cares, though.<BR/>He always thought his "true identity" worth hiding, due to security concerns.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-25687122563939743012007-06-16T00:16:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:16:00.000-04:00This is what happens when fast movers are used, as...This is what happens when fast movers are used, as they propose for the F22, in close air support roles.<BR/><BR/>According to the NYTimes<BR/><I>A United States Air Force F-16 crashed early Friday morning while flying a close air support mission. No information was available on whether the pilot, who was the only crew member, survived. It was one of several recent signs of an intensification in the use of air power to monitor insurgent activities and search for cars rigged as suicide bombs. </I><BR/><BR/>Lose a couple of F22s like that, it'd bust a budget. Then there'll be no close air support, for the ground pounder.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-25037448082650673832007-06-16T00:11:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:11:00.000-04:00"It's way, way past time for that."Then you've sta..."It's way, way past time for that."<BR/><BR/>Then you've stayed way, way too long.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-55870504522225227682007-06-16T00:10:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:10:00.000-04:00The tigerhawk story just confirms the trends, firs...The tigerhawk story just confirms the trends, first to drones, then the flyboys pulling out all the stops to save both their new toys from cancellation creep.<BR/><BR/>Read that there'd be as many F22s as infantry rifle squads or some such crazy sounding comparison.<BR/><BR/>More to indicate the Armys' dysfuntion, more than the F22s, but I'm an old ground pounding, helo riding combat engineer. Still see those fighters as weapons without opponents.<BR/><BR/>Who has an opfor airforce, that's capable, today, anyway?<BR/><BR/>We need more A10s, not mega million dollar missle platforms.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-72421950583094199872007-06-16T00:02:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:02:00.000-04:00sorry, meant to say brother d-day instead of wretc...sorry, meant to say brother d-day instead of wretchardElijahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09180395617090150228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-56307104972582188272007-06-15T23:49:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:49:00.000-04:00Barkeep another Makers with a splash of gingeroh, ...Barkeep another Makers with a splash of ginger<BR/><BR/>oh, woe the anglos and hewbrews<BR/><BR/>dr and wretchard - kaplan is a good read<BR/><BR/>dr - droid swarm...<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2007/06/b-52-blogging.html" REL="nofollow">The main emphasis of the article seems to be electronic warfare and SEAD with regards to Iran.</A> <BR/><BR/>sam & panama ed, continuing the discussion from feb.28th and related to the above<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2005/10/supersonic-sigint-will-f35-f22-also-play-ew-role/index.php" REL="nofollow">continuing the aesa discussion, see the links in the article</A><BR/><BR/>allen -<BR/><BR/>seems to me that anyone in Gaza with a rifle is a targetElijahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09180395617090150228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-89909379263620332672007-06-15T23:39:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:39:00.000-04:00The Bush Team, promises to not enforce the current...The Bush Team, promises to not enforce the current Law.<BR/><BR/><I> Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Wednesday said Republican conservatives working to block an immigration bill risk endorsing a "silent amnesty" by insisting on deportations that are "not going to happen."</I><BR/><BR/>Enough said.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-85250141527794601182007-06-15T23:36:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:36:00.000-04:00desert rat said...Wretchard, at the BC has just re...<I>desert rat said...<BR/><BR/>Wretchard, at the BC has just realized that it is not Iran that is flanked by the US, but the US and Israel that are both flankedby the mussulmen. </I><BR/><BR/>When a country on "War Footing" is instructed to Go Shopping by the Boner-in-Charge to support the War Effort, you got some issues.<BR/><BR/>It'll be interesting to see if Wretch comes to the Dark Side.<BR/><BR/>In the meantime, let's just <A HREF="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-05-23-chertoff-immigration_N.htm" REL="nofollow">Get real</A>Brother D-Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11416004913872204554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-68078175253032510912007-06-15T23:21:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:21:00.000-04:00trish,re: it's time to consider another line of wo...trish,<BR/><BR/>re: it's time to consider another line of work.<BR/><BR/>It's way, way past time for that. I will walk out carrying my shield or I will be carried out on it.<BR/><BR/>Oh, what is my line of work?allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-47367237848525110012007-06-15T22:36:00.000-04:002007-06-15T22:36:00.000-04:00Wretchard, at the BC has just realized that it is ...Wretchard, at the BC has just realized that it is not Iran that is flanked by the US, but the US and Israel that are both flankedby the mussulmen.<BR/><BR/>He's come to realize that the US is not fighting a War. After all this time, an ephinay.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-27495705786242901112007-06-15T22:08:00.000-04:002007-06-15T22:08:00.000-04:00Elijah,Neat link. I think Fatah will get its ass h...Elijah,<BR/><BR/>Neat link. <BR/><BR/>I think Fatah will get its ass handed to it in the West Bank soon.<BR/><BR/>Its leaders are the Collaborators in the eyes of Palis everywhere. <BR/><BR/>The US, Israel and EU are all behind Abbas, the carrier of the flame of Arafat the Corrupt.<BR/><BR/>Hamas and Hizb'allah. THEY are believers. They are righteous, everyone else is scrambling to save his own skin.<BR/><BR/>Under Olmert, the Israelis are not motivated. They don't believe. They are compromising themselves into cattle cars.<BR/><BR/>The responses from DC, Tel Aviv and Brussels might as well be the Little Dutch Boy discussing Comprehensive Dam Repair.Brother D-Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11416004913872204554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-17954972704053773212007-06-15T22:04:00.000-04:002007-06-15T22:04:00.000-04:00If you have grave and irreconcilable objections to...If you have grave and irreconcilable objections to policy, it's time to consider another line of work.<BR/><BR/>Everyone's got their limit.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-84166943476992900802007-06-15T21:49:00.000-04:002007-06-15T21:49:00.000-04:00Tribute, we've been payin' it for years, called by...Tribute, we've been payin' it for years, called by different names, but it amounts to the same thing each time.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-57723332750415949932007-06-15T21:44:00.000-04:002007-06-15T21:44:00.000-04:00“Congress has responded to the Hamas victory with ...“Congress has responded to the Hamas victory with a threat to cut off all U.S. aid to the PA. A bill formulated in the House, led by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Florida Republican and chair of the House subcommittee on the Middle East and Central Asia, would place the PA on the State Department’s list of terrorist sponsors.<BR/> <BR/>But the administration plans to oppose the bill. Officials said President Bush has quietly decided to continue aid to the PA to prevent an Arab backlash as well as Iranian efforts to take over the West Bank and Gaza Strip.<BR/> <BR/>"The president will tell Congress that helping the PA is an integral part of the U.S. withdrawal strategy from Iraq," an official said.” – News World Communications, Insight on the News, 6 Feb ‘06<BR/> <BR/>If the Administration does continue to fund the PA (Hamas) by either the front door or back, can a Jewish service member continue to serve in the Armed Forces of the United States? <BR/> <BR/>Recall that Hamas has institutionalized three precepts within its Constitution (now the de facto constitution of the PA):<BR/>___the destruction of the state of Israel<BR/>___the conversion, enslavement or extermination of the Jewish people, worldwide<BR/>___the destruction of our Torah<BR/> <BR/>Moreover, if the Administration’s alleged concern about continued Iranian aggression is sincere, is not the purported action of Iran another act or declaration of war, much like its attack on our embassy and the hostage taking of our diplomats in 1979 or the murder of 241 service members in Beirut in 1983? Iran and Hamas are staunch allies. Therefore, rather than seeking funding for Hamas from Congress, should not the Administration seek of Congress a Declaration of War? <BR/> <BR/>With respect, if Administration spokesmen do come to claim that Hamas was brought to power because of its obvious social outreach and that said outreach is sufficient justification for continued financial support of the PA, this would be as disingenuous, irrelevant and immoral as arguing for the support of Adolph XXXXXX and the Nazi regime because they put millions of restive, bellicose, unemployed Germans back to work. Indeed, they did, among other things building concentration camps and factories for the murder and wartime enslavement of European Jewry; not to mention, of course, the deaths of 40 – 60 million other souls, including nearly a quarter million American service personnel.<BR/> <BR/>Additionally, the Administration supports democracy in the Middle East, i.e. by definition – “rule by the people.” Well, the folk of the PA have spoken, among other things, electing a member of parliament self-named “Hitler”. The election was no squeaker; Hamas won handily and garnered so many seats that it may rule arbitrarily, needing no coalition partner. So, the people of the PA are the government and the government (Hamas) is the people - following the lead of Lincoln, “Government of the people, by the people, for the people. This outcome should come as no surprise, given that every poll done for years has shown that the citizens of the PA overwhelming support Hamas’ three precepts above.<BR/> <BR/>If a service member continues to serve in the military under such a circumstance, is this not the same thing as countenancing, supporting and protecting Hamas? Would this be not both suicidal and an act of the utmost apostasy? In the event, would not the United States, through the action of the Administration, have abandoned to their fate its Jewish service members (and all Jewish Americans for that matter) to perverse, cynical and homicidal expediency? <BR/> <BR/>Finally, if my government does in fact give aid and comfort to a regime whose sole purpose for existence is the annihilation of me, my family, my people, my religion and my safe haven, have not, in fact, the terrorists won? <BR/> <BR/>Just asking, respectfully.<BR/> <BR/>Be well,<BR/> <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>“Congress has responded to the Hamas victory with a threat to cut off all U.S. aid to the PA. A bill formulated in the House, led by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Florida Republican and chair of the House subcommittee on the Middle East and Central Asia, would place the PA on the State Department’s list of terrorist sponsors.<BR/> <BR/>But the administration plans to oppose the bill. Officials said President Bush has quietly decided to continue aid to the PA to prevent an Arab backlash as well as Iranian efforts to take over the West Bank and Gaza Strip.<BR/> <BR/>"The president will tell Congress that helping the PA is an integral part of the U.S. withdrawal strategy from Iraq," an official said.” – News World Communications, Insight on the News, 6 Feb ‘06<BR/> <BR/>If the Administration does continue to fund the PA (Hamas) by either the front door or (surreptitiously) through the back, can a Jewish service member continue to serve in the Armed Forces of the United States? <BR/> <BR/>Recall that Hamas has institutionalized three unalterable precepts within its Constitution (now the de facto constitution of the PA):<BR/>___the destruction of the state of Israel<BR/>___the conversion, enslavement or extermination of the Jewish people, worldwide<BR/>___the destruction of our Torah<BR/> <BR/>Moreover, if the Administration’s alleged concern about continued Iranian militancy in the West Bank and Gaza is sincere, is not the purported action of Iran another act of war, much like its attack on our embassy and the hostage taking of our diplomats in 1979 or the murder of 241 service members in Beirut in 1983? Iran and Hamas are staunch allies. Therefore, rather than seeking funding for Hamas from Congress, should not the Administration seek of Congress a Declaration of War? <BR/> <BR/>With respect, if Administration spokesmen do come to claim that Hamas was brought to power because of its obvious social outreach and that said outreach is sufficient justification for continued financial support of the PA, would this not be as disingenuous, irrelevant and immoral as arguing for the support of Adolph XXXXXX and the Nazi regime because they put millions of restive, bellicose, genocidal, unemployed Germans back to work? Indeed, they did, among other things building concentration camps and factories for the murder and wartime enslavement of European Jewry; not to mention, of course, the deaths of 40 – 60 million other souls, including nearly a quarter-million American service personnel.<BR/> <BR/>Additionally, the Administration supports democracy in the Middle East, i.e. (by definition) “rule by the people.” Well, the folk of the PA have spoken, among other things, electing a member to parliament with the nom de guerre “Hitler” (the highest vote getter besides the Hamas elite). The election was no squeaker; Hamas won handily and garnered so many seats that it may rule arbitrarily, needing no coalition partner. So, the people of the PA are the government and the government (Hamas) is the people - following the sacrosanct tenet of Lincoln, “Government of the people, by the people, for the people.” This outcome should come as no surprise, given that every poll done for years has shown that the citizens of the PA overwhelming support Hamas’ three genocidal precepts above.<BR/> <BR/>If a Jew continues to serve in the military under such a circumstance, is this not the same thing as countenancing, supporting and protecting Hamas? (A certified terrorist mafia) Would this be not suicidal, patricidal and an act of the utmost apostasy? In the event, would not the United States, through the action of the Administration, have abandoned to their mortal fate its Jewish service members (and all Jewish Americans for that matter) to perverse, cynical and homicidal expediency? <BR/> <BR/> If my government does in fact give aid and comfort to a regime (Hamas), whose sole purpose for existence is the annihilation of me, my family, my people, my religion and my safe haven, have not, in fact, the terrorists won? And, what, then, exactly is the Global War on Terrorism?<BR/> <BR/>Finally, to honorable men everywhere, for myself only, I may have to say, “J’accuse!” and I will say, “Never again!”<BR/> <BR/>Just asking, respectfully.<BR/> <BR/>Long live the United States! Long live Israel! Long live our Torah!allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-10307563678299243802007-06-15T21:37:00.000-04:002007-06-15T21:37:00.000-04:00Check your e-mail duece & whit, if you would.Check your e-mail duece & whit, if you would.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-85132478891617765332007-06-15T21:08:00.000-04:002007-06-15T21:08:00.000-04:00This one is for you, allen.As Jr's buddies were be...This one is for you, allen.<BR/><BR/>As Jr's buddies were being called back to the Corps, after their 12 months out, he decided to act premptively, he joined the Guard.<BR/><BR/>After his third trip to the NG base in Mesa, AZ he got his basic set of uniforms and equipment.<BR/><BR/>Excepting head gear. No hats, caps or berets were in stock. <BR/><BR/>His first weekend meeting was coming up, still no hat. What should I do, he asked? <BR/>Go in uniform, without the hat?<BR/><BR/>And be out of uniform, says I. An ex-Marine Corporal running around the place with no head gear? Unacceptable, go in civvies, then they'll find you a hat. So better take your uniform, says I.<BR/><BR/>By the end of the day, they had found him a hat, to late in the day to change clothes.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-3111079401062160722007-06-15T20:58:00.000-04:002007-06-15T20:58:00.000-04:00trish,So the Devil and the Adminstration are one? ...trish,<BR/><BR/>So the Devil and the Adminstration are one? I'm being rhetorical and redundent. Sorry.<BR/><BR/>The Bush administration theme song:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy3hB8ERBvI" REL="nofollow">I’ll Never Grow Up</A><BR/><BR/>***allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-60421381166203185512007-06-15T20:56:00.000-04:002007-06-15T20:56:00.000-04:00"Because when the Commanding General says you can'..."Because when the Commanding General says you can't win, why stay for the fight?"<BR/><BR/>It's the worst possible combination of not winning and having to do so through numerous tours. Treading water, as Bing said. Again. And again. And again. <BR/><BR/>Waiting for the 18-month deployment to materialize for the at-bats after Xmas.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.com