tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post6616848194551270240..comments2024-03-28T03:47:46.544-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: You want Respect? Show Respect. Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-33226008025093582382017-02-25T14:14:23.583-05:002017-02-25T14:14:23.583-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-30745015929983422692017-02-25T14:07:32.588-05:002017-02-25T14:07:32.588-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-24949794195371043142017-02-25T13:35:43.408-05:002017-02-25T13:35:43.408-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-53288457423875675442017-02-25T13:12:48.718-05:002017-02-25T13:12:48.718-05:00.
Quirk will need to explain this all to us -
L....<br /><br /><i>Quirk will need to explain this all to us -</i><br /><br /><br />Lord, Bob, how thick are you? <br /><br />Explain it to you? I've explained it to you a dozen times before. It's an <i>American Thinker</i> article.<br /><br />What don't you get about a 'he said, she said' battle in which charges of corruption are being thrown around by the two sides and $ millions have apparently been bilked from donations?<br /><br />Do you think this kind of thing is restricted to Muslims?<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV-GEp5PAcQ" rel="nofollow">Fight Breaks out in Baptist Church over Money</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O4hVnLGAgM" rel="nofollow">Fight Breaks Out in Ukraine Parliament</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIQQjFBL_Kk" rel="nofollow">This one is kinda cute</a><br /><br />I know you are bit of a pacifist and have no concept of how these things could possibly happen. I realize that you have led a sheltered life. But when you see actions like this you should learn to ask yourself 'is this type of behavior restricted to one specific sub-group of people.'<br /><br />The first thing you have to do is actually think rather than emote.<br /><br />Do you have any proof it is restricted to that sub-group?<br /><br />Are you sure?<br /><br />For if you state it as such, you have to be prepared to be made to look like a fool.<br /><br />Again.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-51833314885705970472017-02-25T12:35:33.429-05:002017-02-25T12:35:33.429-05:00.
Quirk, you're persuasive when you want to b....<br /><br /><i>Quirk, you're persuasive when you want to be....I think it's up to you and people like you, maybe even including Ash, though he's a known lame brain, to get in there and deal with these folks.</i><br /><br />These folks?<br /><br />La Pen and Geller?<br /><br />I would but I am a strong supporter of freedom of speech which in this case also equates to <br />allowing a fool to prove it in their own words.<br /><br />.<br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-79507174941726443862017-02-25T12:19:49.976-05:002017-02-25T12:19:49.976-05:00.
Re: The jihadwatch article...
What the hell is....<br /><br />Re: The jihadwatch article...<br /><br /><i>What the hell is going on, Quirk ?<br /><br />It's almost as if the Religion of Peace is rejecting Peace.<br /><br />How can this be ??<br /><br />Please explain, Quirk.</i><br /><br /><br />Bob, How friggin stupid are you?<br /><br />I keep asking that question and you keep answering every time with a jihadwatch article and the answer is 'Pretty damn stupid.'<br /><br />What do you think the response would be from thousands of Catholic parishes (or Morman or Jewish or Evangelicals) to a note from some group calling itself the Catholic (Jewish, Mormon, et al) Reform Movement that says we are willing to come in and change the basic tenets, ideology, and basis of your religion? <br /><br />The declaration assumes that all the Muslim communities in the US condone and abide by the more radical interpretations of the Koran. That's silly. The numbers don't back it up. Polls don't back it up. The assimilation in places like Dearborn don't back it up.<br /><br />Do people try to reform current Jewish theology and ritual because of some of the more questionable passages in the Bible? If they did they would be called anti-Semite.<br /><br />Hard core Islamist and terrorist groups profess to accept everything in the Koran literally. So do nut jobs like you.<br /><br />.<br /><br />If these guys are all that anxious to 'reform' Islam why don't they go to the nexus, Saudi Arabia or Iran?<br /><br />.<br /><br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-35397605666646527282017-02-25T07:24:33.974-05:002017-02-25T07:24:33.974-05:00The report was seized on by Marine Le Pen’s Nation...<b>The report was seized on by Marine Le Pen’s National Front as validating its call to have Islamists detained or deported.</b><br /><br />Some 15,000 people in France are followers of radical Islam, with a further 680, including about 275 women, thought to have joined jihadist movements in Iraq and Syria, the Socialist government has estimated. There are deep concerns in the intelligence community that many French who fought in Islamist ranks abroad will now return and try to wreak violence back home.<br /><br />Mr Hollande is said to have ordered military chiefs to take as few as possible French Isil fighters prisoner, which experts say implies it would be preferable to target them in bombing raids or see them detained abroad.<br /><br />The programme’s aim was to try and identity radicalised individuals and reinstall in them democratic and humanitarian values.<br /><br />But the senators who wrote the report, Esther Benbassa, of the left-wing Ecology party, and Catherine Troendlé, from the centre-right Republicans, concluded that de-radicalisation is in fact impossible.<br /><br /><b>“We just have to admit that the most violent and dangerous people will not be [deradicalised],” Ms Troendlé said.</b><br /><br />Ms Benbassa added: <b>“Deradicalisation does not exist. They thought they could take someone and wash their brains. In fact, brainwashing doesn’t really work and it’s a dangerous myth. It’s understandable that the government wanted to reassure society after the terror attacks. But it started with a false premise.”</b><br /><br />He accused the government of displaying “a good deal of amateurism, with people making it up as they went along. They really panicked.”<br /><br />But he added: “I think any government would have done the same in that situation.”<br /><br />Ms Troendié said the efforts were more about “reassuring the population” than anything else.<br /><br />The senators offered little by way of suggestions for how to proceed bar “case by case” help, “work on reinsertion” into the community and “developing prevention”.<br /><br />“This requires a whole network of social workers, educators, community police officers, imams and business leaders,” said Ms Troendié. “There will be no miracle.”<br /><br />http://pamelageller.com/2017/02/deradicalization-total-fiasco.html/<br /><br /><br /><b>Quirk, you're persuasive when you want to be....I think it's up to you and people like you, maybe even including Ash, though he's a known lame brain, to get in there and deal with these folks.<br /><br />Send in Ash first to see how he does, and to gather intelligence.</b>Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12190323608253922482017-02-25T07:23:23.507-05:002017-02-25T07:23:23.507-05:00And this -
French attempts to ‘de-radicalise’ hom...And this -<br /><br /><b>French attempts to ‘de-radicalise’ homegrown jihadists pronounced a <i>‘TOTAL FIASCO’</i></b><br />By Pamela Geller - on February 24, 2017<br />GLOBAL JIHAD 2017<br /><br />I have long warned of the foolishness and the fallacies of the ‘deradicalization ‘ programs. Of course it’s a total fiasco. The motive, the ideology, behind their war is never addressed. It is scrubbed, whitewashed from all counter terror programs. How can you purge jihad and sharia from “de-radicalizeation” programs and expect success?<br /><br />The whole premise of “deradicalization” is false. Nowhere do these programs — whether in Saudi Arabia or Europe or the US — actually address the motive behind this war. Islam. Radicalization is a euphemism for devout Muslim.<br /><br />Related: Gitmo prisoner reveals Saudi “deradicalization” centers being used to recruit & train jihadists<br /><br />“Deradicalization” Program Under Review After Graduates Charged with Jihad Terrorism<br /><br />UK Government Agrees Forced ‘De-Radicalisation’ Schools for Returning Jihadis<br /><br />French attempts to ‘de-radicalise’ homegrown jihadists pronounced a ‘total fiasco’<br /><br />By Henry Samuel, Paris, The Independent,23 February 2017:<br /><br />Among the damning revelations in the report were the fact that the only de-radicalisation centre currently up and running, and fully staffed at an annual cost of €2.5 million, is in fact empty. Among the last people it housed – supposedly non-threatening individuals tempted by radical Islam – one turned out to be on a terror watchlist and the other was caught seeking to reach Syria.<br />Twelve other centres slated to be set up have not been opened.<br /><br />The report also found that many local associations supposed to help families deal with radicalised members are incompetent at best and many signed up simply to obtain public funding.<br /><br />One supposedly groundbreaking programme to bring back radicalised inmates to the French Republican fold had to be scrapped after a prisoner duped the authorities into believing that he had reformed before seeking to murder guards.<br /><br />Slamming the efforts to date, Philippe Bas, a centre-Right Republicans senator, said: <b>“It’s a total fiasco. Everything requires a total rethink. Everything must be started from scratch.”</b><br /><br />Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-6211196267526116002017-02-25T07:13:39.545-05:002017-02-25T07:13:39.545-05:00The MRM’s declaration is a two page document creat...The MRM’s declaration is a two page document created at their first meeting, posted on the door of a nearby mosque (and quickly removed), and available on the websites of various Muslim “reform” organizations. As I noted in my first article about the MRM, this declaration is “a document that rejected Muhammad’s Islam in favor of Western, Judeo-Christian values,” and in terms of Islamic doctrine, it is rife with blasphemy.<br /><br />Jasser also admitted that after a year of the MRM’s existence,<br /><br />we are disappointed in the relative silence from most Muslim leaders…<br /><br />Jasser blamed a lack of money for the poor support from the Muslim community:<br /><br />I can guess why we had shortcomings in outreach. If we had more funding, we could study this more scientifically…No one knows truly how that majority of Muslims feels about Islamist ideologies. National security is in desperate need of helping us study that. …We have not been able to effectively reach out to the majority of Muslims because of resources and the absence of effective platforms.<br /><br />So for the sake of “national security,” the MRM needs to study the attitudes of Muslims in order to find out why the MRM has been generally rejected by those Muslims. And in order for the MRM to complete this study, they need money. The money has to, by default, come from non-Muslims.<br /><br />But I would like to save the MRM time and non-Muslims money. Instead of a new study on why the MRM has virtually no Muslim support, I will provide the answer: in terms of Islamic doctrine, the MRM declaration is blasphemous, and the MRM should not be surprised that over 99% of the larger Muslim community does not want to join in with that blasphemy.<br /><br />It is only attention from the non-Muslim world that will enable the Muslim Reform Movement to remain on life-support, visible but irrelevant.<br /><br />Dr. Stephen M. Kirby is the author of four books about Islam. His latest book is Islam’s Militant Prophet: Muhammad and Forced Conversions to Islam.<br /><br />https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/muslim-reform-group-reached-out-to-3000-us-mosques-got-only-40-responses<br /><br /><b>What the hell is going on, Quirk ?<br /><br />It's almost as if the Religion of Peace is rejecting Peace.<br /><br />How can this be ??<br /><br />Please explain, Quirk.</b>Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-56904412779870102472017-02-25T07:12:58.837-05:002017-02-25T07:12:58.837-05:00MORE explanation needed and REQUESTED from Quirk -...<i>MORE explanation needed and REQUESTED from Quirk -</i><br /><br /><b>Muslim Reform Group Reached Out to 3,000 US Mosques, Got Only 40 Responses</b><br /><br />FEBRUARY 24, 2017 3:16 PM BY STEPHEN M. KIRBY <br /><br /><br /><br />In December 2015, a small group of Muslims met in Washington, DC to discuss the reform of Islam. With media fanfare, they named themselves the Muslim Reform Movement (MRM), issued a Declaration for Muslim Reform, and became the new face of “Muslim reformers.”<br /><br />There was just one fundamental problem: the MRM never had support from the larger Muslim community.<br /><br />Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, one of the MRM founders, admitted this on January 30, 2017, when he was interviewed in an article in The Federalist about the MRM’s recent one year anniversary: A Muslim Reformer Speaks Out About His Battle Against Islamism And PC. Jasser was asked about how many mosques the MRM had initially approached for support in 2015 and the nature of the responses from those mosques. Jasser’s answer was eye-opening:<br /><br />We spent significant resources on this outreach over a period of ten months. We reached out through snail mail, e-mail, and telephone to over 3,000 mosques and over 500 known public American Muslims. We received only 40-plus rather dismissive responses from our outreach, and sadly less than ten of them were positive. In fact, one mosque in South Carolina left us a vicious voice mail threatening our staff if we contacted them again.<br /><br />So the MRM made over 3,500 contacts within the Muslim community, but received only a little over 40 responses, of which less than ten were positive. So to work with these numbers, let’s say the MRM made 3,500 contacts and received nine positive responses. That means that only .0026 (a touch over one-quarter of one percent) of the Muslim organizations and Muslim individuals the MRM contacted responded in a positive manner. And the MRM had even received a “vicious voicemail” from a mosque as a result of these initial contacts.<br /><br />The irrelevance of the MRM was further revealed when Jasser was asked about the MRM’s accomplishments during the first year of its existence. Jasser stated:<br /><br /><i>Our greatest accomplishment to date is our declaration.</i><br /><br />Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-5008918685310603552017-02-25T07:02:14.061-05:002017-02-25T07:02:14.061-05:00Heh
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/02/m...Heh<br /><br />http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/02/mob_brawl_breaks_out_at_australian_mosque_video.html<br /><br />A danger to themselves, and others, and each other....for 1400 years.<br /><br />Does Allah take sides in these disputes ?<br /><br />The Greek gods used to take sides....sometimes they'd even switch sides....just for the malicious fun of it....<br /><br />:O)Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-72431790462873232272017-02-25T06:51:19.324-05:002017-02-25T06:51:19.324-05:00Quirk will need to explain this all to us -
Febru...Quirk will need to explain this all to us -<br /><br />February 25, 2017<br /><b>Mob brawl breaks out at Australian mosque (video)</b><br />By Thomas Lifson<br /><br />The Religion of Peace strikes again, as mob violence breaks out between two factions at a mosque in the Melbourne, Australia suburb of Preston. The great Andrew Bolt of the Herald-Sun reports:<br /><br />Islam means peace. Islam means peace. Islam means ...<br /><br /><br />well, also this:<br /><br />DRAMATIC footage has emerged of a fight outside a Preston mosque.<br /><br />The Sunday Herald Sun understands the dispute was sparked over the banning of Sheik Abdou Eid.<br /><br />The footage showed a large crowd of men pushing and shoving outside the mosque on Friday.<br /><br />Sheik Eid has stood down from his role but did not return the Sunday Herald Sun’s calls.<br /><br />Here is the video:<br /><br />VIDEO OF BRAWL<br /><br />So far as I can tell, both sides are shouting “Allahu Akhbar!” Ordnarily this is translated as “God is great!” -- but people who know Arabic tell me that the actual meaning is “Allah is supreme!” i.e., better than the gods of other religions.<br /><br />Bolt explains the dispute:<br /><br />Vicious infighting threatens to tear apart the congregation of one of Melbourne's largest mosques, amid claims that millions of dollars of donations have disappeared and accusations that a sheikh had behaved inappropriately with women.<br /><br />The conflict came to a head last week when Sheikh Mohamad Abou Eid – who had been banned from Preston Mosque – told hundreds of worshippers on the street outside that he feared management of the mosque had misappropriated donations, and fees paid for burial and school services.<br /><br />The Islamic Society of Victoria, which manages the mosque, reported allegations of inappropriate behaviour by the sheikh to the Board of Imams.<br /><br />He was suspended, and, despite later being told the claims could not be proven, resigned from his position on Friday...<br /><br />On Friday, the sheikh had been escorted into the mosque – despite being banned – by worshippers, who remain angry at his treatment.<br /><br />Unlike the Bible, the Koran does not teach believers to turn the other cheek. In fact, throat slitting is explicitly endorsed as a means of dealing with religious opponents.<br /><br />008.012 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”<br /><br />Hat tip: John McMahon<br /><br />Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-90984319370166374942017-02-25T05:08:32.861-05:002017-02-25T05:08:32.861-05:00Cute video!Cute video!Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-64642001068670135882017-02-25T00:22:19.430-05:002017-02-25T00:22:19.430-05:00Done with mocking Q tonight.
Cheers Q !
Put up s...Done with mocking Q tonight.<br /><br />Cheers Q !<br /><br />Put up some more music !!Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-23835779626237299292017-02-25T00:18:52.420-05:002017-02-25T00:18:52.420-05:00And here I was told and temporarily almost thought...And here I was told and temporarily almost thought it was some kind of fancy <i>Troika</i>.<br /><br />Now we hear tell of a President Bannon.<br /><br />Yup, the rum is flowing, the music playing....Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-13586672824600581982017-02-25T00:14:13.650-05:002017-02-25T00:14:13.650-05:00.
Or in court.
..<br /><br /><br />Or in court.<br /><br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-59883246924717637762017-02-25T00:14:09.853-05:002017-02-25T00:14:09.853-05:00They should be Knighted.
They won the West.They should be Knighted.<br /><br />They won the West.Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-35050349992725766002017-02-25T00:12:42.355-05:002017-02-25T00:12:42.355-05:00.
I usually consider that a success. You never k....<br /><br />I usually consider that a success. You never know when you are going to run into someone from the past.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-22747446928250311452017-02-25T00:12:39.248-05:002017-02-25T00:12:39.248-05:00Yup, that nails it.
Friday night Daiquiri Night a...Yup, that nails it.<br /><br />Friday night Daiquiri Night at the Quirk Place.<br /><br />The music always come on....<br /><br />Gotta love it !Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-17393179171955479682017-02-25T00:10:46.536-05:002017-02-25T00:10:46.536-05:00.
Nonsense, I think of them fondly as benighted c....<br /><br />Nonsense, I think of them fondly as benighted children.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-222423307337937912017-02-25T00:08:49.656-05:002017-02-25T00:08:49.656-05:00.
It would be nice, Deuce, although I'm proba....<br /><br />It would be nice, Deuce, although I'm probably a bit less optimistic than you.<br /><br />Besides, the real question is, what does President Bannon think about it?<br /><br />:o)<br /><br />.<br /><br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-4724643278651937062017-02-25T00:07:57.681-05:002017-02-25T00:07:57.681-05:00
**actually means**
I think Trump just wants som...<br /><br />**actually means**<br /><br />I think Trump just wants someone that knows something about how to win a battle next to him, verbal niceties be damned.Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-76653106863794261692017-02-25T00:05:45.681-05:002017-02-25T00:05:45.681-05:00.
Le Pen blasts EU, NATO, praises Trump
You Got....<br /><br /><i><b>Le Pen</b> blasts EU, NATO, <b>praises Trump</b></i><br /><br /><br /><a href="https://www.bing.com/search?q=youtube+shania+twain+dance+with+the+one+that+brought+you&FORM=EDGNNC" rel="nofollow">You Gotta Dance With the One That Brought You</a><br /><br />.<br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-23620539764463961432017-02-25T00:04:30.108-05:002017-02-25T00:04:30.108-05:00McMaster is wrong about that.
What does he think
...McMaster is wrong about that.<br /><br />What does he think<br /><br /><i><b>STRIKE TERROR INTO THEIR HEARTS</b></i><br /><br />actually mean then ?<br /><br />Telling ghost stories around the campfire ?Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-41014485448355879732017-02-25T00:03:44.650-05:002017-02-25T00:03:44.650-05:00Maybe, just maybe, Trump meant it when he said he ...Maybe, just maybe, Trump meant it when he said he wanted different points of view from his advisors.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.com