tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post621961476169821085..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Non- Veteran RightsDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-47044987507368901342007-10-09T00:45:00.000-04:002007-10-09T00:45:00.000-04:00Aurora, Stars, Meteor<A HREF="http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html" REL="nofollow">Aurora, Stars, Meteor</A>Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-78535467036933447322007-10-08T23:56:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:56:00.000-04:00#1: Everyone is willing to fight and die for the U...<I>#1: Everyone is willing to fight and die for the United States. Not everyone is willing to fight and die for the Sunnis, Shi'ites, or South Vietnamese.</I><BR/><BR/>When the President's son and down, all serve in the military with the common folk, idiotic statements like the one above, will be seen for what they are -- idiotic statements.<BR/><BR/><I>#2: All new citizens swear they will accept military service if asked, or serve in a civilian capacity as determined by law.</I><BR/><BR/>People swear to all kind of things. And all too often we find that those pledges are worthless.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-82491357212727072532007-10-08T23:32:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:32:00.000-04:00"And I would question the patriotism of those who ..."<I>And I would question the patriotism of those who denigrate the military, or demean military service.</I>"<BR/>---<BR/>JFK2 and Murtha filled that bill.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-35740488771711096582007-10-08T23:29:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:29:00.000-04:00Luckily, we don't have to worry about the longest ...Luckily, we don't have to worry about the longest serving National Gaurd guys, since they served 1 day less than 18 months in Iraq.<BR/>Class act writing that one.<BR/>Fiscally Responsible Orders, indeed.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-53878749487073228902007-10-08T23:26:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:26:00.000-04:00stepped-up enforcement that has reduced the number...stepped-up enforcement that has reduced the number of illegal planters, pickers and ***middle managers*** crossing the border.<BR/>!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-87566310149915862272007-10-08T23:25:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:25:00.000-04:00BOB W: And I would question the patriotism of thos...BOB W: <I>And I would question the patriotism of those who denigrate the military, or demean military service.</I><BR/><BR/>Agreed. And speaking of denigrating and demeaning the military, now the GAO reports there has been little progress in rectifying staffing shortfalls at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Processing disability payments still takes an average of 177 days. Only 6 of the Army's 32 Warrior Transition Units have completed training for all staff.Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-46397708845891096152007-10-08T23:24:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:24:00.000-04:00US Farmers farming in Mexico.Viva Reverse Reconqui...US Farmers farming in Mexico.<BR/>Viva Reverse Reconquista! 'Rat:<BR/>You should move up that scheduled move!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-4682564272235826672007-10-08T23:23:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:23:00.000-04:00Unbelievable:The one and only industry where Mexic...Unbelievable:<BR/>The one and only industry where Mexican workers are a NECESSITY, and we crack down on farmers, not crack runners!<BR/>...why not a temporary temporary farm worker program?<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/breaking-point-in-immigration-debate/index.html?hp" REL="nofollow"><STRONG>Breaking Point in Immigration Debate</STRONG> </A>Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-45131263791883021042007-10-08T23:14:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:14:00.000-04:00Problem is, with dual citizenship, all a La Raza t...Problem is, with dual citizenship, all a La Raza type new citizen has to do to stay honest is join the Mexican Army!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-64296484986982197952007-10-08T23:12:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:12:00.000-04:00Your wife will love that one, AlBobAl!...but you l...Your wife will love that one, AlBobAl!<BR/>...but you like camping out in the barn anyhows.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-338669625604492762007-10-08T23:10:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:10:00.000-04:00metuselah: If a person is not willing to fight and...metuselah: <I>If a person is not willing to fight and die for his country, s/he should not be allowed citizenship.</I><BR/><BR/>#1: Everyone is willing to fight and die for the United States. Not everyone is willing to fight and die for the Sunnis, Shi'ites, or South Vietnamese.<BR/><BR/>#2: All new citizens swear they will accept military service if asked, or serve in a civilian capacity as determined by law.Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-45325609908384992202007-10-08T23:02:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:02:00.000-04:00Chowing down some fried-chicken tenders at Skip's ...<I>Chowing down some fried-chicken tenders at Skip's Restaurant on Chelmsford Street, Republican congressional candidate Jim Ogonowski explains why his party lost control of Congress in 2006. "We just had more bums," he says in his Boston accent, speaking almost as quickly as he does bluntly.<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>Most commentators now see the close 2005 special election in a heavily Republican Ohio congressional district--in which Iraq war veteran Paul Hackett, the Democrat, lost to Republican Jean Schmidt by 3,000 votes--as a harbinger of the 2006 Republican defeat. But perhaps the right conclusion to be drawn from Hackett's close loss is that voters were not simply fed up with Bush and the Republican party, but with Washington and politicians in general.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps swing voters wanted to send a hometown boy to Congress, someone who served in the military, someone who shoots straight even if he's shooting from the hip.<BR/><BR/>Someone just like Jim Ogonowski.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/201nzvnc.asp" REL="nofollow">Hint of Red</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08208259520563205356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-75406346430900448712007-10-08T22:46:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:46:00.000-04:00If a person is not willing to fight and die for hi...If a person is not willing to fight and die for his country, s/he should not be allowed citizenship. This is THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL criterion for citizenship, in my view. Military service should be mandatory for everybody everywhere.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-8101276836301785242007-10-08T22:44:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:44:00.000-04:00Doug, the answer to your question might be hire th...Doug, the answer to your question might be hire the criminal you know and trust rather than one of unknown quality. Which shows good judgement!Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-27523145998253253992007-10-08T22:41:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:41:00.000-04:00but not necessarily the county commissioners...but not necessarily the county commissioners...Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-27604940615711930832007-10-08T22:40:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:40:00.000-04:00country, but you should support your county too......country, but you should support your county too...Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-39555464556838168242007-10-08T22:39:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:39:00.000-04:00I've always liked Mark Twain's "Patriotism is supp...I've always liked Mark Twain's "Patriotism is supporting your county all the time, and the government when it deserves it."<BR/><BR/>Therefore, since people disagree about whether the government deserves support or not, we should give the other guy the benefit of the doubt, and not disparage the other person's patriotism.<BR/><BR/>Up to a point, of course :)Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-50438190385406280812007-10-08T22:30:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:30:00.000-04:00Good points, all around.I emphatically agree with ...Good points, all around.<BR/><BR/>I emphatically agree with the notion that Patriotism, however one decides to define it, is neither guaranteed by nor proven by one's service in umiform. There are, as Belmont commenter Kevin said, people in the Uniform just marking time and drawing a paycheck. The same can be said for all professions, I would wager.<BR/><BR/>How should a patriot, one who believes in the goodness and the potential of this country, approach the military? Another good question<BR/><BR/>I would argue that a patriot should value the service of another individual to his or her country. And I would question the patriotism of those who denigrate the military, or demean military service. <BR/><BR/>One should never be afraid to cast a critical eye at all things in an open society, but my own critical eye takes with a grain of salt those who would cast aspersions at uniformed service from one corner of their mouth, while speaking of their patriotism from another.<BR/><BR/>Heroes rocked tonight, by the way; Sylar is still alive!!!Bob W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00529680016749296360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-83927584351866560712007-10-08T22:19:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:19:00.000-04:00Jose Miguel Insulza, secretary general of the Orga...<I>Jose Miguel Insulza, secretary general of the Organization of American States (OAS), praised Costa Ricans on Monday for their civic spirit demonstrated in their calm and mass participation in Sunday's referendum on a free trade agreement.<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>The statement also called on all Costa Ricans to respect the result.<BR/><BR/>The Costa Rican government signed the treaty in 2004, but the nation's legislature voted for a referendum because of political controversy over the issue.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/6279247.html" REL="nofollow">Referendum on FTA</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08208259520563205356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-82050310916954347672007-10-08T22:12:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:12:00.000-04:00Trade Victory Against All OddsTrade: In Sunday's h...<STRONG>Trade Victory Against All Odds</STRONG><BR/><BR/>Trade: In Sunday's happiest event, Costa Rica's voters gave a big yes for free trade in a cliffhanger referendum. It was a remarkable victory, given the odds against it. Democracy does that.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=276735621376395" REL="nofollow">Read Full Article</A>Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-13274091414602260242007-10-08T22:10:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:10:00.000-04:00Targeting Che The big box retailer has jumped onto...<A HREF="http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=250906458533409" REL="nofollow"><STRONG>Targeting Che</STRONG> </A><BR/>The big box retailer has jumped onto the Guevara bandwagon, selling the murderous revolutionary's image as if it had just turned its stores into Marxist rally stalls.<BR/><BR/>What next? Hitler backpacks? Pol Pot cookware? Pinochet pantyhose? Target gives this monster a pass, while using common sense on almost everything else it sells.<BR/><BR/>The firm is not immune to trendy leftism. In its Community Giving program, it has given cash to artist Rupert Garcia, whose claim to fame is glorifying Guevara, something noted on Target's Web site.<BR/><BR/>All this reflects an indifference to history. For some real market research, Target ought to go to Miami, a shopper haven that is a place of exile for the 20% of Cubans who fled for their lives from Guevara's communist Cuba.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-9016138251235374712007-10-08T22:08:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:08:00.000-04:00Anything To WinElection '08: What does the Clinton...<STRONG>Anything To Win</STRONG><BR/><BR/>Election '08: What does the Clinton campaign's use of convicted and disgraced Sandy Berger as an adviser say about the judgment of someone who wants to be president of the United States?<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=276735272021403" REL="nofollow">Read Full Article</A>Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-78419809253722249722007-10-08T21:45:00.000-04:002007-10-08T21:45:00.000-04:00Che:“a flower that was plucked from his stem prema...Che:<BR/>“a flower that was plucked from his stem prematurely.”<BR/>- Raúl CastroDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-5257579612113946762007-10-08T21:43:00.000-04:002007-10-08T21:43:00.000-04:00A Revolutionary Icon, and Now, a Bikini Forty year...<A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/09/world/americas/09che.html?hp" REL="nofollow"><STRONG>A Revolutionary Icon, and Now, a Bikini</STRONG> </A><BR/><BR/>Forty years after his death, Che Guevara is as much a marketing tool as he is an icon of socialist revolution.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-7305333375941443482007-10-08T21:42:00.000-04:002007-10-08T21:42:00.000-04:00Stallone came back from Burma just before the S......Stallone came back from Burma just before the S... really hit the fan.<BR/>Claims it's pretty bad, piles of bodies w/o limbs and the like.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.com