tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post6090212345608216581..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Obama's Press ConferenceDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger81125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-33041467651724317702010-05-28T06:44:34.300-04:002010-05-28T06:44:34.300-04:00"Been to church, bob.
Not going back.
Those ...<i>"Been to church, bob.<br /><br />Not going back.<br />Those Christians, they blamed the Jews, for killing Christ.<br /><br />It sickened me.<br /><br />Had to leave that BS, behind."</i><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />:)<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-11979915783417096402010-05-28T06:30:08.643-04:002010-05-28T06:30:08.643-04:00The hypocrisy of the Christians, to much for me, b...The hypocrisy of the Christians, to much for me, boobie.<br /><br />Could see how it'd fit you, though.<br />Hypocrisy is YOUR game.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-40670798641833829552010-05-28T06:28:36.430-04:002010-05-28T06:28:36.430-04:00Been to church, bob.
Not going back.
Those Christ...Been to church, bob.<br /><br />Not going back.<br />Those Christians, they blamed the Jews, for killing Christ.<br /><br />It sickened me.<br /><br />Had to leave that BS, behind.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-33492739098876913542010-05-28T01:42:37.035-04:002010-05-28T01:42:37.035-04:00Besides, I didn't shoot at women and children,...Besides, I didn't shoot at women and children, I'm no Israeli.---rat, you are so fucked up, it's beyond belief. Go to church.bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-14651581349095730822010-05-28T00:48:36.608-04:002010-05-28T00:48:36.608-04:00Meals on Wheels, rat, Meals on Wheels---something!...Meals on Wheels, rat, Meals on Wheels---something!bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1370474190706142012010-05-28T00:46:05.828-04:002010-05-28T00:46:05.828-04:00A self confessed criminal, a FELON, preaching, it ...A self confessed criminal, a FELON, preaching, it would be laughable, if it weren't so damn sad. rat, get a JOB! Do something!bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-5125338171164808822010-05-28T00:40:56.573-04:002010-05-28T00:40:56.573-04:00No one that truly respected women would allow such...No one that truly respected women would allow such activities to go unreported to law enforcement.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-10961262383752483322010-05-28T00:39:31.422-04:002010-05-28T00:39:31.422-04:00Only a damned fool let's a recidivist rapist s...Only a damned fool let's a recidivist rapist stalk the women of his community, without informing law enforcement of the presence of the rapist.<br /><br />A damned fool of no consequence.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-45588695789584185632010-05-28T00:35:11.720-04:002010-05-28T00:35:11.720-04:00Murder?
Is killing folk always murder?
Is that wh...Murder?<br /><br />Is killing folk always murder?<br />Is that what the Israeli did in Gaza? <br />They murdered 800 innocent folk, women and children.<br /><br />You do admit to that, now, 'misdirection'.<br />You admit to the legal and moral equivalency?<br /><br />As I have been saying, the Israeli are not morally superior, just a bunch of murders, as 'misdirection' says, just like US, just like the Arabs.<br /><br />Besides, I didn't shoot at women and children, I'm no Israeli.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-54757767193339768432010-05-28T00:33:09.284-04:002010-05-28T00:33:09.284-04:00Oil Solution<a href="http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil/" rel="nofollow">Oil Solution</a>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-21739715798774039052010-05-27T23:26:10.701-04:002010-05-27T23:26:10.701-04:00And more importantly, if you get right down to it,...And more importantly, if you get right down to it, our women as well.---Meaning, a woman is an independent free human spirit, which we would be damned fools to lose.bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-11921183913058579022010-05-27T23:20:44.578-04:002010-05-27T23:20:44.578-04:00Interesting point about the gaza war and israel
a...Interesting point about the gaza war and israel<br /><br />as for targetting civilians in gaza, how are your math skills?<br />according to wikipedia, israel launched 2360 air strikes during operation "cast lead", now the gaza strip is home to 1,5 mil people with a density of over 4,000 people per square kilometer, making it the 6th crowded place on earth. an f16 can carry more than 3 tons of bombs and an f15 even more but i'll go easy on you and make it 2 tons which means the entire payload dropped on gaza was about 4500 tons of different bombs and explosive, if indeed innocent 400 civilians were killed it means that on average it took over 11 tons of explosives to kill one innocent civilian in gaza, even wile e coyote would have more success than that :-)<br /><br />if the IDF had used a roulette or a random location generator to determine where to drop the bombs there would have been at least ten times the amount of people killed so how can anyone claim that israel targeted civilians? are the pilots blind? are the bombs duds? are arabs protected by magic force fields? <br /><br />If you know anything about modern weapons, you would know that if just one plane had targeted a heavy populated civilian are there would have been more than 1400 dead.<br /><br />The funny thing is this was just the air force i was using in the example , there were also thousands of infantry and hundreds of tanks and gunships involved which i guess share the pilots' lack of accuracy, either that or they simply were doing their best not to target civilians while fighting an enemy which operates solely from within civilian populations, but that would go against your strong beliefs wouldn't it?What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-51923501963384031952010-05-27T23:19:01.710-04:002010-05-27T23:19:01.710-04:00"There is going to be a war. No middle ground..."There is going to be a war. No middle ground is possible."---Unfortunately, I think that is true. I wish it weren't.----"If someone slaps me in the face, my code tells me to knock them out."----My attitude exactly, and is why we should have bombed Iran a long time ago.----I think we are in a very serious cultural war with the muzzies, and we better damn well wake up soon, or we might lose our very America. And more importantly, if you get right down to it, our women as well. This from Joseph Campbell, now deceased. Who always took the long view, and could get to the heart of human culture, such as it is. If we don't wake up, one of these days the women will be sitting in the back of some damned mosque or other. It is serious stuff, make no doubt.bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-81885790499961248362010-05-27T23:02:36.231-04:002010-05-27T23:02:36.231-04:00Rat says: Where as, in the United States, race, cr...Rat says: Where as, in the United States, race, creed and national origin are not important, individual behavior is.<br /><br /><br />And yet Rat admits to murdering people in Central America, how can anyone listen to anything he says?What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-81794037480913283802010-05-27T22:47:28.031-04:002010-05-27T22:47:28.031-04:00Deuce speaks of individuals, "misdirection&qu...Deuce speaks of individuals, "misdirection" speaks of groups.<br /><br />There in lays the difference.<br /><br />Individual vs the "Group", the Europeons love to trash entire groups, religious & ethnic. Often committing genocide, as the do.<br /><br />Where as, in the United States, race, creed and national origin are not important, individual behavior is.<br /><br />"misdirection", he does not even like to use the hyphenated expression, as he drops 'American', when discussin' Miss USA 2010.<br /><br />Following Mr Luntz's advise, Arabs are now demonized, rather than just Palestinians.<br /><br />Learning boys, you're learning.<br /><br />Better thank trish, for your further edification, as concerns advancing your Israeli propaganda.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-16486836587872278402010-05-27T22:30:18.990-04:002010-05-27T22:30:18.990-04:00Ash asks:
WiO in particular regularly argues that...Ash asks:<br /><br />WiO in particular regularly argues that because some muslims do bad stuff therefore whatever jews do is ok because of that bad stuff they did. Is this the foundation upon which rests your moral philosophy?<br /><br />Let see ash...<br /><br />Arabs have tortured, raped, enslaved, murdered my people (the Jews) for 3200 years, the collective people called "the arabs" kicked out the Jews from 649/650th of the middle east and then have proceeded to attempt genocide against the people "israel"<br /><br />Now ash asks if Israel's treatment of Arabs reactionary?<br /><br />yawnWhat is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-78241404079706763902010-05-27T22:23:57.202-04:002010-05-27T22:23:57.202-04:00If someone slaps me in the face, my code tells me ...If someone slaps me in the face, my code tells me to knock them out.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-83691061846072979842010-05-27T22:18:32.544-04:002010-05-27T22:18:32.544-04:00deuce wrote:
"What happened to moral equival...deuce wrote:<br /><br />"What happened to moral equivalence "<br /><br />well, what about moral equivalence? Are you saying that because x broke law y therefore it is ok for you to also break such a law?<br /><br />WiO in particular regularly argues that because some muslims do bad stuff therefore whatever jews do is ok because of that bad stuff they did. Is this the foundation upon which rests your moral philosophy?Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06232405130481114127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42188174802146422010-05-27T22:14:39.322-04:002010-05-27T22:14:39.322-04:00Palestinian Territories OWN
Google Site!!!<a href="http://www.google.ps/" rel="nofollow">Palestinian Territories OWN<br />Google Site!!!</a><br><br /><br><br /><a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rootsclub.ps%2Fservices-ar.php&sl=ar&tl=en" rel="nofollow"></a>What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-71034942741642953482010-05-27T22:09:33.377-04:002010-05-27T22:09:33.377-04:00Deuce said...
How many Churches or Synagogues in M...Deuce said...<br />How many Churches or Synagogues in Mecca? What happened to moral equivalence or do we reduce that to situational equivalence?<br /><br /><br />ZERO, NONE, NADA, ZIP...What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-88588405568404766602010-05-27T22:03:58.988-04:002010-05-27T22:03:58.988-04:00How many Churches or Synagogues in Mecca? What hap...How many Churches or Synagogues in Mecca? What happened to moral equivalence or do we reduce that to situational equivalence?Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-214486793169776232010-05-27T21:56:16.987-04:002010-05-27T21:56:16.987-04:00Go
Here for this lovely courtyard<a href="http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/mideastdispatches/archives/001114.html" rel="nofollow">Go<br />Here for this lovely courtyard</a><br><br /><br><br /><a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rootsclub.ps%2Fservices-ar.php&sl=ar&tl=en" rel="nofollow"></a>What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-27716134934520987872010-05-27T21:49:58.525-04:002010-05-27T21:49:58.525-04:00When the Pro-Palestinians make it to Gaza they sur...When the Pro-Palestinians make it to Gaza they sure will be hungry...<br><br /><br><br />I hope they book a table or two at the follow local restaurant:<br><br /><br><br /><a href="http://www.rootsclub.ps/services-ar.php" rel="nofollow">Fine<br />Dining at Gaza's Root Club, in Arabic, they have their own website of<br />course!</a><br><br /><br><br /><a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rootsclub.ps%2Fservices-ar.php&sl=ar&tl=en" rel="nofollow">An<br />English Version</a><br>What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-49379519438522591482010-05-27T21:43:27.021-04:002010-05-27T21:43:27.021-04:00"Israel reportedly planned recently to bomb o..."Israel reportedly planned recently to bomb one of the arms convoys as it crossed the border into Lebanon, but the operation was called off at the last minute. Western intelligence sources say that the Israelis have yielded — for now — to American diplomatic efforts to persuade Syria to stop the arms transfers."<br /><br />"Arming Hezbollah was banned under the provisions of UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which brought an end to the 2006 war."<br />(Given your scrupulous advocacy of the "Law of Nations", DR, I know you will be all over this. Maybe you can help create a thread)<br /><br /><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7138763.ece" rel="nofollow">Syria accused of arming Hezbollah from secret bases</a><br /><br />There is going to be a war. No middle ground is possible.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12269116850924609852010-05-27T21:31:22.439-04:002010-05-27T21:31:22.439-04:00600 feet...
How about ONE foot per MURDERED VICTI...600 feet...<br /><br />How about ONE foot per MURDERED VICTIM?<br /><br />Feisal Abdul Rauf, a New York imam, expects us to believe that jihad warfare was started by the West and can only be ended by the West. He is therefore either concealing or ignorant of the fact that violent jihad is a developed tradition within Islam and found in core Islamic texts (including but not limited to the Qur'an, as well as Hadith and books of Islamic jurisprudence). In those it has nothing to do with the behavior of infidels. It only has to do with the fact that they are infidels. Take, for example, this quotation from the Muslim prophet Muhammad:<br /><br />When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. . . . If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them. (Sahih Muslim, book 019, Number 4294)<br />That is offensive jihad. It is buttressed by numerous other sayings of the Prophet, by the Qur'an, and by Islamic legal scholars. But Feisal Abdul Rauf puts it all on the West, and gets invited to Australia by Premier Bob Carr.<br /><br />The US and the West must acknowledge the harm they have done to Muslims before terrorism can end, says an Islamic cleric invited to Sydney by Premier Bob Carr.<br />New York-based Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who impressed Mr Carr at an international conference last year, arrives in Sydney today for two weeks of meetings and public talks.<br /><br />Speaking from his New York mosque, Imam Feisal said the West had to understand the terrorists' point of view.<br /><br />In a move likely to cause controversy with church leaders, Imam Feisal said it was Christians who started mass attacks on civilians.<br /><br />"The Islamic method of waging war is not to kill innocent civilians. But it was Christians in World War II who bombed civilians in Dresden and Hiroshima, neither of which were military targets."<br /><br />This is outrageously specious, but it depends on the ignorance of the listeners. The bombings of Dresden and Hiroshima were not justified by the bombers on the basis of Christian theology. The bombings by terrorists -- 9/11, 3/11, etc. -- are justified on the basis of Islamic theology. By claiming that they are equivalent, Abdul Rauf obscures the Islamic roots of modern-day terrorism, thus hindering the prospects for the reform within Islam that is so desperately needed if jihad terrorism is ever going to cease.<br /><br />Imam Feisal said the bombing in Madrid had made his message more urgent. He said there was an endless supply of angry young Muslim rebels prepared to die for their cause and there was no sign of the attacks ending unless there was a fundamental change in the world.<br />Yes indeed. But displaying a lack of the self-critical faculty that he shares with radical Muslims, he makes no mention, at least according to this report, of the Islamic roots of terror, and of the need for Muslims who truly (rather than deceptively) oppose terror to address this problem.<br /><br />Imam Feisal, who argues for a Western style of Islam that promotes democracy and tolerance, said there could be little progress until the US acknowledged backing dictators and the US President gave an "America Culpa" speech to the Muslim world.<br />Of course. The historical depredations of jihad, they were all the fault of the West. The fall of Constantinople? Probably because of Byzantium's support for Israel.What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.com