tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post5820772840055540194..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: What this country needs is a straight talking president capable of unambiguous clear answers to a simple questionDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1982170028555701142015-11-07T09:11:40.608-05:002015-11-07T09:11:40.608-05:00.
...but I'm sure there would be other jobs a....<br /><br /><i>...but I'm sure there would be other jobs at the refinery and post refinery end.</i><br /><br />They might put up more pipes, extend the refinery, add some computers. People? Not so much.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-67824313338905439382015-11-07T09:08:56.879-05:002015-11-07T09:08:56.879-05:00.
Look up the state department report or read the....<br /><br />Look up the state department report or read the Van Jones article I posted.<br /><br />When I was in purchasing, I occasionally visited refineries. There were a lot of pipes and computers but very few people. Besides, in Canada's case the costs, given the current market and trends, would argue against building a new facility. I don't remember all the details but I put up the numbers a few years ago when you brought up this same question.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-61892381847845842122015-11-07T09:02:37.317-05:002015-11-07T09:02:37.317-05:00.
That you would couch this particular issue in t....<br /><br />That you would couch this particular issue in the terms you have once again puts on display the limits of the Idaho education system, that or the inadequacy of its mental health support system.<br /><br />Seek help. Even if you must travel to another state. <br /><br />If you can't riddle this message out please show it to your wife or daughter.<br /><br />[Note to Bob's Wife or Daughter: If by some chance you are reading this post please seek medical (mental) help for your husband/father. Do so immediately. His bizarre thoughts and words as posted on this blog are disturbing. I fear he may eventually hurt himself or someone else. While I am sure this situation is not new to you, I believe it is time to act. <br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Quirk]<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-79395791319543096622015-11-07T06:49:45.280-05:002015-11-07T06:49:45.280-05:00Maybe 35 jobs running the pipeline (though even th...Maybe 35 jobs running the pipeline (though even that sounds low) but I'm sure there would be other jobs at the refinery and post refinery end.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1404696870591844112015-11-07T06:48:10.295-05:002015-11-07T06:48:10.295-05:00The cost equation for the tar sands in general has...The cost equation for the tar sands in general has always been iffy. Ya building refineries is expensive and transporting refined product more costly and dangerous. Canada has a rep for selling it's raw resources as opposed to the value added products made from them. It is big oil driving the game for the most part and I think they want to feed refineries they already own.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-30083516750061249462015-11-07T02:12:28.535-05:002015-11-07T02:12:28.535-05:00In your usual 5,000 words or less, Quirk, do you w...In your usual 5,000 words or less, Quirk, do you want efficiency, or jobs ? Energy, or wood stoves ? Electricity, or candlelight ?Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-38405022409246076582015-11-07T01:46:48.604-05:002015-11-07T01:46:48.604-05:00.
...simply beyond my capacity to understand.
Ye....<br /><br /><i>...simply beyond my capacity to understand.</i><br /><br />Yes, we know spud. Don't think about it. The pain will go away.<br /><br />.<br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-67676099278707762402015-11-07T01:37:22.816-05:002015-11-07T01:37:22.816-05:00Great source Quirk.
But what's this about on...Great source Quirk.<br /><br />But what's this about only 35 jobs ?<br /><br />That sounds like efficiency to me.<br /><br />Truck it all in pickup trucks you could create 350,000 jobs, clog the highways, pollute Mother Earth..<br /><br /><i>Quirkean Environmentalism !</i>Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-6613035266820782672015-11-07T01:31:22.888-05:002015-11-07T01:31:22.888-05:00.
By the by, WiO, there is a second lesson to be ....<br /><br />By the by, WiO, there is a second lesson to be learned from the Van Jones affair above. That lesson is that before before denigrating someone as a source, it is probably smart to double check to make sure that he is actually wrong on the matter in question.<br /><br />From <i>Politifact</i>,<br /><br /><a href="http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/feb/10/van-jones/cnns-van-jones-says-keystone-pipeline-only-creates/" rel="nofollow">CNN's Van Jones says Keystone pipeline only creates 35 permanent jobs</a><br /><br /><i>Punditfact</i> ruling on the claim:<br /><br /><b>Jones’ claim is True.</b><br /><br />It's called 'The Blind Squirrel Rule'.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42990185669878283662015-11-07T00:50:10.491-05:002015-11-07T00:50:10.491-05:00.
Ash, my line above
It's my understanding ....<br /><br />Ash, my line above <br /><br /><i>It's my understanding the cost equation doesn't work for Canada</i>.<br /><br />was in response to your comment...<br /><br /><i>I think they should refine the crap where they dig it up.</i><br /><br />.<br /><br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-24384339663427233612015-11-07T00:44:20.075-05:002015-11-07T00:44:20.075-05:00.
:o)
Calm down, son.
I heard the number in a d....<br /><br />:o)<br /><br />Calm down, son.<br /><br />I heard the number in a discussion of Obama's rejection of the deal today. Can't remember whether it was on FOX, CNN, or CNBC. But it wasn't by Van Jones and the number has been used by a number of people before. As I recall, it came out of the State Department analysis of the deal that was put out last year.<br /><br />Sorry, to ruin your night. You looked like you were having fun but sometimes you need to check more than one google link. Or, maybe you were just looking to vent on Van Jones and needed to get it out. If so, enjoy.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-46932688747676629782015-11-07T00:25:31.806-05:002015-11-07T00:25:31.806-05:00They criticized Jones for his past political activ...They criticized Jones for his past political activities, including his involvement with STORM (Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement) and his support for Mumia Abu-Jamal, a prisoner sentenced to death for murdering a police officer in a highly controversial trial.<br /><br /><br />yep supports a cop murderer...<br /><br />What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-10094234856233031072015-11-07T00:23:57.142-05:002015-11-07T00:23:57.142-05:00.
It's my understanding the cost equation doe....<br /><br />It's my understanding the cost equation doesn't work for Canada.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42523659081256418982015-11-07T00:23:54.981-05:002015-11-07T00:23:54.981-05:00Earlier activism[edit]
In 1992, while still a law ...Earlier activism[edit]<br />In 1992, while still a law student at Yale, Jones participated as a volunteer legal monitor for a protest of the Rodney King verdict in San Francisco. He and many other participants in the protest were arrested. The district attorney later dropped the charges against Jones. The arrested protesters, including Jones, won a small legal settlement. Jones later said that "the incident deepened my disaffection with the system and accelerated my political radicalization."[20] In October 2005 Jones said he was "a rowdy nationalist"[17] before the King verdict was announced, but that by August of that year (1992) he was a communist.[17]What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-53443910565728770252015-11-07T00:21:45.935-05:002015-11-07T00:21:45.935-05:00CNN's Van Jones says Keystone pipeline only cr...CNN's Van Jones says Keystone pipeline only creates 35 permanent jobs<br /><br />By Katie Sanders on Monday, February 10th, 2014 at 4:52 p.m.<br /><br /><br /><br />Van Jones?<br /><br />that is your source?<br /><br />In July 2009 he became embroiled in a controversy[9] over his past political activities, including a public comment disparaging congressional Republicans, his name appearing on a petition for 911Truth.org, and one-time involvement with a socialist collective during the 1990s.[10][11][12][13] For these issues, Van Jones was heavily criticized by conservatives.[14] Jones resigned from the position in early September 2009.[9] "On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me," Jones said in his resignation statement. "They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide."[10]<br /><br /><br />Van Jones? the Commie?<br /><br />He's your source?<br /><br /><br />What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-87435876862118201462015-11-07T00:19:24.299-05:002015-11-07T00:19:24.299-05:00can you say OBAMA?can you say OBAMA?What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-35996679464699588052015-11-07T00:18:52.035-05:002015-11-07T00:18:52.035-05:00Syria?
A shit nation that supported terrorism, st...Syria?<br /><br />A shit nation that supported terrorism, strangled lebanon, murder it's leaders...<br /><br />It's baathist party was akin to the nazi party...<br /><br />Every administration since assad the father took over the county wanted regime change<br /><br />"He participated in the 1963 Syrian coup d'état which brought the Syrian Regional Branch of the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party to power"<br /><br />What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-55183253141743977192015-11-07T00:08:32.123-05:002015-11-07T00:08:32.123-05:00.
35 permanent jobs.
..<br /><br />35 permanent jobs. <br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-24966846260223994032015-11-06T23:30:50.756-05:002015-11-06T23:30:50.756-05:00" For what it is worth, they will not escape ..." For what it is worth, they will not escape the history of it."<br /><br />Wow are you going to line us up and shoot us? Put us on rail card and gas us?<br /><br />What method of punishment will you dole out?What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-69048172979824808752015-11-06T23:24:44.555-05:002015-11-06T23:24:44.555-05:0035 what ?
Here the US had a chance to pipe Canad...35 what ?<br /><br />Here the US had a chance to pipe Canadian bitumen to southern refineries...<br /> ... The US said nope.<br /><br />I think they should refine the crap where they dig it up.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-82319466264930683542015-11-06T22:56:24.819-05:002015-11-06T22:56:24.819-05:00Now that you know how much damage a single fool ca...Now that you know how much damage a single fool can do rake a look at how bad is could get if that fool we're Donald Trump! Nothing is worse than an fool who believes he's brilliant. Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-72120389737251043632015-11-06T22:09:49.584-05:002015-11-06T22:09:49.584-05:00.
Thousands of temporary jobs for what, a year?
....<br /><br />Thousands of temporary jobs for what, a year?<br /><br />After that 35.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-77326078884740355372015-11-06T22:07:48.686-05:002015-11-06T22:07:48.686-05:00.
You voted for it.
Bush was a pig in a poke. T....<br /><br /><i>You voted for it.</i><br /><br />Bush was a pig in a poke. The alternative was Al Gore.<br /><br />Who knew the damage one man could do?<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1666172013599957512015-11-06T21:49:07.618-05:002015-11-06T21:49:07.618-05:00The guys were good, but the people (at that forum...The guys were good, but the people (at that forum) love Hillary.galopn2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10149969176825932175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-58906581385873157772015-11-06T21:35:36.697-05:002015-11-06T21:35:36.697-05:00Obama has said no to the pipeline.
The unions are...Obama has said no to the pipeline.<br /><br />The unions are pissed.Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02337923317977922025noreply@blogger.com