tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post4290079839514254719..comments2024-03-29T06:35:11.321-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Who's the Goat?Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-52506548286725766382008-01-04T10:21:00.000-05:002008-01-04T10:21:00.000-05:00ash said...bobal,Having trouble with, and/or criti...ash said...<BR/>bobal,<BR/><BR/>Having trouble with, and/or criticizing the Israeli position on some issues does not imply a wholesale acceptance of all that is the 'arabic' approach. The Israelis and the Palestinians seem to be caught in a Siamese twin like embrace doing a macabre dance to the death. It would be nice to be able to help them find a way to just get along.<BR/><BR/>Thu Jan 03, 09:07:00 AM EST<BR/><BR/><BR/>ash,<BR/><BR/>again, forget the :palestinian angle...<BR/><BR/>it's the israeli - arab conflict, the palios are pawns<BR/><BR/>they were CREATED to do what could not be done via traditional force.<BR/><BR/>the egyptians and the syrians FAILEd to exterminate the nascent israel, and then failed to exterminate the fledging israel, and they decided to CHANGE tactics...<BR/><BR/>arafat the egyptian was propelled into the leadership via the egyptian secret police as a tool to be a thorn in israel's side...<BR/><BR/>here is a lifted bio of the man:<BR/><BR/>Key Events in Yasir Arafat's Terrorist Career<BR/><BR/>– Aug 4, 1929: Born in Cairo. Arafat, then named Muhammad Abdel Rahman Abdel Rauf al-Qudwa al-Husseini, is fifth child of prosperous merchant, Abdel Raouf al-Qudwa al-Husseini.<BR/><BR/>– 1933: Arafat's mother dies. He and his infant brother are sent to live with uncle in Jerusalem.<BR/><BR/>– Late 1950's: Arafat co-founds Fatah, the “Movement for the National Liberation of Palestine.”<BR/><BR/>– Jan. 1, 1965: Fatah fails in its first attempted attack within Israel — the bombing of the National Water Carrier.<BR/><BR/>– July 5, 1965: A Fatah cell plants explosives at Mitzpe Massua, near Beit Guvrin; and on the railroad tracks to Jerusalem near Kafr Battir.<BR/><BR/>– 1965-1967: Numerous Fatah bomb attacks target Israeli villages, water pipes, railroads. Homes are destroyed and Israelis are killed.<BR/><BR/><BR/>so you see, the use of terror STARTED BEFORE 1967, when gaza and the west bank were firmly in arab control<BR/><BR/>and yet, no call to create a state from 1948 - 1967 in those lands....<BR/><BR/>nope the problem aint "palestine" the problem is the fact that israel is... and sits on .7/650th of the middle east...<BR/><BR/>so it aint "Siamese twins" it's an elephant and an ant...<BR/><BR/>as for the palios? israel COULD destroy them in an instant given the right mega murder..<BR/><BR/>the reason Israel did not INVADE lebanon with 45,000 troops and killed 10's of thousands?<BR/><BR/>hezbollah wasnt GOOD enough even with 4400 rockets to kill more than a typical suicide bombing's aftermath...What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-89568646863456251272008-01-03T09:07:00.000-05:002008-01-03T09:07:00.000-05:00bobal,Having trouble with, and/or criticizing the ...bobal,<BR/><BR/>Having trouble with, and/or criticizing the Israeli position on some issues does not imply a wholesale acceptance of all that is the 'arabic' approach. The Israelis and the Palestinians seem to be caught in a Siamese twin like embrace doing a macabre dance to the death. It would be nice to be able to help them find a way to just get along.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06232405130481114127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-85038400730643357872008-01-03T03:26:00.000-05:002008-01-03T03:26:00.000-05:00Most Israeli Arabs Prefer To Stay In Jewish State,...<A HREF="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59497" REL="nofollow">Most Israeli Arabs Prefer To Stay In Jewish State, Polls Show</A><BR/><BR/>Ash! Explain, please!!Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-32559297371277542852008-01-03T01:52:00.000-05:002008-01-03T01:52:00.000-05:00I just heard a man on the radio saying the Congres...I just heard a man on the radio saying the Congressional Black Caucus supports amnesty for illegal aliens. If that is true, why?Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-16148036964655582022008-01-03T01:42:00.000-05:002008-01-03T01:42:00.000-05:00Man Murders His Own Daughters in Dallas<A HREF="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019415.php#comments" REL="nofollow">Man Murders His Own Daughters in Dallas</A>Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-70824277085127589712008-01-03T01:32:00.000-05:002008-01-03T01:32:00.000-05:00Not to worry folks, those special forces teams are...Not to worry folks, those special forces teams are set to <A HREF="http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/foreign/display.var.1933388.0.Special_forces_on_standby_over_nuclear_threat.php" REL="nofollow">Grab The Paki Nukes</A> when the need arises.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-21604921587773400432008-01-03T01:18:00.000-05:002008-01-03T01:18:00.000-05:00The Scapegoat<A HREF="http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/online/pre-Raphaelites/scapegoat.asp" REL="nofollow">The Scapegoat</A>Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-51243258443198259232008-01-03T00:16:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:16:00.000-05:00Earlier Wednesday, Pakistan President Pervez Musha...<I>Earlier Wednesday, Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf and British Foreign Secretary David Miliband both announced Britain's agreeing to the Pakistani request.<BR/><BR/>Miliband said British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, at the request of Musharraf, "has agreed to send a UK Police team of technical experts to assist the government of Pakistan in the investigation of the death of Benazir Bhutto. The team is due to leave the UK by the end of the week.<BR/><BR/>"As the terrible events of last week show only too clearly, Pakistan faces a very serious threat from extremism. The UK is already closely engaged with the Government of Pakistan on counter-terrorism cooperation.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.khabrein.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10588&Itemid=88" REL="nofollow">Too Late?</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42415813779527876342008-01-03T00:13:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:13:00.000-05:0012:01 should read slick hair, not air, I get shake...12:01 should read slick hair, not air, I get shakey thinking about the man.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-51664036023986414062008-01-03T00:11:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:11:00.000-05:00Interview jihadis in War - i - stan.Interview jihadis in War - i - stan.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-68501548142092483262008-01-03T00:10:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:10:00.000-05:00Fred Video<A HREF="http://fredfile.fred08.com/blog/2007/video-freds-message-to-iowa-voters/" REL="nofollow">Fred Video</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-7495063925566438532008-01-03T00:09:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:09:00.000-05:00Do archeological work in Yemen.Do archeological work in Yemen.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-11361039379880069362008-01-03T00:08:00.001-05:002008-01-03T00:08:00.001-05:00Hire a hooker in Tehran.Hire a hooker in Tehran.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-40724893835311126982008-01-03T00:08:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:08:00.000-05:00Celebrate Hanukka(sp?) in Gaza.Celebrate Hanukka(sp?) in Gaza.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-6027684372258888492008-01-03T00:07:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:07:00.000-05:00He can walk in to a saudi real estate office and m...He can walk in to a saudi real estate office and make an offer.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-3833025611569924092008-01-03T00:05:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:05:00.000-05:00I know, WiO, let's pay Ash to walk around the arab...I know, WiO, let's pay Ash to walk around the arab countries with a skull cap on his head for a summer. If he came back, it'd be with a different opinion.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-80633872678152621992008-01-03T00:01:00.000-05:002008-01-03T00:01:00.000-05:00RomneyHuck ThompsonObamaHellaryslick airRomney<BR/>Huck <BR/>Thompson<BR/><BR/><BR/>Obama<BR/>Hellary<BR/>slick airBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-40805421407313456662008-01-02T23:45:00.000-05:002008-01-02T23:45:00.000-05:00"[Olmert's punishment], and the punishment of [Vic...<I>"[Olmert's punishment], and the punishment of [Vice Premier] Haim Ramon, and the punishment of [Foreign Minister] Tzipi Livni, and all these people, like [Defense Minister] Ehud Barak, should be to hang from the gallows," Wolpe said to the cheering crowd.<BR/><BR/>The comment came after news circulated during the conference that one of the terrorists who killed two Israelis in the South Hebron Hills last Friday was a PA security officer.<BR/><BR/>Among those attending the conference were MK Arye Eldad (National Union/National Religious Party), MK Meir Porush (United Torah Judaism), Kiryat Arba-Hebron Chief Rabbi Dov Lior, Kise Rahamin Yeshiva head Rabbi Meir Mazuz, and former MK Elyakim Haeztni, who joined in the accusations that Olmert was responsible the deaths of the two Israelis last Friday.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1198517277879&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" REL="nofollow">Calls for PM's Death</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-81394664021678156882008-01-02T23:31:00.000-05:002008-01-02T23:31:00.000-05:00There seems to be a general agreement as to what a...There seems to be a general agreement as to what a solution would look like (Two States based on the '67 borders with trades made for settled lands, compensation for denial of right of return, and shared admin/international city for Jerusalem) but the Palis and Israelis don't seem too keen on signing on...most others seem able to live with it.<BR/><BR/><BR/>the palios/arabs have refused to sign on to any real peace, the problem? the arabs wish to keep it legal to hunt and kill jews...<BR/><BR/>ya see, it is really simple, it aint the land, it is israel being<BR/><BR/>it is also "how dare the fucking jews think they are our equal" syndrome, the christian world finally shook that concept and the islamic world hasnt even begun to think that<BR/><BR/>the islamic world doesnt see it to be a crime to ethnically cleanse jews from 649/650th of the middle east, they do not see it as crime to kill people that sell land to a jew, they do not see it to be a crime to kill an apostate....<BR/><BR/>the peace treaty aint about land, it's about the arabs finally realizing that jews have as much right to land in the middle east as they do (let alone actually even more rights to a tiny sliver)<BR/><BR/>no, peace cannot come as long as genocide is the islamic goal...<BR/><BR/>as for those who think i am in denial? I am not, i just see if the violence of islam is not stopped, and stopped soon, you will have a nuke exchange.<BR/><BR/>in the end, i HIDE in Ohio, knowing all to well that the black rockers from iran, hezbollah, hamas & arabia among many more, are seeking the complete murder of every jew.<BR/><BR/>but we will not go quietly into the night, there will be a price to pay if these retards again try for genocide....What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-13675948109411706552008-01-02T23:29:00.000-05:002008-01-02T23:29:00.000-05:00“We talked this morning about getting two deputies...<I>“We talked this morning about getting two deputies off calls and do nothing but speed control,” White County Sheriff Ricky Shourd said.<BR/><BR/>Four new Arkansas Highway Police officers will be assigned to the county, Shourd said, and he has requested more troopers be assigned to White County by the Arkansas State Police (ASP). The ASP will begin saturation patrols after the first of the year, Shourd said.<BR/><BR/>Saturation patrols are intense efforts in which a proportionately larger number of troopers are active in a given area during a certain time period in order to catch lawbreakers.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.thedailycitizen.com/articles/2007/12/21/news/local_news/news01.txt" REL="nofollow">Don't Speed in Arkansas</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-69063076817164545882008-01-02T23:25:00.000-05:002008-01-02T23:25:00.000-05:00Neither intentionally nor otherwise.Neither intentionally nor otherwise.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-3859569084817146352008-01-02T23:19:00.000-05:002008-01-02T23:19:00.000-05:00but doesn't one of the legal issues turn upon the ...but doesn't one of the legal issues turn upon the supeona issued by the 911 commission not being obeyed? It was intentionally violated was it not?Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06232405130481114127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-69734004381237010452008-01-02T23:15:00.000-05:002008-01-02T23:15:00.000-05:00"Is the administration looking for a fall guy."Lem..."Is the administration looking for a fall guy."<BR/><BR/>Lemme see: WH is satisfied to have it demonstrated that its counsel recommended against destruction; Justice, which along with the WH could have but didn't at any point order the tapes' preservation, gets to strut its stuff; and Jose, who is spoken of (a tad bafflingly perhaps) in reverent terms, is shown to have acted under the authority of his office, according to the letter of the law, and in the interests of his own people. No one needs a get out of jail free card; everyone's happy.<BR/><BR/>It's Emily Litella's Never Mind Investigation. Your tax dollars at work.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-41463633122855556812008-01-02T23:04:00.000-05:002008-01-02T23:04:00.000-05:00doug wrote (two threads back):"Bubba and the Joos ...doug wrote (two threads back):<BR/><BR/>"Bubba and the Joos offered everything but the Kitchen Sink, but were rebuffed in the end,"<BR/><BR/><BR/>weellll, I'm not convinced that the kitchen sink and all was really offered back in Clinton's day with the Right of Return being just one of the faucets not on offer.<BR/><BR/>There seems to be a general agreement as to what a solution would look like (Two States based on the '67 borders with trades made for settled lands, compensation for denial of right of return, and shared admin/international city for Jerusalem) but the Palis and Israelis don't seem too keen on signing on...most others seem able to live with it.<BR/><BR/>Then there is the cynical armaggedon solution.<BR/><BR/>ummm, a bit o chocolate and a cognac as I ponder when the "endgame" started and ended...Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06232405130481114127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-86674125085517130492008-01-02T22:19:00.000-05:002008-01-02T22:19:00.000-05:00Doug, I've posted a reply to your question. I thin...Doug, <BR/><BR/>I've posted a reply to your question. I think it's accurate. dRat can correct me if it's wrong.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.com