tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post2339707068984301270..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Crackdown and BlowbackDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-72059440412821007822007-09-26T13:47:00.000-04:002007-09-26T13:47:00.000-04:00Well, Ms. T., we know with Hillary Things Will Be ...Well, Ms. T., we know with Hillary <A HREF="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3648738&page=1" REL="nofollow">Things Will Be All Better, For Sure</A><BR/><BR/>And Hillary has Secret Service protection now, but Mr Hsu seemed to have access:)<BR/><BR/>Hillary is a crook.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-72140613342367002272007-09-26T10:59:00.000-04:002007-09-26T10:59:00.000-04:00Tes,There are many ways to skin a potato.Tes,<BR/><BR/>There are many ways to skin a potato.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-31387948259663617402007-09-26T09:31:00.000-04:002007-09-26T09:31:00.000-04:00Metuselah: If I give a speech at a conference hall...Metuselah: <I>If I give a speech at a conference hall in some hotel and wish to only invite my guests, does the first amendment give you the right to crash in and disturb my speech?</I><BR/><BR/>Hotels are one thing, but taxpayer-funded venues are a horse of a different color. So now let's go back and read the fucking article: <BR/><BR/>"The lawsuit names as plaintiffs Jeff and Nicole Rank, who were arrested at a Fourth of July presidential appearance at the <B>West Virginia State Capitol</B> because they were wearing T-shirts critical of the president,Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-50410293183705068302007-09-26T09:27:00.000-04:002007-09-26T09:27:00.000-04:00Metuselah: Aren’t you in fact curtailing my right ...Metuselah: <I>Aren’t you in fact curtailing my right free speech by condoning this kind of hooliganism?</I><BR/><BR/>You're right. And when Hillary gets in there, and gives a speech, I want political background checks on everyone within 800 yards of her podium. What goes around comes around.Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-70115747375332316702007-09-26T09:25:00.000-04:002007-09-26T09:25:00.000-04:00Metuselah: I'm still curious why you would describ...Metuselah: <I>I'm still curious why you would describe Bush's unwillingness to allow potential hoodlums to disrupt his speech as unlawful.</I><BR/><BR/>It is a sad day in America when good old fashioned dissenters are called potential hoodlums who must be whisked away.Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-67480348873972175872007-09-26T01:05:00.000-04:002007-09-26T01:05:00.000-04:00Bob,Peel the skin off and it becomes a public safe...Bob,<BR/><BR/>Peel the skin off and it becomes a public safety issue. There be a riot allowing the potato heads in. :DAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-40126265645892628362007-09-26T01:03:00.000-04:002007-09-26T01:03:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-39725581419809858532007-09-26T01:00:00.000-04:002007-09-26T01:00:00.000-04:00Tue Sep 25, 11:23:00 PM EDTI repeat,Yeah, that's i...Tue Sep 25, 11:23:00 PM EDT<BR/><BR/>I repeat,<BR/><BR/>Yeah, <I>that's</I> it.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10089498195545182330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-19590176829219360422007-09-26T00:46:00.000-04:002007-09-26T00:46:00.000-04:00Moccassin by NikeI quess it would be like Ronald R...<A HREF="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NIKE_INDIAN_SHOE?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US" REL="nofollow">Moccassin by Nike</A><BR/><BR/>I quess it would be like Ronald Reagan used to say, Mat, "I paid for the microphone"--if it's George's paid for event, well, it's his event. I suppose he could require them all to be dressed like tomatos if he wanted. Or potatos. But not potatos in bikinis, his wife wouldn't have allowed that.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-22220091146075004722007-09-26T00:40:00.000-04:002007-09-26T00:40:00.000-04:00Bob, Be that as it may, that doesn't address the q...Bob, <BR/><BR/>Be that as it may, that doesn't address the question. What gives anyone the right heckle and interrupt someone else's, especially the POTUS, right to free speech? Bush obviously wasn't interested in a "debate", that wasn't the venue for that. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Tes,<BR/><BR/>I'm still curious why you would describe Bush's unwillingness to allow potential hoodlums to disrupt his speech as unlawful. What's the legal basis and precedent for such an assertion?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-57065244697983387702007-09-26T00:38:00.000-04:002007-09-26T00:38:00.000-04:00G,Nite Desert RatG,Nite <A HREF="http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html" REL="nofollow">Desert Rat</A>Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12430772330370475102007-09-26T00:23:00.000-04:002007-09-26T00:23:00.000-04:00We usually think of a town hall meeting here Mat, ...We usually think of a town hall meeting here Mat, as a kind of come as you are, whoever you are meeting. Politeness required. That's what it is for, a meeting of a town, in an open hall. And generally a state capital is public domain. If George wants to rent the dome that's his business. I don't know what the format of these events where, but it sounds bad. My wife told me you couldn't get within 10 miles of George, when she happened to be back there during the campaign. Same thing with the democrats I presume. When I watched the campaigns on the tube, they all seemed like robo pubs and robo crats to me. Better to blog, or go fishing.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-6529438401388442972007-09-26T00:04:00.000-04:002007-09-26T00:04:00.000-04:00If you cut down every law to get at the devil, wha...If you cut down every law to get at the devil, what do you stand behind when the devil turns on you?<BR/><BR/>Wretchard didn't include that in his Man For All Seasons piece.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-82535052611394906652007-09-25T23:46:00.000-04:002007-09-25T23:46:00.000-04:00..right ^to free speech....right ^to free speech..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-17163636469080047272007-09-25T23:45:00.000-04:002007-09-25T23:45:00.000-04:00Aren’t you in fact curtailing my right free speech...Aren’t you in fact curtailing my right free speech by condoning this kind of hooliganism?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-39848074531840903432007-09-25T23:40:00.000-04:002007-09-25T23:40:00.000-04:00If I give a speech at a conference hall in some ho...If I give a speech at a conference hall in some hotel and wish to only invite my guests, does the first amendment give you the right to crash in and disturb my speech?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-61128206316046987382007-09-25T23:36:00.000-04:002007-09-25T23:36:00.000-04:00What does that have to do with me not wanting you ...What does that have to do with me not wanting you being a at place where I am to give a speech?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-51522372270105034022007-09-25T23:33:00.000-04:002007-09-25T23:33:00.000-04:00Why would that be unlawful? I’m curious just from ...<I>Why would that be unlawful? I’m curious just from a legal academic point of view.</I><BR/><BR/>Amendment 1: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; <B>or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.</B>Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-74810692295060122272007-09-25T23:29:00.000-04:002007-09-25T23:29:00.000-04:00Tes,Why would that be unlawful? I’m curious just f...Tes,<BR/><BR/>Why would that be unlawful? I’m curious just from a legal academic point of view.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-59830247953250668642007-09-25T23:23:00.000-04:002007-09-25T23:23:00.000-04:00Cutler said...Teresita said... "Bush doesn't have...Cutler said...<BR/><BR/><I><B>Teresita said... "Bush doesn't have the cojones to speak at Columbia, or anywhere else there might be free Americans with anti-Republican Party tshirts on."</B><BR/><BR/> Yeah, that's it.</I><BR/><BR/>The American Civil Liberties Union filed a federal lawsuit against Gregory Jenkins, a former high-level White House staffer who enacted a policy that unlawfully excluded individuals perceived to be critical of the administration from public events where President Bush was present. <BR/><BR/>The lawsuit names as plaintiffs Jeff and Nicole Rank, who were arrested at a Fourth of July presidential appearance at the West Virginia State Capitol because they were wearing T-shirts critical of the president, and Alex Young and Leslie Weise, Denver residents who were thrown out of a town hall meeting with President Bush because they had an anti-war bumper sticker on their car.Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-40356099438105071762007-09-25T22:55:00.000-04:002007-09-25T22:55:00.000-04:00"Bush doesn't have the cojones to speak at Columbi...<I>"Bush doesn't have the cojones to speak at Columbia, or anywhere else there might be free Americans with anti-Republican Party tshirts on."</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, <I>that's</I> it.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10089498195545182330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-85457835728261686102007-09-25T22:33:00.000-04:002007-09-25T22:33:00.000-04:00Craig to Crap Out on court appearance, let lawyer ...Craig to <A HREF="http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/25/craig.arrest/" REL="nofollow">Crap Out</A> on court appearance, let lawyer do all the talking.<BR/><BR/>"Between his June arrest and August guilty plea, Craig also turned up in person at the offices of the Minneapolis-St.Paul International Airport Police, seeking contact information 'so his lawyer can speak to someone', according to a report filed by an officer who talked to Craig."Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-33572360771484816662007-09-25T22:31:00.000-04:002007-09-25T22:31:00.000-04:00I heard Evan Bayh extol the virtues of Hillary on ...I heard Evan Bayh extol the virtues of Hillary on the radio today. Obama is dead in the water. Hillary's got it locked up, unless she has her own bimbo eruption. The Iraq War assures that the Dem nominee will win the top job. And Evan Bayh will be number two. You heard it here first.Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-66057602840124295802007-09-25T22:09:00.000-04:002007-09-25T22:09:00.000-04:00This was a PR coup. Ahmedinejad dared what Bush w...This was a PR coup. Ahmedinejad dared what Bush will not. Bush doesn't have the cojones to speak at Columbia, or anywhere else there might be free Americans with anti-Republican Party tshirts on.Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-68605224828239867082007-09-25T21:13:00.000-04:002007-09-25T21:13:00.000-04:00As I said the other day, this deportation of mussu...As I said the other day, this deportation of mussulmen, is the backdrop to the French sabre rattling vis a vie Iran.<BR/><BR/>On FOX they're about to discuss surgical strikes against Iran's infrastructure.<BR/>Spurs that Jingo <BR/><BR/>Hannity just does not want to talk about<BR/><B>3,700 Troops home for Christmass</B><BR/>Neither does Holmes.<BR/><BR/>Not part of either of their storylinesdesert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.com