tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post117028469077915712..comments2024-03-28T21:41:52.558-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Guest Post - Gunboat Diplomacy and IranDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-3130216824040873892011-01-29T16:36:35.814-05:002011-01-29T16:36:35.814-05:00Delete shis text plz. SorryDelete shis text plz. SorryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-23183400647378346172010-03-13T20:24:19.268-05:002010-03-13T20:24:19.268-05:00http://lumerkoz.edu I bookmarked this guestbook., ...http://lumerkoz.edu I bookmarked this guestbook., http://www.lovespeaks.org/profiles/blogs/buy-famvir oportunidad mutagenic http://msdnbangladesh.net/members/Buy-Atarax/default.aspx waratah sprague http://malgorz.com/members/Buy-Augmentin.aspx dongzak phillipines http://soundcloud.com/furosemide emergence http://www.ecometro.com/Community/members/Buy-Zyprexa.aspx hatsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170332293893317042007-02-01T07:18:00.000-05:002007-02-01T07:18:00.000-05:00Senate Resolution Called DisgraceIt looks like a f...<A HREF="http://www.washtimes.com/national/20070131-112532-3522r.htm" REL="nofollow">Senate Resolution Called Disgrace</A><BR/><BR/>It looks like a few Republicans are calling the resolution what it really is, and the true face of the MSM is showing, how much they hate the military.<BR/><BR/><B>Republicans said the troops in Iraq want the full support of Congress rather than give up on a mission in which they have lost so many comrades. They pointed to an NBC News clip aired last week that has stormed the Internet. <BR/> "One thing I don't like is when people back home say they support the troops but not the war," one soldier interviewed said. "If they're going to support us, support us all the way." <BR/> Spc. Tyler Johnson said, "You're not supporting what they do. They died for you. It don't make sense to me." <BR/> The clip became one of the most-watched clips on YouTube yesterday with more than 38,000 views. <BR/><BR/>William M. Arkin, a Washingtonpost.com columnist, took offense. <BR/> "These soldiers should be grateful that the American public ... do still offer their support to them, and their respect," wrote Mr. Arkin. "Through every Abu Ghraib and Haditha, through every rape and murder, the American public has indulged those in uniform, accepting that the incidents were the product of bad apples or even of some administration or command order." <BR/> The NBC report "is just an ugly reminder of the price we pay for a mercenary -- oops sorry, volunteer -- force that thinks it is doing the dirty work," he added. <BR/></B>Herr Wu Weihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00439448704543478131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170330852891004662007-02-01T06:54:00.000-05:002007-02-01T06:54:00.000-05:00> How do you know you're losing the real war? You ...> How do you know you're losing the real war? You spend A LOT of time fretting about the propaganda war. <BR/><BR/>That's good news because it means the Islamists are losing badly. Almost everything they ever do is propaganda war. They have no military accomplishements in Iraq like holding territory. Just killing of civilians in front of cameras, which are designed for the liberal MSM to broadcast as propaganda showing that "we are losing the war", so the Democrats can then vote us out of Iraq.Herr Wu Weihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00439448704543478131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170330306538327122007-02-01T06:45:00.000-05:002007-02-01T06:45:00.000-05:00> I'll say it again: We cannot get real movement i...> I'll say it again: We cannot get real movement in Afghanistan and Pakistan until that baby is wrapped up. That's just a fact. <BR/><BR/>What is the definition of "wrapped up"? There is no alternative, and the Congress knows it. Even the most extreme Democratic resolutions talk about leaving troops in Iraq for a variety of purposes like "fighting terrorism". We will be in Iraq for a long, long time. No one in Congress will vote to allow a caliphate to form in Iraq and launch 9/11's, and if they did, there is no reason to fight it in Afghanistan or Pakistan.<BR/><BR/>We don't want to fight Iraq's internal battles, but everyone agrees with that. The Democratic plan for reducing troops is the same as Bush had.<BR/><BR/>Even though the political situation seems ugly now, in the longer term two groups will lose, the extremes. One is the anti-war Democrats who want another Vietnam, a total withdrawal and surrender in Iraq. The other is the neo-cons, the ones who think we should take over a country a day.Herr Wu Weihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00439448704543478131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170312742653882252007-02-01T01:52:00.000-05:002007-02-01T01:52:00.000-05:00rufus,And here I thought it was just MY age catchi...rufus,<BR/><BR/>And here I thought it was just MY age catching up with me. You may count me dead the day I forget the pleasure of cold beer and warm ...allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170311671120487162007-02-01T01:34:00.000-05:002007-02-01T01:34:00.000-05:00trish,You are correct: I do not listen to talk rad...trish,<BR/><BR/>You are correct: I do not listen to talk radio or television. Those people are often no more than entertainers. Moreover, I hate bad historical fiction.<BR/>;-)allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170310928922250192007-02-01T01:22:00.000-05:002007-02-01T01:22:00.000-05:00Maybe I have missed something, but "mindless cheer...Maybe I have missed something, but "mindless cheerleading" isn't it.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170309967307127952007-02-01T01:06:00.000-05:002007-02-01T01:06:00.000-05:00Again, the hostility of the MSM is a given. What i...Again, the hostility of the MSM is a given. What is depressing is the silence or outright prevarication by so-called milbloggers. Good grief, the involvement of the Iranians has been known for years to those of us associated with the military. It was also known to the big name conservative bloggers. But the big name conservative bloggers, as the MSM, are selective. When a guy like Ed Morrissey will delete a perfectly respectable comment because his "military" sources find it discomforting, he does as great a disservice to the country and its war fighters as Dan Rather.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170308318529828302007-02-01T00:38:00.000-05:002007-02-01T00:38:00.000-05:00Here’s a resolution bloggers might demand of the S...Here’s a resolution bloggers might demand of the Senate: “We hereby commend the brave Americans who flat out wasted the mot**rf***ers in Somalia.” Indeed, everytime American arms prevail anywhere, bloggers might demand such commendation from the House and Senate. Why, before long, you might have yourself a convoy even the MSM could not ignore.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170307950755101172007-02-01T00:32:00.000-05:002007-02-01T00:32:00.000-05:00Like a bunch of adolescents who would rather appea...Like a bunch of adolescents who would rather appear not to be wrong than to be actually right.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170307770950469242007-02-01T00:29:00.000-05:002007-02-01T00:29:00.000-05:00Too clever by half?Too clever by half?allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170307709004261452007-02-01T00:28:00.000-05:002007-02-01T00:28:00.000-05:00rufus,I expect nothing more from the MSM, but why ...rufus,<BR/><BR/>I expect nothing more from the MSM, but why aren't bloggers, especially milbloggers, putting out those numbers at every opportunity? You get the feeling that some folk wouldn't know a win if it bit them on the ass.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170307534619629282007-02-01T00:25:00.000-05:002007-02-01T00:25:00.000-05:00For instance, it is reported that the great tribal...For instance, it is reported that the great tribalist Sheik Osama bin Laden’s brother-in-law was whacked today. Among a culture holding pride of family as sine qua non, the great leader was posthumously knocked on his ass. And this is a guy who claimed the power to lead Islam into a victorious war with the West. Now, I do not expect Wolf to do cartwheels, but where is the joy among conservative bloggers?allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170306490889506372007-02-01T00:08:00.000-05:002007-02-01T00:08:00.000-05:00Gloom and DoomIn reading an assortment of blogs, I...Gloom and Doom<BR/><BR/>In reading an assortment of blogs, I was taken with how little excitement was generated by the killing at Najaf. There may be another shoe to drop, but what is so damned hard about just savoring the moment? Yes, the President may be a rodent, but why all the circle jerking when US forces kill hundreds of Muslims, many of them “foreign”?<BR/><BR/>Well, I said then and I say now, "Hoorah"!allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170305965907431272007-01-31T23:59:00.000-05:002007-01-31T23:59:00.000-05:00Re: VictoryIf you say you are going to take Vienna...Re: Victory<BR/><BR/>If you say you are going to take Vienna, then, take Vienna.<BR/><BR/>Contratemps Fallujah: if you are not going to take Fallujah, then, STFU.<BR/><BR/>The public has tired of years of unfulfilled administration chatter. There may come a day when the administration will wish to be thought cynical and hypocritical rather than vain and stupid.<BR/><BR/>Do the Iranians see in Mr. Bush the first true Benjamin Spock. president?allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170305586713688722007-01-31T23:53:00.000-05:002007-01-31T23:53:00.000-05:00Would pretty much be peanut dough, though, isn't i...Would pretty much be peanut dough, though, isn't it, duece?desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170303647718279652007-01-31T23:20:00.001-05:002007-01-31T23:20:00.001-05:00The National Council of Resistance of Iran repeate...<I>The National Council of Resistance of Iran repeated claims that it had obtained the names of more than 30,000 Iranian agents working in Iraq, including members of parliament and ranking members of the Iraqi security forces.<BR/><BR/>It also claimed to have uncovered details of facilities in Iran used to make bombs for Iraqi insurgents.<BR/><BR/>The Paris-based council is the political wing of the People's Mujahideen of Iran, deemed a terrorist organisation by the United States and the European Union.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.thewest.com.au/aapstory.aspx?StoryName=352332" REL="nofollow">US Warns Iran</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08208259520563205356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170303627799067932007-01-31T23:20:00.000-05:002007-01-31T23:20:00.000-05:00Big Brass BallsBig Brass <A HREF="http://www.fuzzyco.com/bare/nyif/Images/big/balls.jpg" REL="nofollow"> Balls </A>Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170303445521332262007-01-31T23:17:00.000-05:002007-01-31T23:17:00.000-05:00We actually get enought traffic now that we could ...We actually get enought traffic now that we could make money with advertising, but I think it trashes the look of a blog. I like the clean look and as long as we do not profit, we can pretty much post anything with links and attribution. The Telegraph likes us. We probably quote them as much as anyone.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170303414346590672007-01-31T23:16:00.001-05:002007-01-31T23:16:00.001-05:00loo,The 20 year timeline is a lie, devised by thos...loo,<BR/>The 20 year timeline is a lie, devised by those that refused to even try.<BR/><BR/>2002 State of the Union, Mr Bush said<BR/>"Time is not on our side"<BR/><BR/>It was not until we were well on Course to failure that it became a "Long War".<BR/><BR/>Before that:<I> " I can hear you. (Applause.) I can hear you. The rest of the world hears you. (Applause.) And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon."</I><BR/><BR/>Soon being the operative word at Ground Zero.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170302962853579442007-01-31T23:09:00.000-05:002007-01-31T23:09:00.000-05:00But, sam, he's gonna plead "Not Guilty"! Interesti...But, sam, he's gonna plead "Not Guilty"! <BR/>Interesting that it's not the first time that company may have shipped weapons to Iran.<BR/><BR/>Wonder if the Brits are going to pickup their suspect National, Christopher Tappin, who ran the company out of Britain and has not yet been arrested, but has been charged in the US.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170302900642180172007-01-31T23:08:00.000-05:002007-01-31T23:08:00.000-05:00Excellent posting.> "victory" has lost its meaning...Excellent posting.<BR/><BR/>> "victory" has lost its meaning in this conflict<BR/><BR/>> What was "victory" in terms of the Cold War defined as? <BR/><BR/>I think of it as an outline, like this:<BR/><BR/>Defend ourselves (The ultimate goal)<BR/>-- Cold War II (Putin's Russia)<BR/>-- -- Battle #1 vs. Russia II<BR/>-- Iranian / Shiite threat<BR/>-- -- Threat of nuclear weapons<BR/>-- -- -- Battle #1 vs. Iran Nukes<BR/><BR/>Our ultimate goal is to protect ourselves. There are a lot of general threats like Russia and Iran, and as you have said, it is tough to say exactly what the final victory is there. However, with the goal of protecting ourselves in mind, we can break it down into individual battles like we did in the Cold war. Each of those individual battles needs to have a specific definition of "victory". (When we can't define victory, like in Iraq, it shows something is seriously wrong.)<BR/><BR/>Looking at it another way, some people take a "top down" approach where they try to find a way to win the "war on terror". I look at it from "bottoms up", what are specific threats that the US needs to respond too, the specific battles we need to fight today.<BR/><BR/>> we must not delude ourselves into thinking that "complete victory" is easily attained through force and force alone <BR/><BR/>> our enemies have taken to narratives and netwar, fighting the propaganda front much more effectively than us, <BR/><BR/>Yes, one of the biggest problems which has surfaced since 9/11 is that all the lessons from winning the Cold war have been forgotten, and much of American now sees conventional military warfare (or nukes!) or surrender as the only options.<BR/><BR/>It's amazing that in a "war against terror" which supposedly has our survival at stake, that we throw away so many options, tools that our enemy is using to fight against us. I mean things like patience, restraint, building alliances, divide & conquer, propaganda, economic sanctions, diplomacy, and limited military operations.<BR/><BR/>So supposedly it is a 20 year "war on terror", yet we are told we need to "win" next week, and do it using conventional military force only.Herr Wu Weihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00439448704543478131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170302603395746052007-01-31T23:03:00.000-05:002007-01-31T23:03:00.000-05:00Rufus has a temper like a fire cracker, but he coo...Rufus has a temper like a fire cracker, but he cools down fast. He knows he is needed and welcome.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1170302541611008772007-01-31T23:02:00.000-05:002007-01-31T23:02:00.000-05:00Robert Caldwell of Oregon is accused of acting as ...<I>Robert Caldwell of Oregon is accused of acting as the US agent of a British company which tried to smuggle batteries used to power Hawk anti-aircraft missiles to Iran, a criminal complaint said. <BR/><BR/>The company was in the process of ordering 35 batteries at a cost of $US5,000 ($6450) each from an exporter who was working as an informant for customs officials. The aim was to ship them through Amsterdam and Britain in order to avoid detection. <BR/><BR/>Mr Caldwell was arrested in a sting last week before the batteries could be shipped out of the United States. The complaint indicated Brooklands Freight Services had been smuggling arms to the Middle East for some time.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21153450-23109,00.html" REL="nofollow">Weapons to Iran</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08208259520563205356noreply@blogger.com