tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post116799285946840022..comments2024-03-29T06:35:11.321-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Kurds concerned about US intentions. Need they be concerned? Ahem..Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168043883553627832007-01-05T19:38:00.000-05:002007-01-05T19:38:00.000-05:00elijah,25% of the Turkish population is Kurdish. T...elijah,<BR/><BR/>25% of the Turkish population is Kurdish. The Kurds may be big news, indeed.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168043442498054622007-01-05T19:30:00.000-05:002007-01-05T19:30:00.000-05:00There are many unknown variables with regards to a...There are many unknown variables with regards to a future conflict with Iran and its proxies. Depending on the intensity of the conflict, and I believe it will be intense (meaning total war) I would not underestimate the Pehmerga.<BR/><BR/>"The Kurds are not a significant threat to the regime - hence the regime doesn't rise to the alleged bait." <BR/><BR/>Conservative estimates of the Peshmerga are tens of thousands up to a force of 100,000.<BR/>They are armed with main battle tanks, infantry fighting vehicles,<BR/>armored personnel carriers, and artillery (both self propelled and towed artillery). Moreover, they have received training from both U.S. and Israeli forces and backed by U.S air assets, are a formidable force for both the Syrians and Iranians. <BR/><BR/>"The promise of an independent Kurdish state in Iraq, however, means the out-migration of a disaffected minority from Iran and Syria, which the Iranians and Syrians wouldn't mind."<BR/><BR/>There is a sizable population of Kurds in northern Syria, Iraq, and Iran. If these regimes (Iran and Syria) fall, who is to say "Kurdistan" will be limited to Iraq?<BR/><BR/>DR stated in a previous that Hezzie operatives are among us and may strike during this conflict. He is correct. Perhaps the country will soon learn the wisdom of the founding fathers and the importance of an armed citizenry.Elijahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09180395617090150228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168040005516099822007-01-05T18:33:00.000-05:002007-01-05T18:33:00.000-05:00trish,re: KurdsThere are thousands of potential in...trish,<BR/><BR/>re: Kurds<BR/><BR/>There are thousands of potential internet hits saying just that. For instance, at Yahoo, the search "Kurds abandoned 1991" yeilds 138,000 links. For what ever it is worth, the president of the Kurdistan Autonomous Region, Barzani, said the same last week. <BR/><BR/>What is your problem with Bush "41" having left the Kurds and Shi'a to the tender mercy of Saddam? Certainly, the "No Fly" policy was eventually appreciated, but for the hundreds of thousands of dead, it mattered not a whit.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168034802158508732007-01-05T17:06:00.000-05:002007-01-05T17:06:00.000-05:00More on the Kurds:Kurds threaten to uphold the Ira...More on the Kurds:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.kurdmedia.com/articles.asp?id=13761" REL="nofollow">Kurds threaten to uphold the Iraqi constitution</A>allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168034137870899502007-01-05T16:55:00.000-05:002007-01-05T16:55:00.000-05:00Whether horseshit or bullshit, the Kurds believe i...Whether horseshit or bullshit, the Kurds believe it.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168033185382404352007-01-05T16:39:00.000-05:002007-01-05T16:39:00.000-05:00Don't hold back trish.Don't hold back trish.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168022923739743962007-01-05T13:48:00.000-05:002007-01-05T13:48:00.000-05:00eliyahu,Welcome aboard.eliyahu,<BR/><BR/>Welcome aboard.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168021968105680272007-01-05T13:32:00.000-05:002007-01-05T13:32:00.000-05:00Didn't work from previous post. How about one of t...Didn't work from previous post. How about one of the articles directy...<BR/><BR/>Behind the increasingly shrill rhetoric and saber rattling over Iran’s nuclear ambitions America and Israel are engaged in a secret war against Iran that has echoes of the years when the CIA supported the Afghan mujahideen against the Soviet Union. <BR/><BR/>This time, the United States and Israel are running covert operations with the help of Kurdish militias and rebel Iranian fighters. For some observers, training and arming Islamic fighters smacks of the days of Soviet rule in Afghanistan. <BR/><BR/>Then, the Soviet army, which was the second most powerful military in the world, was defeated by Islamic militants, including men like Osama bin Laden.<BR/><BR/>Now the U.S. military, with Israeli commandos lending a hand, is arming and secretly training a different breed of mujahideen, or Islamic fighters—Kurdish militias with links to ethnic Kurdish communities in Iran and Syria, and fighters from the Iranian Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK), which has bases in southern Iraq and has provided the United States with information about the Iranian military and Iran’s nuclear sites.<BR/><BR/>From the perspective of Washington and Tel Aviv, the history of the Kurds makes them ideal recruits for a covert war against Iran and Syria.<BR/><BR/>During and after Saddam Hussein’s rule, the Kurds of northern Iraq longed for an independent Kurdistan. When the so-called “no-fly zone” was in place over Iraq, the Kurds had protection from the U.S. Air Force and U.S. allies. That enabled them to build a large militia force and to develop a burgeoning economy.<BR/><BR/>But, since the fall of Saddam the Kurds have become disillusioned with the country’s slide into chaos and have hinted that they would be happy to see Iraq divided into three parts. In that event, they would establish an autonomous region called Kurdistan and the rich northern oil fields of Kirkuk would ensure their prosperity for decades to come. <BR/><BR/>Not everyone favors creation of an independent Kurdistan. The Turks, Iranians and Syrians are united in a belief that it would generate instability by encouraging large ethnic Kurdish communities in their countries to demand separation and an alignment with Iraq’s Kurds.<BR/><BR/>In the 20th century ethnic Kurdish demands for autonomy led to more than 30,000 of them being slaughtered by the Turks. In Iran, they were brutally suppressed in three provinces they dominated.<BR/><BR/>As part of a covert scheme to destabilize and soften up the Iranian regime for possible Special Forces attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities, Washington has turned to disaffected Iranian Kurds for help and to Iranian dissidents in the MEK. <BR/><BR/>Using fighters trained by the United States in secret bases in southern Iraq, the MEK has carried out a series of attacks in Iran. In recent months, there has been increasing instability inside three Iranian provinces dominated by Kurds, as well as attacks on Iranian troops near the border with Iraq. A Kurdish guerrilla group claimed responsibility for two of the attacks, saying they were in retaliation for Iranian shelling into Kurdish areas of northern Iraq.<BR/><BR/>New York journalist Seymour Hersh claimed in December 2005 that U.S. combat troops were already in Iran. Following that report, there was an incident near the Iran-Iraq border in January when an Iranian military cargo plane carrying 10 top Iranian Revolutionary Guard commanders mysteriously crashed. Later, there were rumors it was brought down by U.S. Special Forces within Iran.<BR/><BR/>In April 2006, Iran said it shot down a U.S. surveillance drone flying over the country. Israel has been running its own black operations with the help of Kurds it has trained. The Kurds reportedly have strong ties to Israel because it supports the creation of an independent Kurdistan. From an Israeli perspective, such an entity would provide Israel with an ally in a region in which it is totally isolated and would keep Iraq destabilized.<BR/><BR/>It was Israel’s neo-con friends in Washington who once believed a new Iraq would be Israel’s best ally, but the more that vision has turned to nightmare, the more Israel has looked to the creation of a separate Kurdish state in Iraq as the next best thing.<BR/><BR/>Israel’s relationship with the Kurds goes back a long way. During the Iran-Iraq war, the Israelis supplied the Kurds with weapons to attack Saddam Hussein’s forces. Then, after the first Gulf War, when the United States and its allies abandoned the Kurds, Israel continued to provide them with weapons and training.<BR/><BR/>To that end, Israeli special forces and Mossad have been training and recruiting Kurds for clandestine operations and surveillance in Iran and Syria. The advantage of having Kurdish fighters carry out operations is that they can easily blend into ethnic Kurdish communities and sow dissent. <BR/><BR/>They can also recruit rebel elements and build bases for future operations. Kurdish militiamen and fighters from the MEK are seen by Israel as ideal insurgents.Elijahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09180395617090150228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168021674566375292007-01-05T13:27:00.000-05:002007-01-05T13:27:00.000-05:00From attached links, I think the Kurds are on boar...From attached links, I think the Kurds are on board and perhaps they will receive a proper reward. How does one make the links connect directly? Also is it possible to attach pdf files to a comment? Sorry, I am fairly ignorant concerning these issues. <BR/><BR/>http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/us__israel_operate_in_iran.html<BR/><BR/>http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006%5c04%5c05%5cstory_5-4-2006_pg4_14<BR/><BR/>http://www.washtimes.com/world/20060403-125601-8453r.htmElijahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09180395617090150228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168007299042821312007-01-05T09:28:00.000-05:002007-01-05T09:28:00.000-05:00So, Fallon was learning about Tribal Cultures by i...So, Fallon was learning about Tribal Cultures by inviting Chicom Spies to check out our Aegis Destroyers and the Nuke Sub Crown Jewels?<BR/>...reporting from the Pacific.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168000149258179882007-01-05T07:29:00.000-05:002007-01-05T07:29:00.000-05:00by the way partner, nice thread and post on "power...by the way partner, nice thread and post on "power."Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1168000044526760572007-01-05T07:27:00.000-05:002007-01-05T07:27:00.000-05:00affirmative action for the navy kind of thing, sor...affirmative action for the navy kind of thing, sort of a new-age act of inclusion. I'm hip. Actually anyone who says I'm hip, probably aptly demonstrates they are not.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1167993806611398992007-01-05T05:43:00.000-05:002007-01-05T05:43:00.000-05:00Rufus is right. This announcement should shiver an...Rufus is right. This announcement should shiver an Iranian spine or two:<BR/><BR/>"ABC News said Bush was expected to nominate Adm. William Fallon, the top U.S. military commander in the Pacific, to replace Gen. John Abizaid as the head of U.S. Central Command, which is in charge of U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan."Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.com