tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post116405713817314327..comments2024-03-28T21:41:52.558-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Is It is Time for Bush to Resign?Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger117125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164142825707085322006-11-21T16:00:00.000-05:002006-11-21T16:00:00.000-05:00Habu:Not all lies create serious threats to our Na...Habu:<BR/>Not all lies create serious threats to our National Security and future prosperity, as are W's wrt to his pathetic "efforts" to secure the border, stop the flow of criminals by the 10's of thousands and occasional terrorist infiltrators.<BR/>---<BR/><A HREF="http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20061120-094709-8045r.htm" REL="nofollow"> <STRONG>Exit plan benchmarks </STRONG></A><BR/>---<BR/>President Bush's monumental blunders in post-Saddam Iraq have left no thrilling exit strategies. The idea of a unified, democratic, stable and nonsectarian Iraq is fatuous. An exit plan should be more earthbound. Its benchmarks should be fourfold: The United States should not appear to have been defeated by the terrorist insurgency; a civil war in Iraq should be averted; Iran should not be left to dominate the region; and U.S. troops should be withdrawn within 12 months. <BR/>Setting a fixed timetable for American troop withdrawals without more would be clearly deficient. Islamic fanatics would be seen to have defeated the "Great Satan" and recruitment into terrorist ranks would soar. Remember the enormous boost to al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden when the Islamic resistance in Afghanistan (supported by the United States) was seen to have triumphed over the then-superpower Soviet Union. The result was the rise of Taliban, and ultimately the terrorist attacks on America of September 11, 2001. <BR/>In addition, a troop withdrawal, simpliciter, guarantees a murderous civil war between Sunnis, Shi'ites, and Kurds...Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164137706677262332006-11-21T14:35:00.000-05:002006-11-21T14:35:00.000-05:00Doug,why you've turned into a pussy.bush lied?all ...Doug,<BR/>why you've turned into a pussy.<BR/><BR/>bush lied?<BR/><BR/>all men lie<BR/><BR/>you just did about six rants, all lies.Habuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15883037170077821624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164114976792172312006-11-21T08:16:00.000-05:002006-11-21T08:16:00.000-05:00"Shilts learned he was infected with HIV the day h..."Shilts learned he was infected with HIV the day he wrote the final page of <BR/>"And the Band Played On" in March, 1987. <BR/>He had allowed his doctor to test him a year earlier, but asked not to be told the result, fearing it might influence his reporting. <BR/>He did not disclose his condition publicly until last year."<BR/>---<BR/>If only our "leader" had a similar devotion to the truth!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164114725605493232006-11-21T08:12:00.000-05:002006-11-21T08:12:00.000-05:00""I can only answer that I tried to tell the truth..."<I>"I can only answer that I tried to tell the truth and, if not be objective, at least be fair; history is not served when reporters prize trepidation and propriety over the robust journalistic duty to tell the whole story." </I>"<BR/>---<BR/>Thanks, DR, and Trish, for your contributions amidst the din of hero worship.<BR/>(link to Jerry Ford's accomplishment to be posted tomorrow to compare to present day "leaders.")Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164114410078330772006-11-21T08:06:00.000-05:002006-11-21T08:06:00.000-05:00" Shilts was controversial among more radical memb..."<I> Shilts was controversial among more radical members of the movement, some of whom labeled him a "gay Uncle Tom." <BR/><BR/>In the mid-1980s, his stories "<B>suggesting</B>" (well documented by Dave Horowitiz citing health experts... but Jim Jones and Pelosi's Democrat Mafia in SF were well covered (up) by the local MSM and local locos.) that gay bathhouses in San Francisco were breeding grounds for AIDS made him a pariah, unable to walk through the city's Castro District without being jeered or spat upon. <BR/><BR/>When "And the Band Played On" came out, he was attacked for charging that gay groups initially pretended that AIDS did not exist. More recently, he was faulted for opposing the "outing" of prominent, closeted gays, including two four-star generals he described anonymously in "Conduct Unbecoming." <BR/><BR/>Shilts was hurt by such barbs, but refused to alter his message or obscure the truth to win friends.<BR/></I>"Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164113906075296842006-11-21T07:58:00.000-05:002006-11-21T07:58:00.000-05:00"I do not fault him for going with the intelligenc..."<I><B>I do not fault him for going with the intelligence he had. If he were an artillery man and was given bad coordinates. No problem. <BR/>But once he found out they were wrong he has to adjust. </B></I>"<BR/>Amen, and good night, brothers and Sister:<BR/>As Randy Shilts Wrote:<BR/>"And the Band Played On"Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164113300298999162006-11-21T07:48:00.000-05:002006-11-21T07:48:00.000-05:00"In the Nam we beat the NVA to hell and back..it w..."<I>In the Nam we beat the NVA to hell and back..it was people like you back home that undermined the war by giving comfort to the enemy.<BR/></I>"<BR/>---<BR/>I've got a Video of DR doing the Maccarenna in Diapers with a picture of Ho Che Kimchi on them posted on YouTube.<BR/>Just search for: "Maccarenna Kimchi"Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164113221304320162006-11-21T07:47:00.000-05:002006-11-21T07:47:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164112815931239672006-11-21T07:40:00.000-05:002006-11-21T07:40:00.000-05:00"Or wait for that preemptive strike against Iran. ..."<I>Or wait for that preemptive strike against Iran. I'll wait with you, I'm younger by almost a decade, maybe I'll get to see it.</I>"<BR/>---<BR/>UNFAIR!<BR/>This "man" is not a Veteran of the Summer of Love and the Decade of Chemical Re-education!<BR/>What right does he have to raise his voice in this August Forum?<BR/><BR/>(Unless perhaps he's a victim of that Fox Overmedication Syndrome, or a Survior of the Victims of 9-11.)Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164112284796905722006-11-21T07:31:00.000-05:002006-11-21T07:31:00.000-05:00Headline:Global Warming Solved!CO2 displaced into ...Headline:<BR/><B>Global Warming Solved!</B><BR/>CO2 displaced into Space by Ethanol Fumes and Bud Farts.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164111948665885562006-11-21T07:25:00.000-05:002006-11-21T07:25:00.000-05:00Sam said,"Thanks for the link, Rufus. Man, reading...Sam said,<BR/>"<I>Thanks for the link, Rufus. Man, reading that article, this ethanol thing is really taking off. </I>"<BR/>---<BR/>Rufus's Ethanol thang has already reached escape velocity.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164111754146373552006-11-21T07:22:00.000-05:002006-11-21T07:22:00.000-05:00Th th, th, thank you, Mr. President!Damn you Fox!Y...Th th, th, thank you, Mr. President!<BR/>Damn you Fox!<BR/>You spiked my Iced Tea!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164111619755948092006-11-21T07:20:00.000-05:002006-11-21T07:20:00.000-05:00Maybe W's last act before leaving office should be...Maybe W's last act before leaving office should be a Medal of Freedom for Janet Reno for cleaning up things in his immediate neighborhood.<BR/>Gotta keep tabs on them Religious Extremists.<BR/>Survivors of Waco sentenced to re-education by Karen Hughes.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164111394738365232006-11-21T07:16:00.000-05:002006-11-21T07:16:00.000-05:00Rat:Federally produced Palm is a...SLAM DUNK!I'll ...Rat:<BR/>Federally produced Palm is a...<BR/>SLAM DUNK!<BR/>I'll take my Medal of Freedom now, thank you!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164109346411766602006-11-21T06:42:00.000-05:002006-11-21T06:42:00.000-05:00General Shinseki is brought out of retirement and ...General Shinseki is brought out of retirement and tasked with providing special forces in the fence brigades with Berets and Hula Skirts.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164108836158618742006-11-21T06:33:00.000-05:002006-11-21T06:33:00.000-05:00Bush resigns and atones for his constant lying wrt...Bush resigns and atones for his constant lying wrt his "efforts" to curb illegal immigration and secure the border by coming clean, taking full responsibility for the feckless rudderlessness of his foreign "policy," resuscitating the reputation of President Cheney by admitting that he ignored the advice of those older and wiser than he, namely Richard Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, needlessly sacrificing some of our best and brightest by taking the advice of State Dept and others instead, leaving Syria and Iran unmolested in spite of their constant contributions to the chaos and destruction in Iraq.<BR/><BR/>Cheney promptly makes up for lost time by calling on Rumsfeld to stay for the Duration, and they begin their retaliatory/preventive aerial punishment of previously untouched bases and supplies in these two sanctuaries of evil.<BR/><BR/>Rumsfeld makes up for his dangerous and provocative penny pinching ways by immediately begining a buildup of the size of all the services, replenishment of weapons and material, and relief and replenishment of the Gaurd and Reserves.<BR/><BR/>Special emergency orders are enacted requiring all schools and colleges receiving Federal aid to offer ROTC and JROTC, and providing year-round campus access for recruiters.<BR/><BR/>In spite of the additional expenses involved, overall spending is reduced by elimination of the prescription drug benefit and all Federal aid to illegal aliens. No child left behind is eliminated along with the Federal Dept of Education, and all school districts are ordered to provide vouchers to all parents requesting them.<BR/><BR/>Criminal aliens are immediately sent to massive new tent cities/prisons in the desert run by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, and overcrowded jails and prisons are relieved by transferring all illegal's previously locked up in them to Joe's labor camps in the desert.<BR/><BR/>Sheriff Joe is tasked with providing plans and manpower for the National Guard to begin construction on the Border Fence ASAP. <BR/><BR/>Immigrant laborers performing meritoriously on the fence project will be rewarded with lavish vacations at W's ranch in Waco, catered by the staffs and Senators who voted for amnesty, and GWB is required to sleep under the stands at Ranger Stadium until construction of the fence is completed.<BR/><BR/>Mel Martinez is sent South as permanent ambassador to Tijuana, and Tom Tancredo is appointed head of the RNC.<BR/><BR/>The GWOT is wrapped up, and all mosques are closed prior to Cheney leaving office, as are CAIR and the ACLU. <BR/>Karen Hughes is sentenced to a re-education stint at the direction of Sheriff Joe.<BR/><BR/>World Peace Reigns, and the Orgasm for peace is made a permanent yearly event so that Rumsfeld and Cheney will always be remembered and honored by Straight Shooters across the fruited plains.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164086476853876662006-11-21T00:21:00.000-05:002006-11-21T00:21:00.000-05:00Thanks for the link, Rufus. Man, reading that art...Thanks for the link, Rufus. Man, reading that article, this ethanol thing is really taking off.samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08208259520563205356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164085128870936262006-11-20T23:58:00.000-05:002006-11-20T23:58:00.000-05:00The 200-page report says Australia should easily r...<I>The 200-page report says Australia should easily reach the federal government's production target of 350 million litres of ethanol and biodiesel by 2010, but faces rising costs and limited supplies of major feedstocks.<BR/><BR/>Report co-author and EnergyQuest chief executive Graeme Bethune said biofuel production capacity is likely to exceed 640 million litres a year by the end of 2007 and could reach 2,400 million litres by 2010.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.smh.com.au/news/Business/Biofuel-booming-but-needs-more-support/2006/11/21/1163871390155.html" REL="nofollow">Needs More Support</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08208259520563205356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164084453536341462006-11-20T23:47:00.000-05:002006-11-20T23:47:00.000-05:00Yep, another Socialist concern, there in Indodesia...Yep, another Socialist concern, there in Indodesia.<BR/> It'll be full of payola and fraud<BR/><BR/><I>The country plans to invest a massive Rupee 200 trillion (€17.3 bn / US$22 bn) over the next five years to promote the use of alternative fuels using crops such as palm oil, cassava, jatropha and sugar cane for the production of biodiesel and ethanol Energy Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said.<BR/><BR/>About $6 billion will be spent securing 6 million hectares (14.8 million acres) of land, in an as-yet-unspecified location, ..."</I><BR/><BR/>Senator Reid, Congressman Hastert will lead the way. About $500 USD per acre for Indonesia scrub land. <BR/><BR/><I>" ... and the rest will fund factories, roads and other supporting services, he said. </I><BR/><BR/>Central planning of bio fuels will lead to large scale failure. It alway does in other endevours, bio fuel just increased the opportunities for mismanagement.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164083914245132312006-11-20T23:38:00.001-05:002006-11-20T23:38:00.001-05:00Mətušélaḥ said... Obscured By CloudsYou are the...Mətušélaḥ said...<BR/><BR/><I> Obscured By Clouds</I><BR/><BR/>You are the angel of death<BR/>And I am the dead man's son.<BR/>And he was buried like a mole in a fox hole.<BR/>And everyone is still on the run.Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164083898785165762006-11-20T23:38:00.000-05:002006-11-20T23:38:00.000-05:00That'll get 'em about thirty days, not nearly enou...That'll get 'em about thirty days, not nearly enough.<BR/>The boys have to put the hammer down in a big way, or figure a way out. Or both. <BR/><BR/>As to the EB and BC being ahead of the curve, usually by a couple of days, on breaking news, longer on stuff like the Air Bus story, almost two weeks, as I recall.<BR/><BR/>On the "directional" memes sometimes a month, before the herd caught up.<BR/><BR/>You see that the open minded of the "true believers" are tasting some doubt.<BR/>It is an unfamilar flavor to most of them.<BR/><BR/>The Politics will play out, but the Military has to show substanial progress in providing some real Security or the caldrun will boil over, here at home.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164083555215094022006-11-20T23:32:00.000-05:002006-11-20T23:32:00.000-05:00Btw, that was dedicated to old Europe. :DBtw, that was dedicated to old Europe. :DAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164083013253418832006-11-20T23:23:00.000-05:002006-11-20T23:23:00.000-05:00Obscured By CloudsHeaven send the promised landLoo...Obscured By Clouds<BR/><BR/>Heaven send the promised land<BR/>Looks all right from where I stand<BR/>'cause I'm the man on the outside looking in<BR/>Waiting on the first step<BR/>Show me where the key is kept<BR/>Point me down the right line<BR/>Because it's time<BR/>to let me in from the cold<BR/>Turn my lead into gold<BR/>'cause there's a chill wind blowin' in my soul<BR/>and I think I'm growing old<BR/><BR/>Flash the readies<BR/>Wot's... uh the deal?<BR/>Got to make it to the next meal<BR/>Try to keep up with the turning of the wheel<BR/>Mile after mile, stone after stone<BR/>You turn to speak, but you're alone<BR/>Million miles from home, you're on your own<BR/>So let me in from the cold<BR/>Turn my lead into gold<BR/>'cause there's a chill wind blowin' in my soul<BR/>and I think I'm growing old<BR/><BR/>Fire bright by candle light and her by my side<BR/>Or if she prefers, we never stir again<BR/>Someone sent the promised land<BR/>and I grabbed it with both hands<BR/>Now I'm the man on the inside looking out<BR/>Hear me shout:<BR/>Come on in. What's the news? Where you been?<BR/>'Cause there's no wind left in my soul<BR/>and I've grown oldAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164082871655599942006-11-20T23:21:00.000-05:002006-11-20T23:21:00.000-05:00Rufus,Nothing high tech. It's 30 year technology u...Rufus,<BR/><BR/>Nothing high tech. It's 30 year technology used in a straight conversion to heat energy. Solar panels are used to heat water stored in barrels on the roof. Back then, it was decided this would be the most efficient to use of the technology.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1164082426132359872006-11-20T23:13:00.000-05:002006-11-20T23:13:00.000-05:00whit wrote:Instead of posing in those pajamas with...<B>whit</B> wrote:<BR/><BR/><I>Instead of posing in those pajamas with Vlad Putin, the poisoner, he should have been making a damn decision.</I><BR/><BR/>You got to admire the KGB though; at least they're out there doing real spy vs. spy stuff rather than dicking around with leaks and trying to bring down the President. <BR/><BR/><I>This crap about waiting to hear from the Generals is ridiculous.</I><BR/><BR/>Isn't that what you do right after learning of a military coup'd etat? Wait to hear from the Generals?Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.com