tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post8748356060231015851..comments2024-03-29T06:35:11.321-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Another Fine US Ally, Turkey, Fraternal Partner in NATO, Supporting ISIS in Trade and Smuggling Terrorists Into EuropeDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger101125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-58151770483823033352016-04-02T01:27:28.530-04:002016-04-02T01:27:28.530-04:00You just can't be that fucking stupid, galopin...You just can't be that fucking stupid, galopin2.<br /><br />If Clan 'Rufus', God forbid, were to get irradiated by a dirty bomb, you'd be the first in line yelling to nuke 'em all.<br /><br />Clan Rufus is after all the center of the universe, and Rufus the center of the clan.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-67581528655898624052016-04-02T00:51:29.356-04:002016-04-02T00:51:29.356-04:00If you end up living on Waynes' place be prepa...If you end up living on Waynes' place be prepared to cook, feed, wash, and dress yourself.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-73274953257518860302016-04-02T00:44:12.187-04:002016-04-02T00:44:12.187-04:00http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-01/...http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-01/u-s-commandos-trained-to-stop-terrorists-with-dirty-bombs<br /><br />Now, Quirk, this is where you say "thank you da da daddy".<br /><br />:)Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-80236967765659556202016-04-02T00:41:22.896-04:002016-04-02T00:41:22.896-04:00‘Proper Threshold’
Even with U.S. special forces ...‘Proper Threshold’<br /><br />Even with U.S. special forces spending significant time conducting counterterrorism operations, Thomas said those deployments haven’t interfered with preparations to handle a weapon of mass destruction. <br /><br />Thomas said his commandos have “found the proper threshold of maintaining the world’s foremost counterterrorism force” for missions in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere “while ensuring our counterproliferation forces, including the no-fail mission of render-safe, are manned, trained and equipped and prepared to address WMD threats as they arise.”<br /><br />More about the Defense Department’s preparations for using commandos to disarm weapons of mass destruction can be found in the fine print of budget documents.<br /><br />Funding Plans<br /><br />From fiscal 2010 to fiscal 2021, the Pentagon plans to have spent more than $1 billion equipping the Special Operations Command with “a full spectrum” of counterterrorism technologies developed by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, according to budget documents supporting a $103 million request for fiscal 2017.<br /><br />From fiscal 2010 to 2016, the threat-reduction agency received $655 million to spend on these technologies, and it’s proposing about $537 million in additional funding through 2021.<br /><br />The program is intended to give special forces units the “tools to locate, identify, characterize, assess and attack WMD production and storage facilities with minimal-to-no collateral damage or loss of life,” according to the documents. One of last year’s accomplishments was described as development of a “precision shaped charge using a proven manufacturing process.”<br /><br />The Special Operations Command’s embrace of the mission against weapons of mass destruction is something of a turnaround.<br /><br />Maintain Ability<br /><br />In 2010, Admiral Eric Olson, who then headed the command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee in written answers that the commitment of elite commandos to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq had compromised their skills to hunt worldwide for such weapons, diluting the capability.<br /><br />The number of commandos “available for counterproliferation” was limited and their expertise was degraded by “the decreased level of training,” Olson said.<br /><br />In March, Thomas told the panel, “I will continue to use current training and exercise programs” to “maintain our ability to meet our mission to counter” weapons of mass destruction.<br /><br />He said he’ll also push for state-of-the-art technology and transfer “as much capability as is reasonable to forward-deployed” special operations units.<br /><br /><br /><br />Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-37489755750798282652016-04-02T00:40:25.224-04:002016-04-02T00:40:25.224-04:00OK Quirk, you world class lazy arse, here: (does y...OK Quirk, you world class lazy arse, here: (does your wife spoon feed you ?) --<br /><br /><br /><br />U.S. Commandos Trained to Stop Terrorists With `Dirty Bombs' <br /><br />by <br /> Anthony Capaccio <br /><br />April 1, 2016 — 7:59 AM PDT<br /> <br /> Navy Recruits Train For Special Warfare Combatant-Craft Boat Team Units<br />square before the information Moonlight active-duty Special Boat Team members from the Navy's Gulf Coast team participate in drills on the Pearl River at the John C. Stennis Space Center in Mississippi, on Feb. 20, 2013.<br /> Blue Arrow <br />Special operations forces a resource as summit weighs threat<br /><br />Blue Arrow <br />Pentagon plans to spend $1 billion through 2021 on technology<br /><br />U.S. commando units have been trained to seize and disable nuclear or radioactive bombs, providing a crucial last line of defense if terrorists get their hands on such weapons, according to the general in charge of the forces.<br /><br />The U.S. Special Operations Command “has sufficient ‘render-safe’ capacity to respond to the most likely” scenarios involving weapons of mass destruction under the current analysis of threats, Army General Raymond Thomas has told lawmakers.<br /><br />The Pentagon rarely discusses publicly its plans to use commandos if terrorists obtain a nuclear weapon or build a “dirty bomb” from radioactive material. While U.S. officials say there’s no sign yet that Islamic State has such a capability, the prospect was on Friday’s agenda for the Nuclear Security Summit of world leaders being hosted by President Barack Obama in Washington.<br /><br /><br />Thomas described the role U.S. commandos might play in written responses to the Senate Armed Services Committee before his confirmation as head of the Special Operations Command, a post he took this week. He moved up a rung from his previous role heading the Joint Special Operations Command, directly overseeing fabled -- and secretive -- units such as the Army’s Delta Force and the Navy’s SEAL Team 6.<br /><br />Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-86912840875322016212016-04-02T00:27:29.168-04:002016-04-02T00:27:29.168-04:00You jump to conclusions that are not warranted.
Y...You jump to conclusions that are not warranted.<br /><br />You're so lazy you can't seem to do 2 clicks.<br /><br />Two simple clicks, no swiping involved.<br /><br />jeez Lu-eeze<br /><br />Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-89435682489690280162016-04-02T00:01:52.772-04:002016-04-02T00:01:52.772-04:00galopn2Fri Apr 01, 09:34:00 PM EDT
What about thos...galopn2Fri Apr 01, 09:34:00 PM EDT<br />What about those several hundred smaller cities and villages of, say, 500 to 1,000 Iraqis, and 50 to 100 headcutters?<br /><br />Do we nuke them, too?<br /><br /><br />No need, America, Russia, Syria and Iran with Hezbollah's help have already murdered 450,000, wounded over 1.2 million<br /><br />Are you proud?What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12316767680312341212016-04-01T23:56:54.972-04:002016-04-01T23:56:54.972-04:00The United States, with the consent of the United ...The United States, with the consent of the United Kingdom as laid down in the Quebec Agreement, dropped nuclear weapons on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945, during the final stage of World War II. The two bombings, which killed at least 129,000 people, remain the only use of nuclear weapons for warfare in history.<br /><br />What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12043325843884454192016-04-01T23:53:28.155-04:002016-04-01T23:53:28.155-04:00.
As I thought. All you do is read the headlines....<br /><br />As I thought. All you do is read the headlines on Drudge. You're too lazy to bother actually pulling up the article.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-7923777452566389422016-04-01T22:05:24.933-04:002016-04-01T22:05:24.933-04:00You just can't be that fucking stupid.You just can't be that fucking stupid.<br /><br />galopn2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10149969176825932175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-9759095533398141332016-04-01T22:02:21.676-04:002016-04-01T22:02:21.676-04:00If I put up a link, you have to swipe the link, on...If I put up a link, you have to swipe the link, one operation, then click on the link, so that's two operations.<br /><br />Likewise if I put up a link, it's two operations for me.<br /><br />A draw.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-66565124474055929852016-04-01T21:55:27.152-04:002016-04-01T21:55:27.152-04:00The "Q"Nit alert concerning the bus stat...The "Q"Nit alert concerning the bus station in Virginia is withdrawn. The shooter's name was not moslem or Arabic.<br /><br />I will put up no further 'unconfirmed "Q"Nit alerts'.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-54347832579786813792016-04-01T21:50:05.440-04:002016-04-01T21:50:05.440-04:00What have I said above ?
Do you see me advocating...What have I said above ?<br /><br />Do you see me advocating vaporizing all of Mosul ?<br /><br />More than tactical nukes would be needed to do that.<br /><br />Read the article.<br /><br />If ISIS lights off a dirty bomb in Detroit, I imagine nearly 100% of the American people will be for vaporizing Mosul and many other places as well.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-27628315575307442052016-04-01T21:46:07.831-04:002016-04-01T21:46:07.831-04:00If you don't want to hang out with me, you can...If you don't want to hang out with me, you can hang out with my friend Wayne, maybe haul feed for the cattle. I know he's got one small empty house where you can stay.<br /><br />********<br /><br />Go to Drudge and click on the story.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-41338908788018403092016-04-01T21:38:20.842-04:002016-04-01T21:38:20.842-04:00Should we have immolated the 200,000 or so men, wo...Should we have immolated the 200,000 or so men, women, and children in Ramadi?galopn2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10149969176825932175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-92037831664449861792016-04-01T21:34:51.009-04:002016-04-01T21:34:51.009-04:00What about those several hundred smaller cities an...What about those several hundred smaller cities and villages of, say, 500 to 1,000 Iraqis, and 50 to 100 headcutters?<br /><br />Do we nuke them, too?galopn2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10149969176825932175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-38852319862116086552016-04-01T21:30:57.950-04:002016-04-01T21:30:57.950-04:00According to Wikipedia
there are probably 600,000...According to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosul" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a><br /><br />there are probably 600,000 people currently residing in Mosul, Iraq.<br /><br />Do you vaporize that half a million + men, women, and children to kill the 2,000 or 3,000 terrorists in their midst?galopn2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10149969176825932175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-54912937294198160902016-04-01T21:01:48.145-04:002016-04-01T21:01:48.145-04:00.
Put up a link.
..<br /><br />Put up a link.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-11167250921479011662016-04-01T21:00:55.218-04:002016-04-01T21:00:55.218-04:00There will always be a Safe Space for you here, Qu...There will always be a <b>Safe Space</b> for you here, Quirk.<br /><br />:)Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-65898242963394747122016-04-01T20:56:16.379-04:002016-04-01T20:56:16.379-04:00Yup, you're gonna end up in God's Country,...Yup, you're gonna end up in God's Country, Quirk.<br /><br />Go to Drudge Report, Quirk-O, and click on this -<br /><br /><b>American Commandos Train to Stop Terrorists With 'Dirty Bombs'.....DRUDGE</b>Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-84053952829975664892016-04-01T20:51:38.630-04:002016-04-01T20:51:38.630-04:00You're gonna end up in Idaho, Quirk, I just kn...You're gonna end up in Idaho, Quirk, I just know it, you're gonna up in God's Country.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-64653123912697453372016-04-01T20:43:37.310-04:002016-04-01T20:43:37.310-04:00Quirk, dear Quirk, I haven't actually advocate...Quirk, dear Quirk, I haven't actually advocated it, just pointing out possibilities, pointing out it very hard to calculate amounts of human suffering, and, I should think, and predict, that if Detroit gets a dirty bomb you yourself will be screaming:<br /><br /><b>"Help me, Uncle Sam, HELP ME, UNCLE SAM !!!"</b><br /><br />You're a lucky guy.<br /><br />If Uncle Sam won't help you, you can always seek refuge on Uncle Bob's Farm, or stubbornly stay there and glow in the dark.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-14239583722436997682016-04-01T20:21:56.636-04:002016-04-01T20:21:56.636-04:00.
From WIKI...
Risk of escalating a conflict
Us....<br /><br />From WIKI...<br /><br /><i>Risk of escalating a conflict<br /><br />Use of tactical nuclear weapons against similarly-armed opponents carries a significant danger of quickly escalating the conflict beyond anticipated boundaries, from the tactical to the strategic.[4][5][6][7][8][9] The existence and deployment of small, low-yield tactical nuclear warheads could be a dangerous encouragement to forward-basing and pre-emptive nuclear warfare,[10][11] as nuclear weapons with destructive yields of 10 tons of TNT (e.g., the W54 warhead design) might be used more willingly at times of crisis than warheads with yields of 100 kilotons.<br />Russian OTR-21 Tochka missile. Capable of firing a 100 kiloton nuclear warhead a distance of 185 km<br />American MGR-3 Little John missile, measuring 4.4. meters long with a diameter of 32 cm and a weight of 350 kg. Capable of firing a W45 warhead (10 kiloton yield) a distance of 19 km<br />French Pluton missile circa 1970s. Capable of firing a 15 kiloton nuclear warhead a distance of 120 km<br />Red Beard, a British gravity bomb of the early 1960s with a destructive yield of 25 kilotons<br /><br />For example, firing a low-yield nuclear artillery shell similar to the W48 (with a yield equivalent to 72 tons of TNT) at the enemy invites retaliation. It may provoke the enemy into responding with several nuclear artillery shells similar to the W79, which had a 1 kiloton yield. The response to these 1 kiloton nuclear artillery shells may be to retaliate by firing a tactical nuclear missile similar to a French Pluton (15 kiloton yield), Russian OTR-21 Tochka (100 kiloton yield) or the American MGM-52 Lance, fitted with a W70 variable yield warhead ranging between 1 and 100 kilotons. By using tactical nuclear weapons there is a high risk of escalating the conflict until it reaches a tipping point which provokes the use of strategic nuclear weapons such as ICBMs. Additionally, the tactical nuclear weapons most likely to be used first (i.e., the smallest, low-yield weapons such as nuclear artillery dating from the 1960s) have usually been under less stringent political control at times of military combat crises than strategic weapons.[12] Early Permissive Action Links could be as simple as a mechanical combination lock.[13] If a relatively junior officer in control of a small tactical nuclear weapon (e.g., the M29 Davy Crockett) were in imminent danger of being overwhelmed by enemy forces, he could request permission to fire it and due to decentralised control of warhead authorization, his request might quickly be granted during a crisis.<br /><br />For these reasons, stockpiles of tactical nuclear warheads in most countries' arsenals have been dramatically reduced c. 2010, and the smallest types have been completely eliminated.[14] Additionally, the increased sophistication of "Category F" PAL mechanisms and their associated communications infrastructure mean that centralised control of tactical nuclear warheads (by the country's most senior political leaders) can now be retained, even during combat.<br /><br />Some variable yield nuclear warheads such as the B61 nuclear bomb have been produced in both tactical and strategic versions. Whereas the lowest selectable yield of a tactical B61 (Mod 3 and Mod 4) is 0.3 kilotons (300 tons),[15] modern PAL mechanisms ensure that centralised political control is maintained over each weapon, including their destructive yields.<br /><br />With the introduction of the B61 Mod 12, the United States will have four hundred identical nuclear bombs whose strategic or tactical nature will be set purely by the type of aircraft on which they are carried.[16]</i><br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-90951115259521249582016-04-01T20:20:16.179-04:002016-04-01T20:20:16.179-04:00.
....if you would run this through your Quirk....<br /><br /><i>....if you would run this through your Quirk's Human Suffering Calculator and give us some numbers, please....then we can decide...</i><br /><br /><br />42<br /><br />Surely, a person that is so simple as to suggest introducing nukes into a situation as volatile and with as many players as Syria/Iraq can't be looking for anything more complicated than that. <br /><br />.<br /><br />SurelyQuirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-5617839964670993132016-04-01T20:11:51.101-04:002016-04-01T20:11:51.101-04:00.
It's not talking about the big nukes, Quirk....<br /><br /><i>It's not talking about the big nukes, Quirk, just the little ones. It's sadistic to draw out the suffering by endless pinprick strikes, that's the argument. Artillery shell battlefield mini-nukes, not vaporizing Mosul...</i><br /><br /><br />How friggin small do you think 'just a little one' is? If you are unsure, you might want to look it up.<br /><br />.<br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.com