tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post8677958703577456464..comments2024-03-18T16:10:41.673-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Clueless!Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-73795742515509351462011-09-07T19:10:13.572-04:002011-09-07T19:10:13.572-04:00No, I don't care a whit about the British havi...No, I don't care a whit about the British having burned down the White House. No more than I would have cared if Lee burned it down. I am more concerned that Obama is in it.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-62730134525562949922011-09-07T17:59:24.746-04:002011-09-07T17:59:24.746-04:00And finally, I would say to all our good friends w...<i>And finally, I would say to all our good friends who have supplied our enemies, start building bomb shelters.</i><br /><br />And the meaning of this is just what???<br /><br />rAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-397748600308510992011-09-07T17:44:39.367-04:002011-09-07T17:44:39.367-04:00Deuce,
Thanks.
Those missiles are a HUGE BIG de...Deuce,<br /><br />Thanks. <br /><br />Those missiles are a HUGE BIG deal. I predict that they are going to be used against passenger aircraft unless found and destroyed. We should thank Putin the Just for having kicked us in the teeth - AGAIN!!!allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-19491786540960309552011-09-07T17:44:33.476-04:002011-09-07T17:44:33.476-04:00Cedarford said...
Allen and What is "Occupati...Cedarford said...<br />Allen and What is "Occupation" equate any criticism of Israel or Jewish individuals, groups - as anti-Semitic. <br /><br /><br /><br />Actually no...<br /><br />Try again lard ass...What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-48830922835095953252011-09-07T17:43:10.868-04:002011-09-07T17:43:10.868-04:00Deuce
Don't equate the reluctance of bought a...Deuce<br /><br />Don't equate the reluctance of bought and paid for American politicians as acceptance by Americans that know the facts as opposed to your apologetic fantasies for all things Israel , all the time..<br /><br /><br /><br />Deuce, <br /><br />I for one value the lives of American service people. MY FAMILY INCLUDED.<br /><br />I have Uncles that have served in WW2, Korea and Vietnam. Not all of them came back, and some of them left pieces of their flesh...<br /><br />The USS Liberty cannot be understood the way you paint it....<br /><br />Israel did not launch an attack on an American ship innocently sailing around the Med.<br /><br />It was a war zone.<br /><br />All American forces were ordered OUT OF THT AREA.<br /><br />That aint MY fantasy, that is a fact.<br /><br />The fact that the USS Liberty was taken over by a rouge NSA agent and defied ORDERS to leave the area who is to blame?<br /><br />Your depth of the subject lacks....<br /><br />It's sounds like you know enough to understand talking points but not much more....<br /><br />The talking points you know? Come from the very places of Israel hating... There seems to be no grey there...<br /><br />You dont seem to have as much anger or hostility at the British (for example) that burned our Whitehouse down..... (1812) Nor do you seem to have as much anger towards the Syrians or Iranians or even Hezbollah that have murdered in cold blood many more American servicemen....<br /><br />No, one level of anger to Israel, really nothing for anyone else....What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-9717060118614445042011-09-07T17:40:23.281-04:002011-09-07T17:40:23.281-04:00For about the thousandth time I will say that were...For about the thousandth time I will say that were I calling the shots in Israel things would be different. We would still be roundly hated by nutters but our strategic position would be far, far stronger - perhaps unassailable. There would be no bluff or bluster. I don't sleep with boys. I don't spit on Superman's cape. And I don't go to a gunfight with a pocket knife. That is why, despite being old and battered, I am still in the land of the living. <br /><br />Step one would be the simple declaration: Never again. I might even create a tempest by setting off a little firecracker. Step two would be the promise that the first time Israel's security was threatened, she would launch. And finally, I would say to all our good friends who have supplied our enemies, start building bomb shelters.<br /><br />Wasn't it Rick Perry who was quoted as saying, "Adios mofo"?allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-23219769901522350952011-09-07T17:31:08.004-04:002011-09-07T17:31:08.004-04:00Allen, Hat Tip on next post.Allen, Hat Tip on next post.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-22651941805893794422011-09-07T17:29:30.362-04:002011-09-07T17:29:30.362-04:00Deuce
They were American seaman doing the job as...Deuce<br /><br /><br />They were American seaman doing the job assigned to them shit bird. They sailed under an American flag and the bastards that killed them were lucky that some series American firepower wasn't put on them so that would be something else they should never forget.<br /><br /><br /><br />they were American seamen put into harms way by an illegal action.<br /><br />American firepower were miles away, complying with direct military orders to LEAVE the area.<br /><br />Any SHIP in that area at that time was a "hostile", since America stated that it had evac'd ALL AMERICAN SHIPPING...<br /><br />Those Americans were killed by the illegal actions of the NSA that put them in danger....<br /><br />Do you really believe that a "flag" is proof in a war zone?<br /><br />How many times (in war) has one side or the other falsely portrayed themselves?<br /><br />Did egypt OWN no American FLAGS to hoist?What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-33590647805619887732011-09-07T17:28:45.963-04:002011-09-07T17:28:45.963-04:00Cedarford,
... ... ... ... ... Naaaah :-)Cedarford,<br /><br />... ... ... ... ... Naaaah :-)allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-39912516878557156812011-09-07T17:11:49.666-04:002011-09-07T17:11:49.666-04:00The Won may have finally succeeded in doing someth...The Won may have finally succeeded in doing something no other president has accomplished. In doing so, America's strategic dominance is at peril.<br /><br /><a href="http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/07/exclusive-libyan-missiles-looted/" rel="nofollow">EXCLUSIVE: Libyan missiles looted</a>allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-65226016345204372332011-09-07T16:35:32.948-04:002011-09-07T16:35:32.948-04:00Allen and What is "Occupation" equate an...Allen and What is "Occupation" equate any criticism of Israel or Jewish individuals, groups - as anti-Semitic. They exhibit a disgusting dual loyalty. Always the same meme, Jews show the world just how noble, honest, trustworthy, and valuable an ally the Jewish State is.<br /><br />We are to recoil from their immunity amulet claimed because Jews have suffered in a way that somehow did not confer a similar immunity amulet on other freely-criticized groups like Armenians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Rwandans, Cambodians...<br /><br />Their bellicose insistence that any criticism of any Jew or of Israel is out of bounds only serves to set them apart from the rest of the World and further isolates them.<br /><br />It also makes for interesting times when Jews who claim criticism is wrong because Jews or Israel is too good, too noble, too smart to ever engage in atrocities, treachery, or venal corruption get caught red-handed at it.<br /><br />As for Israel's treachery, Desert Rat just documents the duplicity with regards to the USS Liberty , selling pilfered US technology to China, stealing US secrets and manipulating American pols. When top secret defense technology is transferred to the Chinese or Soviets by Jews like Pollard and Israeli defense firms, not a squeak from the two of them.<br /><br />That is simple deceit and treachery.<br /><br />Payback for Israel's untrustworthiness is now open and public. Less people are less afraid to call them for what they are.<br /><br />Too bad Allen. All your bluff and bluster will not hide your transparency.Cedarfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00602418702398818596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-26476150182992340792011-09-07T16:34:19.646-04:002011-09-07T16:34:19.646-04:00UN Report on Flotilla Incident Exonerates Israel
...<a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/un-report-flotilla-incident-exonerates-israel_592127.html" rel="nofollow">UN Report on Flotilla Incident Exonerates Israel</a><br /><br />The panel concludes that the “humanitarians” on the Mavi Marmara came armed for a fight: <br /><br />"<i>iIt is clear to the Panel that preparations were made by some of the passengers on the Mavi Marmara well in advance to violently resist any boarding attempt….The Panel accepts, therefore, that soldiers landing from the first helicopter faced significant, organized and violent resistance from a group of passengers when they descended onto the Mavi Marmara. Material before the Panel confirms that this group was armed with iron bars, staves, chains, and slingshots and there is some indication that they also used knives.389 Firearms were taken from IDF personnel and passengers disabled at least one by removing the ammunition from it. Two soldiers received gunshot wounds. There is some reason to believe that they may have been shot by passengers, although the Panel is not able to conclusively establish how the gunshot wounds were caused. Nevertheless, seven other soldiers were wounded by passengers, some seriously</i>".<br /> <br />It is not startling that in the face of this Turkey rejected the report. Nor is it surprising that Israel rejected Turkey’s astonishing demands for an apology. Israelis from left to right rejected that demand, knowing that an abject apology in such a situation would weaken their country’s reputation for strength and resolve in the entire Middle East. And in Israel’s situation, such a weakening in front of enemies and potential enemies would be dangerous. Moreover, Israel survives with an unspoken but critical understanding between its army and its populace: we defend you, and you defend us. Throwing the young commandos to the wolves, opening them to prosecution, calling their heroic acts unlawful, would have broken that pact.<br /> <br />It is with all of this in mind that the actions of the Obama administration must be seen as miserable. For instead of defending Israel, the White House has for weeks been pressuring Israel for an abject apology to Turkey. Why? The obvious reasons were given: Gee, we need Erdogan on Syria and Egypt, we needed him on Libya, come on, patch things up, it’s just words.<br /><br />So this is another example of the Obama Administration refusing the strong support Israel needs and looking instead to find compromises—tawdry, damaging, dangerous. After 31 months of this, no one should be surprised. <strong>But when a UN commission takes what is in many ways a stronger moral stance in defiance of the UN’s automatic anti-Israel majority than does our own government, we have a right to be disgusted.</strong>Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-56895987402278045782011-09-07T16:31:55.980-04:002011-09-07T16:31:55.980-04:00The vast majority of Americans love and support Is...The vast majority of Americans love and support Israel. To learn that you have to look at scientific polling data and avoid biased propaganda. That is why Mr. Obama, despite his sympathies for his Muslim "brothers", will have to sell out the PA on 20 Sep 2011. That is why the American public will crucify him if he fails to release military supplies in the pipeline when the scimitar hits the wall.<br /><br />"...59 percent -- nearly 6 in 10 -- said their sympathies were with Israel, while just 18 percent sided with the Palestinians. When respondents were asked for their opinion of various countries, 63 percent said they had a favorable view of Israel (21 percent said very favorable), compared with just 15 percent who thought highly of the Palestinian Authority..."<br /><a href="http://www.aish.com/jw/me/79484162.html" rel="nofollow">Why Are Americans So Pro-Israel</a><br /><br />For whatever it is worth, those hating Israel the most and loving the poor PA unconditionally are American Jews. It is no accident that all the pioneers of psychotherapy and psychology were Jews...just a thought...allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-32188243641877999652011-09-07T16:13:48.252-04:002011-09-07T16:13:48.252-04:00The Retribution Will Not Be Televised
Ten years a...<a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2303133?wpisrc=xs_wp_0001" rel="nofollow">The Retribution Will Not Be Televised</a><br /><br />Ten years after 9/11, our answer to al-Qaida won't be on 9/11.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-86757794159754127392011-09-07T16:08:38.582-04:002011-09-07T16:08:38.582-04:00Pardon my misread....
The USS Liberty?
Isnt that...<i>Pardon my misread....<br /><br />The USS Liberty?<br /><br />Isnt that the USA ship that was off on an illegal NSA mission to collect an electronic war map that was being sent to the Brits on Cyprus and then sent to the Egyptians?</i><br /><br />They were American seaman doing the job assigned to them shit bird. They sailed under an American flag and the bastards that killed them were lucky that some series American firepower wasn't put on them so that would be something else they should never forget.<br /><br />Don't equate the reluctance of bought and paid for American politicians as acceptance by Americans that know the facts as opposed to your apologetic fantasies for all things Israel , all the time..Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-28435338340974751562011-09-07T15:55:39.402-04:002011-09-07T15:55:39.402-04:00aka,
Doodoo Economicsaka,<br /><br />Doodoo EconomicsDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-38750585848317184532011-09-07T15:43:51.183-04:002011-09-07T15:43:51.183-04:00"Yeah, the Turks liberated the Greeks for the..."<i>Yeah, the Turks liberated the Greeks for their own good - sort of like the Roman liberation of Jerusalem. Or, how about the liberation of more than a million Armenians by the Turks?</i>"<br /><br />---<br />also,<br /><br />Obamanomics is the GOP's fault.<br /><br />Rufus joins RatWorld on that one.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-23752364274409924222011-09-07T15:40:10.057-04:002011-09-07T15:40:10.057-04:00WiO,
All I know with certainty about the USS Libe...WiO,<br /><br />All I know with certainty about the USS Liberty is that hundreds fine military personnel worked to help produce over 2400 pages of history that exonerates Israel from the charge of having made a malicious attack against a US vessel at sea. Of course, they were all in the palms of the KiKe Konspiracy of world domination. <br /><br />When I took the time to put up the links to the reports and the thousands of pages of evidence, people on this site actually attacked the data within minutes. Now! You call that screed reading.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-23584222468839546232011-09-07T15:35:49.908-04:002011-09-07T15:35:49.908-04:00Some liberated Armenians
By the way, the Turks con...<a href="http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Darmenian&w=160&h=114&imgurl=www.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Darmenian%23focal%3Deb4ff8999bb88a3597269abf8771638f%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fswilliamsjd.files.wordpress.com%252f2010%252f03%252farmenian-genocide-proof.jpeg&size=&name=search&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Darmenian%23focal%3Deb4ff8999bb88a3597269abf8771638f%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fswilliamsjd.files.wordpress.com%252f2010%252f03%252farmenian-genocide-proof.jpeg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Darmenian%23focal%3Deb4ff8999bb88a3597269abf8771638f%26furl%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fswilliamsjd.files.wordpress.com%252f2010%252f03%252farmenian-genocide-proof.jpeg&p=armenian&type=&no=1&tt=115&oid=http%3A%2F%2Fts4.mm.bing.net%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.aspx%3Fq%3D1082234709595%26id%3D56c150159441f75b514e520242127a53&tit=...+%29disputed%3A+The+Armenian+Genocide+of+1915+%C2%BB+Armenian+Genocide+%28proof&sigr=15guq4686&sigi=159jl7i3h&sigb=11i58j269&fr=yfp-t-701" rel="nofollow">Some liberated Armenians</a><br />By the way, the Turks continue to deny their ghastly deed, frothing if anyone dares mention the history – like someone here.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-68000034609185814952011-09-07T15:30:53.245-04:002011-09-07T15:30:53.245-04:00allen said...
WiO,
I don't mean to interfer, ...allen said...<br />WiO,<br /><br />I don't mean to interfer, but I do not think DR drew the analogy you think. No, he was, instead equating the USS Liberty incident during the fog of war with the murder of a kike on a cruise. Had the bad guys tied "Mrs. Kike" to the back of the wheelchair and tossed them both overboard, it would have been all the same to DR.<br /><br />DR is a subtle thinker.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Pardon my misread....<br /><br />The USS Liberty?<br /><br />Isnt that the USA ship that was off on an illegal NSA mission to collect an electronic war map that was being sent to the Brits on Cyprus and then sent to the Egyptians?What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-59172941140008296382011-09-07T15:28:23.966-04:002011-09-07T15:28:23.966-04:00WiO,
Isn't it passing strange that DR has nev...WiO,<br /><br />Isn't it passing strange that DR has never acknowledged or called for the liberation of "occupied Cyprus"?<br /><br />In that case it was Greek Christians eating Muslim steel.<br /><br />Yep, you do have to admit the guy consistent. The enemies of Islam are his enemies.<br /><br /><a href="http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/" rel="nofollow">Occupied Cyprus Project</a><br /><br />Yeah, the Turks liberated the Greeks for their own good - sort of like the Roman liberation of Jerusalem. Or, how about the liberation of more than a million Armenians by the Turks?allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-31351257858301839062011-09-07T15:19:18.259-04:002011-09-07T15:19:18.259-04:00WiO,
Pardon! I failed to mention that, re the USS...WiO,<br /><br />Pardon! I failed to mention that, re the USS Liberty, the score remains 13 for Israel and 0 for the nutters.<br /><br />That felt so good, I think I'll do it again :-)<br /><br />Israel 13<br />Nutters 0allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-9521252328593982822011-09-07T15:17:29.021-04:002011-09-07T15:17:29.021-04:00WiO,
I don't mean to interfer, but I do not t...WiO,<br /><br />I don't mean to interfer, but I do not think DR drew the analogy you think. No, he was, instead equating the USS Liberty incident during the fog of war with the murder of a kike on a cruise. Had the bad guys tied "Mrs. Kike" to the back of the wheelchair and tossed them both overboard, it would have been all the same to DR.<br /><br />DR is a subtle thinker.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-39228699074738730472011-09-07T15:14:48.515-04:002011-09-07T15:14:48.515-04:00U.S. Army Orders First Suicide Drones
Operators c...<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/07/us-army-orders-first-suicide-drones/" rel="nofollow">U.S. Army Orders First Suicide Drones</a><br /><br />Operators can even call off strikes at the last second after arming the Switchblade. That kind of control allows soldiers to retarget in case an enemy moves out of sight, or avoid collateral damage if a civilian wanders too close.<br /><br />The drone, created by AeroVironment, is able to fly in both autonomous robot mode or as a remotely-piloted air vehicle. Either way, its small size and quiet electric motor allow it to approach targets without warning. It can even switch off its motor and glide in for a stealthy attack.<br /><br />"Just as our small unmanned aircraft systems provide game-changing reconnaissance capabilities to ground forces, Switchblade provides a revolutionary rapid strike capability to protect our troops and give them a valuable new advantage on the battlefield," said Tom Herring, AeroVironment senior vice president and general manager of Unmanned Aircraft Systems.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-48667459853883323232011-09-07T15:14:39.129-04:002011-09-07T15:14:39.129-04:00"customers"
aka, victims"customers"<br />aka, victimsDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.com