tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post8330214261483323078..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: More Bombings Are No SurpriseDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-20062308849608265522007-11-23T17:08:00.000-05:002007-11-23T17:08:00.000-05:00Guard and wife beheaded in front of the kids in po...Guard and wife beheaded in front of the kids in political--er, no-- that's religious retaliation. <A HREF="http://www.christiantoday.com/article/iraqi.school.guard.and.wife.beheaded.as.children.watch/14826.htm" REL="nofollow">Here</A> <BR/><BR/>They was breakin' the Koran, a no-no.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-23282918485889746612007-11-23T14:47:00.000-05:002007-11-23T14:47:00.000-05:00"There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding foru..."There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war ... and of influencing the views of the weak-minded American who pays his taxes so they will go to the infidel American army. This American is an idiot and does not know where Iraq is ... every electronic mujahid" must engage in this raiding, Mr. Billah writes.<BR/><BR/>The writing should, he says, provoke "frustration and anger towards their government, which will ... render them hostile.. and make them feel they must vote to bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible."<BR/><BR/>Ash, I've bought you a free pass to JihadWatch, and dhimmiWatch, now all you have to do is click the mouse.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-8607936968221072182007-11-23T13:54:00.000-05:002007-11-23T13:54:00.000-05:00In identifying those trying to kill us, we should ...<A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2215010,00.html" REL="nofollow">In identifying those trying to kill us, we should choose our words carefully<BR/><BR/><BR/>'Islamofascists' and 'Islamists' are not the right labels. But Muslim opinion leaders must condemn violent jihadists<BR/><BR/>Timothy Garton Ash<BR/>Thursday November 22, 2007<BR/>The Guardian </A>Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06232405130481114127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-81541887172934613032007-11-23T11:33:00.000-05:002007-11-23T11:33:00.000-05:00Sorry, Ash, as we have been told repeatedly the fu...Sorry, Ash, as we have been told repeatedly the fundies do not make a distinction between politics and religion. So, while political retaliation may be the "key motivator" the facilitators have been the religious leaders. The funding has been through Islamic charities. The vitriole to encourage the madness has been desseminated from the Mosques.<BR/><BR/>Try again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-24865573087499512282007-11-23T11:18:00.000-05:002007-11-23T11:18:00.000-05:00Many here have noted how not particularly religiou...Many here have noted how not particularly religious were the suicide attackers involved in the 911 attacks yet many persist in yelping how "Islam is the problem".<BR/><BR/>I came across this article and thought of you all:<BR/><BR/>"<BR/><BR/>THE MIDEAST CONFLICT<BR/>Suicide bombers likely sane, paper says<BR/>University of Toronto professor argues that political retaliation is the key motivator - not religious zeal<BR/><BR/>OMAR EL AKKAD<BR/><BR/>November 21, 2007<BR/><BR/>Suicide bombers are not crazy and indeed are often driven primarily by motivators other than religious zeal, argues a University of Toronto sociology professor in a new research paper he says is likely to prove controversial.<BR/><BR/>In a paper published in the November issue of Contexts, a journal of the American Sociological Association published by University of California Press, Robert Brym argues that the most effective way of developing a workable strategy for dealing with such assaults is first understanding the assailant's point of view."<BR/><BR/>snip<BR/><BR/>"Dr. Brym was quick to point out that empathy doesn't have to entail "warm and fuzzy feelings" for the other side, but rather meaningful rewards and goals, such as releasing Palestinian tax dollars and working toward a two-state solution.<BR/><BR/>Intertwined with Dr. Brym's thesis is a parallel argument that suicide bombers are not necessarily driven by religion. In the case of the Middle East conflict, he says, notions of martyrdom and holy war began to gain popularity after secular approaches failed. He highlights another study that found fewer than half of suicide bombers between 1980 and 2003 (for whom ideological background information could be found) were identifiably religious.<BR/><BR/>Dr. Brym also points to the tendency for suicide bombings to happen in clusters as proof that there's often a political or strategic aim behind such attacks. A classic example, he said, took place in the mid-nineties, when Palestinian militants feared a settlement between Israel and the Palestinian Authority was imminent.<BR/><BR/>But harsh repression on the part of the Israelis often reinforces extremist beliefs or leads militants to resort to even deadlier methods, Dr. Brym argues."<BR/><BR/>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071121.SUICIDE21/TPStory/InternationalAshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06232405130481114127noreply@blogger.com