tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post8302802701450430419..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: US Ally Saudi Arabia: Who Are They?Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger201125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-66845477099417904142016-04-08T13:35:38.030-04:002016-04-08T13:35:38.030-04:00Quirk, I steadfastly refuse to call you a dumb shi...Quirk, I steadfastly refuse to call you a dumb shit, though I really should.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-10992105903879153862016-04-08T10:23:38.755-04:002016-04-08T10:23:38.755-04:00.
Can it, Bob
It was your buddy who started this....<br /><br />Can it, Bob<br /><br />It was your buddy who started this whole conversation. Talk to him.<br /><br />And then do us a favor and go to the casino.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-80386991973210416312016-04-08T10:14:32.079-04:002016-04-08T10:14:32.079-04:00You just don't get it.
None of this crap star...You just don't get it.<br /><br />None of this crap started in the last century.<br /><br />It started 14 centuries ago.<br /><br />Who did this, who did that, in the last 60 years is of no significance whatsoever to the 'situation'.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-87758749408442933752016-04-08T09:42:50.659-04:002016-04-08T09:42:50.659-04:00.
Now I have argued that the Moslem Brotherhood i....<br /><br /><i>Now I have argued that the Moslem Brotherhood is the modern seed of it all.</i><br /><br />No, your not. You are arguing that the Palestinians started it all which is bullshit. All the Palis did was latch onto the MB ideology for nationalistic reasons. If you are arguing that Hamas is source for ISIS then you might as well argue that Israel is the fountainhead. In 1988, Hamas was formed in response to 20 years of Israeli occupation of the territories. Israel actually <b>encouraged</b> the rise of Hamas as a counter to the PLO and Fatah. It was only later that the decision came back to bite them in the ass.<br /><br />Your comments are absurd. They ignore both the ideological basis and the precipitating events that led to the formation of al Qaeda and the development of ISIS through al Qaeda.<br /><br />I'm sorry I can't agree. I haven't received the latest edition of <i>WiO's World Magazine</i>.<br /><br />I do agree Obama's support for the MB is evil and vile just as I think his support of EVERY player in the ME is vile and evil. It is a position I have repeated numerous time. It is the reason we shouldn't be involved with ANY of the dicks over there.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-51930614630474437282016-04-08T09:25:00.253-04:002016-04-08T09:25:00.253-04:00
Political terrorism in the modern Middle East, it...<br />Political terrorism in the modern Middle East, it began at the King David hotel.<br /><br />As for Arabfat being an Egyptian, Ted Cruz is a Canadian.<br /><br />;-)Jack Hawkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00342056653466462640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-6094137511824485832016-04-08T09:17:57.889-04:002016-04-08T09:17:57.889-04:00.
Please.
Clear thinking is anathema to you. The....<br /><br />Please.<br /><br />Clear thinking is anathema to you. The term become a bad joke when t rolls off your tongue. Take a look at your post. What has your little rant have to do with the argument WIO and I have going regarding Palestinians being the progenitors of ISIS. You are merely jumping in to something you have never even thought about before and doubling down on his error.<br /><br />Critical thinking? You make me laugh. <br /><br />Me read their book? You read their book. All you've ever read has been interpretations of their book from Jihad Watch, frontpagemag.com, or <i>American Thinker</i>.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-60700450518591412782016-04-08T08:12:35.754-04:002016-04-08T08:12:35.754-04:00But now that you admit that the moslembrotherhood ...But now that you admit that the moslembrotherhood is a evil and vile organization, you also will agree that that Obama's support of them is evil and vile.What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-10962713167005641642016-04-08T08:11:50.313-04:002016-04-08T08:11:50.313-04:00Now I have argued that the Moslem Brotherhood is t...Now I have argued that the Moslem Brotherhood is the modern seed of it all.<br /><br />But the political terrorism that ISIS does? Directly shared and inspired by the Fakisitinians. <br /><br />The PLO/Fatah/hamas is the progenitor of ISIS.<br /><br />And the Fatah and Hamas (and PLO) are now the ISIS of the west bank and gaza)<br /><br />The baseball caps have been ordered....<br /><br />Give it time..What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-89690678009597690352016-04-08T08:09:01.235-04:002016-04-08T08:09:01.235-04:00What can I say? You're comments are just inacc...What can I say? You're comments are just inaccurate. They are historically wrong. If there is any genesis involved between the two groups, ISIS and Hamas, it's the philosophical and ideological influence of the Muslim Brotherhood an organization first formed back in the 1920s, and founded by Egyptians not Palestinians. Leaders of both Hamas and al Qaeda were influenced by the MB's militant Islamist philosophy and its call to take back all Arab land and put it under Sharia law. <br /><br />Now, if you want to talk of genesis you can talk of ISIS flowing out of al Qaeda or of al Qaeda and Hamas flowing out of the MB, but ISIS flowing out the Palestinians doesn't make all that much sense. Hamas and al Queda were birthed at about the same time in the late 1980's, Hamas in Palestine and al Queda in Afghanistan. We've talked enough here about how ISIS' lineage runs right back to al Qaeda.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Quirk WHO is Yasser Arafat?<br /><br />An Egyptian.<br /><br />http://honestreporting.com/yassir-arafat-1929-2004-2/What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-60807243193830456962016-04-08T07:34:52.417-04:002016-04-08T07:34:52.417-04:00These depositions meanwhile are currently set to h...<b>These depositions meanwhile are currently set to happen this summer, right before the Democratic convention.</b><br /><br />:) <br />Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-88923826880918529952016-04-08T07:32:11.161-04:002016-04-08T07:32:11.161-04:00http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-vast-email-conspirac...http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-vast-email-conspiracy-1460069105Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-59374422692888375112016-04-08T07:30:49.200-04:002016-04-08T07:30:49.200-04:00Fueling the judges’ suspicions has been new eviden...Fueling the judges’ suspicions has been new evidence that Mrs. Clinton didn’t turn everything over. Judicial Watch recently obtained emails showing that State Department and National Security Agency personnel had big concerns with Mrs. Clinton’s early demands that she be allowed to use a BlackBerry for secure correspondence. They wanted her to sit at a computer in a secure facility—as everyone else does. These documents include a February 2009 email from then-Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills to her boss, crowing that State was coming around to Mrs. Clinton’s demands, and a return email the same day from Mrs. Clinton saying, “That’s good news.”<br /><br />These are clearly work-related emails. They speak to the question of Mrs. Clinton’s communications while at the State Department. They aren’t about yoga routines. And yet, guess what? That email chain was not included in the 55,000 pages of documents Mrs. Clinton turned over. Perhaps it was an oversight, but far more likely, the Clinton team—knowing the firestorm over a home-brew system—chose to withhold documents showing that State and NSA considered Mrs. Clinton’s email demands unsafe and unreasonable. What else did Mrs. Clinton choose to withhold from the public? <br /><br />One other aspect of these new emails: Mrs. Clinton sent her “good news” email to Ms. Mills via her private hdr22@clintonemail.com account in February 2009. And yet the former secretary of state has publicly claimed she didn’t start using that address until March 2009, well after she was sworn in as secretary of state. <br /><br />Judicial Watch is hoping to use discovery to interview eight current and former State Department officials, including Ms. Mills, Clinton aide Huma Abedin, top State Department official Patrick Kennedy, and former State IT employees Bryan Pagliano (who is reported to have recently been granted immunity by the FBI). And yet in a hearing this week in Judge Sullivan’s court, State Department officials were already moving to limit or shut down what questions Judicial Watch could ask—including those pertaining to how classified information was handled on the system.<br /><br />Put another way, State wants to put off-limits the questions that are at the heart of the Clinton email scandal. And no surprise. The Judicial Watch discovery holds the potential to expose the many and varied ways Mrs. Clinton may have skirted the rules, and in turn to put enormous pressure on the FBI to act. These depositions meanwhile are currently set to happen this summer, right before the Democratic convention. <br /><br />The beauty of FOIA is that it is designed to bring things to light. Mrs. Clinton has grown talented at outfoxing investigators, Congress, inspectors general, the press. But she made the error this time of playing games with a law that federal judges take seriously, and that gives outside watchdogs real leverage.<br />Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-14918957373891004922016-04-08T07:29:55.674-04:002016-04-08T07:29:55.674-04:00A Vast Email Conspiracy
Hillary’s biggest problem...A Vast Email Conspiracy<br /><br />Hillary’s biggest problem isn’t Bernie. It’s the Freedom of Information Act. <br /> <br />By <br />Kimberley A. Strassel <br /> <br />April 7, 2016 6:45 p.m. ET <br /> <br />Hillary Clinton is good at imagining partisan plots, and to listen to her team, no less than several inspectors general, the intelligence community, and the entire Republican ecosphere are colluding to turn her home-brew email system into a fake scandal. To this conspiracy, she must now add the federal judiciary. <br /><br />In recent weeks, not one, but two, esteemed federal judges have granted an outside group—Judicial Watch—the right to conduct discovery into the origins and handling of her private email system. It’s a reminder that Mrs. Clinton’s biggest problem this election isn’t Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump. Her problem is a 1966 statute known as the Freedom of Information Act, and the judges who enforce it. <br /><br />The judges have taken unprecedented steps to resolve this case. It is exceedingly rare—almost unheard of—for a judge to allow discovery in a FOIA proceeding. This is a testament to how grave Mrs. Clinton’s email problem is. In the usual course of things, an outside group demands documents, a judge requires a federal department to hand them over, and the public learns something.<br /><br />In this case—as we all know—the problem is that the State Department doesn’t have the documents. Or rather, it can’t confirm that it has them all, because State left it to Mrs. Clinton and her aides to possess them, and then to unilaterally decide what to hand over. To Judge Royce Lamberth, this is cut and dry “evidence of government wrong-doing and bad faith,” and the law demands a full accounting of how this situation came to be, what records exist, and where they are now. <br /><br />Speaking of the judge’s words, they too are a testament to Mrs. Clinton’s mess. Judge Lamberth was unplugged in his order, calling the former secretary of state’s email set up “extraordinary,” and slamming “constantly shifting admissions by the government and former government officials” about the setup. Judge Emmet Sullivan, the first to allow discovery, referred in his own hearing to Mrs. Clinton’s “totally atypical system” and noted that it “boggles the mind that the State Department allowed this circumstance to arise in the first place. It’s just very, very, very troubling.” <br /><br />Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-8793051086676178162016-04-08T04:52:12.450-04:002016-04-08T04:52:12.450-04:00galopin2, at least, has better sense than to see a...galopin2, at least, has better sense than to see all of Clan Rufus giving 52% of their hard earned money away to an old demented commie.<br /><br />He chooses to have them give it away piecemeal by voting for The Hag, instead.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-19469860928086729302016-04-08T04:35:40.075-04:002016-04-08T04:35:40.075-04:00BY THE WAY, IT WAS AN ISRAELI HIGH TECH COMPANY TH...<b>BY THE WAY, IT WAS AN ISRAELI HIGH TECH COMPANY THAT BROKE THE SAN BERNARDINO JIHADI TERRORIST PHONE OPEN FOR THE FBI.</b>Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-49247829810331016002016-04-08T04:32:22.211-04:002016-04-08T04:32:22.211-04:00Yup, Bernie's crazy as hell. On domestic polit...Yup, <b>Bernie's crazy as hell.</b> On domestic politics, and foreign policy as well.<br /><br /><b>TOTALLY BONKERS</b><br /><br />Disarm, 52% starting tax rate, (Deuce will pay more)....<br /><br />We would be as functional as Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Cuba....<br /><br />If you want destitution, and to wipe your ass without toilet paper, vote for Bernie.<br /><br /><b>Bernie is crazy as hell.</b><br /><br />Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12346222385713856502016-04-08T04:01:41.821-04:002016-04-08T04:01:41.821-04:00Trump is refreshing in comparison.
I doubt we'...Trump is refreshing in comparison.<br /><br />I doubt we'll see The Donald riding a subway.<br /><br />Can you think of any other super rich American politician that has shown zero guilt over being super rich ?<br /><br />He flaunts it.<br /><br />"I'm really really really rich"<br /><br />It's refreshing.<br /><br />If you got it, flaunt it, as someone here said once upon a time.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-47028661922138781942016-04-08T03:56:27.106-04:002016-04-08T03:56:27.106-04:00Then Hillary climbed aboard a subway train, an ide...Then Hillary climbed aboard a subway train, an idea that took root when Hillary's Brooklyn-born opponent, Bernie Sanders, mentioned that all one needs to ride the subway is a token. In response, Mrs. Clinton did not want to squander an opportunity to prove that she, not Bernie, is the consummate New Yorker.<br /><br />Moving forward in her relentless five-decade schlep toward the White House, shadowed closely by the press, the Secret Service, and a bewildered person carrying a Hillary sign, Mrs. Clinton valiantly set her sights on the subterranean Petri dish.<br /><br />After numerous failed swipes with a Metro card, Hillary shimmied through the turnstile and then miraculously materialized on the No. 4 platform. From there, the woman in the $1,500 pantsuit boarded the train and pretended to enjoy riding it from 161st Street, Yankee Stadium, all the way uptown to 170th Street, where she disembarked and headed to the Bronx diner Munch Time.<br /><br />Munch Time was a perfect spot for down and dirty Hillary to drink tea and be interviewed after her subway ride, because the diner is renowned for a famous girl fight that took place there a few years back.<br /><br />Nonetheless, it's likely that Hillary, who admitted that she's been chauffeured around since 1996, headed to the Bronx after spending the night in Chelsea's $10-million Madison Avenue apartment. That's why this New Yorker can only hope that while mingling in with the commoners, the former senator was treated to the full flavor of the subway, where pizza rats scurry about, shoes stick to chewed up bubble gum, and the odor of urine indelibly soaks the concrete.<br /><br />Either way, it's quite clear that Hillary Clinton endured the slimy underground experience because in Clinton's economy, every vote counts.<br /><br />Let's face it: Hillary is a vote vampire. The former first lady stays up nights thinking up ways to suck votes out of poor people, minorities, felons, illegal immigrants, the LGBT community, union employees, and pro-choice women.<br /><br />So why not attempt to add Bronx commuters to that mix?<br /><br />Knowing Hillary, she counted the cost and figured she could attract new followers by volunteering to immerse herself in a sweaty pool of culturally diverse body odor. Why not share a seat with a couple of man-spreaders and pretend to enjoy hugging a bacteria-coated subway pole?<br /><br />Based on Hillary Clinton's history of calculated political moves, what's more likely is that the presidential hopeful figured that if she sacrificed her dignity for a station or two and just let herself be groped between 161st and 170th Streets, she could pull way ahead of Bernie on primary day.<br /> http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/04/straphanger_hillary_sinks_to_new_lows.html#ixzz45Df81hQm <br /><br />Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-77348695177602140932016-04-08T03:55:04.078-04:002016-04-08T03:55:04.078-04:00April 8, 2016
Straphanger Hillary sinks to new lo...April 8, 2016<br /><br />Straphanger Hillary sinks to new lows<br /><br />By Jeannie DeAngelis<br /><br /><br />Hillary Clinton is the woman who, in her quest for planetary supremacy, once dredged up an old Yankee baseball cap, stuffed it into a carpetbag, and moved to New York. Now, in an effort to exploit that blue state once again, Hillary took sucking up to a whole new level when she boarded a subway outside Yankee Stadium.<br /><br />It was on the 4 train that Mrs. Clinton found herself sandwiched among the unwashed masses. What did she do? Hold her breath, close her eyes, picture the White House, and use that iconic image to help her endure a trip through a dark tunnel to an uptown Bronx diner?<br /><br />After living in Illinois, Massachusetts, and Connecticut, making a name for herself in Arkansas, and spending a lot of time knocking around Washington, D.C., Hillary must have thought strap-hanging was an ingenious way to re-establish her standing as a real New Yorker.<br /><br />That's why, with the April 19 New York primary looming, rather than spend the morning cuddling with her 1-year-old granddaughter, Charlotte Mezvinsky, the candidate from Chappaqua frivolously wasted precious time politicking with Bronx borough president Ruben Diaz, Jr.<br /><br />Hillary and Ruben made an appearance outside Yankee Stadium, where the former first lady/senator/secretary of state told people who plan to vote for her anyway that she was "so proud to have represented this state." <br /><br />The brown-nosing politician also praised "New York values [and] the people of New York."<br /><br />Hillary told those gathered before her that "there is no place like [New York] in the world, and [that she's] going to take [her New York] experiences ... to the White House."<br /><br />Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-59087496486978670232016-04-08T03:46:19.415-04:002016-04-08T03:46:19.415-04:00Last sentence is amended to:
The Hag should be in...Last sentence is amended to:<br /><br />The Hag should be in prison, and Bernie should be in a secured rest home.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-80005523382491903332016-04-08T03:43:35.151-04:002016-04-08T03:43:35.151-04:00Just for Quirk -
Revive Clear Thinking And The Ji...Just for Quirk -<br /><br /><b>Revive Clear Thinking And The Jihad Dies<br /><br />http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/raymond-ibrahim-revive-clear-thinking-and-the-jihad-dies</b><br /><br />Try clear thinking, and don't be so emotional and sappy and confused. <br /><br />Reject your inner Pope Francis. <br /><br />Return to the root.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12901442583221792562016-04-08T03:30:02.879-04:002016-04-08T03:30:02.879-04:00a Pakistani thinker and philosopher
You got to be...<b>a Pakistani thinker and philosopher</b><br /><br />You got to be joshing, Quirk.<br /><br />And as for your 'point', they are all the same. 'Birds of a feather flock togehter'.<br /><br />They ALL want to drive the Israelis into the Mediterranean Sea, wish to kill YOU Quirk, or put you in slavery and make you pay the tax, and eventually control the entire earth.<br /><br />"First we show the Poles, then everybody else."<br /><br />(That means YOU, Quirk)<br /><br />Hey, read their Book, and you will see.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-74669332726846798842016-04-08T03:15:54.833-04:002016-04-08T03:15:54.833-04:00Our two 'Politicians of he People', Bernie...Our two 'Politicians of he People', Bernie, and The Hag, don't do subways.<br /><br />Hillary just could NOT make her swipe card work, try as she might, and Bernie, who is soooooo yesterday, thought they still took 'token's.<br /><br />They should both be in rest homes.Idaho Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-73472024653935527772016-04-08T03:02:36.542-04:002016-04-08T03:02:36.542-04:00.
By 1973, the MB had pretty much stopped militar....<br /><br />By 1973, the MB had pretty much stopped military action in pursuit of their aims. The formation of Hamas right after the start of the First Intifada in the late 1980's allowed the Palestinian MB to keep its hand in the game while still publicly disavowing militancy. At around the same time, Russia decided to withdraw from Afghanistan and OBL decided to form al Qaeda, with its leadership made up of a rich Saudi, an Egyptian militant, and a Pakistani thinker and philosopher. By now all three had broken with the MB because of its public disavowal of militant jihad.<br /><br />Hamas' position was based primarily on nationalistic aims, to drive Israel out of the land that was previously the Palestinian Mandate. Al Qaeda on the other hand had much broader goals. While they also wanted to drive the Jews out of Israel, they also wanted to carry the jihad to Kashmir, and even Arab and African countries where they felt Sharia law wasn't being fully implemented.<br /><br />So while Hamas might be a primarily Palestinian organization, al Qaeda (and eventually ISIS)didn't flow out of it.<br /><br />. Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-13661711510177634172016-04-08T02:29:38.989-04:002016-04-08T02:29:38.989-04:00.
Look, WiO, this is what we are arguing about.......<br /><br />Look, WiO, this is what we are arguing about...<br /><br /><i>The Fakistinians are the genesis of the ISIS sunni movement in the world.</i> <br /><br />The comment is not true. I assumed it was just another of the ISIS-Hamas memes you are wont to put up here which are equally untrue. Thus my rather snarky comment. I assumed when it was pointed out that yours was a poor word choice you would simply put up something like this...<br /><br /><i>But if you alluding to my belief that the Fakistinians are the genesis of the Sunni ISIS? It's not a literally interpretation but rather the way the Sunni's murder, stab, blow up, and rampage.</i><br /><br />which you did. Had you left it at that my argument with you would have been over. But you didn't. Instead, you doubled down and followed that statement with this...<br /><br /><i>And with that I am convinced regardless of your differences with my opinion, that ISIS and Fatah/Hamas are 2 leaves from the same tree and the Fatah/Hamas cult of death gave rise to ISIS and their behaviors.</i><br /><br />and then followed it up with this again...<br /><br /><i>But if you alluding to my belief that the Fakistinians are the genesis of the Sunni ISIS<br /><br />Yep that's accurate.</i><br /><br /><br />What can I say? You're comments are just inaccurate. They are historically wrong. If there is any genesis involved between the two groups, ISIS and Hamas, it's the philosophical and ideological influence of the Muslim Brotherhood an organization first formed back in the 1920s, and founded by Egyptians not Palestinians. Leaders of both Hamas and al Qaeda were influenced by the MB's militant Islamist philosophy and its call to take back all Arab land and put it under Sharia law. <br /><br />Now, if you want to talk of genesis you can talk of ISIS flowing out of al Qaeda or of al Qaeda and Hamas flowing out of the MB, but ISIS flowing out the Palestinians doesn't make all that much sense. Hamas and al Queda were birthed at about the same time in the late 1980's, Hamas in Palestine and al Queda in Afghanistan. We've talked enough here about how ISIS' lineage runs right back to al Qaeda.<br /><br />. Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.com