tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post6934401079024196741..comments2024-03-29T05:30:32.626-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: For those of you who mostly enjoy the Elephant BarDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-57302944335535088102013-01-15T03:21:26.930-05:002013-01-15T03:21:26.930-05:00But, no, I won't mock if you believe in God.
...<i>But, no, I won't mock if you believe in God.</i><br /><br />Ash shows here something never shown by Rufus.<br /><br />And does as well at -<br /><br /><i>AshMon Jan 14, 05:12:00 PM EST</i><br /><br />Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-73475318676281218612013-01-14T18:07:55.527-05:002013-01-14T18:07:55.527-05:00Yeah, idle chatter, and I am interested in the eva...Yeah, idle chatter, and I am interested in the evangelical approach to the internet - conversion through the intertubes.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-72568347563795042402013-01-14T18:07:03.125-05:002013-01-14T18:07:03.125-05:00I have to get back to the family now, but I'll...I have to get back to the family now, but I'll be around.Dougmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468871451814828157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-30398847231332583092013-01-14T17:57:46.539-05:002013-01-14T17:57:46.539-05:00.
Gee, commendable Ash.
So, what you were doing ....<br /><br />Gee, commendable Ash.<br /><br />So, what you were doing was just making idle chatter with the Dougman then.<br /><br />I see. Thanks for the clarification.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-38007952077536010782013-01-14T17:14:14.805-05:002013-01-14T17:14:14.805-05:00So, ya, I might mock if you should argue a point b...So, ya, I might mock if you should argue a point because "The Bible said so" or "It's in the Koran" therefore...<br /><br />But, no, I won't mock if you believe in God.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-23897322993477170442013-01-14T17:12:19.636-05:002013-01-14T17:12:19.636-05:00Still bristling at that PC tag are ya Quirkster? ;...Still bristling at that PC tag are ya Quirkster? ;)<br /><br /> Mock the religious, naw, loads of people believe but sometimes, when the religious use their religion to back up argument, well, then sometimes mocking happens. Have you ever tried to have a discussion with a pious Muslim? I have many years ago. How about a a born again Christian? I got them in my family. Anyway I try to respect the religious. In a religious studies course I had a Prof (I think he was even a Divinity professor) teach about the noumenal experience. Powerful stuff if you've been one with God, had a "Primordial Noumenal Experience" was how he referred to it. I read that those tripping on Acid can sometimes also have a similar type experience. I don't place alot of faith in those good books being the word of God though. Lots can be learned from them though.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-86997172670974963722013-01-14T16:58:48.155-05:002013-01-14T16:58:48.155-05:00.
Forget it, Dougman.
Ash is our resident Free T....<br /><br />Forget it, Dougman.<br /><br />Ash is our resident Free Thinker. In Tater-World, any mention of religion is considered a challenge and a fit subject for mockery.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42361944683739809772013-01-14T16:04:00.786-05:002013-01-14T16:04:00.786-05:00Yes "politely" threaten people...
"...Yes "politely" threaten people...<br /><br />"politely" lie...<br /><br />"politely" intimidate...<br /><br />Yes by all means, the well mannered criminal, murderer, kidnapper is always appreciated...<br /><br />Do not ever respond to threats, extortion and lies with "vulgarity"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-77158286848494628542013-01-14T16:00:18.964-05:002013-01-14T16:00:18.964-05:00Bill Whittle may have witnessed some of the path I...Bill Whittle may have witnessed some of the path I followed, but I can't speak for him.Dougmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468871451814828157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-52846382026189162562013-01-14T15:37:48.560-05:002013-01-14T15:37:48.560-05:00An interesting teaser there Dougman - "Workin...An interesting teaser there Dougman - "Working the net for Christ"Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-40281001139969442232013-01-14T15:31:43.474-05:002013-01-14T15:31:43.474-05:00Truth is my God Ash. And suffering for the Truth p...Truth is my God Ash. And suffering for the Truth puts me in the larger "Body of Christ." <br />And there is so much I could relate to you if I had the time, resources and links to my past on the internt.<br />Working the net for Christ. A journey I would not have taken had I known the cost.Dougmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468871451814828157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-26649857448868974022013-01-14T15:22:21.401-05:002013-01-14T15:22:21.401-05:00ah, the good ole noumenal experience.ah, the good ole noumenal experience.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-77410382494568464482013-01-14T15:13:22.341-05:002013-01-14T15:13:22.341-05:00Just for the record, I've never felt, or inten...Just for the record, I've never felt, or intended to insult anyone here.<br />Way back when I said I wouldn't return, well,,that was my way of "shaking off the dust" of unbelief.<br />Not because I have a thin skin, as it may have appeared.<br /><br />When you think of me. Know that I am a believer of Christ. Not because of indoctrination, but from firsthand experience.<br />Dougmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468871451814828157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-18944912384780947622013-01-14T14:12:45.873-05:002013-01-14T14:12:45.873-05:00.
Last spring, Pershing Square sold its entire st....<br /><br /><i>Last spring, Pershing Square sold its entire stake in Citigroup, as the bank’s strategy drifted, at a loss approaching $400 million. Ackman says, “For the first seven years of Pershing Square, I believed that an investor couldn’t invest in a giant bank. Then I felt I could invest in a bank, and I did—and I lost a lot of money doing it.”<br /><br />A crisis of trust among investors is insidious. It is far less obvious than a sudden panic, but over time, its damage compounds. It is not a tsunami; it is dry rot. It creeps in, noticed occasionally and then forgotten. Soon it is a daily fact of life. Even as the economy begins to come back, the trust crisis saps the recovery’s strength. Banks can’t attract capital. They lose customers, who fear being tricked and cheated. Their executives are, by turns, traumatized and enervated. Lacking confidence in themselves as they grapple with the toxic legacies of their previous excesses and mistakes, they don’t lend as much as they should. Without trust in banks, the economy wheezes and stutters.<br /><br />And, of course, as trust diminishes, the likelihood of another crisis grows larger. The next big storm might blow the weakened house down. Elite investors—those who move markets and control the flow of money—will flee, out of worry that the roof will collapse. The less they trust the banks, the faster and more decisively they will beat that path—disinvesting, freezing bank credit, and weakening the structure even more. In this way, fear becomes reality, and troubles that might once have been weathered become existential.</i><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/01/whats-inside-americas-banks/309196/" rel="nofollow">Value at Risk</a><br /><br /><br />Unfortunately, another long article, this time from the <i>Atlantic</i> pointing out the massive problems we have with our banks including the lying, corruption, and lack of transparancy.<br /><br />.<br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-38761338812066830452013-01-14T13:42:11.777-05:002013-01-14T13:42:11.777-05:00.
ah, fuck, don't bow to the PC mindset of Qu....<br /><br /><i>ah, fuck, don't bow to the PC mindset of Quirk!</i><br /><br />You might be right, Ash. I wrote that post before I had any coffee this morning. After reading your post below and Mel's and reflecting on it perhaps my suggestion was a little PC.<br /><br />But then I am a compassionate guy. Which is easier on a guy, going through two or three days of being chastized by a bunch of people who have done much the same things themselves at one time or another or voluntarily walking away for a time when asked? I don't know. I know I would rather walk away (although probably permanantly) than put up with the hypocrisy.<br /><br />We go through this same routine with someone about every six months? In the end, nothing changes, a fact that I am personally comfortable with. It's just the obligatory soul searching, accusing and defending, the voting that is truly annoying.<br /><br />Before it all blows over, we waste two or three days consoling the injured and castigating the perpetrator for breaking the rules that do not exist, rules of common courtesy that should be obvious but obviously aren't. I was merely offering a way to end the kabuki and the waste of those two to three days.<br /><br />These continuous votes on 'the rules', who is in and who is out, have become tiresome. I'm sure I will be saying the same thing in another six months.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-74048996541742417302013-01-14T12:20:38.702-05:002013-01-14T12:20:38.702-05:00How Did The United States Get In The Position Of S...<br /><a href="http://manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2012/12/18/how-did-the-united-states-get-in-the-position-of-supporting-the-deadbeats-in-argentina" rel="nofollow"> How Did The United States Get In The Position Of Supporting The Deadbeats In Argentina? </a><br /><br />The era of good economic policy in the United States is not of course the recent era of fancy Ph.D.s from Ivy League schools at Treasury and the Fed. Rather, it is the founding era. The prime motivation for the founding was that the government under the Articles of Confederacy had no taxing power and couldn't pay the Revolutionary War debt. The founders recognized that they needed a government that could pay its debts and establish its credit.<br /><br />Literally the first thing that the government of the new United States did on the founding was to create a plan for paying off the Revolutionary War debt at full value. One of the best accounts I have read is in the Ron Chernow biography of Hamilton. Significantly, much of the debt had been bought up at steep discounts after being in default for long periods. But Washington and Hamilton recognized that the way to establish the credit of the new country and make it a player on the world stage was to pay off the debt at par. Clearly this is not the only reason that the United States took off as an economic power, but it is one of the top few reasons. The United States had top international credit from the time of the founding through the Obama administration, when it received its first downgrade.<br /><br /><br />Now shift to today's Argentina. The list of destructive economic policies is long. Here is an article from the Wall Street Journal on August 8 with a good summary: crony capitalism on steroids; subsidies for everything; currency controls with special exchange rates for friends of the government; expropriation of the big Spanish oil company YPF; raging inflation; tariffs that make most manufacturing impossible; and so on. But high on anyone's list must be the fact that in 2001 Argentina repudiated some $80 billion of bonds that it had issued in the 1990s.<br />Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-20524790208086905552013-01-14T11:58:55.566-05:002013-01-14T11:58:55.566-05:00Good move, Deuce. Leave as is. People usually ge...Good move, Deuce. Leave as is. People usually get back equal to what they give. As Ash has often said, it's a rough and tumble place. If you are going to be here, you had better grow some skin. Thanks for all that you do for us.MOMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307879234693014691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-65287879532839333452013-01-14T11:31:52.088-05:002013-01-14T11:31:52.088-05:00Right then. We leave it alone with one modificatio...Right then. We leave it alone with one modification when I have the time.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1232818506049339052013-01-14T11:21:09.775-05:002013-01-14T11:21:09.775-05:00Now, on to more interesting stuff:
Something I am...Now, on to more interesting stuff:<br /><br />Something I am puzzled about - this debt ceiling. All this hand wringing about upping the debt ceiling has led me to wonder where the heck it came from, this ceiling. It seems it was established in Second Liberty Bond Act of 1917 yet the 14th amendment of the oh so hallowed Constitution says the US shall not renege on its debts. Wouldn't that make the debt ceiling unconstitutional? I'm guessing that will be Obama's end game if the ceiling isn't raised.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-92204700296968119112013-01-14T11:18:16.532-05:002013-01-14T11:18:16.532-05:00Just be polite, not so damn vulgar.
I know it'...Just be polite, not so damn vulgar.<br /><br />I know it's not easy, but then ...<br /><br />If it was easy anyone could do itdesert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-51985419183010274212013-01-14T11:15:11.587-05:002013-01-14T11:15:11.587-05:00"A chance"
...and "Racecars""A chance"<br /><br />...and "Racecars"Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-55436560361017587112013-01-14T11:14:11.228-05:002013-01-14T11:14:11.228-05:00Leave it as is.
I don't comment here and I ...Leave it as is. <br /><br />I don't comment here and I very rarely read it anymore, but I do like to stop in every once in a while to say howdy. <br /><br />Obviously, you're all about politics and constitutional rights, and God forbid we should take away your guns but it's okay to take away someone's freedom of speech, whether or not it's appropriate. I'm not defending that some things said here aren't rude and inappropriate and the first time someone is told to knock it off that person should be grown up enough to stop, but if you revised your blog wouldn't that be going against everything you stand for. <br /><br />There was a time when I would have agreed to have done something about the situation but for the most part its back to its original boring blog of politics. <br /><br />I would never agree to such an arrangement as to being put on time out for something I said. I may respect my elders but I don't take orders them. I am mature enough to leave when I am not wanted, and would hope that everyone else here is too. <br /><br />I would never read a blog and not be able to comment. That would defeating the purpose of having a blog. <br /><br />MeLoDyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04658982778792168451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-5082147286161591722013-01-14T11:13:57.835-05:002013-01-14T11:13:57.835-05:00If Republican "Leadership" had any brain...If Republican "Leadership" had any brains, they would have listened to folks like my Stern list above and utilized people like Carolla, Miller, and Breitbart to give the GOP chance in the popular "culture."Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-31753441785430397362013-01-14T11:09:00.573-05:002013-01-14T11:09:00.573-05:00Cool!
I did miss it.
May you become as successfu...Cool!<br /><br />I did miss it.<br /><br />May you become as successful as Carolla is with the two studios he built, the growing number of employees he pays, and his growing stable of Paul Neuman racecares.<br /><br />The latest being the greatest.<br /><br />...all since becoming a Pirate following his dismissal from Radio and TV mediums despite the great success he had there.<br /><br />Stern, Leno, Kimmel and many others will vouche for that.<br />...now to include O'Reilly and Prager!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-68890934938815878672013-01-14T10:59:41.038-05:002013-01-14T10:59:41.038-05:00ah, fuck, don't bow to the PC mindset of Quirk...ah, fuck, don't bow to the PC mindset of Quirk!Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.com