tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post6137153429356118940..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: The Guardian and Greenwald deserve the Pulitzer Prize for journalism. Manning and Snowden deserve the Freedom Medal. Some stories are more than stories…they can become vehicles for social change. For a decade we’ve been in a surreal limbo with a soundtrack that sounds like extra-judicial mumbling. The NSA and their master manipulators in DC are the problem.Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger126125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-90020643745521222282013-08-01T12:05:37.922-04:002013-08-01T12:05:37.922-04:00...ibid...
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...ibid...<br /><br />:-)<br />allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15605114251615293411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-6961324520104812282013-08-01T02:04:13.048-04:002013-08-01T02:04:13.048-04:00And by the way, it wasn't WiO who talked me in...And by the way, it wasn't WiO who talked me into joining AIPAC. He never ever mentioned it to me. It was rather Deuce and rat with their continual daily attacks on Israel the prompted me to join AIPAC. It is to be expected of rat, because he is truly nasty, and really not very bright. But Deuce is usually a Gentleman, and is very bright and accomplished, so it has been something of a surprise to me to hear some of the things he has said recently about Israel. I do not know what to make of it. So much of what he says about Israel is simply preposterous.<br /><br />So I decided to join AIPAC to show a little solidarity with those arch- enemies of Deuce and rat, the Israelis.<br /><br />WiO had nothing to do with it.<br /><br />out for the nightBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-56035223228096820382013-08-01T01:34:03.810-04:002013-08-01T01:34:03.810-04:00"Why don't you take a hike, Rat?"
W..."Why don't you take a hike, Rat?"<br /><br />WhitBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-7260091939624951552013-08-01T01:30:47.205-04:002013-08-01T01:30:47.205-04:00"There is something really wrong with you, Ra..."There is something really wrong with you, Rat."<br /><br />TrishBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-963752608429793242013-08-01T01:27:46.357-04:002013-08-01T01:27:46.357-04:00Poor rat is having another bad day. Sometimes I al...Poor rat is having another bad day. Sometimes I almost feel sorry for him, he struggles so, but only briefly, and it passes.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-75478944567328016682013-08-01T01:22:16.395-04:002013-08-01T01:22:16.395-04:00When did I say the Israeli claim was Biblical? Fac...When did I say the Israeli claim was Biblical? Fact is I didn't. That's not the sort of language I would use. Quit pulling turds out of your ass, as usual. It gets disgusting after years of it. It is historical, partly from the deeper past and partly from the 20th Century and all that happened then. It is also cultural. Which is the real reason I like the Israelis. They have done one hell of a lot with nothing. I celebrate that.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-23475788323552717592013-08-01T00:03:39.631-04:002013-08-01T00:03:39.631-04:00If you were a citizen you'd recognize this did...If you were a citizen you'd recognize this diddy...<br /><br /><br />"My Country, 'Tis of Thee", also known as "America", is an American patriotic song, whose lyrics were written by Samuel Francis Smith. <br /><br />My country, 'tis of thee,<br />Sweet land of liberty,<br />Of thee I sing;<br />Land where my fathers died,<br />Land of the pilgrims' pride,<br />From ev'ry mountainside<br />Let freedom ring!<br />2<br />My native country, thee,<br />Land of the noble free,<br />Thy name I love;<br />I love thy rocks and rills,<br />Thy woods and templed hills;<br />My heart with rapture thrills,<br />Like that above.<br />3<br />Let music swell the breeze,<br />And ring from all the trees<br />Sweet freedom's song;<br />Let mortal tongues awake;<br />Let all that breathe partake;<br />Let rocks their silence break,<br />The sound prolong.<br />4<br />Our fathers' God to Thee,<br />Author of liberty,<br />To Thee we sing.<br />Long may our land be bright,<br />With freedom's holy light,<br />Protect us by Thy might,<br />Great God our King.<br />Additional verse to celebrate Washington's Centennial [4]<br />5<br />Our joyful hearts today,<br />Their grateful tribute pay,<br />Happy and free,<br />After our toils and fears,<br />After our blood and tears,<br />Strong with our hundred years,<br />O God, to Thee.<br />Additional verses by Henry van Dyke<br />6<br />We love thine inland seas,<br />Thy groves and giant trees,<br />Thy rolling plains;<br />Thy rivers' mighty sweep,<br />Thy mystic canyons deep,<br />Thy mountains wild and steep,--<br />All thy domains.<br />7<br />Thy silver Eastern strands,<br />Thy Golden Gate that stands<br />Fronting the West;<br />Thy flowery Southland fair,<br />Thy North's sweet, crystal air:<br />O Land beyond compare,<br />We love thee best!<br />Additional Abolitionist verses, 1843, A. G. Duncan [5]<br />8<br />My country, 'tis of thee,<br />Stronghold of slavery, of thee I sing;<br />Land where my fathers died,<br />Where men man’s rights deride,<br />From every mountainside thy deeds shall ring!<br />9<br />My native country, thee,<br />Where all men are born free, if white’s their skin;<br />I love thy hills and dales,<br />Thy mounts and pleasant vales;<br />But hate thy negro sales, as foulest sin.<br />10<br />Let wailing swell the breeze,<br />And ring from all the trees the black man’s wrong;<br />Let every tongue awake;<br />Let bond and free partake;<br />Let rocks their silence break, the sound prolong.<br />11<br />Our father’s God! to thee,<br />Author of Liberty, to thee we sing;<br />Soon may our land be bright,<br />With holy freedom’s right,<br />Protect us by thy might, Great God, our King.<br />12<br />It comes, the joyful day,<br />When tyranny’s proud sway, stern as the grave,<br />Shall to the ground be hurl’d,<br />And freedom’s flag, unfurl’d,<br />Shall wave throughout the world, O’er every slave.<br />13<br />Trump of glad jubilee!<br />Echo o’er land and sea freedom for all.<br />Let the glad tidings fly,<br />And every tribe reply,<br />“Glory to God on high,” at Slavery’s fall.<br /><br /><br />Your "views" on what constitute's a country? Is about as solid as jello...What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-34482981207099281462013-08-01T00:01:01.857-04:002013-08-01T00:01:01.857-04:00You are so full of shit it's entertaining.You are so full of shit it's entertaining.What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-62063884399955502622013-07-31T23:57:16.545-04:002013-07-31T23:57:16.545-04:00Voters also appreciate a redemption story that the...<i>Voters also appreciate a redemption story that they're familiar with. It's easier to accept Spitzer's flaws than to research his opponent's indiscretions or wait for them to appear after that person is elected.<br /><br />...<br /><br />Weiner and Spitzer betrayed the public's trust when they were in power. Weiner continues to betray such trust, launching his latest campaign knowing that he continued his electronic sexual liasions long after he resigned from office.<br />Isn't it time we give other fresh candidates a try? After all, we won't know what they can accomplish until we do.</i>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12643264270796401952013-07-31T23:52:22.678-04:002013-07-31T23:52:22.678-04:00America is also the country where Canada is.
Ameri...America is also the country where Canada is.<br />America is also the country where Mexico is.<br /><br />Palestine is the country where the state of Israel is.<br />Palestine is the country where the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan is.<br />Palestine is the country where the state of Israel has taken and annexed land in violation of Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-68477623574782456572013-07-31T23:44:10.323-04:002013-07-31T23:44:10.323-04:00Your understanding of the word country, quot is qu...Your understanding of the word country, quot is quite colloquial.<br />A country is not a political entity, it is a piece of ground. A geographic area.<br /><br /><i><br /><br /> <br />Country - Definition<br /><b>Tract of land inhabited by people of one or several nations.</b><br />Whereas the term 'country' emphasizes the physical dimensions and boundaries of a geographical area, 'nation' emphasizes a particular community of people with shared history and culture, and 'state' a self-governing legal and political entity.</i><br />Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/country.html#ixzz2agXDBsp6<br /><br /><br />A country does apply to a single political entity. It is a geographic area.<br />It does not apply to any political entity, except colloquially.<br /><br />Like AMERICA.<br /><br />There is no political entity called AMERICA.<br /><br />AMERICA has no government, no President, it never has had. AMERICA is a geographic area in the Western Hemisphere.<br />As Palestine is a geographic are in Arabia.<br /><br />Now, the was once a Land of Israel, but ...<br />When I would refer to Israel you and the AIPAC crowd objected.<br />I was told it was the "state of Israel" and should be referred to as such.<br /><br />I try to comply.<br /><br />Now, pay attention, the state of Israel was recognized by the United States of America as being in a portion of Palestine. Palestine is the country where the state of Israel is. Like America is the country where the United States is. <br /><br />So, it makes little difference when the first reference to Palestine was made.<br />The only reference that matters is that made by President Truman, when he recognized the state of Israel as being in a portion of Palestine.<br /><br />If there is no country of Palestine, there is no state of Israel, as recognized by the United States.<br />If the United States of America had not recognized the state of Israel in a portion of Palestine, neither would I. But the United States did recognize the state of Israel, in a portion of Palestine, you demanded that we call the polity the "state of Israel", which means it is not the Land of Israel, but a state, in a portion of Palestine.<br /><br />Hope you can get up to speed with your English<br />Happy to help in that effort.<br /><br />;-)<br /><br />desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-47073739230606806032013-07-31T23:41:06.368-04:002013-07-31T23:41:06.368-04:00.
Translation: Its official. The Johnson admini....<br /><br />Translation: Its official. The Johnson administration said it was an accident and you know your government wouldn't lie to you.<br /><br />As a matter of fact, I believe I was once called un-American for arguing such a thing.<br /><br />Good to see you popping in now and then, Allen.<br /><br />(Even though you are still flogging that dead horse)<br /><br />:)<br /><br /><br />Hang in there though, you'll soon have us all joining AIPAC. You've probably heard, WiO already has convinced Bob to join (although as far as I know he hasn't received his initial welcoming package yet).<br /><br />.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-58614301865359623042013-07-31T23:29:28.644-04:002013-07-31T23:29:28.644-04:00.
You know Assad must be doing pretty good in Syr....<br /><br />You know Assad must be doing pretty good in Syria.<br /><br />Syrian rebel fatwa bans croissants as a symbol of Western colonial oppression .<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-26188433243386806092013-07-31T23:19:36.725-04:002013-07-31T23:19:36.725-04:00Re: Liberty
anecdotal agitprop...not a single sou...Re: Liberty<br /><br />anecdotal agitprop...not a single source, attribution, or link (not even Wiki!)...five inmates making the same silly statements year-in, year-out...<br /><br />Every official investigation has yielded the same finding. Live with it. <br /><br />Try something new, say, today's story about a Secret Service agent's accident discharge that hit Kennedy in the back of the head. No Jews were involved, but juicy, comedic paranoia doesn't require Jewish participation. allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15605114251615293411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-58858378914136709252013-07-31T23:15:31.014-04:002013-07-31T23:15:31.014-04:00.
Ron Paul is soundly defeated in his attempt to ....<br /><br />Ron Paul is soundly defeated in his attempt to cut off aid to Egypt.<br /><br />John McCain was the leading force opposing him.<br /><br />This is interesting. In a debate over a bill to cut off aid to Egypt, the other GOP douche bag, Linny Graham, <i>read aloud a letter from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee opposing Paul’s amendment.</i><br /><br />Then the MSM offered their opinion of Paul,<br /><br /><i>Paul responded to all this with rambling speeches and wild gestures, refusing to yield when colleagues asked him to and accusing his opponents of “empty thoughts and empty promises.” He called the AIPAC letter “a canard” and he wandered into an account of a Paris shopping spree by the wife of Mobutu Sese Seko, the late Congolese dictator.<br /><br />McCain needled Paul. “The question here is whether the senator from Kentucky knows what’s better for Israel, or Israel.” <br /><br />Paul shook his head, reclaimed the floor and challenged the “so-called leadership” of AIPAC. <br /><br />When the clerk called the roll, McCain whipped his colleagues aggressively: arguing with Dean Heller (R-Nev.) after the new senator took Paul’s side, applauding when John Hoeven (R-N.D.) voted against Paul and working over Tim Scott (R-S.C.) until the senator cried uncle. “I’m with you,” Scott said.<br /><br />For the Republican internationalists, this wasn’t about winning but dominating.</i><br /><br /><br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-rand-paul-rebuked-by-fellow-republicans-on-foreign-aid/2013/07/31/8b2ec348-fa24-11e2-9bde-7ddaa186b751_story.html?hpid=z2<br /><br />Well, we know at least two people AIPAC has in its pocket.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-37507747165931814762013-07-31T22:46:37.323-04:002013-07-31T22:46:37.323-04:00Even less that he is the same person on the DoJ li...Even less that he is the same person on the DoJ list of "suspects".desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-22279045097160494592013-07-31T22:45:25.713-04:002013-07-31T22:45:25.713-04:00CNN has so little confidence in the story they hav...CNN has so little confidence in the story they have not written it.<br /><br />Like John McCain in Syria, the CNN folks talked with "someone", no guarantee he was who he said he was.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-34339912628993012302013-07-31T22:41:49.297-04:002013-07-31T22:41:49.297-04:00Yeah, well it is entertaining watching you twist i...Yeah, well it is entertaining watching you twist in the wind.<br /><br />When it comes to posting content without real coherence or meaning, I leave that crown to you.<br /><br />We should anyone consider Israel to be a "Western" nation?<br /><br />It is not in the West, it is in the Middle East.<br />The Judaic religion was not formulated in the West, it is not "Western" it is Middle Eastern.<br /><br />The current cultural center of Judaism is not in the West, it is in the Middle East.<br />The majority of the immigrants are not Western, but came from Arabic nations in the period immediately after 1948, as you have told us, often.<br />The majority of the Europeon immigrants are not Western, but Eastern Europeon.<br /><br />Why should Israel be counted amongst Western nations?<br /><br />Even boobie compares it to India, which is Southwestern Asian.<br /><br />Tell us why you think that Israel should be compared to Western nations.<br />Then tell us why it should be compared favorably, that'd be even more entertaining.<br /><br />I can enumerate why Israel and North Korea are soul mates.<br />Why can you not follow suit?<br /><br /><br />He's twisting in the wind, bettin' on that losin' card<br />He's makin' the same mistakes he swore he'd never make again.<br /><br />;-)desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42370458344510310222013-07-31T22:33:22.111-04:002013-07-31T22:33:22.111-04:00THE STATE has filed a lawsuit against a Montgomery...<i>THE STATE has filed a lawsuit against a Montgomery County official for issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.<br /><br />...<br /><br />"Compliance with Pennsylvania law by its public officials is a mandatory obligation," the suit states. "Ours is a government of laws, not one of public officials exercising their will as they believe the law should be or will be."</i>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-45150980544913624322013-07-31T22:30:48.807-04:002013-07-31T22:30:48.807-04:00desert ratWed Jul 31, 10:09:00 PM EDT
Israel is in...desert ratWed Jul 31, 10:09:00 PM EDT<br />Israel is in an Arab country, Palestine.<br /><br /><br />Do you actually read a history book Rat?<br /><br />There has never been a "country" called Palestine, unless you mean the meaningless action the PA took in the last few years.<br /><br />desert ratWed Jul 31, 10:09:00 PM EDT<br />Israel is in an Arab country, Palestine.<br /><br /><br />Please tell oh wise one, When the "arab" country of Palestine was formed, Who was it's 1st President? Or King if you wish...<br /><br />We are waiting...<br /><br />wiggle wiggle wiggle.<br /><br />talk about getting dumber by the day.<br /><br />Do some history on the term Palestine. When and by whom was it named... (please notice not an arab to be found for 640 years)<br />What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-28955207869860292412013-07-31T22:27:21.023-04:002013-07-31T22:27:21.023-04:00Funny stuff.
For years our AIPAC contingent has t...Funny stuff.<br /><br />For years our AIPAC contingent has told us that the Judaic claim to the Israeli portion of Palestine is biblical. That God granted them that portion of the Middle East.<br /><br />The cultural heart of Judaism is Middle Eastern, it is in Jerusalem, iin the Middle East.<br /><br />So culturally and geographically Israel and its peoples are Middle Eastern. <br /><br />No matter where in the world the folks that qualify for "Right of Return" to the Israeli portion of Palestine go, or were born, their roots are in Arabia. They are Middle Eastern no matter where they were born.<br /><br />Yet that same AIPAC crowd would have you believe that they are "Western", not Middle Eastern in culture and breeding. <br />Nothing could be further from the truth.<br /><br />As in most things Israeli, they want it both ways.<br />To have their cake and eat it, too.<br /><br />Comical, they are.<br />Selling their thread worn propaganda themes and finding willing takers, like boobie, the camp follower.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-7122781462223485272013-07-31T22:26:59.732-04:002013-07-31T22:26:59.732-04:00Rat your ability to spin shit grows on a daily bas...Rat your ability to spin shit grows on a daily basis. Posting as many threads as you do and actually saying nothing! Amazing.What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-69897866669134747242013-07-31T22:15:00.855-04:002013-07-31T22:15:00.855-04:00Why should anyone else?Why should anyone else?desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-20391447601024284902013-07-31T22:14:25.473-04:002013-07-31T22:14:25.473-04:00I know you use words that you do not understand th...I know you use words that you do not understand the meaning of, a lot.<br /><br />But Semitic, Middle East, Palestine, even Israel, nothing western about any of them.<br />Why in the world would you compare Israel to any western nation?desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42811432228180430392013-07-31T22:12:36.647-04:002013-07-31T22:12:36.647-04:00The Middle East is by definition, quot, not wester...The Middle East is by definition, quot, not western.<br /><br />Look at a map.<br /><br />;-)<br /><br />Culturally, Judaism is a Middle Eastern religion, not western.<br /><br />Nothing about Israel is western.<br /><br />It is Semitic, don't you know. <br />I thought you knew what that word meant.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.com