tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post6101476246981716131..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Trent Lott Tells Hannity that the Administration is the Problem.Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-20152489390021748932007-06-22T15:02:00.000-04:002007-06-22T15:02:00.000-04:002164th: A conservative would find the forensics b...2164th: <I> A conservative would find the forensics behind the IEDs, deystroy the factory , workers and neighborhood that built and supported them, the transportaion and roads that brought them and the politicians that sanctioned them.</I><BR/><BR/>A conservative wouldn't be occupying Iraq to engage in nationbuilding. <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/bush/wpj.htm" REL="nofollow">Colin Dueck, "Hegemony on the Cheap: Liberal Internationalism from Wilson to Bush," World Policy Journal, Vol. XX, no. 4 (Winter 2004/04)</A><BR/><BR/>"...the administration’s difficulties in Iraq are actually the result of an excessive reliance on classically liberal or Wilsonian assumptions regarding foreign affairs. The administration has willed the end in Iraq—and a very ambitious end—but it has not fully willed the means. In this sense, the Bush administration is heir to a long liberal internationalist tradition that runs from Woodrow Wilson, through FDR and Harry Truman, to Bill Clinton..."Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-84740835116768575392007-06-22T02:33:00.000-04:002007-06-22T02:33:00.000-04:00Jesus Christ, none of that addresses our foreign p...Jesus Christ, none of that addresses our foreign policy. None of that addresses how we got here. And what I have occasionally appreciated about "conservatism" is the willingness to address fundamentals.<BR/><BR/>You don't do that, you are well and truly fucked.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-71926425465895070782007-06-22T02:16:00.000-04:002007-06-22T02:16:00.000-04:00A conservative war would not give away advantages ...A conservative war would not give away advantages to an enemy. It would not use the words collateral damage. It would not put limitations to violence on an enemy. A mosque would be as good a target as any. A conservative would not have built and spent tens of billions of dollars on Guantanamo. There never would have been a need for one. Maybe not, maybe it should be expanded and used to house lawyers and politicians.<BR/> <BR/>A conservative would not have woman in combat. A conservative would viciously seek out the infrastructure that supported suicide bombers and send them and their neighbors to hell. A conservative would find the forensics behind the IEDs, deystroy the factory , workers and neighborhood that built and supported them, the transportaion and roads that brought them and the politicians that sanctioned them. A conservative would scare the living shit out of his enemies and would let Islam know that it is the problem and the remedy for the problem was obvious.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-60514264599190696322007-06-22T01:18:00.000-04:002007-06-22T01:18:00.000-04:00Conservatism's like porn, Doug. You know it when y...Conservatism's like porn, Doug. You know it when you see it, right?trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-3602538531155742482007-06-22T00:50:00.000-04:002007-06-22T00:50:00.000-04:00Read Reagan on why I AM a conservative!Read Reagan on why I AM a conservative!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-75717842437930889182007-06-21T23:47:00.000-04:002007-06-21T23:47:00.000-04:00Read Hayek on "Why I Am Not a Conservative."Read Hayek on "Why I Am Not a Conservative."trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-25047345180612125282007-06-21T23:28:00.000-04:002007-06-21T23:28:00.000-04:00"Hard to tell exactly, depends upon what the real ..."Hard to tell exactly, depends upon what the real meaning of conservative is, does it not?"<BR/><BR/>It does, Rat.<BR/><BR/>And there is no real meaning.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-26757214854885046802007-06-21T22:58:00.000-04:002007-06-21T22:58:00.000-04:00Doug said:My way to seriously outsmart them was to...Doug said:<BR/><I>My way to seriously outsmart them was to bomb the shit out of them.</I><BR/><BR/>In a "Conservative" way, of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-85877619007113851032007-06-21T22:44:00.000-04:002007-06-21T22:44:00.000-04:00It would have been to raid after the aQ operatives...It would have been to raid after the aQ operatives and their allies.<BR/>Using a lighter footprint.<BR/>Often none at all, as death would come from above.<BR/><BR/>A conservative approach would not engaged with micro-managing and rebuilding Iraqi.<BR/>Containment would have surficed, in retrospect, at much lower costs.<BR/><BR/>It could have been to drive on, into Syria, back in '03, taking the Sanctuaries and insurgent pipeline into both Iraq and Lebanon, leak.<BR/><BR/>To realize that to enter Iraq was to have entered a Regional War. That would have been "conservative", I think. <BR/>I did at the time.<BR/><BR/>Hard to tell exactly, depends upon what the real meaning of conservative is, does it not?desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-88255662711241471982007-06-21T22:26:00.000-04:002007-06-21T22:26:00.000-04:00Ash, Incompetence in protecting the Nation would b...Ash, Incompetence in protecting the Nation would be the most highly impeachable offense of all. You libs gotta understand; some things ARE above the Law. Survival of the Nation is Paramount over all else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-17733645118014073592007-06-21T22:23:00.000-04:002007-06-21T22:23:00.000-04:00I imagine Bob just got tired of "Corn" fields. We...I imagine Bob just got tired of "Corn" fields. We planted 91 Million Acres of that stuff this year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-56318196981467265592007-06-21T22:22:00.000-04:002007-06-21T22:22:00.000-04:00I didn't "contribute;" I "Grabbed" that Sucker. ...I didn't "contribute;" I "Grabbed" that Sucker. (Then borrowed a couple of dollars to finish it off. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-92160400165858746672007-06-21T22:13:00.000-04:002007-06-21T22:13:00.000-04:00oh ya, there's the indefinite detention of folk, t...oh ya, there's the indefinite detention of folk, that could be criminal but the immigration issue?Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06232405130481114127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-15811264063982717192007-06-21T22:12:00.000-04:002007-06-21T22:12:00.000-04:00sure, performance counts but while impeachment is ...sure, performance counts but while impeachment is ultimately a political act this recent talk, if it were ever followed through on, certainly lowers the impeachment bar. At least Clinton lied under oath...What criminal acts has Bush done? hmmmmmm.....Did he lie while delivering the State of the Union? Does breach of international law count? How about spying on Americans without a warrant - that's criminal is it not?Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06232405130481114127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-8452731205660099162007-06-21T22:03:00.000-04:002007-06-21T22:03:00.000-04:00What WOULD a conservative Iraq - and greater War -...What WOULD a conservative Iraq - and greater War - policy be, Rat?trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-26667702973173236952007-06-21T21:56:00.000-04:002007-06-21T21:56:00.000-04:00Performance counts, ash, more than rhetoric.Mr Bus...Performance counts, ash, more than rhetoric.<BR/><BR/>Mr Bush is not taking a "conservative" position on the border security or immigration, the two are connected but not synomonous.<BR/><BR/>He has not take the "conservative" position on Iraq and that War, at least not if I'm considered conservative. Or duece or whit or doug.<BR/>Even allen, then rufus, the hardest line GOP stalwart that has ever contributed to paying the Bar tabdesert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-79856909761807184342007-06-21T21:54:00.000-04:002007-06-21T21:54:00.000-04:00..to do otherwise Ash, you would have to call us w.....to do otherwise Ash, you would have to call us wrongwingers.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-6672367346110130982007-06-21T21:34:00.000-04:002007-06-21T21:34:00.000-04:00gosh, its kinda weird seeing the rightwingers scre...gosh, its kinda weird seeing the rightwingers screaming impeachment. I thought it was the loonie left's role. 'tis a strange world indeed.!Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06232405130481114127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-2919191665725378162007-06-21T21:24:00.000-04:002007-06-21T21:24:00.000-04:00Trent Lott seems to have a problem "running his mo...Trent Lott seems to have a problem "running his mouth" these days. First he pisses off conservatives and talk radio listeners, now the President. Of course, he's had it in for Bush ever since the Repubs abandoned him over another verbal incident. (I don't blame him for being pissed over that, though.)<BR/><BR/>BTW - It was good to hear from Bobal. I am curious about his ethanol remark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-20152707351705021662007-06-21T21:21:00.000-04:002007-06-21T21:21:00.000-04:00Doug:Re:Al-Qaeda in India.Doug:<BR/>Re:<A HREF="http://2164th.blogspot.com/2007/06/this-could-be-good.html" REL="nofollow">Al-Qaeda in India.</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-66154525425084254692007-06-21T21:05:00.000-04:002007-06-21T21:05:00.000-04:00To bad, that.To bad, that.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-36454278311631486872007-06-21T21:01:00.000-04:002007-06-21T21:01:00.000-04:00I think that day will come.I think that day will come.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-91601418497401881692007-06-21T20:59:00.000-04:002007-06-21T20:59:00.000-04:00We should put ABM's in India, then stir up enuff s...We should put ABM's in India, then stir up enuff shit that the Indians Nuke the Pakis!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-19628071666600410362007-06-21T20:52:00.000-04:002007-06-21T20:52:00.000-04:00I think the Indians will not be afraid to take a m...I think the Indians will not be afraid to take a muzzie or two apart at the seams.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-67142358687119051542007-06-21T20:49:00.000-04:002007-06-21T20:49:00.000-04:00I'l bet on the Indians.I'l bet on the Indians.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.com