tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post5304954773569590548..comments2024-03-29T06:35:11.321-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Are the Democrats Insane? Vote for Obama and Invite War.Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger127125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-90613369768952980962008-10-22T15:02:00.000-04:002008-10-22T15:02:00.000-04:00Bobal: You'll be able to hire a kid for sex, soon,...Bobal: <B>You'll be able to hire a kid for sex, soon, in San Francisco, and do it legally.</B><BR/><BR/>I hate that slippery slope shit. Hate it. SF is decriminalizing prostitution between consenting adults, and the righties go, "They're coming after your kids next". A state legalizes two gals getting married to each other, and the righties go, "Next thing you know, a 70 year old pedophile will be able to marry a nine year old boy."Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-7871730298195010752008-10-22T14:02:00.000-04:002008-10-22T14:02:00.000-04:00It's quite breathtaking, to me anyway, that the pe...It's quite breathtaking, to me anyway, that the period from 1991 to the present has seen a continuous series of wars and other military interventions. Stunning, actually. Allowing for the occasional pause, we can take this even further back. All the way back. <BR/><BR/>Americans in general are comfortable, uniquely comfortable, with the projection of force abroad. It's part of what we do and who we are. It is embedded in our culture. If we sometimes tire of it or fight about it or turn sour over it...there it is.<BR/><BR/>I, too, think McCain would be less inclined to intervention than Obama. But I don't believe, foreign policy-wise, that there would be radical differences between the two in practice. Differences of style and emphasis, sure. Operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, for instance, will change shape; but they won't end. No one's going to advise that; no one's going to undertake it. And looking down the road, I don't know how far, Central and South America will explode onto the radar again. Will it make a great difference who is in the Oval Office when that happens? Entire industries are devoted to steering our responses. <BR/><BR/>None of this is meant to be cynical or sneering. Just to say that one election - this election - is not going to change our stripes. WE are who WE are. And WE live in a Shit Happens world.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-91849319958918945182008-10-22T04:37:00.000-04:002008-10-22T04:37:00.000-04:00Maybe, if Kemper Marley were still alive, Maverick...Maybe, if Kemper Marley were still alive, Maverick would have had a chance against the Crowns, but doubtful still, even then.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-79952689587670819382008-10-22T04:34:00.000-04:002008-10-22T04:34:00.000-04:00This girl, she found some "real" issues, not, as d...This girl, she found some "real" issues, not, as described by John McCain, a washed up terrorist.<BR/><BR/><B>Obama’s 2006 Earmarks & the Crown Family</B><BR/><A HREF="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/13/obamas-2006-earmarks-the-crown-family/" REL="nofollow">By SusanUn: on March 13, 2008</A><BR/><BR/>wiki tells US this about the Obama moneyman<BR/><BR/><I><B> Presumably, the large stake held in Bank One at the time of the 2003 Forbes 400 listing has converted to JPMorgan Chase stock and was derived from an interest in First Chicago, which was enumerated in the 1998 Forbes 400 list as First Chicago NBD shares.</B><BR/><BR/> Recent achievements include brokering a controversial agreement to expand O'Hare International Airport, and spearheading the funding of the new Cook County Hospital (Stroger Hospital). He is a major benefactor of Jewish charities, universities and the Aspen Institute. He is the chairman of the Commercial Club of Chicago and Chicago Council on Global Affairs. His current hometown is Wilmette, IL.</I><BR/><BR/>JP Morgan Chase, another one of those "Nationalized" banks.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-47005997647031549552008-10-22T04:23:00.000-04:002008-10-22T04:23:00.000-04:00But why ask why?But why ask why?desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-84371822636885090772008-10-22T04:21:00.001-04:002008-10-22T04:21:00.001-04:00The Chigaco WayA traget package left unscathedThe Chigaco Way<BR/><BR/>A traget package left unscatheddesert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-47274060067164319862008-10-22T04:21:00.000-04:002008-10-22T04:21:00.000-04:00And so, amigos mio, why is it that it is two weeks...And so, amigos mio, why is it that it is two weeks out, and only now is the Crown family of Chi-town fame becoming named contributors?<BR/><BR/>Ayers and Wright, while the Crowns ride clear<BR/><BR/>WaPo<BR/><BR/><I>Lost in the attention given to Obama's Internet surge is that only a quarter of the $600 million he has raised has come from donors who made contributions of $200 or less, according to a review of his FEC reports. That is actually slightly less, as a percentage, than President Bush raised in small donations during his 2004 race, although Obama has pulled from a far larger number of donors. In 2004, the Bush campaign claimed more than 2 million donors, while the Obama campaign claims to have collected its total from more than 3.1 million individuals. <BR/><BR/>"It's just unbelievable," said Thomas A. Daschle, the former Senate leader who is a top Obama adviser. "I don't know that anybody could have anticipated that the numbers would be this good." <BR/>...<BR/>From the start, Obama's campaign has designed a fundraising effort that tries to maximize contributions from both small and large donors. That effort expanded in late summer, when Obama prepared to accept his party's nomination and the DNC set up separate committees that would enable top donors to give as much as $65,500 to support his bid. <BR/><BR/>The best-known of those committees, the Obama Victory Fund, has catered to party regulars who attended one of dozens of gala events around the country, including VIP gatherings for those able to donate $28,500. The Committee for Change has quietly accepted millions more, in checks ranging from $5,000 to $66,900, from celebrities, corporate titans, Native American tribes and several of Obama's most ardent bundlers. <BR/><BR/>They include entertainment mogul David Geffen, Baltimore Orioles owner Peter Angelos, actress Annette Bening, the California-based Sycuan Band of the Kumeyaay Nation and members of Chicago's Crown family. <BR/>...<BR/>Among those who have both raised top dollar and donated it are St. Louis developer Bob Clark, Florida lawyer Mark Gilbert, and Hollywood moguls Geffen and Jeffrey Katzenberg, whose children each gave $37,000 to the Committee for Change. <BR/><B><BR/>The Crowns, longtime Obama patrons, are among a handful who have given across the board: They raised more than $500,000 for Obama's campaign, they collectively gave $18,500 directly to the campaign, they donated $57,000 to the Victory Fund, and they sent $74,000 to the Committee for Change. </B></I><BR/><BR/>Obama, bought and paid for.<BR/>He's a Crown man. <BR/>Member of the Team<BR/><BR/><I>#52 Lester Crown & family<BR/>Net Worth: $4.0 billion <BR/>Source: Investments, investments<BR/>Inherited and growing<BR/><BR/>Age: 80<BR/>Marital Status: Married, 7 children<BR/>Hometown: Wilmette, IL<BR/>Education: Northwestern University, Bachelor of Arts / Science<BR/>Harvard University, Master of Business Administration <BR/><BR/>Financier father, Henry Crown (d. 1990), created Material Service with 2 brothers in 1919 after being fired from $4-per-week job. Built into multimillion-dollar business; merged with General Dynamics 1959. Today Lester retains big stake of General Dynamics; stock in Hilton Hotels, Alltel. Also big stake in Maytag, appliance outfit purchased by Whirlpool for $1.7 billion in August. <BR/><B>Activist spends free time solving global problems: chairs Chicago Foreign Relations Council, sits on board of Aspen Institute. Competitive edge kept sharp with stakes in baseball's New York Yankees, basketball's Chicago Bulls.<BR/></B></I>desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-31334554172504987692008-10-22T02:48:00.000-04:002008-10-22T02:48:00.000-04:00You won't be hearing Ash saying anything about it,...You won't be hearing Ash saying anything about it, not about Wright, or Ayers.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Narry a word.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-9482043691957222972008-10-22T02:14:00.000-04:002008-10-22T02:14:00.000-04:00Get that land back into productionfor the betterme...<I>Get that land back into production<BR/>for the betterment of the greater society and US, most of all.</I><BR/><BR/>ah shit, not a bad plan, if we figure how to make it work...how...how....Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-61655476973288828532008-10-22T00:56:00.000-04:002008-10-22T00:56:00.000-04:00I gotta find and post the picture my wife took of ...<I>I gotta find and post the picture my wife took of Pete Rose in Vegas.</I><BR/><BR/>Which reminds me Doug, did the wife make the trip to Vegas?<BR/><BR/>You were asking me about motels and stuff, as I recall. Some time ago.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-31788111559901651002008-10-22T00:47:00.000-04:002008-10-22T00:47:00.000-04:00I remember when old Bob Newland, deceased, an uned...I remember when old Bob Newland, deceased, an uneducated man, but a great farmer, who had married one of my dad's sisters, bought us all a great dinner in Chinatown, San Francisco, in the 50's. There were twenty or more of us in the party. Great dinner, the best I've ever had. I remember, you kind of walked around the corner, and all of a sudden, like magic, you were in Chinatown.<BR/><BR/>At Christmas.<BR/><BR/>Look at it now. A pimp and six whores on every corner. Modern education for you.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-34669684338824254392008-10-22T00:33:00.000-04:002008-10-22T00:33:00.000-04:00Everything stinking and sordid starts in the big c...Everything stinking and sordid starts in the big cities in the south of <BR/>California. Then works its way up here.<BR/><BR/>And it always revolves around one of three things<BR/><BR/>Drugs<BR/>Sex<BR/>Violence<BR/><BR/>In no particular order.<BR/><BR/>The Democratic Party has endorsed Prop K.<BR/><BR/>The Party of Ash, and Barry Obama.<BR/><BR/>That's the truth of it.<BR/><BR/>And if Ash wants to say, "Even I think that goes too far" let him do so.<BR/><BR/>We had a pretty good congresswoman for awhile, Helen Chenoweth, who said, "it's too damn cold up here for most of 'em."Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-39787473905291168242008-10-22T00:05:00.000-04:002008-10-22T00:05:00.000-04:00Proposition K has been endorsed by the local Democ...<I>Proposition K has been endorsed by the local Democratic Party.</I><BR/><BR/>Change you can count on, friends, brought to you by the party of Barry. <BR/><BR/>Barry BO Obama.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-21566267000025122642008-10-22T00:00:00.000-04:002008-10-22T00:00:00.000-04:00San Francisco to legalize all sex.HereYou'll be ab...San Francisco to legalize all sex.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93V4U0O0&show_article=1" REL="nofollow">Here</A><BR/><BR/>You'll be able to hire a kid for sex, soon, in San Francisco, and do it legally.<BR/><BR/>Bernie Ward would be proud.<BR/><BR/>Look what we have come to.<BR/><BR/>Look at it.<BR/><BR/>Every man must look to his own moral life now.<BR/><BR/>The state having given up.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-90758225872923875592008-10-21T23:52:00.000-04:002008-10-21T23:52:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-31421450093619904112008-10-21T23:04:00.000-04:002008-10-21T23:04:00.000-04:00Consumer spending is also expected to drop, draggi...<I>Consumer spending is also expected to drop, dragging the UK into the worst downturn of all G7 countries.<BR/><BR/>The UK is adjudged to be especially vulnerable to the credit crisis because high levels of household debt and low levels of savings.<BR/><BR/>As the Bank of England responds to the slowing economy, interest rates are expected to fall half a percentage point at the beginning of 2009 – even though inflation is not expected to drop to the two per cent target until 2010.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/economy/recession-run-into-2009-$1245823.htm" REL="nofollow">Into '09</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-64020702640298222962008-10-21T22:59:00.000-04:002008-10-21T22:59:00.000-04:00Comment by az_lender 2008-10-11 13:06:17 And I not...Comment by az_lender <BR/>2008-10-11 13:06:17 <BR/><BR/>And I notice the actual message of the article is, housing in the Bay Area won’t begin appreciating again till 2014. Some of us had had 2012 as an earliest-possible time, because the waves of ARM resets will be finished by then. <BR/><BR/>I imagine in the Thornberg universe 2014 is also an earliest-possible date. Any of us can imagine a Japan-like scenario where house prices fall for another decade. <BR/><BR/>California and Canada have stopped ordering Maine lobster. Calif because they’re broke, Canada because lots of the lobster moved up there. <BR/><BR/>So tomorrow there’s going to be a “save our fishermen” event on the pier here, where $3.50 per cooked lobster buys you as many as you want. <BR/><BR/>I remember paying $2.50 in 1957. Disinflation, anyone?<BR/><BR/>- Housing Bubble BlogDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-19137643770204391762008-10-21T22:41:00.000-04:002008-10-21T22:41:00.000-04:00"I have some concerns about the direction that the...<I>"I have some concerns about the direction that the party has taken in recent years," ... "It has moved more to the right than I would like"</I><BR/><BR/>-Powellsamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-24618802283109635802008-10-21T22:39:00.000-04:002008-10-21T22:39:00.000-04:00Powell May be the only Media Star left w/o blue wh...Powell May be the only Media Star left w/o blue white Teeth.<BR/><BR/>Biden doesn't look close to human with the Orange Face, Blue Teeth, Hair Plugs, Botox.<BR/>...no wonder they don't release his brain scans.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-18198657757691859682008-10-21T22:38:00.000-04:002008-10-21T22:38:00.000-04:00Attracting young voters has been a major portion o...<I>Attracting young voters has been a major portion of Obama's strategy to win the election, but he doesn't hold a monopoly on their vote. Obama is expected to receive more than the 55 percent of Michigan's 18-29 votes Sen. John Kerry got in 2004, according to a story in The Detroit News.<BR/><BR/>That includes Kaitlin Diemer, a freshman at Baker College who likes Obama's stance on the economy.<BR/><BR/>"I don't really like Obama or McCain, but I like McCain a lot less," she said. "I'm voting because I have that right and I feel I should exercise it."</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/2008/10/young_voters_gear_up_for_elect.html" REL="nofollow">Gearing Up for Election</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-43476941424463941142008-10-21T22:34:00.000-04:002008-10-21T22:34:00.000-04:00For White Bob:"Yes, thank you...I am proud of myse...For White Bob:<BR/><A HREF="https://www.lauraingraham.com/images/photos/colinpowell.jpg" REL="nofollow">"<EM>Yes, thank you...I am proud of myself</EM>." </A>Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12659254862526161232008-10-21T22:26:00.000-04:002008-10-21T22:26:00.000-04:00RCP has Obama up by 7.2 and Zogby has him up by 10...RCP has Obama up by 7.2 and Zogby has him up by 10. He's starting to pull out of the statistical "grass" and open up a clear lead with two weeks to go. Now would be a good time for Bush to roll out his October surprise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-20572146698144029422008-10-21T22:11:00.000-04:002008-10-21T22:11:00.000-04:00M60A1<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_Army_M551_Sheridan_German_village.jpg" REL="nofollow">M60A1</A>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-74410390054884510282008-10-21T21:38:00.000-04:002008-10-21T21:38:00.000-04:00Boeblingen, was there for "Reforger '79", man o ma...<EM>Boeblingen, was there for "Reforger '79", man o man.<BR/><BR/>Livin' in a mud bog, in GP Mediums with wood pallet floors.</EM><BR/><BR/>I saw the Reforger storage facilities go in '67-'69. Acres of M-60s, M-113s, and M-109s, bumper-to-bumper, side-by-side in hermetically sealed warehouses. Worked on some of the sites. <BR/><BR/><EM>Livin' in a mud bog, in GP Mediums with wood pallet floors.</EM><BR/><BR/>LOL...at an ass chewing I took from the battalion commander over wood pallet floors. Good story. Maybe some other time. <BR/><BR/>Lead-in: ...The colonel entered the operations tent, mud over his boot tops. We were high and dry on wood pallet floors...linearthinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05201292791445921817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-32120278879052477842008-10-21T21:34:00.000-04:002008-10-21T21:34:00.000-04:00My 2008 Predictions, written in December 2007. Ho...<B>My 2008 Predictions, written in December 2007. Horrible track record.</B><BR/><BR/>1. Romney and Clinton in the general, Romney after a brokered GOP convention, Clinton after beating Obama by the skin of her teeth. The election will be close again, like 2000 or 2004, but I cannot foresee which way it will tip.<BR/><BR/>2. Oil prices reach a more reasonable $50 a barrel as Iraqi production is jacked up and slow growth tempers demand. Larry Kudlow continues to tell Goldilocks stories, at least until Hillary gets in there and raises taxes.<BR/><BR/>3. The United States, assisted by a collapsing dollar, ramps up on domestic manufacture of high-ticket items like cars and planes for export and domestic sale. Troops in Iraq are brought down to a level sufficient to get Romney into office but not enough to allow the insurgency to restart.<BR/><BR/>4. China starts making more of the middle-range stuff like refrigerators and television sets, and officially becomes a full partner in the global system, symbolized by the Olympics.<BR/><BR/>5. The strong Euro means Europe starts making more of the dollar store stuff, with local Muslims providing the touch labor. This makes them even more dependent on immigration from Algeria and Pakistan. Labor difficulties are not handled with strikes but with car and subway bombs.<BR/><BR/>6. Pope Benedict XVI rules ex cathedra, officially closing the door on female clergy and married priests in the Church (currently there are ambiguous statements from JP2 governing that issue). He tempers this by defining Mary's role as co-Redemptrix as Catholic Dogma, beatifies Johannes Paulus II Magnus, and canonizes Theresa of Calcutta.<BR/><BR/>7. The writers strike surpasses the duration of the 1988 one, running into the fall season. The long term effect is to kill the sitcom and drama format and completely turn television over to "reality" shows like Celebrity Bowling. Small independent films written by their director/producers dominate the Oscars.<BR/><BR/>8. The CD music format finally dies, killed by downloads, both legal and illegal. DVD rental vending machines appear at the front of every gas food mart. Sunglasses with GPS "heads-up" displays and built-in cellphones are the rage. Cars are fitted with computers and sensors that prevent tailgating, and this becomes mandatory by statute.<BR/><BR/>9. As the President sleepwalks through his final year in office, Bush Derangement Syndrome begins to go into remission worldwide. After a few incidents of mega-terrorism in Canada and the Netherlands, the non-Islamic world wakes up from their America-bashing dream and finds it it's still a dangerous place out there and the touchy-feely stuff doesn't always cut it.<BR/><BR/>10. A tunnel from Gaza to a village in the Negev permits Hamas to kidnap a number of civilians, including children, whose brutal torture is posted on YouTube. Israel responds with a full invasion that divides Gaza indefinitely into eight zones administered by IDF colonels. Abbas proceeds with "final status" negotiations for the West Bank, fearing the similar division and subdivision of Judaea and Samaria.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com