tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post4762838820055564028..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: Canadians set the record straight on historic revisionismDeuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-45322729424553882112013-05-22T04:49:17.868-04:002013-05-22T04:49:17.868-04:00Right click anywhere on your desktop's taskbar...Right click anywhere on your desktop's taskbar, go to the police with, and no access to the <a href="http://www.Fsrq.org/" rel="nofollow">keylogger</a> is installed between your keyboard and then store it for future retrieval. No-one will know you might be curious as to what it really is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-27535111953285352952013-02-27T02:30:46.598-05:002013-02-27T02:30:46.598-05:00I do not recall.
...and you can't beat it outt...I do not recall.<br />...and you can't beat it outta me.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-58233854383440995432013-02-27T01:47:21.963-05:002013-02-27T01:47:21.963-05:00.
...but never forget KSM...
:)
You and I went ....<br /><br /><i>...but never forget KSM...</i><br /><br />:)<br /><br />You and I went around on the same subject wrt KSM back in 2009 when Panetta was going through confirmation hearings for CIA director.<br /><br />As I recall, I was right in that case too.<br /><br />:)<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-87199549760566791192013-02-27T01:19:20.826-05:002013-02-27T01:19:20.826-05:00OK, I was wrong about West, but never forget KSM:
...OK, I was wrong about West, but never forget KSM:<br /><br />"'I'm a very dangerous mastermind,' said Mohammed, who confessed to the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby, the Brink's robbery, St. Valentine's Day Massacre, and the Lincoln and McKinley assassinations. Mohammed also accepted responsibility for spreading hay fever and cold sores around the world and for rained out picnics."<br />Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-9579219277979351332013-02-27T00:50:05.976-05:002013-02-27T00:50:05.976-05:00.
The two stories above on Col. West only vary a....<br /><br /><br />The two stories above on Col. West only vary as a result of the different perspectives of the authors.<br /><br />However, the facts of the case are clear.<br /><br />1. An 'informant' fingered a policeman and indicated the man was planning an attack on West's outfit. (The only comment I would make regarding the informant was this was in 2003, in Iraq, sectarian violence all around, and we didn't have a clue who our friends were, which informants were trying to help us, which trying to mislead us, which trying to settle old scores, and which were trying to simply make a buck. Interestingly, the person fingered was a policeman and no doubt he had a few enemies.)<br /><br />2. West ordered the man arrested, questioned him and when that didn't work turned him over to a half a dozen of his boys to be beat up.<br /><br />3. When the beating did no good, West went through a mock execution, an action prohibited by the Geneva conventions. At this point, the detainee 'confessed', stated where the ambush was to take place and fingered three other accomplices involved in the 'plot'.<br /><br />4. However, the attack never took place, and after an investigation by the military, no evidence was found to connect the policeman to any kind of a plot. He was released without charge. There was no foiled attack because there was no attack.<br /><br />5. West was fined and allowed to resign his commission.<br /><br />Yet, this is the evidence you offer as proof that torture saves lives? I would suggest you look up the definition of proof.<br /><br />There is no proof here, merely your opinion. It's the same thing I complained about in my post above. An alternate scenario offers about the same 'proof' as West offers: an Iraqi 'informant' trying to settle a grudge with a policeman over some previous grievance fingers the cop, a little revenge and maybe a few bucks in the bargain. Heck, maybe the informant actually thought the cop was guilty. It doesn't matter either way.<br /><br />West has the guy arrested, questioned, and beaten up. He's not getting the answers he wants so he decides to have a little fun with a mock execution. The prisoner although offering nothing up to this point, when his head is stuck in a bucket and a gun fired next it, becomes quite focused. He tells West anything he wants to hear. Plot? Of course. Accomplices? You betcha. My sister's address? You got a pen and paper.<br /><br />The uncertainty of any info obtained under torture in most cases make it inactionable.<br /><br />I say <i>24</i> is a tv program and Jack Bauer doesn't really exist. You say torture saves lives. I repeat, prove it.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-28395204508606373622013-02-27T00:04:20.494-05:002013-02-27T00:04:20.494-05:00.
I knew the general story of Col. West but it....<br /><br />I knew the general story of Col. West but it's been a few years so I revisited it this morning. As I thought, the story merely supported the post I put up.<br /><br />From wiki (on Mock Executions)<br /><br /><i>In April 2003, U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Allen West (who later served a single term as a Congressman for Florida's 22nd congressional district) had an Iraqi police officer named Yehiya Kadoori Hamoodi seized and brought in for questioning based on allegations he was planning an imminent attack on Mr. West's unit. After Mr. Hamoodi was allegedly beaten by an interpreter and several U.S. troops, Mr. West took Mr. Hamoodi out of the interrogation room and showed him six U.S. troops with weapons in hand. Mr. West told Mr. Hamoodi, "If you don't talk, they will kill you." Mr. West then placed Mr. Hamoodi's head in a bucket used for cleaning weapons, placed his gun into the bucket and discharged the weapon near Mr. Hamoodi's head. Mr. Hamoodi then provided Mr. West with names, location and methods of the alleged ambush. However, the alleged ambush—supposedly scheduled for the following day—never occurred, and a search of Mr. Hamoodi's residence uncovered no evidence of any plans of attack. Mr. Hamoodi was subsequently released without charges. For his involvement in this incident, Mr. West was charged with violations of two statutes of the Uniform Code of Military Justice; however, charges were subsequently dropped after Mr. West was fined $5,000 for the incident and allowed to resign his position with the U.S. Army without court martial.[4]</i><br /><br />However, if you don't like Wiki, this from Gerald Atkinson (I'm sure you'll like old Gerald. He likes to spout off on the 'warrior ethic' and the 'feminization of America' and he thinks what Col. West did was just super.)<br /><br /><i>"An informant told the soldiers that one person involved in the attack was a town policeman. Col. West sent two sergeants to detain the policeman, who was placed in a detention center near the Taji air base. The interrogators had no luck at first, so Col. West decided to take over the questioning." <br /><br />West, accompanied by a few of his soldiers, attempted to gather information from the detainee. "He said his soldiers, 'physically aggress[ed]' [read 'beat up'] the prisoner. A subsequent investigation resulted in nonjudicial punishment for them in the form of fines." <br /><br />After the physical 'aggress' failed, Col. West says he brandished his pistol. "I did use my 9mm weapon to threaten him and fired it twice. Once I fired into the weapons clearing barrel outside the facility alone, and the next time I did it while having his head close to the barrel. I fired away from him. I stood in between the firing and his person. 'I admit that what I did was not right but it was done with the concern of the safety of my soldiers and myself.'" <br /><br />Col. West said he informed his superior of his actions. The incident lay dormant until the Army conducted an overall command-climate investigation of the brigade. The investigation turned up the interrogation technique, and Col. West was charged with one count of aggravated assault [under the Uniform Code of Military Justice]. <br /><br />West said the gunshots spurred the Iraqi to provide the location of the planned sniper attack and the names of the three guerrilla fighters. The planned Iraqi ambush was forestalled. The information garnered by Col. West's interrogation of the detainee [2] allowed him to avoid [the planned ambush areas] as [his unit] conducted sweeps [to find Saddam's guerrillas]...</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1292249/posts" rel="nofollow">Adam West: True American Hero</a><br /><br />(comments below) <br /><br />.<br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-89963694805997190582013-02-26T23:11:34.230-05:002013-02-26T23:11:34.230-05:00I especially like Moochelle presenting the Bengazi...I especially like Moochelle presenting the Bengazi trophy to her poor friends.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12817542664555690962013-02-26T23:09:24.266-05:002013-02-26T23:09:24.266-05:00...And tell us that the Obamas do not spend 365 da......And tell us that the Obamas do not spend 365 days a year playing one phoney card or another.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-76641756312645234022013-02-26T23:07:36.481-05:002013-02-26T23:07:36.481-05:00Are you married, Ash?
...any kids?Are you married, Ash?<br />...any kids?Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-25747928935399607502013-02-26T22:59:32.609-05:002013-02-26T22:59:32.609-05:00No Doug, it is you; a bitter old man playing the v...No Doug, it is you; a bitter old man playing the victim card.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-13174962923889445932013-02-26T22:59:06.695-05:002013-02-26T22:59:06.695-05:00I guess no one, including you, will accuse me of ...I guess no one, including you, will accuse me of being: not being an american, having loyalty to another nation over this nation or any other slanderous attacks that you an others have done in the past.<br /><br />What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-10990418870875959552013-02-26T22:58:28.305-05:002013-02-26T22:58:28.305-05:00O..... A..
Orange And Green snowcones.
Enjoy!O..... A..<br /><br />Orange And Green snowcones.<br /><br />Enjoy!Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-31557669016662536762013-02-26T22:55:47.221-05:002013-02-26T22:55:47.221-05:00Like poor, frugal, hardworking Barry, and his equa...Like poor, frugal, hardworking Barry, and his equally poor, frugal, hardworking, proud <br />American Wife.<br />Spending all of their time concerned with the poor, while hanging out always with the rich.<br />Both victums of poverty, racism, and oppression.<br />boo hoo hoo.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-89101836991440625482013-02-26T22:47:31.710-05:002013-02-26T22:47:31.710-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-46215914378135753872013-02-26T22:31:40.231-05:002013-02-26T22:31:40.231-05:00"Suck Obama's Ass?"
Jeez."Suck Obama's Ass?"<br /><br />Jeez.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12686396736339010192013-02-26T22:22:03.356-05:002013-02-26T22:22:03.356-05:00How do you KNOW what I believe in?
Most of the ti...How do you KNOW what I believe in?<br /><br />Most of the time I have been pointing out that your statements and posts put Israel to one standard and hold no one to any standards.<br /><br /> מזל טוב back at ya.What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-43333953715592621742013-02-26T22:18:31.408-05:002013-02-26T22:18:31.408-05:00Quirk said...
Lord, Doug, if I could understand h...Quirk said...<br /><br />Lord, Doug, if I could understand half your gibbering, I might be insulted <br /><br />---<br /><br />If you simply rectified your ignorance on the subject you could understand.<br /><br />Check out the circumstances under which Col. West left active duty.<br /><br />...or don't.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-67043984304548004032013-02-26T22:11:28.714-05:002013-02-26T22:11:28.714-05:00Trish called Rufus a Steaming Pile of Dogshit.
Ne...Trish called Rufus a Steaming Pile of Dogshit.<br /><br />Neither was "run off" at the time, as I recall.<br /><br />...I have less enthusisam for the future having Rufus here again to suck O..... A..Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-82138531854305869252013-02-26T22:04:57.138-05:002013-02-26T22:04:57.138-05:00Spending More, doing less, it's the New Americ...Spending More, doing less, it's the New American Way.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-44612744744853359592013-02-26T20:57:08.934-05:002013-02-26T20:57:08.934-05:00Merely hype to put fear in the hearts. If you rea...Merely hype to put fear in the hearts. If you read the whole article, no big deal. Over reaction over a 2% cut.MOMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307879234693014691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-2480381300539575312013-02-26T20:43:27.792-05:002013-02-26T20:43:27.792-05:001. Define it yourself.
2. You and anyone else ha...1. Define it yourself. <br /><br />2. You and anyone else have my permission to attack any idea that I put up and you will have the comment left up to speak for itself. If you call me or anyone else that posts here on a regular basis a “nazi.” you will be tossed. If you spam a post , you will be tossed.<br /><br />3. If anyone attacks you in a similar fashion, they will be tossed. If they attack your religion on a personal basis, they will be tossed.<br /><br />4. Your arguments and rebuttals are welcome. I respect your defense of what you believe in but I certainly do not agree with you.<br /><br />5. מזל טובDeuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-66858015714317015272013-02-26T20:33:08.477-05:002013-02-26T20:33:08.477-05:00Really. There is nothing that i have said that I w...Really. There is nothing that i have said that I would not have said to you, straight up and face forward.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-80152204297323607022013-02-26T20:31:27.931-05:002013-02-26T20:31:27.931-05:00WASHINGTON -- Immigration and Customs Enforcement ...<i>WASHINGTON -- Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have released “several hundred” immigrants from deportation centers across the country, saying the move is an effort to cut costs ahead of budget cuts due to hit later this week.</i>Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-33553657911508169212013-02-26T18:43:49.437-05:002013-02-26T18:43:49.437-05:00Good day! I coulԁ hаve sworn I've visited this...Good day! I coulԁ hаve sworn I've visited this web site before but after looking at a few of the posts I realized it'ѕ new to me.<br /><br />Nonеtheless, I'm certainly delighted I came across it and I'll be book-maгking іt and сhecκing back regularly!<br /><br /><br />Visit my blog pοst; <a href="http://www.crosbytx.us/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=SiennaHar" rel="nofollow">Fotografos de bodas</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-24025598247150879722013-02-26T17:32:24.471-05:002013-02-26T17:32:24.471-05:00this is what I have: An ad hominem is an argument...this is what I have: An ad hominem is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument.<br /><br />This ought to be interesting.<br /><br />What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/08237879055691019968noreply@blogger.com