tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post388406571355124442..comments2024-03-18T16:10:41.673-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: The liberal elite has betrayed the middle class people that they claim to help. Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1674083670306848722013-07-24T01:38:54.081-04:002013-07-24T01:38:54.081-04:00.
That is one of the key arguments being made her....<br /><br />That is one of the key arguments being made here. Surprisingly, its being made by many of the suburbs surrounding Detroit. And even though many of the citizens of Detroit and their elected officials previously refused to even listen to any plans offered by the state and others to help for fear of losing their 'jewels', now few seem to care since the only thing they are concerned with right now, and understandably so, is their own survival.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-56462522534986467762013-07-24T01:23:39.032-04:002013-07-24T01:23:39.032-04:00.
A federal appeals court Tuesday found unconstit....<br /><br />A federal appeals court Tuesday found unconstitutional a law that gives thousands of Americans born in Jerusalem the option of listing Israel as their birthplace on U.S. passports...<br /><br />---------------<br /><br />In a separation-of-powers dispute centered on Middle East politics, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit found that the law passed by Congress in 2002 “impermissibly intrudes” on the powers of the president.<br /><br />-------------<br /><br />The court’s opinion cited submissions from the department that argued the law “runs headlong into a carefully calibrated and long-standing executive branch policy of neutrality toward Jerusalem.”<br /><br />Since Israel’s creation in 1948, Henderson wrote, U.S. presidents have “steadfastly declined to recognize any foreign nation’s sovereignty over that city.” The executive branch has made clear that the status of Jerusalem must be decided not unilaterally by the United States but by all the relevant parties.<br /><br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/court-overturns-passport-law-implying-israeli-sovereignty-over-jerusalem/2013/07/23/1a97523a-f3c1-11e2-aa2e-4088616498b4_story.html?hpid=z4<br /><br />This should clear up one point of argument that has arisen here before.<br /><br />.<br /><br />Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-54092641978152095512013-07-24T01:22:00.523-04:002013-07-24T01:22:00.523-04:00It sounds to me like an aluminum Enron, an economy...It sounds to me like an aluminum Enron, an economy based on financial engineering, about as economically useful as high frequency trading by the high frequency mutherfuckers and their lawyers. Another massive collapse in the making.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-71975970183459954662013-07-24T01:17:23.830-04:002013-07-24T01:17:23.830-04:00Let me chime in here on the Detroit art collection...Let me chime in here on the Detroit art collection. It is fairly reasonable to expect that some part of Detroit is going to survive. Any city must have a reasonable amount of cultural anchors. The art collection offers an opportunity to develop a museum that, properly located to other reasonably attractive municipal assets, could generate a development hub, far more valuable than the money received at auction. The proceeds of an auction will be a drop in the leaky bucket, where a museum could be a repair to the bucket.<br /><br />Detroit needs micro solutions in a general macro plan. Declaring Detroit, all of it, a federal and local enterprise zone, would do far more good than selling cultural capital. Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-81747427026437836672013-07-24T01:10:08.340-04:002013-07-24T01:10:08.340-04:00>>>>Schuette, the Attorney General, ha... >>>>Schuette, the Attorney General, has ruled that the art at the DIA can't be sold as it is held in trust for the State of Michigan. One judge has agreed with him although a couple of bankruptcy lawyers have said on tv that's not so. We shall see.<<<<<br /><br />This is good news.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-24527430075565971132013-07-24T01:05:31.089-04:002013-07-24T01:05:31.089-04:00Calling that good Lady Trish 'den mother' ...Calling that good Lady Trish 'den mother' for years, for instance.<br /><br />Just a nasty schoolyard bully that never grew up.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-88857858232515551232013-07-24T01:03:12.076-04:002013-07-24T01:03:12.076-04:00No one takes you seriously on anything anymore, ra...No one takes you seriously on anything anymore, rat.<br /><br />Your credibility is shot.<br /><br />All anyone sees in you anymore is a nasty man, a schoolyard bully that never grew up.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-90532660588622039872013-07-24T00:57:33.199-04:002013-07-24T00:57:33.199-04:00But slowly, as we have all that wonderful National...But slowly, as we have all that wonderful National Forest, and considerable Wilderness Areas, too.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-32763180737285437612013-07-24T00:56:29.234-04:002013-07-24T00:56:29.234-04:00.
We must turn to QUIRK on this.
Well, my first ....<br /><br /><i>We must turn to QUIRK on this.</i><br /><br />Well, my first observation would be that no English major worth his salt would try to modify an absolute as with the use of "most unique".<br /><br />With regard to the art, I now hear that the bankruptcy laws covering municipalities are different in some ways from most of the bankruptcies we are used to. Cities are not required to sell all their assets. Schuette, the Attorney General, has ruled that the art at the DIA can't be sold as it is held in trust for the State of Michigan. One judge has agreed with him although a couple of bankruptcy lawyers have said on tv that's not so. We shall see.<br /><br />If any of it were to be sold, Kevin Orr, the emergency manager would have to decide which pieces would be sold. Not all of it can be sold. Some is just loaned to the museum and others were donated with strings attached. Obviously, anything the city bought outright could be sold.<br /><br />I am hoping something can be worked out to keep everything intact.<br /><br />Orr's job is to come up with a plan that assures when Detroit comes out of bankruptcy it will be able to sustain itself and provide adequate protection and services for the citizens of Detroit. All the players are likely to suffer, retirees, bondholders, unions, and likely some of the 'jewels'. For instance, it wouldn't surprise me to see the water department privatized or taken over by the affected counties. The state has already offered to take over Belle Isle on a ninety-nine year lease, maintain it and put in improvements. The zoo and the DIA are currently run by independent outside non-profit authorities and the three counties surrounding these two institutions contribute to their upkeep. I'm optimistic that some deal can be worked out to save them both if required.<br /><br />The judge appointed to the Detroit case will take a look at the plan Orr comes up with and determine if the proposed 'New Detroit' will be able to stand on its own before he agrees to allow it to exit bankruptcy.<br /><br />. Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-15468416693799525982013-07-24T00:56:02.354-04:002013-07-24T00:56:02.354-04:00I hate the New York Times, and it is happening.I hate the New York Times, and it is happening.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-75600520270070384952013-07-23T23:40:17.806-04:002013-07-23T23:40:17.806-04:00On this day in 2000, Tiger Woods – at 24 years old...On this day in 2000, Tiger Woods – at 24 years old – won the British Open, becoming the youngest golfer to win a career Grand Slam.samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-29936151919422528312013-07-23T23:37:41.401-04:002013-07-23T23:37:41.401-04:00Irish Dancing<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_JOvx4XROQ" rel="nofollow">Irish Dancing</a>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-39895598542243550732013-07-23T23:37:00.829-04:002013-07-23T23:37:00.829-04:00But this socialist liberal's first choice woul...But this socialist liberal's first choice would always be the Divine Sarah.<br /><br />Second choice: maybe Judge Jeanine PirroBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-90867843556855840672013-07-23T23:25:43.817-04:002013-07-23T23:25:43.817-04:0055 MILLION American souls murdered and paid for by...55 MILLION American souls murdered and paid for by the government and the people of the USA since roe v wade....<br /><br />No matter how you slice it?<br /><br />America IS the murder capital of the world....<br />What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-11509698255145164282013-07-23T23:23:40.219-04:002013-07-23T23:23:40.219-04:00This socialist liberal voted for Romney.
This socialist liberal voted for Romney.<br />Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-43421630584215101832013-07-23T23:18:25.472-04:002013-07-23T23:18:25.472-04:00Blah, blah, blah.
"You have your feelings, a...Blah, blah, blah.<br /><br />"You have your feelings, and wish you could impose them upon others."<br /><br />Heh, that's really ripe, coming from you.<br /><br />What I want is to be left alone, and leave others alone, and not pay all my extra money in taxes.<br /><br />Pretty damn simple.<br /><br />While you, just the other day, wanted to confiscate the handguns of all and sundry. So you and your bubs in the Militia would be the only ones to have guns, or be able to protect themselves.<br /><br />hahahahha<br /><br /><br /><br />........<br /><br />Ash, you came back at the perfect time. Right when we were discussing how the policies of the liberal elites - that's you, sonny buck - have nearly destroyed the middle class, made welfare permanent, utterly destroyed Detroit and are working hard on many other places.<br /><br />You were wise to escape to Canada.<br /><br />Again, welcome back, Ash!! Our cross the border comrade!!Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-7057556547610629362013-07-23T23:14:46.904-04:002013-07-23T23:14:46.904-04:00Repeating propaganda does not truth make.
Th Isra...Repeating propaganda does not truth make.<br /><br />Th Israeli use of the "Big Lie" continues.<br /><br />Your calls for genocide against the Arabs of Palestine, your denial that there ever was a Palestine, well ...<br /><br />Hitler, Quot wrote, was right.<br />Telling us that tidbit just two days after the Patriot Day bombing in Boston.<br /><br />You are so steeped in Israeli propaganda that the truth escapes you.<br />You are still in denial of the murder of 20,000 Jews each year, financed by the state of Israel.<br />Leaving you to denounce those that support the position of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel as being anti-Semitic.<br /><br />Anyone that would deny that the state of Israel has financed the murder of over 250,000 Jews in the 21st century is anti-Semitic. desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-69291275350514459922013-07-23T23:08:47.538-04:002013-07-23T23:08:47.538-04:00That's better than loving cattle, I'd say....That's better than loving cattle, I'd say.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-22944460141354493342013-07-23T23:07:00.746-04:002013-07-23T23:07:00.746-04:00Israel is a portion of Palestine, all Israeli are ...Israel is a portion of Palestine, all Israeli are Palestinians<br />Not all Palestinians are Israeli.<br /><br />Nothing clever about it.<br /><br />It is a matter of both geography and language, little matter what a friend of Deuce's thinks about it.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-50226440280055752792013-07-23T23:01:58.162-04:002013-07-23T23:01:58.162-04:00There is only so much one can say about Goldman Su...There is only so much one can say about Goldman Sucks, ash.<br /><br />No one defends 'em, so there is no discussion.<br /><br />It is just another case of crony capitalism, old school banking regulations having been gutted by the Federals, that now allow banks to rape and pillage Main Street, figuratively speaking, of course.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-75022208669877635602013-07-23T22:34:08.805-04:002013-07-23T22:34:08.805-04:00Isael, boobie, is a city state.
It is the same si...Isael, boobie, is a city state. <br />It is the same size as the metro Phoenix area.<br /><br />It is an apartheid state, with separate villages and areas for each of the varied religious groups, with separate and distinct civil and property rights for each disparate group.<br /><br />It is a totalitarian state, one that has been in violation of the Article 4 of the Geneva Accords since 1967. <br /><br />You may disagree, but never tell us why. Other than to tell us of your "feelings" which, like must socialist liberals, you cannot quantify. You have your feelings, and wish you could impose them upon others.<br /><br />desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-59428693961577932812013-07-23T22:27:38.468-04:002013-07-23T22:27:38.468-04:00The art belongs to the city, the way that Q told t...The art belongs to the city, the way that Q told the tale.<br /><br />When it was donated to the city museum, title transferred.<br />If the city owns that art, it should be sold, to cover the moral and financial obligations of the city.<br /><br />If the city does not own it, well then, the city does not own it.<br /><br />The buyers of the art, they would appreciate it, at least as much as the people that it was donated to.<br />People that have no financial investment in it, if it was donated, and the city owns it.<br /><br />That the Federals are going to count beans, well, let 'em.<br />Sure can't stop 'em from doing it.<br />Of all the things that the Federals do, that is objectionable, a housing survey is not high on the list.<br />Funding Israeli apartheid, that is objectionable.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42017870922215239722013-07-23T22:21:00.394-04:002013-07-23T22:21:00.394-04:00Ahh, but if you want, here in the US, a person CAN...Ahh, but if you want, here in the US, a person CAN stay off the grid.<br />Regardless, the government here has not financed the murder of Jews, year in, year out, every year of the 21st century.<br /><br />The Israeli government has.<br />They are socialist totalitarians.<br /><br />Here in the US, we have amateurs, what we call wannabe totalitarians in charge, by comparison to the Israeli.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-32710677950272837402013-07-23T21:57:32.408-04:002013-07-23T21:57:32.408-04:00desert ratTue Jul 23, 07:34:00 PM EDT
Israel is, r...desert ratTue Jul 23, 07:34:00 PM EDT<br />Israel is, right down to the identity cards that folks are forced to carry.<br />All totalitarians want to be able to demand that a persons papers are in order.<br /><br /><br /><br />This coming from a nation that wants to USE the IRS to enforce Obamacare, create a database to track your compliance, income, where you live so community organizer and tell if your suburb is properly race mixed...What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-54506935088755764512013-07-23T21:48:56.912-04:002013-07-23T21:48:56.912-04:00Tell the President's butt buddy, Jesse Jackson...Tell the President's butt buddy, Jesse Jackson that...<br /><br />He's got the President's ear...What is "Occupation"https://www.blogger.com/profile/02054075097495500689noreply@blogger.com