tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post3742732349628017716..comments2024-03-28T21:41:52.558-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: The Mac Mansion and Hyper SUV Reduces US to Grovelling in China.Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger166125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-60771240406767117612009-02-24T12:50:00.000-05:002009-02-24T12:50:00.000-05:00All those semitic languages are music to the ears,...All those semitic languages are music to the ears, slim.<BR/><BR/>Arabic, Hebrew, all semitics.<BR/><BR/>The majority of US voters followed Mr Crowns' advice and voted for Obama. The Muslims and the Jews, in the US, agreeing that Obama provided the "best way forward".<BR/><BR/>The legacy of Team43.<BR/><BR/>An electorate that was united resulting in a government that can be partisan.<BR/><BR/>I foresee international peacekeepers across the Levant, due to the failure of the locals to reach any sort of mutual accomedation to each other.<BR/><BR/>It is the SOP, for US.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-44715940204170699852009-02-24T08:58:00.000-05:002009-02-24T08:58:00.000-05:00"The bricks are being laid, one by one, and the so..."The bricks are being laid, one by one, and the solution for the Bar patrons is to call me an anti-semite, when I love the sound of Arabic, along with all the other semitic languages".<BR/><BR/>oh, wah, dr. this sounds pathetic. so you share the opinion of O that the arabic is beautiful sounding, definately nothing to brag about. you've been part of laying the mortar. I do agree with you that if O does not fix the economy than the 70% of the american jews that voted for him to do this will have made the greatest mistake in thier history in this country.slimslowsliderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14346116246550039401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-44894858273700871092009-02-24T02:49:00.000-05:002009-02-24T02:49:00.000-05:00Seems others had noticed the US policy shift, as w...Seems others had noticed the US policy shift, as well ...<BR/><BR/><I><B> Obama's Durban Gambit</B></I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/obamas_durban_gambit.html" REL="nofollow">By Caroline Glick</A><BR/><BR/><I>the Palestinian delegation proposed that a paragraph be added to the conference's agenda. Their draft "calls for implementation of... the advisory opinion of the ICJ [International Court of Justice] on the wall, [i.e., Israel's security fence], and the international protection of Palestinian people throughout the occupied Palestinian territory." <BR/><BR/><B>The American delegation raised no objection to the Palestinian draft. </B><BR/><BR/>Issued in 2004, the ICJ's advisory opinion on the security fence claimed that Israel has no right to self-defense against Palestinian terrorism. At the time, both the US and Israel rejected the ICJ's authority to issue an opinion on the subject. <BR/><BR/>On Thursday, by not objecting to this Palestinian draft, not only did the US effectively accept the ICJ's authority ...</I>desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-65915137105093771312009-02-24T02:42:00.000-05:002009-02-24T02:42:00.000-05:00China’s dollar dilemmaBy Geoff Dyer in Beijing Chi...<I><B>China’s dollar dilemma</B></I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/299e404c-011b-11de-8f6e-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1" REL="nofollow">By Geoff Dyer in Beijing</A> <BR/><BR/><I>China’s near $2,000bn (£1,380bn, €1,560bn) in reserves, the world’s largest, are often viewed outside the country as a great strength – an insurance policy against economic turbulence. But within China, they are increasingly seen by the public and even some policymakers as something of an albatross – a huge pool of resources not being used at home that will plunge in value if the US dollar collapses. Why, people ask, should such a relatively poor country bankroll such a rich one?<BR/><BR/>Even at the elite level, the sense of frustration occasionally bubbles over. “We hate you guys,” Luo Ping, a director-general at the China Banking Regulatory Commission (CBRC), complained last week on a visit to New York. “Once you start issuing $1-$2 trillion ... we know the dollar is going to depreciate, so we hate you guys, but there is nothing much we can do.”<BR/><BR/>As China’s economy slows sharply, the debate on how to manage its reserves is intensifying. Some propose spending the money at home; others want more diversification of investments. But the consensus behind recycling foreign currency into US government securities is coming under attack</I>desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-68820255145220002412009-02-24T02:35:00.000-05:002009-02-24T02:35:00.000-05:00RCPNew National PollsPresident Obama Job Approval:...RCP<BR/><BR/><I>New National Polls<BR/>President Obama Job Approval: ABC/WP at 68%, <BR/>CBS/NYT at 63%</I>desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-49633139273240803022009-02-24T02:31:00.000-05:002009-02-24T02:31:00.000-05:00Double Defense spending so that President Obama ca...Double Defense spending so that President Obama can follow the SOP and impose the Conflict Resolution Standard upon the Israeli?<BR/><BR/>The bricks are being laid, one by one, and the solution for the Bar patrons is to call me an anti-semite, when I love the sound of Arabic, along with all the other semitic languages.<BR/><BR/>Done in by a 19th century German propagandist, the Jewish folks let their enemies define the terms of the debate. Actually embrace the propaganda of their enemies. <BR/><BR/>In any case, there has been a sea change in US policy, as predicted.<BR/><BR/><B><I>The Obama Administration Sacrifices Israel</I></B><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/22/obama-israel-holocaust-durban-opinions-contributors_united_nations.html" REL="nofollow">by Anne Bayefsky</A><BR/><I><BR/>... inserting a new paragraph under the heading "Identification of further concrete measures and initiatives ... for combating and eliminating all manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance..." with the subtitle "General provisions on victims ... of discrimination." The paragraph includes: "Calls for ... the international protection of the Palestinian people throughout the occupied Palestinian territory." In other words, it claims that the Palestinian people are victims of Israeli racism and demands that all U.N. states provide protection from the affronts of the racist Jewish state. </I>desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-55203720706989886422009-02-24T02:28:00.000-05:002009-02-24T02:28:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-62756721155574567692009-02-24T01:54:00.000-05:002009-02-24T01:54:00.000-05:00The State of Hawaii does not maintain "vault copie...The State of Hawaii does not maintain "vault copies" of birth certificates. They keep all the data in bytes, and pieces.<BR/><BR/>Every copy they print is a little bit different than the last, it seems.desert rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369546288659566961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-67024099980918589312009-02-24T01:36:00.000-05:002009-02-24T01:36:00.000-05:00Life In Hawaii Permanently Damages Residents, New ...Life In Hawaii Permanently Damages Residents, New Study Says<BR/><BR/>AP--2/21/2009--A new study by an international group of scientists, Scientists For Physical and Geophysical Responsibility, finds island life leads to malaise and a decline in initiative.<BR/><BR/>The scientists studied seven groups of islanders from around the world and compared them to a control group of mainlanders.<BR/><BR/>The groups were tracked for initiative, originality, perseverance and a number of other traits....<BR/><BR/>"Basically, what we found was these islanders get so they just want to sit around and pound drums and eat fruit, and have sex", the report concluded. "Some take up blogging. We suspect diet has a large influence, but have yet to establish a direct cause and effect relationship there. We do know the overall outline of our findings are sound". He added, "Australians seem immune to these phenomenon, presumably because of the size of the place. Australians do have a lot of sex, though."<BR/><BR/>from New Century ScientistBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-63630474376381686732009-02-24T01:32:00.000-05:002009-02-24T01:32:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-21731355728849595602009-02-24T01:18:00.000-05:002009-02-24T01:18:00.000-05:00Soldier Says Obama Is A Fraud, Refuses Orders<A HREF="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89837" REL="nofollow">Soldier Says Obama Is A Fraud, Refuses Orders</A>Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-84380804253394548522009-02-24T01:09:00.000-05:002009-02-24T01:09:00.000-05:00The real cause of the financial crisis, and the re...<B>The real cause of the financial crisis, and the real solution</B><BR/>-- An MIT Blackjack Team perspective<BR/><BR/>The mathematics of probability that govern the trade-offs of risk and reward are fundamentally counter-intuitive.<BR/><BR/>The reason that societies ban pyramid schemes outright, instead of relying on the market to make them unprofitable, is that most people trust their intuition, and their intuition leads them astray. If you were to wait for the market to run its course on a pyramid scheme, the losses could devastate a whole country, as Albanians found out a few years ago.<BR/><BR/>In our days of outwitting casinos around the world, we have come across many people who thought that they also had a great system, but were in fact compulsive gamblers who eventually lost everything. Among the false systems that intuitively feel right, there is none as insidious and deadly as the Martingale, where a player doubles his bet after every loss.<BR/><BR/>The Martingale system works as follows: suppose you need an extra $100. You go down to your nearest casino, and bet $100 on a hand of blackjack, or on any other almost 50/50 proposition. Should you win right away, you have reached your goal and gotten your money. Now if you lose, you bet $200. If you win the second bet, you're up $100 over all and once again successful. But a little more than one out of four times you'll lose both, and end up down $300. In that event you simply bet $400. If you lose again you bet $800, and you just keep doubling your bet until you win once. Clearly you have to win at least once eventually, and with this system you end up with your $100 profit even if you start out losing for a while. If you're willing to bet up to ten times for instance, your chance of losing all ten bets is close to one in a thousand. That means that with a probability of almost 99.9%, you will win one of those ten bets, and therefore walk away with your $100.<BR/><BR/>Of course there's a catch that few people notice. When the unlikely one in a thousand event happens and you do lose ten in a row, the actual amount that you've lost is over $100,000, all risked to win a mere hundred bucks. You might not have any way of doubling up again. You might even need some sort of bailout.<BR/><BR/>In the world of investments, there are many ways more subtle than the Martingale to guarantee a better return over a period of months, years, and even decades, at the cost of certain ruin way down the road. Let's say for instance that you're managing a hedge fund which invests in stocks. Your strategy of sound fundamental analysis is fairly well understood. You have found that you can generate an average return of 6% per year, and so can most of your equally qualified competitors who have access to the same talent pool and knowledge base as you do. But then one of your competitors realizes that he can automatically increase his return to 9% by selling something called "out of the money puts" on the market. This means that the competitor's fund essentially sells insurance against the market crashing dramatically. In normal times his fund will gain the premium from selling this insurance which boosts his returns. However, in the rare event of an extreme market crash his investors will lose everything. This form of Martingale can be easily tuned to work for various time periods with various chances of collapse.<BR/><BR/>When investors see a fund manager generate a higher return that his competitors, they will move their money into that fund and out of the other ones. And money managers are rewarded based on the size of their fund, or the level of returns. The managers do not risk their own money. If they can provide a bigger gain for a few years, they win everything. They might even be lucky enough to be retired by the time their investors are paying the piper. The managers who have the discipline to understand and avoid the Martingale tricks will not be able to compete on the basis of their returns over a few years, and will eventually lose their funds and their jobs.<BR/><BR/>But many people managing large funds are men and women of integrity. They will not willingly expose their investors to total loss in order to line their own pockets with cash. Yet the system as it presently works does not allow them to compete without some kind of trade-off of long term risk versus short term reward. The solution that they usually flock to is to create such a complex Martingale system that they themselves cannot understand the longer term risk implications. As long as the mathematical analysis of the risk of ruin lies beyond the understanding of the CEOs, the money managing organizations can stay competitive by employing their latest version of a return-boosting Martingale, without admitting to themselves or to others that they have been peer-pressured into the financial equivalent of selling their soul to the Devil.<BR/><BR/>In the 80's the emerging Martingales were called junk bonds and LBO's. In more recent times they are known as mortgage backed securities and<BR/>credit default swaps. You can regulate mortgages half to death and try to control what kind of risks various kinds of investment organizations are legally allowed to take. You can even forbid short selling and ban golden parachutes. But as long as managers are paid a percentage for managing other people's money, they will compete with each other based on the returns they appear to generate. The pressure to create out-sized returns will eventually force them to invent the latest complex scheme which will have the same effect: eventually the investors lose it all. Complex financial structures will once again emerge that even the best professional investors cannot fully understand. People will always move their money into the places that give the best return over a few years, no matter how many times they are warned with the disclaimer that "past performance is no indication of future returns." And eventually the crisis that results will reach global dimensions beyond the means of a government bailout, especially if part of the risk managing strategy becomes counting on bailouts happening every decade or so.<BR/><BR/>The only solution is to forbid money management as we know it. We could certainly have people like Warren Buffet manage investors' money<BR/>alongside their own, with no additional percent-based compensation beyond their own investment gains. But we must remove the incentive to create Martingales, and protect people from their own intuitive desire to move their money into the funds which generate out-sized returns, without understanding the long term risks which create them.<BR/><BR/>In our globalized free market world, almost everyone is ultimately an investor, whether by owning a house or merely holding a job in a company which depends on access to capital. The scope of the current bailout has reached the point of real danger. We must fix the underlying problem before doubling down again as a society, or risk going the way of Albania.<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://semyondukach.blogspot.com/2009/01/real-cause-of-financial-crisis.html<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://snipurl.com/cjdhvAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-91371564363152985752009-02-23T23:38:00.000-05:002009-02-23T23:38:00.000-05:00Hey, Great find on that cult article!(shakes head,...Hey, Great find on that cult article!<BR/><BR/>(shakes head, wonders if al-bob's gone into alz-heimer vilLe PERMANENTLY)Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-7704137185013439412009-02-23T22:56:00.000-05:002009-02-23T22:56:00.000-05:00The Abyss Stares Backfrom Clusterfuck Nation by ja...<B>The Abyss Stares Back</B><BR/>from Clusterfuck Nation by james howard kunstler<BR/><BR/> The public perception of the ongoing fiasco in governance has moved from sheer, mute incomprehension to goggle-eyed panic as the scrims of unreality peel away revealing something like a national death-watch scene in history's intensive care unit. Is the USA in recession, depression, or collapse? People are at least beginning to ask. Nature's way of hinting that something truly creepy may be up is when both Paul Volcker and George Soros both declare on the same day that the economic landscape is looking darker than the Great Depression.<BR/> Those tuned into the media-waves were enchanted, in a related instance, by Rick Santelli's grand moment of theater in the Chicago trader's pit last week when he seemed to ignite the first spark of revolution by demonstrating that bail-out fatigue had morphed into high emotion -- and that the emotion could be marshaled against public policy. The traders in the pit on-screen seemed to color up and buzz loudly, like ordinary grasshoppers turning into angry locusts preparing to ravage a waiting valley. "Are you listening, President Obama?" Mr. Santelli asked portentously.<BR/> In the broad blogging margins of the web that orbit the mainstream media like the rings of Saturn, an awful lot of reasonable people have begun to ask whether President Obama is a stooge of whatever remains of Wall Street, with Citigroup and Goldman Sachs's puppeteer, Robert Rubin, pulling strings behind an arras in the Oval Office. Personally, I doubt it, but it is still a little hard to understand what the President is up to. For one thing, the stimulus package, so-called, looks more and more like national sub-prime mortgage itself, a bad bargain made under less-than-realistic terms, with future obligations fobbed onto whoever inhabits this corner of the world for the next seven hundred years -- and all to pay for a bunch of granite counter-tops and flat-screen TVs.<BR/> I suppose Mr. Obama is burdened with the knowledge that the economic truth is so much worse than he imagined back in November that there is simply nothing to do at this point except pretend to serve up a "tasting menu" of rescue plans in the hope that markets and mechanisms might be conned back into compliance with our wish keep getting something-for-nothing forever. FDR already used the fear of fear itself trope, so Mr. O is left with little more than displaying pluck and confidence in the face of overwhelming bad news.<BR/> The sad truth is that banking has become a Chinese fire drill -- a frantic act of futility -- as insolvent companies persist in covering up their losses in order to avoid the counter-party hell of credit default swaps that would ring the world's "game over" bell. This can only go on so long. All the chatter about "nationalizing" the banks really boils down to what kind of bankruptcy work-out will they be put through, how destructive will the process be, and how much of the pain can be shoved forward in time to people now in diapers and their descendants.<BR/> Among the questions that disturb the sleep of many casual observers is how come Mr. O doesn't get that the conventional process of economic growth -- based, as it was, on industrial expansion via revolving credit in a cheap-energy-resource era -- is over, and why does he keep invoking it at the podium? Dear Mr. President, you are presiding over an epochal contraction, not a pause in the growth epic. Your assignment is to manage that contraction in a way that does not lead to world war, civil disorder or both. Among other things, contraction means that all the activities of everyday life need to be downscaled including standards of living, ranges of commerce, and levels of governance. "Consumerism" is dead. Revolving credit is dead -- at least at the scale that became normal the last thirty years. The wealth of several future generations has already been spent and there is no equity left there to re-finance.<BR/> If contraction and downscaling are indeed the case, then the better question is: why don't we get started on it right away instead of flogging rescue plans to restart something that is DOA? Downscaling the price of over-priced houses would be a good place to start. This gets to the heart of Rick Santelli's crowd-stirring moment. Let the chumps and weasels who over-reached take their lumps and move into rentals. Let the bankers who parlayed these fraudulent mortgages into investment swindles lose their jobs, surrender their perqs, and maybe even go to jail (if attorney general Eric Holder can be induced to investigate their deeds). No good will come of propping up the false values of mis-priced things.<BR/> No good, in fact, will come of a campaign to sustain the unsustainable, which is exactly what the Obama program is starting to look like. In the folder marked "unsustainable" you can file most of the artifacts, usufructs, habits, and expectations of recent American life: suburban living, credit-card spending, Happy Motoring, vacations in Las Vegas, college education for the masses, and cheap food among them. All these things are over. The public may suspect as much, but they can't admit it to themselves, and political leadership has so far declined to speak the truth about it for them -- in short, to form a useful consensus that will allow us to move forward effectively. One of the sad paradoxes of politics is that democracies do not seem very good at disciplining their citizens' behavior. The wish to please voters and the influence of campaign money overwhelm even leaders with mature instincts. In America's case, this could lead to what I like to call corn-pone Naziism a few years down the road. Someone will design snazzy uniforms and get us all marching around to "God Bless America." At the point of a gun.<BR/> It's not too late for President Obama to start uttering these truths so that we can avoid a turn to fascism and get on with the real business of America's next phase of history -- living locally, working hard at things that matter, and preserving civilized culture. What a lot of us can see now staring out of the abyss is a new dark age. I don't think it's necessarily our destiny to end up that way, but these days we're not doing much to avoid it.<BR/>==<BR/><BR/>Because it's Monday!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-85916517567651713842009-02-23T22:46:00.002-05:002009-02-23T22:46:00.002-05:00About the $.About the $.samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-44992683091742853842009-02-23T22:46:00.001-05:002009-02-23T22:46:00.001-05:00rogerrogersamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-73920006050292012272009-02-23T22:46:00.000-05:002009-02-23T22:46:00.000-05:00No we don't. If we did, Japan and Germany wouldn't...No we don't. If we did, Japan and Germany wouldn't have been rebuilt. Etc etc etc and etc and many other examples. We would have waltzed into many a place, made beach hotels for our masses. Owned whole countries. Instead Castro is still snubbing his nose at us. Lately in our hemisphere we've invaded--Grenada.<BR/><BR/>Mon Feb 23, 10:22:00 PM EST<BR/><BR/>Apparently our own hemisphere isn't a particularly compelling destination. Though there was Operation Just Cuz. And that little affair in the Hondo, among other extracurriculars for which there are no nifty t-shirts.<BR/><BR/>Additionally, rebuilding and supreme warlording are not mutually exclusive activities.<BR/><BR/>But...your protest proves Healy's point.trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-11553693279562486852009-02-23T22:43:00.000-05:002009-02-23T22:43:00.000-05:00Glad to help, Sam. You need to use the dollar sign...Glad to help, Sam. You need to use the dollar sign when charting indexes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-89736889856159038812009-02-23T22:40:00.000-05:002009-02-23T22:40:00.000-05:00If we have a value 'Mat greater than 1', watch out...If we have a value 'Mat greater than 1', watch out. My reading indicates an explosion is imminent.:)<BR/>==<BR/><BR/>That's very prescient, Bob. That's me and me cockroach in me head. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-3256847570843967942009-02-23T22:37:00.000-05:002009-02-23T22:37:00.000-05:00Thanks.Thanks.samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-56272522483091216592009-02-23T22:36:00.000-05:002009-02-23T22:36:00.000-05:00Sam,http://ca.quote.com/us/stocks/chart.action?s=$...Sam,<BR/><BR/>http://ca.quote.com/us/stocks/chart.action?s=$TRINAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132252460964519368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-15369084863316772502009-02-23T22:23:00.000-05:002009-02-23T22:23:00.000-05:00We had a brief period of colonialism after the Spa...We had a brief period of colonialism after the Spanish and that's about it.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-58722025032484241132009-02-23T22:22:00.000-05:002009-02-23T22:22:00.000-05:00No we don't. If we did, Japan and Germany wouldn't...No we don't. If we did, Japan and Germany wouldn't have been rebuilt. Etc etc etc and etc and many other examples. We would have waltzed into many a place, made beach hotels for our masses. Owned whole countries. Instead Castro is still snubbing his nose at us. Lately in our hemisphere we've invaded--Grenada.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-82692576464735070232009-02-23T22:21:00.001-05:002009-02-23T22:21:00.001-05:00Mat,Please shoot me a link where I can follow the ...Mat,<BR/><BR/>Please shoot me a link where I can follow the TRIN. Can't seem to find one anywhere.samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-70061472362906100982009-02-23T22:21:00.000-05:002009-02-23T22:21:00.000-05:00And can I get a very low B1 flyover with that?Foll...And can I get a very low B1 flyover with that?<BR/><BR/>Followed by an Apache swarm?trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139410627244875589noreply@blogger.com