tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post3594209417019820751..comments2024-03-28T06:32:24.557-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: The final debate: Romney, confident about the polls, decided that the election is about the economy and denied Obama his game strategy.Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-51352643919040874212012-10-23T20:35:20.198-04:002012-10-23T20:35:20.198-04:00Oregon is leaning Romney now. Frickin OREGON...Oregon is leaning Romney now. Frickin OREGON...Teresitahttp://www.cleanposts.com/index.php/Main_Pagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-105578525768294232012-10-23T19:03:52.646-04:002012-10-23T19:03:52.646-04:00Romney can't win Wisconsin. He can win the el...Romney can't win Wisconsin. He can win the election by hanging onto Fl, Va, and Co, and picking up Ohio.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42366627861372403602012-10-23T18:41:53.076-04:002012-10-23T18:41:53.076-04:00These debates, and the campaign has brought one ve...These debates, and the campaign has brought one very important fact to light, and that is that Obama is an immoral, corrupt and classes person, who does not deserve the office he holds.happyholsklnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-13752170073390343902012-10-23T18:35:45.522-04:002012-10-23T18:35:45.522-04:00Wisconsin and New Hampshire give Romney 271. I'...Wisconsin and New Hampshire give Romney 271. I'm beginning to think Nevada may be lost to Romney. it depends, so I read, on the Reno area. One wouldn't think the people in Nevada would want 'four more years'. Since everyone is nearly dead broke down there. Not that they don't deserve it. I can't believe Iowa would vote again for Obama. That leaves Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. I think Romney will pull out Ohio.<br /><br />Damn the Amish! The fuckin' slackers. They don't vote, but if they did they would vote for Romney. And might provide the margin of victory.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-43080254235320651042012-10-23T16:51:34.325-04:002012-10-23T16:51:34.325-04:00I doubt it, but it doesn't matter. NH ain...I doubt it, but it doesn't matter. NH ain't gonna stop no show.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-72096318169907672212012-10-23T16:50:17.665-04:002012-10-23T16:50:17.665-04:00If the election were held Today, Obama would win 2...If the election were held Today, Obama would win 281 Electoral Votes to Romney's 257. <br /><br />Romney would, however, due to a huge advantage in the Southern States, win the Popular Vote by a little less than 1%.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html" rel="nofollow">Realclear Politics</a>Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-88746491672786328962012-10-23T16:40:06.212-04:002012-10-23T16:40:06.212-04:00Romney is ahead in New Hampshire, Ruf, if you disr...Romney is ahead in New Hampshire, Ruf, if you disregard a really wild University of New Hampshire poll.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-30450506142503393882012-10-23T16:37:53.857-04:002012-10-23T16:37:53.857-04:00:) That might be the only sensible thing you'...:) That might be the only sensible thing you've said in months.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-44196110557717202302012-10-23T16:36:32.851-04:002012-10-23T16:36:32.851-04:00Dick agrees fully with BubblePlumbPolling, what ar...Dick agrees fully with BubblePlumbPolling, what are you bitching about now? BPP has been on the level in predicting a blow out all along, if you will recall. And the Pubs get the Senate too.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-48722777342517474292012-10-23T16:33:37.797-04:002012-10-23T16:33:37.797-04:00Then there is the Donald Trump bombshell due out t...Then there is the Donald Trump bombshell due out tomorrow. That should be good for a laugh, if nothing more.<br /><br />Things are getting interesting.<br /><br />Did you notice we even have Tweet Meters now? Some network I was watching showed the Tweet Meter. What an amazing innovation. We don't have real debates any longer, but contests to see who can move The Tweet Needle the most. Hardly anything of the nuts and bolts of an actual policy. Romney has a five point plan at least. Obama doesn't even have a policy at all, just wants more time. So it turns out this debate was about not scaring grandmothers and the soccer moms, so as not to disturb the Tweet Meter. Or the line approval graph. They had that too.<br /><br />Sometimes I think I'm watching a cartoon. Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-22218333304170591752012-10-23T16:32:13.261-04:002012-10-23T16:32:13.261-04:00In fact, if you'll just go here
Realclear Pol...In fact, if you'll just go here<br /><br /><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html" rel="nofollow">Realclear Politics Map</a><br /><br />and click on any of those states th old toe-sucker was talking about you'll get a somewhat different pictures.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-53988924063628722442012-10-23T16:27:54.442-04:002012-10-23T16:27:54.442-04:00Really?
Realclear Politics has it 50 - 45.2 Oba...<i>Really?</i><br /><br />Realclear Politics has it 50 - 45.2 ObamaRufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-48518234909583004392012-10-23T16:19:13.798-04:002012-10-23T16:19:13.798-04:00These polls look bleak too --
Pennsylvania Is the...These polls look bleak too --<br /><br /><i>Pennsylvania Is the New Ohio<br /><br />By Dick Morris - October 23, 2012<br /><br /><br />With Romney gaining ground gradually in the swing state of Ohio, people have not paid enough attention to his surge in next door Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania casts 20 electoral votes and Ohio casts 18. And all electoral votes are created equal. It is possible to lose Ohio if you carry Pennsylvania and still win.<br /><br />In Pennsylvania, polling by Republican John McLaughlin shows Romney three points ahead of Obama and a poll by The Susquehanna Polling organization shows Romney four points ahead in the Keystone State.<br /><br />In Ohio, most polls have the race tied although all show significant progress by Romney in the past two weeks.<br /><br />Why is Pennsylvania, nominally a more Democratic state, more hospitable to Romney than Ohio? Because Obama has run tens of millions of dollars of negative ads in Ohio smearing Romney, but has not done so in Pennsylvania. Indeed, current polling suggests a very good shot for Romney in a variety of usually Democratic states that are not on the official map of battleground states. Having been spared Obama’s negative ads, these states are very much more inclined to back Romney.<br /><br />• Latest polls in Michigan find Obama only one point ahead<br /><br />• In Wisconsin, the candidates appear to be tied<br /><br />• In Minnesota, Romney is only two points behind<br /><br />It may be that on Election Day, we are all waiting for Ohio to be called (eventually it will go for Romney) while, in the meantime, he sweeps Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota and wins the election.<br /><br />And don’t forget the impact of a Romney victory on the U.S. Senate races. In Pennsylvania, Republican Tom Smith now leads Democratic incumbent Bob Casey according to McLaughlin’s survey. In Wisconsin, former Governor and Republican candidate Tommy Thompson is locked in a close battle with Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin for an open Senate seat. And in Michigan, former Congressman Pete Hoekstra (Republican) is hot on the heels of Democratic incumbent Senator Debbie Stabenow.<br /><br />With Republican Senate takeaways increasingly likely in Virginia, Florida, Nebraska, North Dakota, Montana, and Ohio, victories in these other northern tier states could provide a needed cushion to assure control of the Senate (since Republicans will lose Maine and may lose Massachusetts). </i>Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-89310238740023058362012-10-23T16:14:28.725-04:002012-10-23T16:14:28.725-04:00I don't know if he was "looking" for...I don't know if he was "looking" for a fight, or just that he was "Expecting" a fight.<br /><br />I'm quite sure he wasn't expecting to meet the President of his Newest Fan Club. :)Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-66572606319938825022012-10-23T15:53:35.878-04:002012-10-23T15:53:35.878-04:00It was obvious to me that Obama was looking for a ...It was obvious to me that Obama was looking for a fight last night and didn’t get one. That tells me his internal polls must look bleak.Deuce ☂https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-46171915054179931902012-10-23T14:49:25.126-04:002012-10-23T14:49:25.126-04:00I just wonder if This has ever happened before?
G...I just wonder if This has ever happened before?<br /><br />Gallup has Romney up by 5, but has Obama's Job Approval at <b>51.</b><br /><br />And, Rasmussen has Romney up by 4, but has O's Job Approval at <b>50.</b><br /><br />Strange.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-18290733904956270412012-10-23T13:03:30.692-04:002012-10-23T13:03:30.692-04:00The Debate in Graphs
Wonkblog
Excellent.The Debate in Graphs<br /><br /><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/10/23/the-third-presidential-debate-in-graphs/" rel="nofollow">Wonkblog</a><br /><br /><br />Excellent.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42054656631473852482012-10-23T12:35:20.012-04:002012-10-23T12:35:20.012-04:00Another HUGE thing that was completely ignored was...Another HUGE thing that was completely ignored was when Obama said, "There Will Be No Sequestration!"<br /><br />THAT was "News."Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-50158738254037157762012-10-23T12:19:47.607-04:002012-10-23T12:19:47.607-04:00We, absolutely, Have to stop the erosion of jobs o...We, absolutely, Have to stop the erosion of jobs out of the country. And, we, absolutely, Have to get our people trained up for the factories of the future.<br /><br />The Rich are, absolutely, going to have to pay more taxes, and the poor, and middle class are, absolutely, going to have to pay more, at least in the short run, at Walmart.<br /><br />And, we, absolutely, have to come to grips with the impending oil crunch.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-27030101244497081932012-10-23T12:14:31.154-04:002012-10-23T12:14:31.154-04:00And, Brains.And, Brains.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-33556223433703713662012-10-23T12:12:45.005-04:002012-10-23T12:12:45.005-04:00.
It's a moot question anyway.
It's unli....<br /><br />It's a moot question anyway.<br /><br />It's unlikely anything major will change in the tax code except that it will get more complicated.<br /><br />Obama is doing what he can in pointing out that Romney is short on specifics as to how he will balance his budget.<br /><br />I would be extremely surprised if there is a major shift in seats in Congress. Even if the GOP took over the Senate (doubtful), with the current rules they could/would be severely restricted in the agenda they could introduce. It works the other way too.<br /><br />With regard to deductions, the following article points out the problem.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/04/tax-loopholes-gop_n_1940465.html" rel="nofollow">Whose Deductions to Cut?</a><br /><br />Many of the deductions we think of as benefitting primarily the middle class (charity, home interest, healthcare, retirement income, etc.) are actually regressive. Their major benefits accrue to the wealthy. I suspect you will find few on either side of the aisle that will be happy in cutting them.<br /><br />As for cutting goodies for corporations or interest groups, forget about it.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-51491840088790614062012-10-23T12:07:21.849-04:002012-10-23T12:07:21.849-04:00Last nights debate was on foreign policy, hence th...Last nights debate was on foreign policy, hence the discussion.<br /><br />As I have said numerous times, PAIN is the only thing that will get us back on track. Thru severe cuts. No sacred cows.MOMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307879234693014691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-90931594818078059082012-10-23T12:06:40.970-04:002012-10-23T12:06:40.970-04:00I've noticed that none of this seems to affect...I've noticed that none of this seems to affect the Amish very much.<br /><br />They will still be living in their well kept houses, tending their well groomed fields and gardens, minding their own business, whatever happens.<br /><br />Maybe they are onto something.<br /><br />Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-82070963061177816322012-10-23T11:53:44.543-04:002012-10-23T11:53:44.543-04:00Most people don't, really, give a whit about f...Most people don't, really, give a whit about foreign policy. They're getting killed by Falling Median Family Income, and Rising Gasoline Prices.<br /><br />Especially, the Falling Median Income. 10+ years of jobs leaving for China are starting to really take their toll. <br /><br />Anyone who thinks that we can turn this around without some really drastic action is a fool. Tinkering with the tax code won't get it done. We'll either slap serious tariffs on Chinese goods, and pay a little bit more at Walmart, or we'll, fairly rapidly, devolve into 3rd World Nation Status. Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-57912142902055983602012-10-23T11:50:14.901-04:002012-10-23T11:50:14.901-04:00Worse, we have the muslim brotherhood invited into...Worse, we have the muslim brotherhood invited into the White House by the dozen.<br /><br />We have a President who facilitated the coming of the muslim brotherhood to Egypt.<br /><br />Who said not a word when people were trying to rise up in Iran.<br /><br />Even verbal support of those people in Iran at the time might have done a lot of good, and if the government had been overthrown, it's possible it might have help solve the Iranian nuclear bomb issue too.<br /><br />A President who can't stand Israel.<br /><br />on and on....Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04145155737835511824noreply@blogger.com