tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post3374347094765746412..comments2024-03-29T05:30:32.626-04:00Comments on The Elephant Bar: NATO Disrupts LIbyan Missile Caches, Now in Hands of Who?Deuce ☂http://www.blogger.com/profile/13472858446242700869noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-25830261053852005832011-09-08T03:00:07.330-04:002011-09-08T03:00:07.330-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-86352074741944958962011-09-08T02:27:55.967-04:002011-09-08T02:27:55.967-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-60662471499753763632011-09-08T02:25:13.294-04:002011-09-08T02:25:13.294-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-6533190251204238502011-09-08T01:15:54.961-04:002011-09-08T01:15:54.961-04:00Seen that one already, Bob.Seen that one already, Bob.samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-135818796907718422011-09-08T00:58:38.477-04:002011-09-08T00:58:38.477-04:00Here You Go Sam
r<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tOadhqCYlg&NR=1" rel="nofollow">Here You Go Sam</a><br /><br />rAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-4894851857552782582011-09-08T00:53:59.959-04:002011-09-08T00:53:59.959-04:00Man in Box<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2tURwTNpPQ" rel="nofollow">Man in Box</a>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-38391453710422014832011-09-08T00:51:19.991-04:002011-09-08T00:51:19.991-04:00All eyes were on Romney and Perry, who have separa...<i>All eyes were on Romney and Perry, who have separated themselves from the rest of the pack in national polling. While the two have occasionally sniped at one another on the campaign trail, Wednesday night's forum was the first to showcase the two men on the same stage.<br /><br />On the trail, Romney, a former CEO of Bain Capital who served as governor of Massachusetts from 2003-2007, has touted his experience in the private sector and bemoaned "career politicians." Perry, for his part, has trumpeted his record of job creation in the Lone Star State -- the best in the nation -- while targeting Romney's less-than-stellar jobs resume during his tenure as governor.<br /><br />Perry currently leads Romney 29 percent to 18 percent, according to the RealClearPolitics average of recent national polls. He also leads in the important early states of Iowa, South Carolina and Nevada, while Romney tops polls in New Hampshire and Florida.</i>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-30828120852644732812011-09-08T00:37:07.189-04:002011-09-08T00:37:07.189-04:00Saying anything it takes not to get elected.
rSaying anything it takes not to get elected.<br /><br />rAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-15898514852646629382011-09-08T00:27:09.316-04:002011-09-08T00:27:09.316-04:00Perry doubled-down on his "Social Security is...Perry doubled-down on his "Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme" narrative.<br /><br />So long, Ricky; we hardly knew ye.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-70745759843428362492011-09-08T00:14:43.397-04:002011-09-08T00:14:43.397-04:00When clowns actually read, say, 1/2 the data compi...When clowns actually read, say, 1/2 the data compiled by honorable military memebers numbering in the hundreds, they may have some right to question the results. Simply holding one's breath until one turns blue is not rational debate and it is not considered. Grow up<br /><br />Israel 13<br /><br />Nutters 0allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-1234074518719955572011-09-07T23:32:58.890-04:002011-09-07T23:32:58.890-04:00.
There are those who complain that 2400 pages of....<br /><br />There are those who complain that 2400 pages of data from the U.S.S. Liberty incident were released by the government in 2007 and that 'quantity' of data should be enough to convince anyone of Israel's innocence.<br /><br />When the "quality" or "completeness" of the information released is questioned or anyone questions the fact that FOIA requests were ignored or denied, we are told that that anyone is merely a conspiracy theorist or part of the worldwide anti-semitic movement. Almost as if they were part of a 'conspiracy' against Israel.<br /><br />Considering the number of people who are doing the questioning, including the military officers, politicians, statesmen, ambassadors, spooks, people who on any other subject would be considered "friends of Israel", the crew of the Liberty including Jewish crewmen and officers, authors, columnists, documentaries, et all,...it would have to be a "giant" conspiracy.<br /><br />But, here is another view from a newspaper article published at the time of the last government info dump in 2007. It's pretty long but quite interesting.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/eedition/chi-liberty_tuesoct02,0,43090.story?page=1" rel="nofollow">Garbage In Garbage Out</a><br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-82025621143954969222011-09-07T23:15:45.171-04:002011-09-07T23:15:45.171-04:00No More, Burned Yesterday
Have shipped grain on t...<a href="http://www.digitalartsphotography.com/idaho_pictures/winchestergraderailroadtrestle.htm" rel="nofollow">No More, Burned Yesterday</a><br /><br />Have shipped grain on that railroad, sure put up the black smoke.<br /><br /><br />rAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-43350186163105161992011-09-07T23:14:29.148-04:002011-09-07T23:14:29.148-04:00Did Perry get beat up any?Did Perry get beat up any?Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-32156315858971658802011-09-07T23:13:19.258-04:002011-09-07T23:13:19.258-04:00Wow, Sam, I just got through Part: 1. That is a G...Wow, Sam, I just got through Part: 1. That is a Great look at U.S. History. (sometimes I think the author conflates planning with "luck, and happenstance," but what the hell. :)<br /><br />It's still a great piece of looking at History from an angle I hadn't before considered - the extreme importance of linking, navigable, waterways.<br /><br />I'm going to take a break, and go on to part deux.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-28400164231568142812011-09-07T23:12:54.426-04:002011-09-07T23:12:54.426-04:00Newt has completely lost his mind. Gov. Big Hair a...Newt has completely lost his mind. Gov. Big Hair and Mitt going at it was funny. I will call that one a draw. Ron Paul, as usual, is the most honest of the bunch. But he is also the craziest.<br /><br />Herman is doing like Moses Malone with his 9-9-9- tax plan. :)<br /><br />I think Huntsman is my favorite republicant.lolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-72165720666165915592011-09-07T22:37:01.457-04:002011-09-07T22:37:01.457-04:00desert rat said...
Ignorance is bliss
allen, a t...desert rat said... <br />Ignorance is bliss<br /><br />allen, a truly happy man.<br /><br />Wed Sep 07, 08:54:00 PM EDT<br /><br /><br />Gosh, what am I to say and still maintain the semblance of modesty?<br />I am blissful, DR, because the overwhelming majority of Americans do not agree with either you or your pals. Wow! That felt sooooo goooood! Read the polls and weep.<br /><br />DR, on occasion I have disagreed with a one-time friend. He is sincere, if sometimes mistaken. You are merely a fraud. You do hate what both America and Israel stand for. Were it not for blatant anti-Semitism, you would have been run out of Dodge long ago and this site would have been one of the best on the net. Happy now?allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-22446302361855255782011-09-07T22:30:03.980-04:002011-09-07T22:30:03.980-04:00DR,
Good try, but no cigar! Americans by huge maj...DR,<br /><br />Good try, but no cigar! Americans by huge majorities prefer Israel to ANY Arabian/Muslim state. You will either have to live with the pain or leave off :-) <br /><br />I would like to say sorry, DR, but your back is against the wall of logic and I love it.allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798524644256471907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-42430223211609255492011-09-07T21:44:42.926-04:002011-09-07T21:44:42.926-04:00Three hits in a row for Sam.
rThree hits in a row for Sam.<br /><br />rAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-37791140108110494412011-09-07T21:22:40.077-04:002011-09-07T21:22:40.077-04:00The coverage leading up to the debate — including ...<i>The coverage leading up to the debate — including in this space — has focused almost entirely on Perry’s relative dearth of debating experience. And, to the extent that the stories have analyzed the debating Perry has done, they’ve portrayed him as a mediocre debater who rarely shines but also infrequently scuffles.<br /><br />...<br /><br />Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney has sailed through the first two debates of the primary season — we declared him a “winner” after each one — thanks to a disciplined message focused on President Obama and a commitment to avoiding the barbs directed at him by his Republican opponents. But, coasting is no longer an option for Romney due to Perry’s rise. <br /><br />...<br /><br />Judging by the new polls from the Washington Post/ABC News and NBC/ Wall Street Journal, it’s Texas Rep. Ron Paul not Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann who is sitting in third place at the moment.</i>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-5593696234713925312011-09-07T21:12:36.598-04:002011-09-07T21:12:36.598-04:00Jewish Wedding<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NF3OWNJgYw" rel="nofollow">Jewish Wedding</a>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-81044023340071823722011-09-07T21:08:39.203-04:002011-09-07T21:08:39.203-04:00SIMPLE TRUTH 2:
When a lady is pregnant, all her f...<i>SIMPLE TRUTH 2:<br />When a lady is pregnant, all her friends touch the stomach and saying "congrats". But, none of them come and touch the man's penis and say "Good job".<br /><br />Moral of the story:<br />"Hard work is never appreciated”</i>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-76000050178515687912011-09-07T21:07:08.428-04:002011-09-07T21:07:08.428-04:002 Simple Truths:
SIMPLE TRUTH 1:
Partners help ea...2 Simple Truths:<br /><br /><i>SIMPLE TRUTH 1:<br />Partners help each other undress before sex. However after sex, they always dress on their own.<br /><br />Moral of the story:<br />In life, no one helps you once you're screwed.</i>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-24835401827567488152011-09-07T21:04:53.091-04:002011-09-07T21:04:53.091-04:00.
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The 13 Investigations (cont'd)
8. House....<br /><br />.<br /><br />The 13 Investigations (cont'd)<br /><br />8. House Appropriations Committee meeting of April and May 1968: This was a budget committee meeting which explored the issue of lost messages intended for the ship. It was not an investigation and reported no conclusions concerning the attack, as alleged by Mr. Cristol.<br /> <br />9. House Armed Services Committee Review of Communications, May 1971: Liberty communications were discussed along with other communications failures. The committee reported no conclusions concerning the attack, as alleged by Mr. Cristol. <br /><br />10. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, 1979/1981: Mr. Cristol claims that the committee investigated the attack and exonerated Israel, yet he has been unable to provide minutes, a report or other evidence of such an investigation. Rules of the select committee require that any committee investigation be followed by a report. There is no report of such an investigation; ergo, there was no such investigation.<br /> <br />11. National Security Agency Report, 1981: Upon the publication in 1980 of "Assault on the Liberty" by James Ennes, the National Security Agency completed a detailed account of the attack. The report drew no conclusions, although its authors did note that the deputy director dismissed the Israeli excuse (the Yerushalmi report) as "a nice whitewash." The report did not exonerate Israel, as claimed by Mr. Cristol.<br /> <br />12. State of Israel-Israel Defense Force History Department report of June 1982: This Israeli government report was a reaction to a published report by Sen. Adlai Stevenson III that he believed the attack to be deliberate and hoped to provide a forum for survivors to tell their story. It was primarily a summary of the Ram Ron and Yerushalmi reports. The Stevenson forum, which was the impetus for the report, was never held. The report supports the official Israeli position that the attack was a tragic accident.<br /> <br />13. House Armed Services Committee investigation of 1991/1992: Though cited by Mr. Cristol as an investigation which exonerates Israel, the U.S. government reports no record of such an investigation. Cristol claims that the investigation resulted from a letter to Rep. Nicholas Mavroules from Joe Meadors, then-president of the USS Liberty Veterans Association, seeking Mavroules' support. Instead of responding to Liberty veterans, however, Congressman Mavroules referred the matter to Mr. Cristol for advice. Survivors heard nothing further. Meadors' letter was never answered. The U.S. government reports that there has been no such investigation. <br /><br /><br />The primary report rushed and the conclusion predetermined. Three self-serving Israeli reports. A number completed within days or weeks of the inident and building off the initial flawed investications. Others misrepresented. Others apparently never happened.<br /><br />FUBAR<br /><br />Garbage in, garbage out.<br /><br />13 X 0 = 0<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-77991287850889518242011-09-07T21:04:04.058-04:002011-09-07T21:04:04.058-04:00Compounding the issues for Romney in the new poll ...<i>Compounding the issues for Romney in the new poll is that fewer of his supporters now back him “strongly.” In July, 29 percent of Romney supporters were strongly behind him; now that has slipped to 15 percent.<br /><br />...<br /><br />Following Perry’s entry, more Republicans say they are satisfied with their candidate choices. In the spring, fewer than half of Republicans said they were satisfied.<br /><br />That jumped up in July, and in the new poll, nearly two-thirds say they are at least somewhat satisfied.</i>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-7850635999043899542011-09-07T21:03:52.405-04:002011-09-07T21:03:52.405-04:00.
The 13 Investigations (continued):
2. Israeli ....<br /><br />The 13 Investigations (continued):<br /><br />2. Israeli government investigations: The Ram Ron and Yerushalmi reports of 1967 were not investigations. Both were elements of an Israeli process to determine whether anyone in Israel should be tried for a crime. That the attack itself was an accident was a given. Both hearings officers determined that no one in Israel did anything wrong, and that the USS Liberty was partly responsible, for a number of contrived reasons, such as "failure to fly a flag" and "trying to hide" -- which the Navy Court of Inquiry found to be untrue.<br /> <br />3. The Joint Chiefs of Staff Report of June 1967: This was an inquiry into the mishandling of several messages intended for the ship. It was not an investigation into the attack. It did not exonerate Israel, because it did not in any way consider the question of culpability. <br /><br />4. CIA report of June 13, 1967: This interim report, completed five days after the attack, reported "our best judgment [is] that the attack... was a mistake." No investigation was conducted, and no first-hand evidence was collected. Then-CIA Director Richard Helms concluded and later reported in his autobiography that the attack was planned and deliberate -- a fact ignored by Mr. Cristol.<br /> <br />5. Clark Clifford report of July 18, 1967: Clark Clifford was directed by Lyndon Johnson to review the Court of Inquiry report and the interim CIA report and "not to make an independent inquiry." His was merely a summary of other fallacious reports, not an "investigation" as alleged by Mr. Cristol. The report reached no conclusions and did not exonerate Israel, as Mr. Cristol also claimed. On the contrary, Clifford wrote later that he regarded the attack as deliberate -- a fact ignored by Mr. Cristol.<br /> <br />6. and 7. Two Senate Investigations: The Committee on Foreign Relations meeting of 1967 and Senate Armed Services Committee meeting of 1968 were hearings on unrelated matters which clearly skeptical members used to castigate representatives of the administration under oath before them. Typical questions were, "Why can't we get the truth about this?" They were not "investigations" at all, but budget hearings, and reported no conclusions concerning the attack. They did not exonerate Israel, as claimed by Mr. Cristol.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.com