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Quirk said...
"Again, I disagree with you....<br /><br /><i>Quirk said...<br /><br />"Again, I disagree with you. The curriculem should be constricted in Michigan with emphasis on classes that offer a kid a chance to get a job."</i><br /><br />Where in this statement, Ash, did you the impression I was saying kids should be taught "...to operate a fork lift, or a cash register, or a tool and die lathe, or to program a robot for the auto assembly line...?"<br /><br />A skill can be defined as proficiency gained through training or practice. It can describe physical proficiency or a degree of knowledge. The following two sentences are valid.<br /><br />"He is a skilled carpenter." <br /><br />"He has aquired the math, reading, and reasoning skills to assure he has the basic prerequisites for that job."<br /><br />I'm sorry you have such a restricted view of the word skill. Or perhaps, mine is a dated definition of the word skill.<br /><br />Either way, my meaning should have been clear to you from my response to your first post. Secondly, you, me, and Rufus had this discussion a couple of weeks ago and you and I were in agreement. I would have thought you'd have remembered it. <br /><br /><br />However, <br /><br />Ash said...<br /><br /><i>No, you don't, or you more importantly, you shouldn't be taught, specific job skills in k-12 school.</i><br /><br /><br />Here I have to agree with Ruf.<br /><br />K-12 schooling should be focused on the courses required to provide a foundation that will allow a student to either be prepared for further more advance training or to be fully prepared and proficient with skills (knowledge if you like, reading, math, etc.) to enter the job market.<br /><br />That being said, not everyone will necessarily go on to college. There is a place for courses that teach occupational skills like body shop and auto repair, and also for the IT training Rufus is lobbying for.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-34051649567623533432011-10-17T22:56:23.127-04:002011-10-17T22:56:23.127-04:00An Egyptian security official said that an America...<i>An Egyptian security official said that an American-Israeli dual national held since June in Egypt on suspicions of espionage would also be released shortly after the swap. Ilan Grapel will be released by Egypt in return for about 70 Egyptian prisoners, most serving sentences in Israel on charges of smuggling or illegal entry, the official said.<br /><br />Israel has denied that Grapel, a law student who was traveling under his own name and whose connections to Israel were easily apparent on his Facebook page, was a spy.<br /><br />The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media on the matter. He would not give a precise time for Grapel's release, and Israeli officials would not comment.</i>samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11856051164644278989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-77673656040276339402011-10-17T22:10:29.615-04:002011-10-17T22:10:29.615-04:00Millions of American boys have taken the skills le...Millions of American boys have taken the skills learned in Auto Repair, Body shop, Woodworking, etc, and built solid middleclass lives.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-20053110506238142552011-10-17T21:24:08.175-04:002011-10-17T21:24:08.175-04:00Sadly Quirk I think you are misinformed about the ...Sadly Quirk I think you are misinformed about the role of education in life and job seeking.<br /><br />No, you don't, or you more importantly, you shouldn't be taught, specific job skills in k-12 school. Heck, even in University it isn't "job training" unless you are in Medical school, engineering or other professional academic programs.<br /><br />No, school is to learn, and to learn how to learn. You don't learn to operate a fork lift, or a cash register, or a tool and die lathe, or to program a robot for the auto assembly line. You learn skills like reading and arithmetic and history and how to deal with your peers. These are not job specific learning skills but rather they give you the tools to learn when you actually get a job. Look at your career, at your peers, at the multitude who often state that they learned "on the job". It would be a horrible mistake to re-tool the education system to train kids for "jobs" because we would be more likely to train folk for the jobs of today instead of the jobs that they will apply for. I can just see rufus now training all those ethanol makers confident that the future will be theirs.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-25310873090904824902011-10-17T19:41:06.160-04:002011-10-17T19:41:06.160-04:00.
Expect to see many people and groups claiming t....<br /><br />Expect to see many people and groups claiming to be the real source or inspiration for OWS.<br /><br />Most will likely be self-serving.<br /><br />Here is the latest take from <i>Mother Jones</i> on the NYCGA.<br /><br /><a href="http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-international-origins" rel="nofollow">OWS Origins</a><br /><br />Expect to see more statements like these,<br /><br /><i>Begonia adds: "The people are not here for the American economic crisis. They're here for the crisis of the world."</i><br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-85888537224708176232011-10-17T19:06:18.332-04:002011-10-17T19:06:18.332-04:00I'm probably expressing myself very poorly, T....I'm probably expressing myself very poorly, T. I'm trying to describe a program that would lay the groundwork for others to be able to learn to do what you do.<br /><br />Or, a groundwork that would allow a young person to more quickly pick up on the operation of a CNC machine. etc.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-4078948503724852412011-10-17T18:59:15.167-04:002011-10-17T18:59:15.167-04:00.
NO! Kindergarten to High School is NOT job trai....<br /><br /><i>NO! Kindergarten to High School is NOT job training.</i><br /><br />Get with the program Ash. You have to be able to read and write to get a job. You have to be able to garner math skills to get a job. You need to know something about the history of your country, the way it is governned to get a job .<br /><br />You should be taught the mechanics of logical thinking in order to get a job.<br /><br />What is it you wopuld suggest they be taught from K to high school? Soccer?<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-75509759431190261992011-10-17T18:57:03.449-04:002011-10-17T18:57:03.449-04:00Rufus II said... I think it's a tempest in a ...<b>Rufus II said...</b> <i>I think it's a tempest in a teapot. It just doesn't seem very interesting, to me. If I read a story about the school teaching "Computer" languages, I'd be more intrigued.</i><br /><br />Bad move, right now. Not so much back in the 70s when I was dabbling with computers, because the good stuff hadn't been written yet. Now even that job is automated.<br /><br />Push a button these days, and you can publish your spreadsheet on the company intranet.<br /><br />They might even figure out a way to get robots to fix everything. But there's one thing they will never do, and that's getting robots to fix themselves. That's when you call my planner in the Electronic Repair Depot and get a quote. <br /><br />Great little business model that will take me out another ten years to retirement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-39438759828000813402011-10-17T18:22:31.531-04:002011-10-17T18:22:31.531-04:00The product can be installed in 10 units per man h...<i>The product can be installed in <b>10 units per man hour</b> with simple module-to-module connection. Rapid installation is possible because the units require no assembly, grounding, or tools for installation.<br /><br />This greatly reduces the costs associated with standard racking methods which require staging, assembly and grounding. In addition, SOLquick is extremely lightweight at <b>less than three pounds per square foot</b> average distributed weight.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.solardaily.com/reports/Leaner_Faster_Rooftop_Solar_Installations_999.html" rel="nofollow">Now, This is what I'm talking about</a><br /><br /><br />In a couple of years you'll be reading about $1.00/Watt installed Solar.<br /><br />Cheaper than Coal; cheaper than nat gas; cheaper than anything.<br /><br />Don't get caught in 20th Century thinking.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-12586734997906604202011-10-17T18:09:30.839-04:002011-10-17T18:09:30.839-04:00I think it's a tempest in a teapot. It just d...I think it's a tempest in a teapot. It just doesn't seem very interesting, to me.<br /><br />If I read a story about the school teaching "Computer" languages, I'd be more intrigued.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-83480756619357383882011-10-17T18:06:22.687-04:002011-10-17T18:06:22.687-04:00Rufus II said... The big "coming out" in...<b>Rufus II said...</b> <i>The big "coming out" in the armed forces seems to have been quite a yawner. Typical reaction reported? A shrug.</i><br /><br />The boys in the 101st Airborne have been packing each other's chutes for decades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-49076130594626834652011-10-17T17:59:12.119-04:002011-10-17T17:59:12.119-04:00The big "coming out" in the armed forces...The big "coming out" in the armed forces seems to have been quite a yawner.<br /><br />Typical reaction reported? A shrug.Rufus IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297231055991566183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-48066335017936401792011-10-17T17:57:29.571-04:002011-10-17T17:57:29.571-04:00She said she was particularly offended because the...She said she was particularly offended because the presentations in teacher Reyna Santos’s class took place during “Freedom Week,” <br /><br />the week after the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, and on U.S. Constitution Day <br /><br />— the same day as Mexico’s Independence Day.<br /><br />“Why are we doing their independence when it‘s Freedom Week and it’s also Constitution Day?” Brinsdon said.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-16029734679719029092011-10-17T17:44:25.079-04:002011-10-17T17:44:25.079-04:00I am not Mexican, nor do I live in Mexico, therefo...I am not Mexican, nor do I live in Mexico, therefore, I will not be reciting a pledge of allegiance to that country, or any other country, except the USA,MOMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307879234693014691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-23840525850477939332011-10-17T17:39:37.530-04:002011-10-17T17:39:37.530-04:00Quirk wrote:
"Again, I disagree with you. Th...Quirk wrote:<br /><br />"Again, I disagree with you. The curriculem should be constricted in Michigan with emphasis on classes that offer a kid a chance to get a job."<br /><br /><br />NO! Kindergarten to High School is NOT job training.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688752302081088907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-29305731760655499432011-10-17T17:29:44.511-04:002011-10-17T17:29:44.511-04:00"My fighting gay marriage is akin to Lincoln ..."My fighting gay marriage is akin to Lincoln fighting Cadillac for market share"<br /><br /> - The BunionDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-55834103299441861632011-10-17T17:26:23.439-04:002011-10-17T17:26:23.439-04:00"“Our kids don’t even know the [American] nat..."“Our kids don’t even know the [American] national anthem and here we are…teaching them to memorize and perform the national anthem for Mexico,” he said. <br /><br />“I just think it’s so backwards.”"Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-40083193973490974262011-10-17T17:09:27.041-04:002011-10-17T17:09:27.041-04:00.
Perhaps it'd be better to expand the curric....<br /><br /><i>Perhaps it'd be better to expand the curriculum in Michigan, than to constrict it, in Texas.</i><br /><br />Again, I disagree with you. The curriculem should be constricted in Michigan with emphasis on classes that offer a kid a chance to get a job.<br /><br />Some of what you are proposing can be handled in American History classes. The rest of it can be handled in the Spanish Club where they can also sing cumbaya and "We are the World".<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-90468615475084412822011-10-17T17:04:58.737-04:002011-10-17T17:04:58.737-04:00"A Polish language class, could study the wri..."A Polish language class, could study the writing of Lech Walesa, or the current Polish Pledge.<br /><br />All would be appropriate for a foreign language class."<br /><br />---<br /><br />Indeed,<br /><br />And students taking Russian should learn how to pledge allegiance to Russia, likewise the Chi-Coms, and students learning Farsi, Luri, and it's dialects Mamasani, Kohkiluyeh, and Bakhtiari.<br /><br />PBU Akmadinnerjacket and the twelfth imam.<br /><br />Let's don't forget political ads and BALLOTS printed in every language spoken in the USA, and require workers who interface with customers to be fluent in those languages.<br /><br />Fair is Fair,<br />right?Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16770268554450465514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-81853667359492635302011-10-17T16:59:50.810-04:002011-10-17T16:59:50.810-04:00.
The Flea Party is also calling for a national r....<br /><br /><i>The Flea Party is also calling for a national registry to identify and locate the rich,..</i><br /><br /><br />The Flea Party?<br /><br />It would be nice to have a link T so we can judge who is saying this. OWS is a bit amorphous at this point. You will recall it was only a small group of black clothed and masked thugs who disrupted the protests in Rome.<br /><br />.Quirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00272168240606512672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21297199.post-25878667504743085962011-10-17T16:54:54.792-04:002011-10-17T16:54:54.792-04:00Santorum: "My fighting gay marriage is akin t...Santorum: "My fighting gay marriage is akin to Lincoln fighting slavery ..."<br /><br />What a maroon. <br />What an ignoranimous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com