COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Monday, January 18, 2010

Brown Set to Beat Coakley in Massachusetts. Make it Happen.




Brown Has 9.6% Lead in New Poll
InsideMedford

Brown supporters focused most on pocketbook issues, Coakley supporters on healthcare reform, undecided voters split

A poll conducted by the Merriman River Group (MRG) and InsideMedford.com indicates that Scott Brown leads Martha Coakley 50.8% – 41.2% in the contest to fill the seat of the late Senator Ted Kennedy. Liberty Party candidate Joe Kennedy pulls in just 1.8% support, while 6.2% of voters are still not sure. Brown and Coakley both have most of their supporters locked in. 98% of both candidate’s supporters say they are definitely or probably going to vote for their candidate. In contrast, 22% of Kennedy’s supporters are just leaning toward him, suggesting that Brown and Coakley may both want to take aim at swaying those voters.

Not surprisingly, nearly all of Coakley’s supporters approve of President Obama’s job performance, while three-quarters of Brown’s supporters disapprove. Coakley may see a glimmer of hope in the fact that more than two-thirds of undecided voters approve of the president’s job performance while only 6% disapprove, especially in light of the president’s swing through the state to campaign for her later today.

47% of Brown’s supporters say that taxes, jobs, and the economy represent the most important issue to them in this race, while half of Coakley’s supporters say that healthcare reform is most important to them. Undecided voters are nearly evenly split between the two issues—40% say they’re most concerned with taxes, jobs, and the economy with 37% saying that healthcare reform that most concerns them. “For Coakley to have a chance, she needs to convince voters that the Democratic party’s agenda for the economy is the right one, and she needs to do it fast,” said MRG’s executive director, Matt Fitch.

The recent dust-up between the candidates over abortion laws seems to have had minimal impact on the race. Only 8% of Brown’s supporters and 5% of Coakley’s supporters say it’s the most important issue to them.

The endorsement in Medford on January 7 of Martha Coakley by members of Senator Ted Kennedy’s family appears to have had little effect on most voters and to have backfired with others. 55% said that it was not important to them, but 27% said it made them less likely to vote for Coakley, while only 18% said it made them more likely to vote for her. As for undecided voters, more than two-thirds said the endorsement was not important. “The Kennedy family endorsement seems to have hurt more than it helped Coakley, despite the popularity of the Kennedys in the state and in Medford,” said Allison Goldsberry, Editor of InsideMedford.com.

What seems to tip the race in Brown’s favor most is his popularity among Moderates, Independents, and men, and Coakley’s lack of an advantage among women. Brown nearly doubles Coakley’s total among Moderates, 62% – 32%, and has an even bigger margin among Independents, 64% – 26%. There’s also a one-way gender effect that favors Brown, who holds a nearly two-to-one lead over Coakley among men while women are split evenly between the two candidates. Brown does best among white voters, while Coakley leads among non-whites, suggesting that minority turnout may play a crucial role on election day. Brown is also leading among all age groups.



237 comments:

  1. Plus the use of the code words for NAZI, "white supremacist
    Masterful work, really.

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  3. But why would we expect anything less, form the smartest propagandists in the whole wide whirled.

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  4. DR,

    Re: defaming the ADL and BB

    To repeat, you could not find a quote, could you?

    Despite my personal aversion to Mr. Foxman, I like to play fair. Try it sometime; it grows on you.

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  5. Rufus, I did not broach the question of Israel's health care delivery system. Frankly, it is irrelevant to the discussion; albeit, it does provide ample opportunity for barely disguised bashing.

    I don't think it's "irrelevant." My point is: If Israel, with a $28,000.00 GDP/capita can afford health care for all citizens, then why couldn't the US with a $46,000.00 GDP/capita be able to afford the same.

    As for "opportunity" for barely disguised bashing: That's just victimhood-pleading nonsense. I didn't bash Israel in any way. You're just starting to make shit up.

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  6. Do not need a quote to find the meaning of propaganda.

    It there, hiding in plain view.

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  7. And, "Thoughtlessly?"

    I'm the only one here who has consistently, from the start, put up Real, honest-to-goodness numbers. And, as we get further into it, it's turning out my numbers are looking correct.

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  8. I see them everyday, sometimes outside the VA medical center (smoking) carrying their little bags of medication, to be sold or bartered when they get back home, under the overpass.

    THAT, you worthless piece of shit is one despicable statement.

    Marine my rusty red ass.

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  9. Nearly a forty year vet, rufus, from a grunt in the jungles of the 'Nam to retirement, just a couple of years ago.

    Do the math.

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  10. Addressing further "the poor", you do know that millions of these are children, the progeny of totally dysfunctional couplings? Will you advocate the sterilization of "undesirable" adults? Certainly, that would reduce substantially "the poor" of the future, don't you agree?

    Promoting "Eugenics, Now?" Rat's got you nailed, perfectly. You're just a fucking Nazi in Jew's clothing.

    Just Abhorrent.

    I won't be fucking with you any more after this sentence. I feel dirty just knowing you over the internet.

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  11. rufus,

    I asked a question. You have given your answer. And, Sir, you should feel as dirty as your mouth.

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  12. If anybody is going to be sterilized or bumped off it would be the result of this monstrous health care bill working itself out over the years with a bureaucracy accountable to no one and a populace that doesn't give a shit.

    That's why I'm praying Brown really thumps 'em.

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  13. If Brown were to win, bob, it'd be the beginning of the end, or at least the end of the beginning, for Obamamerica.

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  14. It'll be down right amazing, if it were to happen, tomorrow.

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  15. There's a video out there on Utube somewhere with one of Zero's guys, can't recall which one, telling a group of students that rationing is just that, bump off the grandmas. I'm too lazy to look it up.

    It's disgusting to call Allen a Nazis, Rufus.

    I should have gone back done to the Grand Ronde.




    I don't know what more signs we could ask for....polls, enthusiasm, anger, but it sure would be surprising, I agree.

    Casino time. There's a thin moon out my window.

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  16. Bob, that's what I would expect from someone that "falls in love" online.

    Denigrating those Veterans outside the VA is Vile, and Disturbed. Many of those men have been in pain since they left Vietnam 45 years, ago. Others are suffering injuries from the Wars in the Mideast.

    It's just despicable.

    And then, the thinly-veiled appeal for "Eugenics." Naziesque enough for Me.

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  17. Oh, btw, you ignorant shit. You can't asphyxiate from burning methane. If you could every family in America with Natural Gas Stoves, and Furnaces would be dead.

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  18. Ms. Pelosi, however, said that it was Republicans who could not be trusted on the health care issue, and that Democrats would not squander the opportunity to pass a bill.

    “I heard the candidate in Massachusetts, the Republican candidate, say ‘Let’s go back to the drawing board,’ ” Ms. Pelosi said. “The drawing board for the Republican Party on health care is to tear it up and throw it away and shred it and never revisit it.”

    She added: “Back to the drawing board means a great big zero for the American people.”


    Bill Through House

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  19. Victor, you think This -

    I see them everyday, sometimes outside the VA medical center (smoking) carrying their little bags of medication, to be sold or bartered when they get back home, under the overpass. -

    is "Well Said?"

    Really?

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  20. "Re: misattribution

    :)>>>

    (That's a raspberry, I think.)"



    The Jewish forensic equivalent of "Oh, yeah!"

    Very clever, Allen. It's good to see you put that extraordinary Jewish intellect to such good use.

    Brilliant.

    You sure got me that time.


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  22. And then there is Mystery Hill in North Caralina that my daughter wanted to see last year that we never got to see. There a lot of neat things to see around there.

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  23. The Boston Globe refused to publish a poll that showed Scott Brown in the lead.

    "Irish Bookie Pays off Brown Bets Early"

    FOX25 Poll: Scott Brown surges to double-digit lead over Martha Coakley

    Chris Matthews Panics, Plays The Religion Card Reminding Voters Brown Protestant, Coakley Catholic

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  24. viktor silo,

    Thanks.

    Reasonable, honorable men may disagree. That was the original purpose of universities. Foul mouthed bullies were not admitted into polite company, then, and never will be. His ego will not be missed.

    That an apostle of DR would resort to name calling and slander comes as no surprise. I am surprised that he didn't pop his cork earlier in the day.

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  25. The ad comes one day before Tuesday's special election, and one day after the president appeared at a rally with the Democrat in Boston. Coakley is in a tight race with Republican Scott Brown, and the White House is pulling out all the stops to try to keep the seat in Democratic hands.

    He's also filmed a Web video and taped automated phone calls urging Democrats to turn out to vote for Coakley Tuesday.

    Officials disclosed the existence of the ad on the condition of anonymity because it was not yet on the air.


    Ad for Coakley

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  26. "Chris Matthews Panics, Plays The Religion Card Reminding Voters Brown Protestant, Coakley Catholic"

    Love it.

    Can you believe they have Matthews on MSDNC tonight hosting a special about Obama and the current state of race in America.

    Gee, one wonders what he will have to say?


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  27. Quirk,

    Not surprisingly, you flatter yourself; but you already knew that.

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  28. The spot is all positive, with no reference to Scott Brown. “Martha knows the struggles Massachusetts working families face, because she’s lived those struggles,” Obama says.

    “As Attorney General she took on Wall Street and recovered millions for Massachusetts taxpayers. She went after big insurance companies and took on predatory lenders.

    That’s what Martha Coakley’s about.”


    Every Vote Matters

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  29. There are disciples of free thinking, I just love that.

    Real veterans, too.

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  30. bob,

    Thanks, my friend.........

    Bob, please, no commemorative epic poetry :) Save your fiery-loined passion for MLD.

    Have a beer, instead. I'm having scotch...To Life!

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  31. ...and bob, let's drink one for the poor Egyptian, struck down maliciously by Mad Moshe...

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  32. bob,

    "Moses" or "Moshe" or "Mose" or "Mosis" is an honorific title first seen among the pharaohs of the 18th Dynasty (Or Die Nasty, as some would have it.) 1550-1292 BCE.

    In short, bob, Moses had a non-Hebrew, Egyptian name...Well, I'll be darned!...Who woulda thunk it?

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  33. Here's to you, Allen, Mad Moshe, Melody and me. Cheers!!

    There was a sliver moon out my window, before I went to the Casino, which seemed very lonely, to me. Upon my return here, it doesn't seem so much so.

    There's a line from Roethke "I'd be beyond, beyond the moon..." which is a reference to the old cosmology, in which the area beyond the moon was the beginning of transcendence.

    You got to know how to read this shit.

    Cheers!!!!

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  34. I see them everyday, sometimes outside the VA medical center (smoking) carrying their little bags of medication, to be sold or bartered when they get back home, under the overpass.

    I don't see a damn thing wrong with the statement and Allen isn't advocating eugenics.

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  35. bob,

    Re: Campbell et al

    You are an unending source of joy.

    Because one serves in the military does not make one an uncultured fool. Look at Trish (potty mouth notwithstanding :)

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  36. rufus said

    "Victor, you think This -

    'I see them everyday, sometimes outside the VA medical center (smoking) carrying their little bags of medication, to be sold or bartered when they get back home, under the overpass.'

    is "Well Said?"

    Really?"


    First, let me apologize for my late response, I've been busy. But, I assure you that you have been on my mind.

    I did not agree with the specific quote you mention from Allen's comment. I thought Allen's comment, taken in its entirety, was "well said." I do not know if what Allen said in this particular paragraph is literally true but I have seen this type of behavior among drug addicts and the homeless hundreds of times so I have no reason to doubt Allen's observations. Just because he mentioned veterans does not alter its truthfulness.

    You are very defensive about veterans and everyone knows why. I do not in any way fault you for your emotionel reaction to Allen's remark. But I believe you allowed your emotions to get the better of you in your castigation of Allen and you said some things that a gentleman shouldn't have.

    Allen's major point was that the category of people that we call the "poor" encompasses many people who do not necessarily deserve our sympathy or support. The stereotype of the poor is that they are hard working, decent people who, through no fault of their own, have fallen on hard times.

    If this definition was entirely true or even mostly true I would, at least, be emotionally drawn to your attraction to socialized health care. But, the truth is, that the "poor" also encompass most of the criminal class (which includes drug addicts) and the very mentally ill.

    Just as the decent hard working poor tend to produce children with similar values so, too, do the mentally ill and the criminal class produce more of the same. While this observation may seem commonplace, I bring it up because socialized medicine will not substantially address the suffering and discontent of the underclass.

    You will notice that I have not addressed your infatuation with socialized health care. What I'm about to say, Rufus, is not meant to insult you but I have not taken up this issue with you because, as thay say, "you can't reason anyone out of what they have not been reasoned into."

    I believe that you, and many, many others, equate your emotional reaction to any issue to be the equivalent of truth. Having established your emotion's bona fides you set about rationalizing your opinion. I want to emphasis that this is an intellectual fault, not a character fault.

    You have said some things, Rufus, to Allen, which are beyond the pale. I believe you owe Allen an apology. Whatever you think of Allen, he does not deserve your outburst.

    I believe that if you apologized, that Allen, being a decent fellow, would accept it. This may stick in your craw but it needs to be done.

    Lastly, if you want to convince commenters at The Bar of the ethical rightness of socialized health care you are going to have to make reasoned argument. Asking us to go along just because it makes you feel good will not do.

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